National Politics - 2016

Jeb Bush Needs To Deal With This …

WARMONGERING IRONY …  || By FITSNEWS ||  Prepare to get dizzy … okay? First, the 30,000-foot view: The 2016 presidential campaign is taking place against a backdrop of heightened support for U.S. military invention (and the ever-escalating price tag that goes with, um, “national defense“).  Sure it was all the…


|| By FITSNEWS ||  Prepare to get dizzy … okay?

First, the 30,000-foot view: The 2016 presidential campaign is taking place against a backdrop of heightened support for U.S. military invention (and the ever-escalating price tag that goes with, um, “national defense“).  Sure it was all the result of some relentless (and ongoing) scaremongering, but whatever … the bottom line is America (especially early-voting South Carolina) is in a tizzy.

Don’t believe us?  Read this story.

Things have gotten so crazy that even non-interventionist Rand Paul has become something of a warmonger (although he doesn’t like getting called out for it).

Against this broader backdrop, though, is a general acknowledgment that the once-concluded – now rebooted – Iraq War was sold to the American public via a pack of lies.  And that this pack of lies – spoon fed by former U.S. president George W. Bush – will hurt the presidential ambitions of former Florida governor Jeb Bush.

Never mind the real problem …

Anyway, we’ve long maintained the most compelling indictment of America’s last “rush to war” – and the costly quagmire it created – was a skit performed by comedian David Chappelle for Comedy Central.  We’re written about “Black Bush” on several occasions (HERE and HERE) but the clip bears re-watching …

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So …

What is Jeb Bush’s view on his brother’s war?  Would he have invaded Iraq, too?

“I would have and so would have Hillary Clinton, just to remind everybody,” Bush recently told Megyn Kelly of Fox News. “And so would almost everybody that was confronted with the intelligence they got.”

Of course Bush acknowledges the intelligence was “faulty.”

“In retrospect the intelligence that everybody saw – that the world saw, not just the United States – was faulty,” he told Kelly.  “And in retrospect, once we invaded and took out Saddam Hussein, we didn’t focus on security first, and the Iraqis in this incredibly insecure environment turned on the United States military because there was no security for themselves and their families.”

But Bush still says he would have invaded ..

“News flash to the world, if they’re trying to find places where there’s big space between me and my brother, this might not be one of those,” he told Kelly.

Wow … talk about an interesting “strategery.”

America’s “War on Terror” – initiated by George W. Bush and pursued by Barack Obama – cost American taxpayers between $4-6 trillion.  It also cost thousands of American lives – yet failed to make our nation safer.

Hence the War on Terror II …

Of course to be fair to Bush, his “if at first you fail, throw more money at it” approach to warmongering fits the broader “Republican” view of government championed by his brother.

Meaning he’s nothing if not consistent …


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Print money 4 more war/welfare May 12, 2015 at 10:23 am

What a blessing it will be when the US’s fiscal house of cards finally comes crashing down.

The the overseas wars will finally stop and then we’ll get to see if Jade Helm was really about the oppression of civil uprisings or not.

No one likes a bully outside of his friends, & even his friends don’t like him enough to put their skin on the line for him. The US has become a caricature of an evil empire/bully.

unclewillie1 May 12, 2015 at 10:47 am

I love it when “patriots” revel in the concept of USA collapse. kind of like the old Vietnam burn the village to save it thinking. Anarchists live. Tin foil is becoming in short supply around here And in Texas.

FastEddy23 May 12, 2015 at 1:06 pm

Yeah. Karl Rove’s meat puppet has no clue about how to fix the economy that his daddy screwed up … And Obama, too. (Where is the white/black face “comedy” central take on that?)

The republicrats still don’t get it. “It’s the economy, stupid.” We can’t even begin to build more war toys without it.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 10:37 am

Jeb is sinking almost as fast as Hillary, because of his Nut-job, liberal-tarian-like stances…

I bet Jeb’s polled and found that most Americans want a president who will STAND UP for their country…especially after 8 years of Obama and FITS-types siding w/ Brutal Sharia terrorists…

Get used to it FITS…if any candidate is going to win the White House…he/she will have to take the issues and Slap the S#!t out of you, the media and the Democrat Party, with them…

You stand for everything the people hate, and are sick of…it’s why Ravenel CRASHED under your tutelage…He should be PI$$#d w/ you…same w/ Mace and Tom Ervin…

FITS is not the Grandfather of Candidates…he is the GRAVEYARD of candidates…LMAO…

And Jeb is figuring that out…because he is desperate to save his campaign…

Big Brother May 12, 2015 at 10:42 am


pogo2 May 12, 2015 at 11:10 am

He sounded tangled and twisted last night…on everything from education to immigration.Kelly did a number on him.Great job.

