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#ConfederateFlag: The Weapons Ban

CITY OF COLUMBIA, S.C. CRACKS DOWN …  || By FITSNEWS || The City of Columbia, S.C. has imposed a ban on firearms and other “dangerous weapons” around the S.C. State House in anticipation of the Confederate flag being removed from the north lawn of the capital building this week. The ban…

CITY OF COLUMBIA, S.C. CRACKS DOWN … 

|| By FITSNEWS || The City of Columbia, S.C. has imposed a ban on firearms and other “dangerous weapons” around the S.C. State House in anticipation of the Confederate flag being removed from the north lawn of the capital building this week.

The ban takes effect immediately and runs for thirty days.

Wait … can they do that?

Columbia’s city council evidently thinks so … as its ordinance would ban citizens from carrying firearms or other weapons within 250 feet of the capital grounds for the next month.

According to the ordinance, the flag controversy “has added expediency to the need to take precautionary measures to protect life and property surrounding the Capitol Grounds.”

Really?

What about the Second Amendment?

Oh … and then there’s S.C. Code of Laws (§ 23-31-510), which explicitly bans “any county, municipality, or other political subdivision in the State” from imposing or attempting to impose regulations governing “the transfer, ownership, possession, carrying, or transportation of firearms, ammunition, components of firearms, or any combination of these things.”

Reads pretty straightforward to us.

Anyway, here’s a map of the “weapon-free” zone …

(Click to enlarge)

gun ban

Pic: via Facebook

What does the city define as a “dangerous weapon?”  The ordinance doesn’t specify … but it does specify punishments for those who violate this vague, constitutionally dubious mandate.  According to the city, violators will be charged with a misdemeanor and fined up to $500 or sent to jail for up to thirty days.

Wow …

(Editor’s note: sarcasm ahead) Obviously this ban will be tremendously successful because gang members and angry rednecks are thinking rationally right now and are naturally inclined to obey gun laws in the first place.

After hours of contentious debate, the S.C. House voted 94-20 to remove the Confederate flag from the State House’s north lawn “free and clear” – which is exactly what the S.C. Senate voted to do earlier in the week by a 37-3 margin.  S.C. governor Nikki Haley – a former flag supporter – signed the bill Thursday.

The House vote came three weeks after the horrific, racially motivated “Holy City Massacre” – the mass murder of nine black churchgoers at the Mother Emanuel AME Church in downtown Charleston, S.C.  The Mother Emanuel victims – among them S.C. Senator Clementa Pinckney, the church’s pastor – were gunned down during a Bible study by Dylann Storm Roof, a 21-year-old white supremacist who used the Confederate flag as his calling card.

We supported removing the flag (for more on “why” click here and here).  In fact lawmakers pretty much followed our advice in taking the banner down sooner rather than later.

Which is good … because South Carolina’s “leaders” need to get busy addressing the myriad of issues making ours one of the poorest, least intelligent, most underemployed, most dangerous states in America.

We do not, however, support this “emergency” weapons ban.

First, it’s illegal.  And second, it won’t work.

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119 comments

Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 8:31 pm

Assuming the ordinance doesn’t apply to law enforcement, it want be a gun free zone like Mother Emanuel AME.
What is the penalty for carrying? Just confiscation?

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Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 9:20 pm

Plus most are so fat you could easily outrun them past the 250 foot perimeter.

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CorruptionInColumbia July 10, 2015 at 12:03 am

Yes, a Gun Free Zone is a Gun Free Zone, whether the cops can carry there or not. Criminals almost always commit murders, rapes, armed robberies, and the like when no cops are around. That is why citizens need to be able to be armed if they so choose. No, thankfully the stupid GFZ restrictions against CWP holders do not apply to cops. A cop could have been legally armed in that church, but guess what? No cops were there. Had the victim minister been of the mindset of a pastor and his grandson in Spartanburg who were faced with a similar situation a few years ago, there likely would have been far fewer deaths and maybe none, as was the case in Spartanburg. Not blaming the victim, just pointing out a fact.

