“REPUBLICAN” DIVIDING LINE SOLIDIFIED …
S.C. governor Nikki Haley‘s decision to go “full-establishment” in her response to U.S. president Barack Obama‘s final State of the Union speech this week has generated a flood of reaction up and down the political spectrum.
Establishment “Republican” figures (and some liberal Democrats) have raved over the inclusiveness of her remarks … while more conservative GOP figures bristled at its tone of appeasement.
Non-political people? They were just mystified by Haley’s teeth …
Meanwhile the target of Haley’s soft-spoken smackdown – GOP presidential frontrunner Donald Trump – made his views regarding the South Carolina governor perfectly clear.
Our view? Haley’s address – well-written and reasonably well-delivered – said nothing of any real substance. It basically told critics of Washington, D.C.’s bipartisan mess to sit down and shut up – lest she compare them to murdering white supremacists.
It then proceeded to offer many of the same GOP platitudes we’ve heard for years …
Basically, Haley chose to back the big government wing of the GOP lock, stock and barrel – a choice we believe puts her at odds with the ideological shift in her own party (to say nothing of disaffected fiscally conservative, socially liberal voters who never identified with the GOP in the first place).
How is Haley’s speech playing with other observers?
“While Haley’s performance Tuesday night may have indeed solidified her A-list status in the Republican establishment, the primetime moment was actually the culmination of years of careful – and often quiet – backstage maneuvering by the governor’s team as they worked to position her as a top-tier contender for the vice-presidential nomination,” BuzzFeed’s McKay Coppins wrote, adding that Haley “seems destined to become both a prominent fixture of this year’s ‘veepstakes’ conversation – and a target of hard-right populists.”
One of those populists – radio host Rush Limbaugh – devoted most of his show Wednesday to Haley’s speech.
According to Limbaugh, Haley’s speech was further evidence that the GOP remains bent on rejecting its own base.
“(Haley) goes after the loud voices, the angry voices and that could be anybody,” he said. “And she admits today that she was talking about Trump, to a lesser extent (Ted) Cruz. She also means talk radio, she also means the conservative base and don’t believe anything other than that.”
“But here’s the thing folks,” Limbaugh continued, “this is to me one of the greatest bits of evidence that the Republican party is not just anti-conservative but it is very much pro-elite. It is a club that they don’t want a whole lot of people joining.”
Specifically, they don’t want Trump joining the club – even though, according to Limbaugh, he has “put together a coalition of supporters that on paper is exactly what the Republican Party claims it wants.”
This website has never been a fan of Limbaugh’s – but it’s hard to argue that point.
It’s also hard to argue polling data which shows a big chunk of Democrats – and huge swaths of independents – who are rallying to “The Donald’s” banner. Independent voters and crossover Democrats are what the GOP claims it needs to win national elections – yet the party establishment is increasingly hostile to anyone who builds such coalitions.
“They don’t want it,” Limbaugh added. “Nikki Haley made it clear last night they don’t want whatever Trump (has) done. They don’t want Trump, they don’t want the people supporting Trump, they don’t want the way Trump has done it.”
Sound familiar? This is exactly what happened in 2012 with the Ron Paul movement … whose members were told in no uncertain terms that they were unwelcome in the GOP’s “diverse” tent.
Over on Breitbart News – another site which speaks to the burgeoning conservative contingent of anti-establishment voters – Haley’s speech was also viewed as a failure. Well, five failures.
Specifically, Haley was chastised for “ignoring Obama,” “attacking Republicans,” “attacking Trump,” “forgetting sailors in danger,” (i.e. this story) and “ignoring social issues.”
“Haley offered no actual response to what President Obama had said in his State of the Union address, and few direct criticisms of his policies,” Breitbart’s Joel B. Pollack wrote.
Of course it’s hard to criticize someone whose words you are basically echoing …
“Both President Barack Obama and Republican South Carolina Gov. Nikki Haley – who delivered the GOP rebuttal to the State of the Union –seemed to speak directly to Donald Trump at times on Tuesday night,” CNN’s Rebekah Metzler wrote. “In fact, they had strikingly similar messages of tolerance and bipartisanship.”
In fact Metzler’s piece played a game of “Who Said It?” – interspersing Haley and Obama’s eerily similar rhetoric.
Bottom line? Haley capably advanced the GOP’s failed approach of sounding conservative without meaning it – while demonizing those who actually do mean it. And who are succeeding in advancing their ideas.
Sound like a winning strategy? Let’s ask the guy she endorsed for president in 2012 about that, shall we?
Wonder if she was wearing her hooker boots while giving her speech
Those would be her pimp boots. The way she’s turned you fools out, I’d say you’re the bitch and she’s your Daddy.
thanks for your kind words, Michael
nice of you to take your hands off your WMD for a minute or two to knock out out a few words on the keyboard
Elected twice and headed for a VP nod. Yep, you are definitely her bitch. Little cockroach ass bitch.
Really hung up on the bitch thing
Try calamine lotion, no drink it
Did ya notice how red her knees were?
You must kneel on carpet?