I appreciate his faith however at times I thought it was Obama talking about policy.A great gov but he has become much too liberal for America.

Ahahahaha!! May 12, 2015 at 11:22 am

“Get used to it FITS…if any candidate is going to win the White House…he/she will have to take the issues and Slap the S#!t out of you, the media and the Democrat Party, with them…”

Here ya go again with your dogmatic bullshit…tell us more about what (or what didn’t) happened in ’12. Like ths:

“If Newt is the GOP Nominee (whoever gets it) is the next president…”

pogo2 May 12, 2015 at 11:29 am

I can tell ya what has happened since Muslim Obama was elected in 2008:

Control of senate…+11 seats
Control of house….+75 seats
34 governorships
1500 + seats in state legislatures….

Pogo's Stick Is A Dick May 12, 2015 at 11:34 am

And no White House…’cause y’all are kooks!

fc May 12, 2015 at 11:45 am

Republicans have won 5 out of the last 9 Presidential elections.

Pogo Dick May 12, 2015 at 11:53 am

Soon it’ll 5 out of the 10 presidential elections…

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 11:57 am

Really. Because the Dems have won 4 of the last 6 – and the last two – by huge wipe-out margins in the electoral college. But hey, Abe Lincoln won the Civil War too? And we need more bayonets and horses – damn it!!!

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:02 pm

Obama destroyed the Democrat Party.Your ‘contact’ at the Pakistan Embassy didn’t tell you that?LMAO!!!

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 12:34 pm

He retired. Now rakes in bigger bucks as a contractor. But I will tell you what he said in 2009. They were sure he was in Pakistan. They had no doubt about that. What they couldn’t tell was if Pakistan was protecting him, or just didn’t know where he was. But they were convinced he was there. The other thing they had wrong at first was where. They thought he was in the far western part of Pakistan near the border. Intel had placed him in and around that area multiple times through 2006. If he wasn’t there, they surmised he was in Islamabad itself, but most of that information was not reliable.

Rocky's in Dizzy World May 12, 2015 at 12:05 pm

Speaking of Abe Lincoln and the Civil War Mr.Fairy Tale…the Republicans control a majority of state legislatures for the FIRST time since RECONSTRUCTION…post Civil War socialist.

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 12:37 pm

If you want to call it a tie, each won 7 of the last 14. Or the GOP won 9 of the last 16. Or the DEMs won 12 of the last 21. I mean we could go on all day. Bottom line, Dems won 2 of the last two. But I don’t think the GOP will nominate a ditz-head VP candidate this time like in 2008, or a candidate that the VP nominee calls “Stinky” like they did in 2012. So it should be a tight one.

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:49 pm

Things have changed.Obama destroyed the Democrat Party.America looks at them as the party of appeasement, perversion and that they can be trusted to protect our communities.

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 12:50 pm

That would explain when they have the generic poll the Dems and GOP poll in a tie?

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:53 pm

LMAO!!! You know that means the Republicans are +10 then.Just like the mid terms.Just like Israel.Just like GB. Media and MOST pollsters skew their polls for liberals.

Allah May 12, 2015 at 1:15 pm

Like those 2012 polls with Romney winning?

fc May 12, 2015 at 1:18 pm

Never saw those polls.Romney would have won if Christians hadn’t stayed home.

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 1:39 pm

Interesting article today, % of Americans who identify themselves as Christain has fallen from 78% in 2000 to 70% today, with the lartest collapse being in the younger demographics. Might want to rethink that amnesty stance, since most Hispanics are Christain.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 12:46 pm

I was 100% RIGHT about what Obama was doing to our country (and you were lying through your F*#king teeth it turns out)…

Is that what you mean about tell us more about WHAT HAPPENED…???…Dumb@$$…

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 11:58 am

Jeb isn’t sinking. He’s tied with Walker Dairyland Ranger in IA and NH. And Jeb hasn’t even started spending money, or announced. It’s Jeb versus Hillary – big government RINO or Grandma – take your pick buddy.

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:00 pm

Jeb is not even running.He won’t announce. The ‘internals’ are showing him as not winning in 2016.He is a ‘patriot’ and won’t run.

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 12:29 pm

You mean John Boehner’s press guy quit to go work for a guy who’s not going to run? His PAC is about to hit the $100 million mark, but all for nothing because he’s not going to run? Please.

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:44 pm

My inside sources say he will NOT run.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 12:44 pm

I’ve already schooled you @$$ on polls 1.5 years out…Dumb@$$…

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 1:13 pm

Well, better school yourself on money in politics there Tango.

