Pay Up, Fatties!

OBAMACARE ARCHITECT WANTS “FAT TAX” || By FITSNEWS || Need some additional motivation to get yourself to the gym?  Or watch those calories?  U.S. president Barack Obama‘s socialized medicine architect – the one who called you “stupid” – has got you covered. In April 2010, Gruber – having just helped…


|| By FITSNEWS || Need some additional motivation to get yourself to the gym?  Or watch those calories?  U.S. president Barack Obama‘s socialized medicine architect – the one who called you “stupid” – has got you covered.

In April 2010, Gruber – having just helped pass Obama’s socialized medicine monstrosity – wrote a paper urging that Americans be taxed according to their body weight.  Gruber’s treatise – entitled “Taxing Sin To Modify Behavior and Raise Revenue” – included a recommendation to impose the “weighty” new levies.

“What may be needed to address the obesity problem are direct taxes on body weight,” he wrote.

Wow …

Wait … wasn’t the whole idea behind Obamacare to get young, healthy people to pay for sick, old people (which isn’t happening)?  Not get fatties to pay more?

Anyway, it turns out Obamacare is indirectly taxing obese people by allowing employers to charge them higher health insurance premiums.  Prior to the passage of the law, employers could impose a 20 percent premium on employees who failed to attain a healthy BMI (body mass index).  As of last year, that premium hiked to 30 percent – with future increases likely.

Two years ago, S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley declared a “war on fat” in the Palmetto State – which suffers from disproportionately high levels of obesity.

What did that war consist of?  Nothing … which is fine with us.

Markets, not government mandates are what’s needed to restore sanity to the health care debate in America …


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Blissful Ignorance February 11, 2015 at 11:35 am

This is just awful, awful! Next thing you know they’ll be charging extra for smokers! I bet they’ll even justify it by saying smokers are more likely to have health problems or some other bullshit like that! Everyone else needs to pay for my bad choices in life!

Stupid science and its stupid little facts!

Krazy Kat February 11, 2015 at 12:01 pm

State employees now pay a $30 smoking surcharge every pay period–$60/month

Fecal Matters February 11, 2015 at 12:18 pm

As they should.

grandtangosuglydog February 11, 2015 at 1:12 pm

should be more.

CharlieChan February 11, 2015 at 11:38 am

This is about the market, not about taxes. Insurance premies are higher for smokers already. The thinking is, they are a bigger draw on the insurance money and so they should be higher contributors. The obesity premiums are the exact same thing, not a tax.

I think idiot bloggers who post things that get people un-neccesarily “riled up” should pay a higher insurance premium for contributing the overall stress level of society.

a benefit of gay marriage February 11, 2015 at 11:54 am

Origin of HIV & AIDS | AVERT
Where did AIDS come from and how was HIV spread? … A number of gay men in New York and California suddenly began to develop rare … (and indeed some remain so today), there is now clear evidence to prove that HIV causes AIDS.

gay men have a higher risk of contracting AIDS. Why don’t they pay more for health insurance?

GrandTango February 11, 2015 at 12:14 pm

Checks out, I got @^%!&^ *#@%&!*& HIV from Flip.

CharlieChan February 11, 2015 at 12:55 pm

You can’t catch fat.

how so? February 11, 2015 at 1:02 pm

what do you mean, it’s harder to miss fat people

Nope February 11, 2015 at 4:00 pm

No, he means that if you are chasing one on it’s way to a buffet table, you’ll never catch it.

it all adds up February 11, 2015 at 3:29 pm

Safe sex = 99% no HIV. Pretty darn preventable
Watch food intake, exercise = no obesity. Pretty darn preventable

Rakkasan February 11, 2015 at 5:36 pm

You CAN catch stupid, at least have it piled higher and deeper (MS and Ph.D.)

9" February 11, 2015 at 7:40 pm

Black women make up 64% of new AIDS cases in SC.