You must really hate when I beeech slap you, and after dwelling on it all night, and popping open a few cold beers to chase down the Wild Turkey, you have to create a new account (which you say will be hacked) that insults my family. God you’re a weak individual. When you die, specificy creamation, because if they try to bury you, you’re such a foul and unpleasant corpse, the earth will keep spitting you back out.
You thought ‘grandtangosuglydog’ was cool.I am just honoring his work.
My goodness Rocky the things you have posted about Christians,conservatives and their children etc…have been disgraceful.Continuing to go after ‘Grand Tango’/Terry Ward(?) and his family/job is not cool.
Don’t be so sensitive ‘bomb thrower’.You can dish it but you sure can’t take it. LMAO!!!!
You must be drunk. I’m a Catholic – why would I attack true Christians or their children?
My prediction is your children will be as despicable and flawed as your sorry,lying cheating ass.
Haters got a hate.
Like when you FALSELY accused Joshua Kimbrell of child molestation? You got a bad habit of this shit:
Rocky • a year ago
Why is it that conservatives say Dems are destroying America with some pro-gay progressive agenda, and then they end up fondling little boys? What a fine upstanding upstater. There’s a reason smart people live in the Low Country – to stay away from pervs like this. And he’ll probably get off. Again – ba da boom. Hey, wasn’t he a blogger for Big T.
Like you wouldn’t tuck a Jackson in to the top of one of them. ;-)
To hell with a Jackson, I would go straight to a Johnson
Rush Limbaugh’s still alive???
At least Rush can scrape up some advertisers (barely)….FitsNews, not so much.
I’m not big fan of Limbaugh, but I don’t think “barely” describes his ability to pick up advertisers, stations, etc. That clown banks some serious coin for running his mouth 3 hours a day a few days a week…
Must be the Viagra.
Or the OxyContin.
Yeah and you liberal American haters go to place for evil went under=AL Jazeera went under….
Guess you and mama will have to subscribe to the ISIS Gazette.
May I suggest yoga or mediation. Either one would do you a world of good.
Most liberals got rid of cable years ago.
You probably have your cable, internet and phone bundled together like a fucking old moron.
Breitbart and Limbaugh and Coulter, oh my!
The Flip / Tango info loop.
Bring home some beans tonight.I loved shitting on your face last night.Taco night.
Stop jerking off in the bathroom. God you’re gross.
Try to sell any shitty blogs recently?
I am convinced that Coulter is actually a liberal male actor who has created this insanely over the top female conservative character as political satire.
I bet you’re a real sink ass LOOKER.
Awe, wittle Flippy has to attack people again.
We only go after income taxes. Since you’re unemployed we don’t give a rat’s ass about you.
She does have a huge Adam’s apple.
I know, right?
Obama, the ayatollah, ISIS,OH MY!
I finally got around to watching her speech this morning. I thought she did a good job, and showed some genuine courage and leadership.
I never thought she had much of a chance to be VP, as long as Susanna Martinez was around. But Martinez has had a couple of bad problems lately, so a Haley VP is actually possible, as long as Trump isn’t the nominee. However, the prospect of Trump winning the nomination is growing every day it seems.
Haley’s rebuttal speech was outdated by 6+ months, out of touch with all current events, not mainstream conservative thinking. She came off as lecturing and talking down to Americans – as in disrespectful. She showed her true stripes- not someone I would ever vote for in the future. Whoever would pick her as a VP mate would be a complete failure.
You must be one of the angry and irrational voices she was talking about.
She’ll be making money in Washington, while you’re at home looking at kiddy movies for a new profile pic.
Excellent post.The Republican establishment is STILL in denial about Trump. Shame because he handed them a winner with the immigration issue and linking it o the economy,crime,trade and foreign policy.
If the Republicans are smart they will ride Trump/Cruz into the WH and shut the borders down with a WALL,deportation and enforcement of existing immigration laws. Democrats are out of voters and without illegal immigration and the hope of amnesty/citizenship they are finished as a party.
Or youre in denial about the Establishment.
You are living in a fantasy land. We are kicking you losers to the curb and putting Haley and Rubio out there to attract a more diverse voter base. You old, white racists just can’t get us to the White House again. Later taters!
Whites will decide this election.Get over it.
Then why are Haley and Rubio being pushed to the nation by us and you old, white racists are being led off to the pasture by Hillary’s piped piper, Trump?
Actually, in retrospect, her top made her look pretty nice. Little snow cones.
If it were not for them angry founding fathers at tyrannical rule, we’d be taxed to death, oh wait, we are being taxed to death, might be time to stop it again, that’s why we’re angry, unstoppable state and federal spending on unconstitutional programs and bloated bureaucracies in local, state and federal institutions.
It would be hard to believe from reading Fitsnews or listening to Limbaugh that Haley has a 81% approval rating among SC Republicans and Trump only has support of 24% according to the latest December Winthrop survey. Obama has a 93% disapproval among the same voters.
Fits’ and Limbaugh’s statements have no basis in reality unless you’re talking about reality TV. All this negative reaction to Haley’s speech is pure manufactured “reality TV” drama.
Haley had her chance,She chose a PRO Amnesty/citizenship path to please her sugar daddy’s inside the RNC and it has destroyed her national political ambitions.