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:47 pm

Are you ‘vicupstate’? He was 0-14 in 2014 mid terms, including Fitzgerald over Kasich in Ohio and Brownback being defeated in Kansas.

You as dumb as him?

Buz Martin May 12, 2015 at 11:01 am

Hah! I’d forgotten that the “Hollah-Hollah-Hollah” guy was in that, as “Some Black Dude.”

Buz Martin May 12, 2015 at 11:02 am

Yeah, Jeb’s got some ‘splainin’ to do, all right. Even Laura Ingram is calling him out over his tortured stance on Iraq and his big brother’s tainted legacy.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 11:08 am

When Obama is gone…the Democrat Party will have A LOT of ‘Spainin to do…Michelle (see Tuskegee Hate Speech) is already setting up a RACISM defense once all the mess of the Obama disaster is uncovered…

That’s what you have to face…it could kill your party for the next decade or more…

pogo2 May 12, 2015 at 11:12 am

‘your’ party…Buz is in EVERY party if you his bizzare ‘book’ of works. Lifelong very liberal Democrat,Tea Party,Green Party…you name it and Buz has tried to find a home in some political cesspool.

pogo2(original) May 12, 2015 at 11:17 am

Stop trying to be me Buz.You can’t compete with the genius of me and GT.Always lying about being a “lifelong Democrat”

SYNTwist May 12, 2015 at 11:22 am

You ought to see Boz in a dress.So cute.We put on Donnie and Marie.I get out the box Franzia and my box opens wide up.

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 11:27 am

Morning Flip!

The Buzzman May 12, 2015 at 12:22 pm

Flippy pogo’s Sibylism is metastasizing to an alarming degree.

Maybe Sibyl isn’t the right name for it.

More like “When Rabbit Howls.”

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:27 pm

You pulled the same bullshit on the SNOB…and why it no longer exists.Go play with somebody else.I ain’t interested….

The Buzzman May 12, 2015 at 12:32 pm

You were despised by every person who posted on The SNOB. Even those you now praise as “successful businessmen” and “respected local leaders.” YOU were the first to accuse them of being a bunch of drunks, driving drunk, etc. Even accused one commenter of being a child molester who abused his own daughter.

You mocked another one for disclosing his depression and a suicide attempt. You are a loathsome, reprehensible troll. Nothing but trouble. Hope you get rolled next time you visit Yellow Springs — IF you’ve ever really been there. Beautiful town, with a lot of very cool people in it. I can see you not fitting in very well at all.

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:43 pm

LMAO!!! Liar…hey go FALSELY accuse the mayor of drunk driving AGAIN…or how about a repeat performance of you dressed like the Big Lebowski…showing up at a city council meeting and demanding he resign…helped get TSN sued? Now after Fits?

You are the town clown.A psychotic version of a drunk Otis Campbell in Mayberry,NC. .Go the fuck away.

The Buzzman May 12, 2015 at 12:51 pm

You and GT have been trying to make the case that this blog will shut down the way that The SNOB did, all based on a total misunderstanding of the meaning of the Kelley verdict and whether or not it will stand the appeals process. Trying to strike fear in Will’s heart over the threatened Bingham suit, now. Same old smoke and mirrors, song and dance, one trick dog and pony show.

Which one is the dog, and who does it wag? Which one is the pony, and who rides it?

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:59 pm

I haven’t made the case for ANYTHING shutting down.I don’t want to see Will sued or for Fits to shut down.Unlike you I don’t wish harm on others and their families.

You are the one with your ‘plant’ SYNTwist that began deleting accounts and emails about the time of the Fits article on a possible civil suit.

Others on here were suspicious about that.Go away Boz.You are starting to bother me.

The Buzzman May 12, 2015 at 12:21 pm

I’m sure you think your dialog with your many Sibyl identities is amusing, pogo. But most on here know that message did not come from the real SynTwist. She’s off of Disqus now, and Facebook as well.

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:25 pm

Boz ,somebody (YOU)? has hijacked my name all morning.Fuck you.Grow up you fucking weirdo.

I have no interest in discussing anything with you.

The Buzzman May 12, 2015 at 12:28 pm

You can’t really “hijack” a fake name. Or effectively sue one. Even “Elmer Fudd” was never found guilty. They had only a circumstantial case that it was him. Dropped charges, once the allegation had helped to smear him. But in your case, you have a long history of multiple screen IDs, sometimes arguing with each other. That’s what killed The SNOB, no matter how much you and others want to blame that on me.

pogo(certified) May 12, 2015 at 11:32 am

You are a pussy at trying to be the real me. Buz is a masturbating pot-head who sells sex toys and tries to hypnotize women to turn them pervert like him, and you never even mention that. Turn in your pogo card!

pogo(certifiable) May 12, 2015 at 1:00 pm

This my dear FITSNews friends is what happens when you close the State Mental Hospital.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 12:49 pm

FITS is a trangulator, too.