Cognitive Dissonance 101 February 11, 2015 at 2:35 pm

The Liberal mindset:

Private Business discriminating against Fatso’s= “Shame on those bad, evil corporations!”

Government discriminating against Fatso’s= “Those fat fuckers deserve it!”

chuckle, guffaw February 11, 2015 at 3:32 pm

In a nut shell. It’s laughable.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt February 11, 2015 at 5:50 pm

Aye there’s the rub. It’s discrimination depending on who it suits. Government discriminating against gay couples = because it’s an abomination.
A cake baker discriminating against gays = he’s an American hero.

Cognitive Dissonance 101 February 11, 2015 at 7:36 pm

“It’s discrimination depending on who it suits.”

I see it a bit differently. Everyone knows it’s discrimination in my mind, they just disagree on who should be able to do it and under what circumstances.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt February 11, 2015 at 7:45 pm

The free market approach would say that insurers (not gov’t…despite whatever equal protections may apply) should be allowed to charge fatties more to cover the cost of their care instead of healthy people subsidizing it. The problem with that approach is that given enough time, the free market would effectively price out fatties from coverage and would fall back onto the gov’t to pay for their care.
In the context of a fat tax I speak of, we are not taxing the fatties themselves but rather the foods they eat. It’s a bit of a complex formula on how to tax individual food items but the basic gist of it is that the more % of fat per serving a food contains, the higher the tax. So that way there is no discrimination.

Cognitive Dissonance 101 February 11, 2015 at 9:44 pm

“The problem with that approach is that given enough time, the free
market would effectively price out fatties from coverage and would fall
back onto the gov’t to pay for their care.”

This post seems to contradict your other one:

“It’s a conservative, free market approach and I don’t see why Fits won’t get behind it.”

So is Obamacare free market or not?

Limbaughsaphatkhunt February 11, 2015 at 9:49 pm

Fair question.

I DO NOT endorse a discriminatory levy on fat people vis a vis the insurance industry.

I DO endorse a tax on the fat % in food items.

Cognitive Dissonance 101 February 11, 2015 at 9:59 pm

“Fair question.”

I’m glad you thought so. You didn’t answer it though, is the ACA free market?

Limbaughsaphatkhunt February 11, 2015 at 10:21 pm

Let me state for the record I am not a fan of ACA. It was dreamed up in GOP think tanks after all, well before Obama ever got hold of it.
The ACA’s glaring problem is that it relies on private enterprise to conduct a public function, so in that respect it’s not free market but it’s not fully gubmint either as the idea behind it was to get enough people in it to share the expenses and drive down costs (a free market concept).

I would have much preferred to see a single payer option similar to the UK’s NHS or Australia’s Medicare…where the privatization of health care occurs in a limited capacity. Sure the Dems would have been relegated to the dust bin of political power for a bit, but once people saw the benefits of universal coverage and the near elimination of greed through the private insurance sector…it would have caught on and eventually they would have returned to power. However, they pussed out and passed this frankenstein law…which is still better than the GOP’s just hurry up and die policy.

SomalianRoadCorp February 12, 2015 at 9:35 pm

Premiums should be higher for gays as well.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt February 12, 2015 at 10:36 pm

Why is that?

SomalianRoadCorp February 13, 2015 at 12:55 pm

If we are discussing behavior that is higher risk for diseases, it certainly is right there with obesity.

Rin February 13, 2015 at 6:32 pm

Cause they caused aids or something. What are you talking about? Wouldn’t everybody be at equal risk? I would think sexual active heterosexual couples would have more issues because of the nature of intercourse. Time to do some research on the subject.

iquanyin July 22, 2015 at 10:37 pm

premiums should die, as should the whole stupid abstraction called money. barter has naturl limits on greed. money? nope. (not that I read the actual thread, mind you. I come here rarely….till now. suddenly, channels! just exploring…)

Limbaughsaphatkhunt February 11, 2015 at 5:48 pm

Well said, when you actually study how a fat tax would work it makes sense. It’s a conservative, free market approach and I don’t see why Fits won’t get behind it. Just like alcohol and tobacco, the tax would still allow you to be as fat as you want and eat what you want…you just have to pay more for the privilege.
Why should free market consumers be forced to pay more in premiums to cover people who don’t give a shit and drain health care dollars?

