National Politics - 2016

Marco Rubio Loves Obamatrade …

… HE JUST DOESN’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT AT THE MOMENT This website gave up on U.S. Senator Marco Rubio of Florida a long time ago … but he crossed the rubicon with us when he cast the deciding vote for Barack Obama‘s crony capitalist trade deal earlier this year….

… HE JUST DOESN’T WANT TO TALK ABOUT IT AT THE MOMENT

This website gave up on U.S. Senator Marco Rubio of Florida a long time ago … but he crossed the rubicon with us when he cast the deciding vote for Barack Obama‘s crony capitalist trade deal earlier this year.

Rubio’s consistent support of this GOP betrayal was mentioned by The Wall Street Journal this week … which observed that he was among “the (GOP’s) establishment wing candidates” who supported this monstrosity, dubbed the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP).

But is he still supporting the legislation – which seeks to regulate more than forty percent of the global economy?

According to a Rubio spokesperson (who apparently got the WSJ to add a paragraph to its article), Rubio “backed the bill granting (Obama) fast-track trade authority this summer” but “has not decided whether to support TPP legislation.”

Hold up … what? 

In other words Rubio was for “Obamatrade” before he was undecided …

Really? 

We know Rubio loves to flip-flop on important issues but this is ridiculous.  He’s been beating the drum for months in support of this scam, which as we’ve exhaustively detailed would be terrible for the American economy (see HERE and HERE) and especially bad for South Carolina’s economy (HERE and HERE).

We’ve also exposed several of the backdoor dangers of advancing such a deal (see HERE and HERE), ripped the secrecy surrounding its negotiations (HERE) and obliterated the myth that the deal in any way, shape or form represents “free trade” (HERE).

While we were bashing Obamatrade, Rubio was embracing it – calling it the “second pillar” of his foreign policy.

“It is more important than ever that Congress give the president trade promotion authority so that he can finalize the Trans-Pacific Partnership,” Rubio said earlier this year.

Yeah … and now this guy wants to flip to the “undecided” column?

Unreal …

Obamatrade will “continue to outsource American jobs overseas, fail to do anything about currency manipulation, and once adopted, will create an international, unelected commission with broad authority to implement and interpret the agreement without any votes of Congress,” explained Rick Manning of Americans for Limited Government (ALG), the organization which has been leading the fight against this proposal.

Unfortunately thanks to Rubio’s deciding vote, Congress has no power to amend the deal.

(For an exhaustive look at Rubio’s love affair with Obamatrade, check out this article from Breitbart).

“Since Congress is forbidden from amending the agreement under terms of the fast track trade authority granted President Obama earlier this year, and the agreement will not be fixed later, the only recourse for members who share this concern is to simply vote no,” Manning concluded.

He’s absolutely right …

Who knows, though … maybe we’ll get lucky.  Maybe instead of affirming Obamatrade (again) Rubio will do us all a solid and just not show up for the vote.

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106 comments

erneba November 10, 2015 at 8:59 am

Rubio’s lack of political astuteness on certain matters indicates he probably needs more experience and more “come to Jesus” moments with senior advisers before making decisions on controversial matters. The desk chair in the Oval Office does not come with training wheels.

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Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 9:15 am

You could be right.However I know many around Rubio and he is by far the most ‘astute’ candidate on most issues.Very intelligent.

Two problems for Rubio this election cycle-one he has no control of.His young,JFK type looks gives the impression of an inexperienced politician that reminds voters of the mistake America made with the failed Barack Obama.

His biggest problem is his prior policy on immigration and even where he is today.This election is ALL about immigration and closing the border-NO Amnesty.Not sure Rubio can get over that hurdle with primary voters.

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TARevolution November 10, 2015 at 9:19 am

Great analysis. And I don’t think Rubio is all that bad on immigration. He DEMANDS that all of the Obama incompetency be addressed, and then his approach is to be realistic about the problem.

But the way he has articulated it, makes him look like an Damn the Torpedoes Amnesty guy…and Americans have NO stomach to hear that kind of talk, after what Obama has tried to do – and done- to this country.

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dwb619 November 10, 2015 at 11:23 am

fluffer

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Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 12:40 pm

He’s for Amnesty – and you know it. Liar.

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Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 12:59 pm

In 50 years.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:18 pm

Look at his Gang of Eight record. His Mom even told him to help the immigrants. And yet they even hate him.