They try to ingratiate themselves to any issue-de-jour – to be liked – and end up exposing themselves as hypocrites and liars…

Saluda Rapids May 12, 2015 at 12:51 pm

Kind of like a guy who knows nothing about sports that jumps on the Patriots bandwagon b/c they think it’s a political issue? Ain’t that something. And ironic you used the word “liar.” Throw in cheater and murderer, and you have today’s New England Patriots.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 1:09 pm

LMAO…you are as desperate as you are stupid…

Pogo Dick May 12, 2015 at 1:02 pm

Ha! Yet, you take a young woman’s name for your FaceBook page (Emily Peterkin) and a man named T. Lawrence from Irmo for your blog? STFU, you lying piece of shit.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 1:08 pm

Boz…wouldn’t it be more appropriate to quit lying…and contradicting your own lies from day to day…instead of attacking me…

If I’ve had to use a different name, it’s only because your NAZI-@$$ has banned me under my real name because I told truth and presented reality…2 things liberals fear…LMAO…

30-06 May 12, 2015 at 1:20 pm

As I remember the real Ms. Peterkin came over and posted a couple of times. She was not very happy with you. I see that you STILL haven’t had the decency to delete the fake profile yet.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 1:34 pm

Boz, You’re so textbook corrupt liberal…

Instead of worrying about the content and truth presented by people much smarter and much more honest, than you…you try to take out the author of the truth and reality that you are too stupid, or too coward, to face…

Why not just quit being a liar..and you would not have to worry about what others say…and trying to silence them…

Liar Liar May 12, 2015 at 1:45 pm

Looks like you’re the one doing the lying.

Pick A Name, Make It A Girls May 12, 2015 at 3:44 pm

Ahahaha! Only a low-life piece of shit would do that. Tango, the lying ass bitch.

guest May 12, 2015 at 2:02 pm

Boz says he works for/with the mayor’s wife? With friends like this who needs enemies?

Pogo Dick May 12, 2015 at 3:41 pm

You got called out and bitch slapped. Take someone’s real name and dump all over it. You should have gotten sued or your ass kicked. Good thng some people don’t know your real name, huh? Total pussy.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 3:55 pm

Expressing your personal hatred for one who defeats you intellectually…on a political website…is a sign of failure and weakness on your part…is it not??…LMAO…

fc/pogo1/pogo2 May 12, 2015 at 8:58 pm

V.Terf Raud TontoBubbaGoldstein • a few seconds ago

Only contributor I know that lives with ‘mamma’-per Boz himself-is Boz himself.

Apparently has not held a regular job for years…yet tells The Sun News he lives in Murrells Inlet AND rents a ‘place’ in Myrtle Beach?

Now why in the fuck would you say you live with ‘mamma’ and at the same time rent a place in Myrtle Beach?

Maybe the place in MB had a better ‘dishwasher’? LMAO…

Martin, who lives in the Horry County part of Murrells Inlet and rents a place to live in Myrtle Beach part of the year…

Read more here: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.c

I am going to email you some ‘stuff’ since they are threatening you. Will be traveling next couple of weeks -actually in SC part of my trip…won’t be on much…keep up the fight for TRUTH…

fc May 12, 2015 at 1:05 pm

This is what he did on TSN.What a shame.Had a good discussion going on this thread.Appointments all day.Have good one GT.

easterndumbfuckistan May 12, 2015 at 2:48 pm

If you can’t triangulate, they you can’t locate, and you can’t navigate. With out triangulation you are lost on tides or in the woods.

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 3:14 pm

When you triangulate, you end up strangulating…yourself…(see Ravenel – see Tom Ervin)…

GrandTango May 12, 2015 at 11:11 am

Don’t tease us w/ tat Bush photo. What I would not give to have a president, like Bush, who is not a bigot…and who loves his country…

Bush looks GREAT compared to the Disaster Obama is…and it’s not smart on your part to remind everyone…. Considering FITS’ political slant…

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:11 pm

Interesting Fits used Dave Chappell. Drive thru Yellow Springs, Ohio at different times of the year and you will that fucking pot head smoking dope on the street corner.

I hate it when the media uses racist dope heads to denigrate our military.

Manray9 May 12, 2015 at 11:16 am

Perhaps Jeb should consider that reminding the American voters of G. W. may not be the ticket to the White House?