As her detractors continue to rant, Haley’s prominence continues to rise.
Prominence? They ain’t even started on her yet-the detractors.Her PRO illegal immigration/Amnesty stance endears her to the Democrats and MSM and they will leave her alone as long as she does their bidding.
If the Republicans were STUPID enough to put her on the ticket as VP the Democrats and MSM would destroy her.My guess is besides exposing her failed record as governor of SC her finances and the numerous alleged affairs would be exposed/rehashed.
It would be fun to see Will on Meet THe Press. :)
When detractors do start, her popularity will rise even more. When accusations of infidelity were made against her in 2010, her popularity rose. When Confederate flag supporters accused her of betrayal, her popularity rose. Haley is making all the right enemies to propel her to the top of the national scene.
Not a chance.This election is about immigration and she stands with the Democrats on Amnesty.
Meet the latest pathetic attempt at Disqus respectability by flip.
You are just mad at flip because he caught you in a lie on another thread.
No matter how fast (really half-fast) you change your screen name and avatar, you are still the same miserable “flip”.
tommy boy ya got to be smarter when you post lies and fiction.I am the TRUTH DETECTOR!
And a few others.
Haley’s approval rating and Trump’s position in the Republican race are two different things. Also, it looks like PPP’s 81% is from an across the country sampling of likely Republican voters, not South Carolina voters and that polling was done on December 7. I’d bet the house it has dropped significantly since Tuesday night. Her media coverage has been favorable nationally up to this point and the conservative base has not been keen to her establishment leanings. It was crystal clear where Haley got her script from and it’s the same reason she was selected to give the “rebuttal”. Limbaugh was accurate in what her words mean ultimately and how it was carefully crafted to tamp down non-establishment momentum.
Don’t you know that this is classic BT. He routinely twist facts and numbers to suit his warped point of view. BT is no better than Flip/Pogo/Lone Ranger/ Grand Tango, etc.
The proof is the lack of response to your reply after you bitch slapped him.
I’VE always said, Oh-lie-y and Obummer are conjoined twins separated at birth.
Feckless, all about them, narcissist, pathological liars who care more about Foreigners and Foreign Countries than South Carolina and the United States.
I should have listened.
Jesus we are still being reconstructed. Tim Scott, the flag, now this sotu response. #deportindiancuckswhohavenothingtodowiththeculturepfthisstate
Looks like the GOP is in full-tilt civil war. The establishment is in a firing circle accusing each other of not being ideologically pure. The folks they tried to bring in to “big tent” the party are throwing stones and trying to topple the establishment. And the extremist/nationalist fringe are loud and trying to drive the agenda. It’s about time to stick a fork in this puppy and call it done.
Will Hillary be out on bail election night?
It doesn’t matter. If the different factions of the GOP are fighting with themselves, you could run a Donald Trump against them and win. Oh, wait…
The GOP divide is growing ever so wider. Fox News and the like have lost control of the beast the Koch brothers created. Moderates will not vote Republican for years to come.
C’mon, who WANTS Donald Trump to join their club?
The Trump constituency rallies to him as a potential leader of the justified conservatives whom have been runover roughshod. The like him for his blunt honesty and perceived backbone of rebar. It takes a leader with these ingredients and good old fashioned balls to go up against the establishment!
Or declare bankruptcy repeatedly and get tge establishment tonbail him out.
Haley is the national laughing bozo. What shame she brings on SC. Guess she is afraid that if Trump is elected, that she to will end up in prison for all her illegal and criminal acts. That’s got to be it … that’s got to be the REAL REASON the dogs of war came out all at once to attack Trump. They in DC are all afraid of PRISON.
Mark Levin has slammed Haley … .Sean Hannity has slammed Haley ….. Michael Savage has slammed Haley … Alex Jones has slammed Haley … Breitbart has slammed Haley … Daily Caller has slammed Haley … The entire nation sees Haley for what she really is: A stupid stuck up pretentious nothing who is just as criminally insane as Obama.
Once again the idiot votetards in this state support Haley all the way to her bank. Her loyal Facebook Cult following is beyond sickening its just fucking stupid. She is done as far as politics and VP talk the minute she went after Trump.
Once again the idiot votetards in this state support Trump all the way to his bank. His loyal Facebook Cult following is beyond sickening its just fucking stupid. He is done as far as politics the minute he went after Haley.
She how silly you sound from a different perspective. Your statements are worthless as empty air.
What do you expect from that rag head cunt?
Rush has more common sense with half his brain tied behind his back than anyone at ABC, NBC, CBS, FOX, etc. and about all politicians.
As usual, reality is in exact opposition to Rush. Check out the stats on 538.com about Trumps favorability compared to the other candidates. Independents and Democrats HATE him and he has LESS crossover appeal than freaking Bush. The GOP establishment hates Trump because he is a sure fire loser in November, and they want to win.
This just enforces my belief that both the Rep and Dem parties would rather lose the election (any election form that matter) rather than give it up to someone who doesn’t want donor money. They will make no money with Trump. That’s the only thing this is about. Money. Not ideology or the rest of the nonsense these pundants are saying.