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Nikki Haley’s Rapid Conversion On The Confederate Flag

SOUTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR’S EVOLVING VIEWS ON CONTROVERSIAL BANNER … || By FITSNEWS || We all know S.C. governor Nikki Haley rebuffed efforts to remove the Confederate flag from the S.C. State House grounds during her 2014 reelection campaign.  And that prior to that, she went on record supporting the flag’s presence on the north lawn of…

SOUTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR’S EVOLVING VIEWS ON CONTROVERSIAL BANNER …

|| By FITSNEWS || We all know S.C. governor Nikki Haley rebuffed efforts to remove the Confederate flag from the S.C. State House grounds during her 2014 reelection campaign.  And that prior to that, she went on record supporting the flag’s presence on the north lawn of the building.

Haley is now calling for the flag to come down in the aftermath of last week’s “Holy City Massacre” – the murder of nine black churchgoers by a racist white gunman.

Some believe her conversion is self-serving.  In fact in outlining their own plan for removing the controversial banner, several members of the S.C. House of Representatives had some choice words for the governor.

“Governor Haley could have done this at any time during the past six years, but no she waited to jump on the media bandwagon after a tragedy – and just as the presidential campaigns come into focus,” one lawmaker told us.

Another lawmaker was even more scathing in rebuking the governor …

“Name something Nikki Haley has tried to lead on other than the evening news,” the lawmaker told us.

Unlike these lawmakers, we don’t begrudge Haley for changing her mind on the flag.  While we never supported it like she did – we didn’t come out and call for its removal, either.  At least not until after the bloodbath in Charleston.

But while we were calling for the flag to come down last week, Haley was still dodging the question …

“At a time like this, you have to look back at what we’ve done,” Haley told CBS last Friday.  “Fifteen years ago the General Assembly at the time they had a conversation.  The Republicans and Democrats and everybody came together on a consensus to bring the Confederate flag down off of the dome.  And they put it on a monument out in front.  I think that conversation will probably come back up again.  And you what we hope that we do things the way South Carolinians do.  Which is have the conversation, allow some thoughtful words to be exchanged, be kind about it.  Come together on what we’re trying to achieve and how we’re trying to do it.  I think the state will start talking about that again.  We’ll see where it goes.  What I will tell you right now, is while a lot of issues will come up, my job as governor is to bring everybody back together again.”

Asked specifically about her view on the banner, Haley had this to say …

“I understand that’s what ya’ll want, (but) my job is to heal the people of this state,” she said.  “This is very real to us. There will be policy discussions and you will hear me come out and talk about it. But right now, I’m not doing that to the people of my state.”

Again … we’re not inside Haley’s heart.  We can’t tell whether she was legitimately waiting for the appropriate time to address the issue … or whether she was waiting to see how the issue was going to unfold.

Bottom line: The banner needs to be removed.  And whoever is on board with getting that done as quickly as possible, well, we’re not going to quibble over their motivations.  Honestly, we think Haley has – on the whole – done a pretty good job representing South Carolina in the aftermath of this tragedy.

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87 comments

TSIB June 22, 2015 at 2:22 pm

She’s showed real followership on this issue.

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TSIB June 22, 2015 at 2:22 pm

She’s showed real followership on this issue.

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shifty henry June 22, 2015 at 2:30 pm

worse — she’s showing herself to be a suck up and easy to influence, but help her to get the hell out of sc….

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Scooter June 22, 2015 at 3:11 pm

Absolutely. I will never support her again.

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CharlieChan June 22, 2015 at 3:15 pm

Um… when will she ever need your support again? She’s winning them over in Iowa and New Hampshire, though isn’t she?

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James Adams June 23, 2015 at 5:20 pm

That’s called being a soulless puppet.You admire selling out to the highest bidder and forgetting your promises just after re-election.She needs to go back to the Punjab and take you with her.

Cush June 22, 2015 at 2:26 pm

Busy day huh fits?

It’s a shame our state is getting such bad press lately. But let’s be honest. Things need to change.

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LadyBandwagon June 22, 2015 at 2:39 pm

I suspect Fits feeds on this. These clowns appear to be taking their leads from his comment trails. Viva The Free Press! Thanks to the New Media!

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Wait, What? June 22, 2015 at 2:43 pm

Indeed. Jefferson would be effing proud.

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Rocky June 22, 2015 at 2:39 pm

From my view, I think FITS has lead the bandwagon on this. I think in part he helped get the national media attention to it. He raised the debate, and the people reacted to it. The politicians were the ones slow to react.

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Cush June 22, 2015 at 2:26 pm

Busy day huh fits?