RogueElephant May 12, 2015 at 11:21 am

Hillary and Kerry were both on board to fight Iraq till the war was going on and it became politically expedient to be against it. Then the “WMDs” just evaporated from the news media. Most were flushed down the Euphrates river and taken to the Bacau valley in Syria. Where did the nerve gas come from that Asad used on his own people ?? I’m not saying I support Jeb. Love George but not so much Jeb or Daddy Bush. But the Iraq war was and still is part of the war on terror. Obummer only gave back what our military fought and died for. I just hope we don’t have to do it again to fix his mistake.

pogo2 May 12, 2015 at 11:26 am

Correct on all fronts Rogue.No WMD’s but Hussein used them on the Kurds. W. was is Godly man that loves this country.He took the fight to them.We were winning that fight until Muslim Obama gave those gains away to install the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Queda in the middle east.

Ask Israel ,Egypt and Saudi Arabia what they think of Obama.

Jonny Logic May 12, 2015 at 11:50 am

Do you idiots really believe that crap? First, the WMD’s used on the Kurds came from us. Second, everyone knew removing Saddam would create a power vacuum, which is why Georgie the 1st didn’t take out Saddam. And Obama gets crap cause he has to clean up that mess?!?!? Basically Georgie part deux invaded for the oil and money for Haliburton, left a mess, and we had to pay for it with 2,000+ lives and $4 trillion. Y’all are so stupid and ignorant I am surprised you know how to type.

fc May 12, 2015 at 12:17 pm

lol…he gassed his own people…Hussein…
Muslim Obama incited the overthrow of Mubarack and installed the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt…they decided they wanted NONE of that…Obama got rid of Gaddafi and installed Al Queda and ISIS..Yemen ditto…Obama even scares the shit out of Saudi arabia…

Obama said the greatest sound he ever heard was the Islamic morning prayer and why he an appeaser to these radicals…

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 1:13 pm

No, he said the greatest sound he ever heard was Romney crying, and Sarah Palin answering interview questions with Kati Couric.

fc May 12, 2015 at 1:16 pm

hmmm…I thought it was white businesses burning and Michelle calling America evil and racist…

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 1:20 pm

Hey, side note. Since I was away on R&R – did Wil ever run anything on the jobs numbers?

fc May 12, 2015 at 1:27 pm

Yes.29% of those on unemployment have been drawing for 27 weeks or longer. Labor participation rate is lowest in 50 years.

Jack May 12, 2015 at 1:38 pm

Unemployment applications at 20 year low. Unemployment rate down again.
Total net jobs created during 8 years of Bush 1,281,000
Total net jobs created during 1st 6 years of Obama 7,354,000

Rocky May 12, 2015 at 1:40 pm

Dang, thems good numbers.

RogueElephant May 12, 2015 at 12:26 pm

Slowly pull your head out of your ass and stick it back in the sand. Don’t damage your ears. LOL

Jonny Logic May 12, 2015 at 12:33 pm

Really, which part of what I said wasn’t true? I know facts aren’t your strong suit, but try coming with some. Really. Try.

The Buzzman May 12, 2015 at 12:37 pm

“beck in the sand”

Freudian slippage is SO entertaining!

Bill May 12, 2015 at 1:31 pm

Yes they believe that crap. Halliburton made hundreds of billions of dollars in war profit, and then moved their headquarters to Dubai, so they would not have to pay taxes on the money we paid them or disclose exactly how much money they made on the back of the US Taxpayer on no bid contracts.
Remember when we were told by the Bush Adm. that Iraq would pay for the war with oil money, and suddenly that promise just disappeared. Halliburton put the kibosh on that, when they realized the Iraq would have no money to pay them to rebuild the oil wells, we blew up. Just another source of revenue source courtesy of the US taxpayer.
Faulty intelligence. Right. They ignored plenty of intelligence they did not want to hear.

RogueElephant May 12, 2015 at 12:24 pm

Did you ever think you would see Israel, Saudi Aribia and Egypt on the same side? A vacuum in world leadership creates some strange bed fellows.

fc May 12, 2015 at 1:29 pm

It sure does.Nobody trusts the devil.

M2000 May 12, 2015 at 11:38 am

Rand Paul has to deal with this…I remember his papa backing Cindy Sheehan after she made comments claiming the Iraqi terrorists are “freedom fighters”:

idiotwind May 12, 2015 at 12:13 pm

the bushes believe americans admire firmness and decisiveness above all, even above being right. they could be correct in this belief. i think many if not most south carolina voters place ‘decisiveness’ above ‘ability to change course based on new and contradictory evidence’.


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