TARevolution November 10, 2015 at 1:35 pm

You can tell the simplest of minds by how unable you are to handle complex thought. Give you one word, and that’s all you can digest, over and over. That’s why they do that. They know how stupid you are.

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 2:52 pm

We do know.

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 3:00 pm

YOU HAVE WON A SPECIAL PRIZE. Dumbest person ever on fits. LMAO !!!

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 2:58 pm

3787 up votes in 600 comments, LMAO !!!

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erneba November 10, 2015 at 9:53 am

I agree with most of what you posted, but I think he “screwed the pooch” with the “ObamaTrade” deal, and he can’t take it back at this point. He is probably my second choice, at he present time for the Republican candidate. He needs to be a bit more careful, and he will then probably rid himself of the immature label.

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flip (the real one) November 10, 2015 at 10:16 am

They better allow amnesty. I’m on government assistance and need my super-cheap food.

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TARevolution November 10, 2015 at 10:26 am

You’re Irrelevant, because you’re Stupid. You bring nothing to the table, but ignorance and what the DNC feeds you.

And the fact that you envy flip is understandable. There are a small number of contributors on this site that give it tremendous value. Flip (not his vapid imitators, like you) is one of the most substantial voices on this site, that is otherwise filled w/ creeps, save a few.

So go back to the DNC, and ask them to re-assign you to a place where there are all Dumbasses trolling. There, you will be home.

Here, you can’t hold Flip’s toilet paper roll (which you will need)…to wipe the constant shit-stream off your face.

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Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 12:40 pm

Looks – like that big bald spot forming on top of his head? Real JFK.

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Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 12:58 pm

Rubio is not a womanizing, crippled drug addict like JFK was.You have a point.Bad analogy

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Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:19 pm

True, Rubio couldn’t get laid in a whorehouse with $100 bills taped to his balding head.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:25 pm

How did Obama get so lucky at the zoo?

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:30 pm

You kidding, he’s got them lined up the hallway.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:31 pm

Rumor is he is gay.Michelle says he smells.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:32 pm

Rubio?

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 3:26 pm

Proberly cause he puts in in you EVERY day .

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 5:21 pm

Ba ba bam!!!!

TARevolution November 10, 2015 at 9:15 am

Rubio’s the last chance the Establishment has, and he is far less a concern than Jeb, Christie or the other Liberal-Tarian-Moderates. FITS hates Rubio because he took down Jeb. (though he’d never admit that)…

And Rubio’s likely toast – without a miracle—so it looks more like we’ll get a nominee out of Trump, Carson or Cruz vs Hillary. And even if she is indicted, the Democrat Party is so damaged because of Obama, she’ll rip it totally apart, if they dump her. So it looks like she’s their only option.

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dwb619 November 10, 2015 at 11:24 am

Fluffer

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Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 12:41 pm

Ain’t what they’re sayin’ on Breitbart.

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TARevolution November 10, 2015 at 1:33 pm

It’s people like you who have others who tell you how to think. I think for myself.

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Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:39 pm

Rocky is like Thumper.Neither one is really sure who they are or what they believe.Rocky hangs out on Breitbart to figure out why WE are so effective as conservatives in dominating the political landscape and why you and I are so brilliant in our messaging and appeals to save this great nation.

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 2:53 pm

We believe you are fooked up

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 2:43 pm

Yea, shit and piss.

Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 10:11 am

Populism Raises Its Ugly Head

Exploiting the fears of the middle class is not courage, it’s pandering. Rubio is right. Cruz, considering he recent support of TPP, is betraying his conscience.

Literally everything Fits says about the Trans-Pacific Partnership is a lie. Freer Trade, less tarriffs, protection of US Trade marks, copyrights, patents, legal protection and fairness to foreign investors abroad are all Republican and Libertarian values. Only 5 GOP Senators voted against it. Only 12 Democratic Senators voted for it.

Anyone who thinks American industry will thrive by the “Made in America for Americans mantra” is a fool who is leading America to steady decline. The I-Phone maybe assembled in China but 65% of its value is American and most of its sales are overseas.

We currently have a hodgepodge of useless import tarriffs that are either rarely collected because of exceptions to countries like Pakistan or merely raise costs to consumers because they don’t protect American manufacturers who have long ago closed down. Only about 1% off Federal revenue is raised by tarriffs and it is often in industries that no longer manufacture in the US anyway. So they don’t protect American jobs. Tariffs kill American jobs by making American industry dependent on them and unconpetitive in foreign markets. Eventually, they don’t invest new equipment and close when no longer competitive.