It’s a shame our state is getting such bad press lately. But let’s be honest. Things need to change.

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Maggie Mae June 22, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Haley’s State????

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Nölff June 22, 2015 at 2:29 pm

If she ends up as anybody’s running mate, she’s diffidently doing it for herself…

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shifty henry June 22, 2015 at 2:31 pm

but she couldn’t be trusted….

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beguiled June 22, 2015 at 2:37 pm

Absolutely, I can attest to her lying dishonesty! Every move she makes, every breath she takes is focused like a laser on what is best for her.
No core values, no honesty, no ethics, no morals.
When I campaigned for her and worked for her, I caught her in lie, after lie and saw her use people, then stab them in the back.

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shifty henry June 22, 2015 at 2:55 pm

‘focused like a laser on what is best for her’ —– I like that phrase!

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sparklecity June 23, 2015 at 4:16 pm

if I didn’t know better I would think Queen Namrata and Trey Gowdy were twins!!!!!

shifty henry June 23, 2015 at 5:04 pm

Several days ago I posted a link to an unusual news photo of Haley, but I don’t remember where. It’s worth looking at, you may be surprised to see how close you are to being right!

Soft Sigh from Hell June 22, 2015 at 7:22 pm

“No core values, no honesty, no ethics, no morals.”

But we expect that in a GOPer politician.

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Denozitall June 22, 2015 at 9:55 pm

Good old female Republican way…her and every state govt female director out there.

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CorruptionInColumbia June 22, 2015 at 2:33 pm

I will seriously LMAO if Haley and most everyone involved in this wind up losing their political careers over it.

Normally, it wouldn’t be a big deal for me, but NAACP (National Association of ALWAYS Complaining People) agreed to the current arrangement on State House grounds, then quickly backed out and instituted a laughable boycott against SC for adhering to the agreement. Piss on them!

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Rocky June 22, 2015 at 2:37 pm

Everything changed last week. That you can’t understand that means you should change your handle to Tone Deaf and Stupid in Columbia.

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nitrat June 22, 2015 at 2:44 pm

Yes, the flag was outed for what it really has always been last week.
If you want to blame anything, blame the internet for being the tool of exposure…as if the comments on blogs like this aren’t enough.

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CorruptionInColumbia June 22, 2015 at 2:48 pm

What changed? A worthless POS murdered several good people. Iy happens all the time around the world. He happened to subscribe to a certain belief sytem and used or possessed certain products, to include a Confederate flag. Do we ban Hyundai Elantra’s because he drove one to and from the crime? Was there a roll of toilet paper or a soft drink in his car, the brand of which needs to banned because he made use of them before or after the crime?
What kind of shoes did he wear?
What kind of shirt, pants, and underwear? I must know to be sure I have none of them.

Seruously, the only action in need of being taken is that this insect be squashed and no longer in this plane of existence.

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CharlieChan June 22, 2015 at 3:53 pm

You say he’s an insect today, but I bet y’all would’ve gotten along great a couple of weeks ago.

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James Adams June 23, 2015 at 5:26 pm

Whatever sambo.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 11:00 pm

Corruption is an avowed racist. Always has been as long as I’ve been on these message boards.

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James Adams June 23, 2015 at 5:27 pm

You are an avowed anti-White racist but that’s acceptable right?

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 23, 2015 at 7:01 pm

Says the guy with a racist symbol for his avatar.

I wipe my ass with the confederate flag and Gen. Lee sucks big fat black cocks in hell.

James Adams June 23, 2015 at 5:25 pm

Nothing changed.The great preponderance of hate crimes are still Black on White(50 to 1 according to F.B.I. stats).The media just ignores the many assaults on Whites and uses the rare assault by a White on Blacks to further beat us down.

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CharlieChan June 22, 2015 at 2:55 pm

Nikki’s career goes through DC, not Pickens. She’ll get a huge win from this. A female, minority, southern, republican Governor who made a historic decision in favor of civil rights. She can write her own ticket. Now… that doesn’t change the fact that those of us that know her, know she’s a two faced lying opportunist, but the fact remains taking the flag down is a political home run for her. She would be stupid not to.

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vicupstate June 22, 2015 at 4:48 pm

She gets a temporary win but to get real mileage out of this, she would have had to been against the flag before today. Besides, she has too many skeletons in her closet to be a VP. Cabinet post is the best option left for her, and that is only if a Republican is elected POTUS.

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Denozitall June 22, 2015 at 6:33 pm

Hallelujia! Hope she will leave SC then!!! Joy Joy!!

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LadyBandwagon June 22, 2015 at 2:33 pm

If the people will lead, the leaders will follow, especially this one. (Wet finger in air.)