The good thing about this bullshit ordinance is that it is contrary to state law and therefore non-binding. If I absolutely had to walk through that area, I would be packing, same as always.

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erneba July 10, 2015 at 8:19 am

I agree, This is Contrary to state law. I doubt that the City of Columbia issuing this order is legal.

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erneba July 9, 2015 at 8:37 pm

The people that will ignore this ban are the law-breakers. For twenty fours hours this will be a free fire zone for the street thugs and criminals. I would not get close to that place tonight unless I was accompanied by a squad of infantry troops.

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CorruptionInColumbia July 9, 2015 at 11:38 pm

Actually, any CWP holder with half a brain who is forced by circumstance to be in that area will still be armed. This ordinance is contrary to state law and therefore, non-binding from a legal standpoint. I hope no one at CPD will be dumb enough to attempt to enforce this act of fucktardary by council on a CWP holder. If such happens, the citizen just might win an unscheduled cash award, courtesy of City Council.

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Mike at the Beach July 9, 2015 at 11:41 pm

Ask the City of Myrtle Beach how it worked out for them when they decided they could outmaneuver SC law with some fancily crafted city ordinances…not so well.

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Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 8:41 pm

” horrific, racially motivated ”

This shit is getting old… drink.

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 8:43 pm

yeah – I am sick of all flavors of alcohol. I used to like WIN BER AND LIKOR, BUT TIS IS RIDIKULUS.

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Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 9:19 pm

Don’t worry about me, I’m fine… but one more drink and I may need you to take me to the hospital.

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KKKrossfire July 9, 2015 at 9:33 pm

Thank god, they have some sense. All those gun toting, bumpkins might shoot each other.

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Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 8:42 pm

Haley should just call out the National Guard. But they won’t be issued ammunition so they’ll stand around with expensive clubs.

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guest July 9, 2015 at 8:47 pm

lol…Al and Jesse got her mind right. My guess is she is on the phone with the mayor of Baltimore for the ‘game plan’?

Stay out of CVS tonight!

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shifty henry July 9, 2015 at 9:15 pm

WoW — that comment is out — of — sight ..!!

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guest July 9, 2015 at 9:19 pm

Thank you sir. :)

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Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 8:45 pm

I’m not concerned, WIS will have around the clock coverage of this “historic event”. They milked the shooting for everything it had, this is just next on the list. After this runs it’s course it’ll just be Dawnde and Judy competing to be Columbia’s middle-aged darlings.

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Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 8:48 pm

Haley will be on the NBC TODAY SHOW being at 9:30 am for live coverage.

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guest July 9, 2015 at 8:51 pm

Great.Is she announcing her switch to the Democrat Party?

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Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 8:55 pm

Democratic – Republican: She’ll be a fusion candidate for President after the collapse of the dollar, the stock market and the flood of all our coastal areas due rising ocean levels.

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guest July 9, 2015 at 8:59 pm

ha ha-‘CON-fusion candidate…maybe

Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 9:17 pm

Where she’ll announce her candidacy for Vice President. She won’t know who her running mate is, but she’s available.

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guest July 9, 2015 at 9:18 pm

+10

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 9:48 pm

Squishy is funny, but I think he has been out played. Nice BT.

Duh huh July 10, 2015 at 9:34 am

Who cares what you think? You’re as vapid as SYNtwist.

Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 9:47 pm

Haley is so popular, that instead of the Presidential candidate picking the Vice presidential candidate , it will be the other way around. She’ll pick the Presidential candidate.

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guest July 9, 2015 at 9:51 pm

Louis Farakahn or Todd Rutherford?

Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 9:52 pm

Who ever it is, they’ll be a SUPER STAR!

Yeah Right July 9, 2015 at 10:48 pm

“She’ll pick the Presidential candidate”

Hope she has more success than she had picking her “rock star” cabinet agency heads. Remind me how many have resigned in shame 5? 6? 7? I’ve lost count.