South Carolina is well positioned to benefit from TPP. We pay far more in tarriffs to foreign countries than they pay us.

Often Fits repeats the lie about the loss of South Carolina manufacturing jobs as if they moved out of the country. The fact is that the vast majority were lost due to automation which in the end is good for the worker because it raises productivity and ultimately improvements in productivity is the only way to raise wages. That is exactly what you see in South Carolina. Industries that are investing in automation pay higher wages. Those who don’t are paying lower wages and are surviving only until their technology becomes obsolete.

TPP is conservative and libertarian. The government interference in trade is big government at its worst. I understand that TPP has its flaws, but it is better than what we have and the best attainable in the current political climate.

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TARevolution November 10, 2015 at 10:21 am

You liberals constantly fear-monger on Global Warming, White Racists, Chauvinist (white) men, Domestic Terrorists, Lawless Cops, Social Security Enders….etc…

Your Voters, like you, are so ignorant, they eat the shit up, and put your evil gods in office to rob the MIDDLE CLASS Blind…while you live like kings, sitting on your lazy and corrupt asses…

You are one stupid MoFo to be talking about “Exploiting the fears of the middle class”…. Where do they get you stupid Son-of-a-Bitches of the Democrat Party?

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Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 10:26 am

You liar. It is you who are supporting the big government Democrats that voted against TPP. YOU ARE A LIAR THAT IS ON THE SAME SIDE AS SOCIALIST BENNIE SANDERS.

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TARevolution November 10, 2015 at 10:30 am

You impress me as a very easily- and media- led person. Therefore, I tend to look at the things you support, as a bad deal. The same goes for FITS.

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Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 10:39 am

You agree with Fits on TPP. You probably support chopping up unborn babies as long as it is American jobs for American big pharma.

TARevolution November 10, 2015 at 10:51 am

You’re the Liberal. You give millions to Planned Parenthood, and call it “Choice.”

Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 10:53 am

No I don’t. You. call “cutting up babies”, a jobs creator.

Mark Ames November 10, 2015 at 10:56 am

You are the liberal. You berate and castigate with hate, never offering specifics (only vague generalizations) just like liberals do. Either refute something BT posted, or shut your liberal ass up.

dwb619 November 10, 2015 at 11:25 am

flUffer

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 10:42 am

Thumper has ‘flipped’ to the liberal side. Go figure.

Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 10:47 am

Explain your siding with the Democrats in the Senate.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 10:58 am

You are siding with the American hating Obama, AGAIN.

Mark Ames November 10, 2015 at 11:00 am

Any specifics? Or is this just your typical drive-by, pseudo-conservative drivel?

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 11:07 am

Obamacare
Iran deal /ISIS jv?
illegal immigration policy
fomenting racial hatred
gay marriage
hates Christians

Mark Ames November 10, 2015 at 11:17 am

So you’re saying BT supports all those things?

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 11:26 am

Na.But I bet you do.
BT appears to be a nice guy although his constant nagging of Will on the CDV conviction and blind following of Haley gives me pause.I can forgive the Clemson thing however as Haley likes Clemson so BT will also like Clemson.:)

BT has a way of twisting numbers to support his NOW liberal views on all things political.Distorting economic numbers to support Obama is his new found interest.

Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 11:42 am

I don’t support Obamacare. It has slowed the recover and will hollow out the healthcare professions.

The reason I am criticized is precisely because l won’t “twist numbers” to oppose Obama. 94 million unable to get jobs is a lie.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 11:53 am

However 94 million adults NOT working is NOT a lie.
You just proved my point on how you manipulate numbers to support Obama.

Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 11:59 am

94 million including retirees, full time college students, stay at home moms, 16 -18 year old high schoolers.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 12:15 pm

Okay.94 million adults are NOT working. 48 million adults 21-65 have not worked ONE day in 12 months.