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Nikki Haley June 22, 2015 at 2:36 pm

I’m just a poor girl, I need no sympathy,

Because I’m easy come, easy go,

Little high, little low,

Anyway the wind blows doesn’t really matter to me, to me.

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Will Moredock June 22, 2015 at 2:34 pm

To help understand events of the past week — and the past three centuries! — go to http://www.livinginfearbook.com and read the two essays: “300 Years of Living in Fear” and “The Power of Fear in South Carolina.” What fear of black people explains everything.

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Dylann Roof's License Plate June 22, 2015 at 2:34 pm

He had it on the front of his car and we had it on the state house grounds. Now he has no car and the flag is coming down.

He did this to start a new civil war and drive blacks and whites apart. Aside from the usual suspects here and on other conservative forums the people have come together and rejected his hatred.

We have robbed him of his devious goals and put out the fire of his hate.

AMEN!!!

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Haley Exposed June 22, 2015 at 2:41 pm

The woman has no real fiber to her. She talks out both sides of her mouth! And to you people over at the SC statehouse peeking in, we say “fuck you.”

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Haley Exposed June 22, 2015 at 2:44 pm

They take that flag down, all the rednecks and confederate supports will rip her head off while parading all over Columbia will large confederate flags flying from their trucks.

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Bread (beer)andCircusesNASCAR June 22, 2015 at 2:46 pm

Nah. Too hot.

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nitrat June 22, 2015 at 2:46 pm

We can hope…

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CharlieChan June 22, 2015 at 2:51 pm

I understand you like to fantasize about men in pickup trucks, but I don’t think the redneck support is the same as it was 15 years ago. A lot of the old Jim Crow bigots have retired or died.

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Wyboo Shaman June 22, 2015 at 2:44 pm

It was the sermon she attended at Emanuel AME that changed her heart. Full sermon on YouTube, Nik on the front row.

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Haley is Mental June 22, 2015 at 2:45 pm

She thinks she is black woman now?

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Wyboo Shaman June 22, 2015 at 2:47 pm

Odd logic

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Stupidsville June 22, 2015 at 2:50 pm

Black is the new Orange.

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Wyboo Shaman June 22, 2015 at 4:20 pm

I give Fits permission to use my post as a base for his next article. Damn I’m good.

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Haley Exposed June 22, 2015 at 2:46 pm

Haley will learn to speak Gullah.

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shifty henry June 22, 2015 at 2:53 pm

If “THE FLAG” is to come down, I want to see Nikki, wearing a bikini, climb the pole and remove it herself.

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shifty henry June 22, 2015 at 2:47 pm

Why are they hiding all the white people at this rally? My PC doesn’t have a wide screen….

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Haley Exposed June 22, 2015 at 2:48 pm

Leftists pounced on the Charleston shooting before the bodies were even cold to push their twin agenda of gun control and racial division.

Liberals are hastily exploiting this tragic incident to fabricate the myth that there are armies of white people waiting to commit violent hate crimes against blacks.

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CharlieChan June 22, 2015 at 3:12 pm

It’s a myth? I mean, isn’t that what those pamphlets at Maurice’s are all about? Frankly, racism isn’t a political issue, it’s a human decency issue, and damn right people are going to talk about human decency after something like this happens.

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James Adams June 23, 2015 at 5:18 pm

blah,blah,blah

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shifty henry June 22, 2015 at 2:50 pm

It wouldn’t surprise me that some final decision (at least for this year) will be announced no later than July 3 in time for Independence Day. Whatever is done they will be telling the citizens either “like it – or lump it”. Then they will be slapping each other on the back (or ass, for some) and then heading out for beer and bbq.

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Black Racist June 22, 2015 at 2:51 pm

Salon.com said white America must “answer” for the tragedy, a somewhat different tone to how they responded the Boston bombing, for which Muslims ‘didn’t need to apologize’.

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CharlieChan June 22, 2015 at 3:00 pm

I think Muslims have spent almost all of their time answering for their beliefs since 2001. If anything, your argument is saying that we shouldn’t judge all Muslims for what a few radicalized ones do. That’s a good argument, and Salon is wrong about “white America” needing to answer for it… Really, it’s more like “White Lexington” or whatever social groups this kid was a part of that fed these ideas.

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FastEddy23 June 22, 2015 at 5:02 pm

I think Muslims have spent much of their time answering for their beliefs since the 8th century when they split into multiple factions and started warring amongst themselves.

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James Adams June 23, 2015 at 5:23 pm

Do you ever think before you comment.Or can you?