The MSM here in SC is kind to her and don’t really press her on stuff they should, like the whole “What was your salary?” question (http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20110316/PC1602/303169903)

or the SRS applicants are drug users comment (http://chronicle.augusta.com/news/metro/2011-09-19/haley-cant-document-srs-drug-test-failure-claim)

The national media will tear her apart. She has way too many skeletons, any candidate would either have to be stupid or desperate to pick her in my opinion.

Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 8:47 pm

http://www.free-times.com/blogs/070915city-council-temporarily-bans-weapons-around-state-house-grounds

“During this period of extraordinary circumstances that have arisen, the City of Columbia believes it is in the best interest of public safety, free speech and freedom of peacable assembly to temporarily extend the existing ban of weapons as enacted by the General Assembly within 250 feet of the borders of the Capitol Complex,” the ordinance reads. The ordinance is set to be in effect for 30 days. Anyone caught violating the we faces a $500 fine and 30 days in jail.

The temporary weapons-free area expansion applies to public property and grounds.

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guest July 9, 2015 at 8:50 pm

Haley took the Confederate Flag down in two days? She can’t stop the city of Columbia from disarming LEGAL gun owners?

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Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 8:51 pm

Not her job. Talk to Attorney General Wilson.

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guest July 9, 2015 at 8:53 pm

Oh.Or is it she is on NBC in the morning and doesn’t give a shit about the Constitution?

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The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:02 pm

Nobody else seems to, why should she?

Col.Flagg July 9, 2015 at 9:05 pm

That what you teach in class-‘nobody else seems (to care),why should we?’ ????

The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:22 pm

When illustrating the concepts of personal responsibility to do the right thing I use two different role models, Lloyd Frendedall as the failure and Hal Moore as the role model. Both ultimately became lieutenant generals, one for doing it right and the other four screwing up by the numbers.

Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 9:06 pm

It will take 18 days by the time the flag is down. That was according to the Constitution that you are so concerned about.

guest July 9, 2015 at 9:07 pm

American Flag?

Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 9:16 pm

What about a gun in a vehicle driving down Gervais Street (Highway 1)?

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The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:18 pm

Yeah, lots of flaws in this plan and the judge will throw any cases they try to bring out but it will give them the ability to haul you off to jail until after the fun and games are over.

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Col.Flagg July 9, 2015 at 9:21 pm

Have you ever thought that they have seen you down there taking pics and are concerned? Just askin. :)

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The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:23 pm

I have a friend or two down at the State House who will vouch for me.

guest July 9, 2015 at 9:27 pm

10-4. Can I write your lesson plans for a year while you pursue your social justice agenda? :)

The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:32 pm

You can use the lesson plan I wrote 14 years ago that I still teach from today.

CorruptionInColumbia July 10, 2015 at 12:19 am

I hope none of the cops are dumb enough to attempt to enforce this on anyone who is otherwise legally carrying. If they do, the arrestee just might own their house or their department’s budget for the year.

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TheyCan'tDoThat July 9, 2015 at 8:51 pm

“No governing body of any county, municipality, or other political subdivision in the State may enact or promulgate any regulation or ordinance that regulates or attempts to regulate:(1) the . . . possession, carrying, or transportation of firearms, ammunition, components of firearms, or any combination of these things.” S.C. Code Ann. § 23-31-510

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guest July 9, 2015 at 8:55 pm

Haley don’t care. She may get a hug from Sharpton in the morning on NBC. Screw the people that elected her.

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Clueless retard flip July 9, 2015 at 10:45 pm

You supported her election and rejoiced when Sheheen and Ervin lost! Are you telling yourself to go fuck yourself? LMAO!!!!!!!!!! Oh my!!!

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guest July 9, 2015 at 8:56 pm

Haley must be declaring Martial Law to get the flag down?

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Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 8:58 pm

No, city council. I’ll be there to turn in all my guns.

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CorruptionInColumbia July 10, 2015 at 12:15 am

THANK YOU!!!!!!
I currently lack the ability to copy and paste links or other info. Thanks for taking care of that on here!