Just a fact.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 12:44 pm

Wrong again. YOu seem to make a living out of making a fool of yourself.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 12:57 pm

Wrong tax cheat.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 12:43 pm

It was 90 million under Bush. Fewer people are participating because aging old baby boomers like you are retiring before 65 – oh my – why you hate your own kind – beyond me.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 12:57 pm

Liar.It was NOT 90 million under Bush.You lie more than Obama.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:26 pm

Oops my mistake. It was 81 million in January 2009, up from 70 million in January 2001. Hey, that’s funny. So under Obama it’s up 12 million and he’s a failure. Under Bush it went up 11 million, and he’s a success. How do you account for that fact. Hey it’s OK – you can say it – “that fact just blows my mind!!”

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:28 pm

I love catching you in lies.It is a full time job but worth it to save America.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:29 pm

THis is your full time job. Yep – like we suspected, welfare queen.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:30 pm

Rocky you are on here more than I am.I told you what I do.You lie about what you do.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:31 pm

Oh, it’s Flip. Just noticed the ‘flip’ part in the name. Welcome back to using real avatars.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:29 pm

So back to the question, 11 million people left the workforce under Bush, so was he a failure too? Using your definition I think he was!!!

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 2:50 pm

Worst president in US history ! Hands down.

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 2:46 pm

Hillary has ALL the answers. Sit back and enjoy !

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 12:42 pm

GT opposes gay marriage, he likes to keep it loose.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 12:42 pm

In your world. 5% unemployment, uninsured rate down to 9%, DREAMERS. You’re a joke.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:19 pm

Bernie Sanders:

“But there is another set of government statistics,” Sanders continued, “and that that real unemployment if you include those people who have given up looking for work and the millions of others who are working part-time 20, 25 hours a week when they want to work full-time, when you all of that together, real unemployment is 10.5 percent.”

Donald Trump:

The official U.S. unemployment rate is 5% — the lowest in seven years — but Donald Trump calls that a “joke.”

On Monday, he claimed he’d seen numbers that show America’s real unemployment rate is as high as 42%.

Out of about 251 million American adults, roughly 102 million — or 40.6% — aren’t working.

Okay 25%. LMAO!!!!!Loser.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:22 pm

Oh no!

Nearly a third of the innovative health insurance plans created under the Affordable Care Act will be out of business at the end of 2015, following announcements Friday that plans in Oregon and Colorado are folding.

In just the past week, four co-ops, as the nonprofit plans are known, have decided or been ordered to shut down. Their demise means that eight of the 23 co-ops in existence a year ago will be unavailable to consumers shopping for 2016 coverage through insurance marketplaces created under the ACA.

Bye Bye Obamacare and illegals!

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:30 pm

Sure, sure. Been making that prediction since 2011. Yawn!!!!!

erneba November 10, 2015 at 2:00 pm

I have to agree with you somewhat on your ObamaCare call.
It is in the first stages of serious trouble, costs are up, more doctors and institutions out, and a growing sense of disenchant with the general population.
At this point, right now, Obamacare will be in the best shape it will ever be in for the next year or two, or until it is gone.
It has never lived up to its billing and is unsustainable in its present form.
Obama has wrecked everything he attempted during his Presidency.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 2:31 pm

You’re not Sic. You’re Flip.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 2:48 pm

Huh? Are you confused or drinking? :)

TARevolution November 10, 2015 at 10:49 am

Funny, how so many of them profess their Conservative values at first (FITS, Boz, BT) only to end up being liars.

It’s very fitting with the Democrat Culture of dishonesty and corruption. They don’t care how they feed their Greed. Morals have no place with them. Screw everybody to get what they want.

dwb619 November 10, 2015 at 11:25 am

FLuffer

dwb619 November 10, 2015 at 11:25 am

fLuffer

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 10:42 am

What happened to you? Except riding Will about the CDV conviction and the affair with Haley you don’t appear to believe in a damn thing or have a moral compass anymore-most of the time siding with the liberals on Fits.

Sanders? At least he believes in SOMETHING.You are all over the damn place trying to appease the socialist contributors on here.I miss the ole Thumper. :)

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Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 10:58 am

This, unfortunately, is not about liberalism vs. Conservatism. It’s about preying on middle class fears to sell a snake oil (populism) that will not protect jobs in the long run. The only manufacturing jobs that will endure are those that can produce products that are competitive on the world market.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 11:04 am

If Obama is for it-it just can’t be good for America,Just like Paul Ryan said about Obama and immigration-he can’t be trusted on that issue.Why would the trade issue be any different? Look what Obama did with Iran.He hates America and wants to take it down.