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Fred on I-95 June 22, 2015 at 2:54 pm

Interesting – when a white kid kills it’s because he “couldn’t take the anti white hate 24/7 anymore”. So there’s no anti-Asian, anti-Mexican, anti-anything else hate??

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CharlieChan June 22, 2015 at 2:57 pm

That’s interesting, how? It’s interesting because it’s nonsensical gibberish like Dr. Suess? Your point is lost in your lack of communication skills.

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FastEddy23 June 22, 2015 at 4:59 pm

And texting while driving?

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How 2 Skin a Rat June 22, 2015 at 3:02 pm

We’ll put the Confederate Flag back up many other non government buildings around the Statehouse as a gesture of protest.

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Old Fucking Relic June 22, 2015 at 3:42 pm

Go ahead, redneck. I’m sure the businesses housed by these buildings would be all in.

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James Adams June 23, 2015 at 5:22 pm

Your racist language has been reported.Is it okay to be racist as long as it is directed towards Whites?

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How 2 Skin a Rat June 22, 2015 at 3:06 pm

No Rolling Mainstream Media Coverage Of Two OTHER Mass Shootings
19 injured, including children, 1 dead

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The Beaz June 22, 2015 at 3:07 pm

She is definitely David Beasley 2.0 on this issue. However, I’d rather her get the decision late, than never at all.

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Ray June 22, 2015 at 3:20 pm

Nikki Haley just shot her campaign for higher office in the ass!

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CharlieChan June 22, 2015 at 3:36 pm

The opposite of what you said.

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 22, 2015 at 7:12 pm

Yep, this greatly raised her profile and chances for appointive office.

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CorruptionInColumbia June 22, 2015 at 4:13 pm

I really hope so!

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bill June 22, 2015 at 3:22 pm

My Confederate Battle Flag never shot anyone!

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Concerned for SC June 22, 2015 at 3:41 pm

Does this mean that if the flag comes down that we will no longer need a Black caucus, a Black Miss America pageant. All people will get along and there will no longer be a need for special scholarships for minorities only. Why can not all be treated equally? So we are to assume that taking the flag down will solve all problems. Wow won’t this be great! Next thing we they will request FOX news to be removed from TV.

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CharlieChan June 22, 2015 at 3:51 pm

Well, if everyone suddenly got a long without fear and hate, there would be nothing for FOX News to cover.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 22, 2015 at 10:51 pm

As long as folks like you are around…we’ll need all of those things.

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James Adams June 23, 2015 at 5:21 pm

What a completely asinine comment.

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9" June 22, 2015 at 4:18 pm

Fits is self-serving,along with all the other vultures who are exploiting last weeks tragedy for their own agenda.Plenty of ‘Liberals’ included.The hypocrisy is appalling.

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The Colonel June 22, 2015 at 4:19 pm

Okay boys, the governor just finish speaking, say what you want she took a courageous stance now it’s up to the legislature…

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vicupstate June 22, 2015 at 4:42 pm

No, she just followed the political winds.

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The Colonel June 22, 2015 at 4:56 pm

I would agree if she had not threatened to drag their asses back into session if they don’t act.

Had she just said “I expect them to act in this session” I might agree with you because she could have said “…well I tried…”

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sparklecity June 23, 2015 at 4:19 pm

I don’t trust Queen Namrata on one single thing………….
She and Trey Gowdy are good just for one thing = and that’s what’s good for themselves………………

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The Colonel June 23, 2015 at 4:21 pm

Okay, in this case well agree that what’s good for her just happens to coincide with what’s good for the state.

Soft Sigh from HellPolicy. I June 22, 2015 at 7:09 pm

I think she deserves some real credit. Political winds for sure, but she took the bull by the horns, had the right tone and messages, and did not just spout empty platitudes from her office.

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Andy1 June 22, 2015 at 4:32 pm

If the people who claim “history” as the reason for keeping the flag could actually read, I might give their position some credence.

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FastEddy23 June 22, 2015 at 4:51 pm

IMOP a governor is Suppose to respond to the will of The People of her/his state regarding supposed offensive symbols. No matter, who is complaining.

Likewise a governor and legislature is supposed to respond to the will of The People in his/her state regarding supposed offensive taxes on fuel (and food and anything else). No matter who is complaining.

Likewise a president and congress is supposed to respond to the will of The People in his/her country regarding excessive government involvement in things medical (and housing and education and anything else). No matter who is complaining. … Oh wait.

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Nan June 23, 2015 at 7:20 am

Hail the politicians. After polling, conniving and scheming, they have finally decided to end racism by removing the flag.

We all know the shooting were because the flag was flying. So there will be no more shootings too!

No more shootings. No more racism.

Wonderful. Peace on earth, not brought to us by God, but politicians!

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