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Bible Thumper July 9, 2015 at 9:00 pm

Only at fits would the actions of a Democratic
City council provide an opportunity to criticize the Governor.

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willblogformoney July 9, 2015 at 9:50 pm

It really is past , “getting old”.

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The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:00 pm

“The House vote came three weeks after the horrific, racially motivated “Holy City Massacre”
Sass nummer fowah fowah tuesthurday…

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 9:00 pm

LOLOLOL

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Col.Flagg July 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm

You going down to turn violators in?Send some pics.

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 9:03 pm

What? Are you nuts? He can’t drive. Just read what he typed, he’s been on FITS too long. ha!

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The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:04 pm

I’ll have to leave mine behind to do that and you never need a gun until you really need one so I try to never do that.

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The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:05 pm

Did you see my picture of your cousins rv?

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 9:21 pm

Let’s blame it on something, gotta blame it on something…:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFWngq2L99o

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Stupidity on display July 9, 2015 at 9:24 pm

Some people have to work to be stupid. I see for you it’s a natural talent.

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 9:25 pm

It does come natural – no doubt. You see stupid knows no bounds, so we aren’t confined by any stereotype and we embrace the title. We laugh all the way to the bank.

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shifty henry July 9, 2015 at 9:21 pm

My estimate of the number of commentators (20?) on Fitsnews who have the sharpest wits, and in my mind that constitutes a lethal weapon, — the victims of our bloodless attacks carry with them the emotional scars that may never heal. Yes, lets all join on the state house steps for our group photo before being marched in leg chains to the hoosegow. (somebody think of a marching song for us so we look good in the videos).

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 9:23 pm

I thought Blame It On The Rain was pretty good….Hmmm….lemme think of something more “lethal” :)

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 9:24 pm

Is this something like you had in mind of “lethal”:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw3H7dS64-A

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shifty henry July 9, 2015 at 10:38 pm

I’ll have to watch that again in the light of day…..

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erneba July 9, 2015 at 9:45 pm

I think we should play “Dixie” on those ‘zooot’ whistles.

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Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 10:27 pm

It’d be fine until 9″ started trying to play “It’s Raining Men”.

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shifty henry July 9, 2015 at 10:30 pm

Well-known localschool fight song:
——————————————–
Break an arm! Break a leg! Benedict! Benedict!

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erneba July 9, 2015 at 10:33 pm

Have not heard that one since I was a child…a long time ago.

shifty henry July 9, 2015 at 10:41 pm

Yeah, it’s old but those things get passed around. I graduated from Dreher and I don’t remember any of the insulting versions of our songs.

rubel July 9, 2015 at 10:43 pm

Me either, but I don’t remember a lot about childhood songs.

9" July 10, 2015 at 2:42 am

I am not into that faggy disco shit,bitch.Let’s play this::::

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9nRvLNM8_o

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 10:01 pm

Got it, might require a little dance with it and not so lethal but fitting. The wait is over:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAyhnyrbCKw

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 10:20 pm

Found it – perfect “lethal” cadence:

Above the land,
Across the sea,
We’re everywhere,
We need to be.
We’re brothers of,
A special kind,
A better band,
You’ll never find.
Band of brothers,
That’s what we are,
Fighting evil,
Near and far.
Band of brothers,
That’s what I said,
Baptized by fire,
Scarred by lead.
We’re lean and mean,
And fit to fight,
Anywhere,
Day or night.
When bullets fly,
And rockets fall,
We’ll stand our ground,
And give our all.
We’re on the move,
We’re on the march,
We’re diggin’ ditches,
And breakin’ starch.
When you hear,
Our battle cry,
You better move,
And step aside.
Band of brothers,
That’s what we said,
Mess with us,
We’ll shoot you dead.
Band of brothers,
Trained to kill,
If we don’t getcha,
Our sisters will.