Why would we trust him with trade? Until you realize that we are at war with liberalism (just like with ISIS) for the very soul of this nation you will continue just to be a follower of those seeking to destroy this nation.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 12:44 pm

You’re arguing with a retard – you know that right?

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 12:55 pm

Appeals court keeps block on Obama immigration
Politico? – 1 day ago
whose panel oversees immigration policy, on Monday night. “President Obama’s decision to …

ha ha ha….speaking of retards that believe illegals will EVER gain citizenship and vote….

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:02 pm

You appear agitated today? Up late making those hateful comments last night on Fits wear you out or did Fits make you go to Starbucks and pay for coffee this morning? :)

Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 1:10 pm

I usually avoid TAR, but occasionally arguing with him is one of my sinful pleasures. I use the same rule he uses: There are no rules.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:28 pm

I find it sometimes a pleasure, don’t think it’s sinful, and so long as I don’t come in contact with him I’m pretty sure I’m safe from herpes.

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 3:11 pm

Agreed, I just opened the can.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:28 pm

Thumper – I really must say, you are spot on once again. You sure you don’t want to join me over on the dark side?

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:29 pm

He already has.Tell him you think Haley is God and he will hang the hammer and sickle out in front of the house.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:31 pm

Haley is a Hindu Godess.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:32 pm

LMAO! You just blew it! :)

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:35 pm

She’s Curry sweet.

Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 1:32 pm

If Trump is the nominee, we’ll see.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:33 pm

I want Trump to be the nominee. Actually, I am starting to think he’ll get it. If you look, three months out from Iowa, he’s been the steady Eddy since June. Carson is flaming out, Carly’s skanking out, Trump is going to crush Rubito tonight, and Jeb’s like a dead fish. Unless Kasich pulls it off, it’s gonna be Trump.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:35 pm

Kasich.hahahahahahaha….
Will be Carson or Rubio with Trump throwing his support behind either one.
Trump would still be a good President however and is worthy of a TRUE Americans support.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:36 pm

Nope, it’s Trump all the way.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:40 pm

A great American FOR Americans.

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 3:08 pm

Have a gressed pig race it may find the winner !

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:33 pm

I figured such.You would rather elect a pro abortion,gay marriage supporting socialist than a TRUE American.

Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 1:34 pm

Hey, we can’t all support Hillary.

Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 1:40 pm

Populism is the one ideology that requires no convictions.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:42 pm

I did some work for Jesse Helms late 80’s-early 90’s. Being from Ohio I had family members ask how I could work to elect Helms.

My answer-TED KENNEDY. By the way Jesse was a kind and decent man.

Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 1:44 pm

He had convictions. He baited the opposition a little to much. I would’ve voted for him.

Hank 'flip' Geepers November 10, 2015 at 1:45 pm

We are making progress. :)

Sic Semper Tyrannis November 10, 2015 at 3:06 pm

HAHAHAHA, you never worked according to your tax returns. Are you Mitt Romney ?

dwb619 November 10, 2015 at 11:24 am

fluffeR

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Wheel Man November 10, 2015 at 11:14 pm

Thanks for exposing Will for lying hypocrite that he really is. I am astounded by the utter lack of journalistic ethics and outright distortion (and omissions) of basic facts in 90% of the articles on this website. Apparently, generating clicks (=cash) is far more important than the truth and journalistic integrity.

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Bible Thumper November 10, 2015 at 12:06 pm

Legal protection of American Investments in foreign countries
Fits often portrays this as paying companies to move American jobs out of the country. What it actually does is allow American companies to have better control over supply networks instead of purchases from foreign companies. That would allow American companies to protect American jobs. Those suppliers could be bought by the Chinese instead.

China/Hong Kong has now has more foreign direct investments than the United States and is growing rapidly. That is not good for American workers. That is ONLY ONE REASON why we need TPP.

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Rocky Verdad November 10, 2015 at 2:00 pm

Hillary is gonna smack him down like a day old empanada. She’s gonna make yucca outta that guy. He’s gonna look like Old Cloths stew.

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Mike Holder November 10, 2015 at 6:55 pm

Don’t forget Rubio was part of the gang of eight, a bipartisan group pushing immigration reform (translated – amnesty).

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shifty henry November 10, 2015 at 10:59 pm

There is a guy who joined a website that lets you bid on free-lance
work from all over the world. Now he’s an unemployment statistic in 170 countries.

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