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shifty henry July 9, 2015 at 10:27 pm

Very good, and it would probably take three times to get to the hoosegow , unless they put us on a bus and then we’d have to sing it really fast! But, rubel, let’s back up a bit and take a peek at
‘When bullets fly, And rockets fall,’ and ‘ We’re diggin’ ditches,
And breakin’ starch.’ Think you could, uh, revise that part somewhat?

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 10:29 pm

I’ll have to work on that ;)

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 10:29 pm

FYI – the name is (T)rubel with a capital T.

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shifty henry July 9, 2015 at 10:31 pm

got it!

rubel July 9, 2015 at 10:50 pm

I guess all we have left is “Closing Time” – Nite Henry! Keep your sense of humor. Wishing you dreams full of laughter and jokes, that you might share with us of course!

shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 1:10 am

I’m just taking a break at the moment from a pressure assignment that must be delivered Friday. (oops, now it’s Today!)

shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 8:31 am

HaH – I just examined your avatar — pretty good!

Squishy123 July 10, 2015 at 8:34 am

I thought it was your last name, and first name was Barney.

shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 8:44 am

One of my friends at Platinum Plus used the stage name “Trouble” —- only she spelled it (Twentie$) …..

rubel July 10, 2015 at 11:52 am

LOL

rubel July 10, 2015 at 11:53 am

I got the name from a TV Show called Grimm.

rubel July 10, 2015 at 12:25 am

LOLOL – You are too funny! I went back to revise that and realized you want to take out all the dangerous/working parts — but we should be accredited for all the good parts.

I guess it’s up to the “sisters” :)

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Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 10:26 pm

What makes you think I want to be seen with the likes of you?

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shifty henry July 9, 2015 at 10:34 pm

Uh, maybe to be talked about for the next six months everywhere you go in the Midlands? You might even get free drinks from those college girls….

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rubel July 10, 2015 at 12:15 am

Or …. your might be served a restraining order. LOL

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Squishy123 July 10, 2015 at 8:12 am

Just one?

Squishy123 July 10, 2015 at 8:12 am

I don’t go anywhere. My mom brings me all the Kool-Aid I can drink.

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shifty henry July 9, 2015 at 10:46 pm

Uh-Oh….. was just served a restraining order limiting my presence at one mile from the ceremonies. It was signed, “Henry, I remember you NOW! Nikki”

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rubel July 10, 2015 at 12:10 am

Hmmm…that sounds suspiciously like a …uh….restraining order. What did you do?

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shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 1:05 am

(1) Henry + Nikki + Clemson + Victoria’s Secret = ( a little event)
(2) Henry + Nikki + Clemson +(???) = ( a little adventure)

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Mike at the Beach July 9, 2015 at 11:43 pm

What will be your selection process? I will start studying for your entrance exam now…

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shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 1:08 am

The selection process is whoever of us is corralled by the police/troopers/guard units/Delta Force/moles & informers/ etc. But they will know us by our witty remarks to the media (maybe, maybe not).

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Mike at the Beach July 10, 2015 at 1:54 am

As long as you can screen out GT…

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shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 9:08 am

OK, the final word is in — NO tricycles allowed.

ItsHappening July 9, 2015 at 9:36 pm

I went down there today to get a few pictures of the Statehouse and the flag. While there, I had my life threatened TWICE by black youths, and two walking up the sidewalk talking about “f’n’ up the white boys”. Standing by the media, I listened to several reporters talking about how to sensationalize the material. Truth? What’s that? The obscene amount of racism being displayed at the Statehouse by flag opponents is simply unacceptable… yet nothing is being done. Tell me, Will, why this is acceptable to you? Media whore much?

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 9:38 pm

Only two? Based on my interactions with you, I’m surprised that only two stood up to you.

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Squishy123 July 9, 2015 at 10:26 pm

They tend not to get brave until there’s 5 or 6 of them.

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rubel July 10, 2015 at 12:07 am

I wanted to say this the other day, but refrained. What is the definition of a gang? It is nothing more than a “group” but gang has a much harsher tone.

What if I said that gang at church, or that gang at the mall, or that gang eating beside me at the restaurant. Different meaning.

This isn’t personal to you Squishy, but some want to talk about Freedom to Assemble and the term “Gang” is cause for investigation without provocation.

Gang is a term used to incite emotion. We have gangs of 5 or 6+ family members on the holidays.

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The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:38 pm

Maybe you should take off the white robe and hood until next Saturday. I’m over there weekly normally and have been there every day this week and have never had any issues.

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Col. Flagg July 9, 2015 at 9:44 pm

Don’t know if this account is factual however you been reading about that beat down by blacks on a white man in Cincinnati?

That what you do in class when a student disagrees with you-call em a KKK member?

Holy shit.

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The Colonel July 9, 2015 at 9:59 pm

All the time, if they’re black I call them Black Panther Party members or thugs… This poster is obviously full of bovine excreta.

Of course I read about the beat down in Cincinnati – I was pleased to see they have reclassified it as a “hate crime” even though I don’t believe in “hate crime”. http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015/07/breaking-hate-crime-charges-now-being-sought-for-cincinnati-black-mob-attack-on-white-male/

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Soft Sigh from Hell July 9, 2015 at 11:06 pm

“how to sensationalize the material”

We could help.

“Only hundreds of riot-equipped cops and scores of snarling fang-glistening attack dogs from the state prison system can keep the two massive roiling hate-filled screaming crowds separated and away from each other. PBR 12-oz empties fly in a barrage from one side and are met with malt-liquor quart bottles from the other, sometimes impacting and falling in shards onto the packed cops and dogs in between. Occasional shots ring out from the darkened woody corners of the statehouse grounds, quickly followed by camouflaged tactical teams rushing off into those directions. Helicopters with seachlights buzz constantly overhead. The smell of sweat and marijuana permeate the air. A woman’s voice screams, “Help!”
MORE MORE MORE

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Rhodey July 10, 2015 at 9:57 am

I don’t believe you. I’ve been going down to the grounds almost daily. I think it is YOU that is sensationalizing material. In other words… I believe you to be a liar.

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Soft Sigh from Hell July 9, 2015 at 10:38 pm

Apropos of nothing but I saw at least 16 news satellite trucks there an hour ago, but three were from local stations using just their small dish antennas aimed back at their stations.

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Mental Hopscotch July 9, 2015 at 11:40 pm

Has any law actually ever stopped anyone from doing what they want?

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rubel July 9, 2015 at 11:56 pm

Absolutely! Some of us do abide by law. That is why some of us disagree with legislating morality.

Criminals break laws, law abiding citizens try to do what is right within the confines of law — yes, law does matter. As much as I disagree with some of the laws, I do make an effort to follow them.

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CorruptionInColumbia July 10, 2015 at 2:36 am

Some people (many habitual criminals) are alive only because it is against the law to kill them.

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rubel July 10, 2015 at 12:34 am

“What some people may think is the right thing may be the wrong thing for another person. It’s a matter of perception. Sometimes letting go and trying something new, different and unaccepted by the majority or the mainstream is the key to happiness in life. ”
Read More: OneRepublic, ‘Counting Stars’ – Song Meaning | http://popcrush.com/onerepublic-counting-stars-song-meaning/?trackback=tsmclip

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RogueElephant July 10, 2015 at 8:21 am

WOW. Stop and frisk on Assembly and Gervaise St. This I gotta see. Unconstitutional .

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Nölff July 10, 2015 at 8:33 am

A lot of lawmakers on both sides of the flag position have had death threats. It’s probably fear that motivated the ban.

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staffer July 10, 2015 at 10:49 am

Let’s hope Dave Starr doesn’t show up.

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Ass Blow July 10, 2015 at 1:36 pm

The next time some white nut commits a crime I hope he is holding every negro symbol there is.

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JayJay July 10, 2015 at 5:04 pm

I think I will carry more than a combat load of ammo for my AK next Saturday. Seven 30-round mag’s may not be enough if the police engage.

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