Rin February 13, 2015 at 6:48 pm

The Governor of SC us a psychopath though. This article just made me more made at the women. “War of Fat” after she cuts peoples food stamps because they are “LAZY” and “FAT” so you don’t deserve food stamps. If you need food stamps and you are working the allotted amount(at least for me) I am told I need to work more and go to a work program, when I already work more than 40 hours a week making a measly 7.85 an hour, no overtime pay.

Tazmaniac February 11, 2015 at 11:55 am

Ookie Dookie, seems reasonable to me, but when then mention of people on the Government’s dime is brought up the Left goes off the rails. I know, I know the stereo type is ALL Conservatives and libertarians are doughy, flabby, rich, white, people so this is why this is pushed.

yep February 11, 2015 at 12:03 pm

I agree.Don’t dare try and take chips and cookies out of that cart that is being paid for with an EBT Card (food stamps).

Be called a racist if they can’t buy those Sugar Smacks or Fruit Loops.

RogueElephant February 11, 2015 at 1:03 pm

Drug testing for any form of welfare is a good idea as well. I was subject to random drug testing all my employed life. Why should it not be required for those we the taxpayers are supporting ? I guess that makes me a racist white pig. Oink Oink LOL

Taxpayer Funded Addicts February 11, 2015 at 1:05 pm

Didn’t Florida spend more on testing welfare recipients than it saved cutting drug users off of welfare programs? If you want to catch drug users then test the politicians.

The children February 11, 2015 at 1:17 pm

We need to drug test those on Medicare.

elderly assholes February 11, 2015 at 1:20 pm

yeah, those guys get the good shit

William February 11, 2015 at 4:58 pm

How about drug testing for anyone who gets a check from the Government, Federal or State. That sounds fair to me. Politicians, Staff, government employees, social security recipients, SSI recipients, members of the military, etc. etc.

Rakkasan February 11, 2015 at 5:49 pm

Because we only want a reasonable standard of substance for “deserving” people and you get to decide who is deserving? I’ll go along with this–as long as you apply the same standard to anyone receiving or connected to gov’t support–to include farmers, people on disability, the elderly, people on Medicaid, which is 90% people with children in household and the elderly, etc. Want to keep going? Good. Multiple studies have shown that the cost of testing the benefit recipients FAR outweighs any real or potential benefit to the taxpayer. So, crusade on, hero

Rakkasan February 11, 2015 at 5:42 pm

That’s cause doughy, flabby, rich, white are the majority of the people on the gov’t dime.

GrandTango February 11, 2015 at 12:21 pm

Finally something that will get FITS drunk and Fat@$$ followers to turn on Obamacare…

Of course if you get Medicaid, Medicare, Welfare, Section 8 housing, Food Stamps, Obama-phone and Gore-Internet….

Do they really CARE…???

People So Stupid February 11, 2015 at 12:36 pm

From reading the comments, a lot of them will praise Obolacare even as they are being marched into the euthanasia wards for “the good of society”.

Death Panel February 11, 2015 at 12:42 pm

404 Twilight Zone Not Found

grandtangosuglydog February 11, 2015 at 1:11 pm

Statements so stupid.

Paranoid Delusions February 11, 2015 at 1:19 pm

You really have to stand back and laugh at this kind of crap. Used to be these guys would be limited to shouting at cars with a sign saying the end is near, but now thanks to the power of the internet you can get your daily dose of retard conspiracy in the comfort of your own home.

GrandTango February 11, 2015 at 2:08 pm

Sadly you are correct. They are the most Lemming in history…

Rakkasan February 11, 2015 at 5:55 pm

Are you the president of the Palin for President fan club? Believe me, your insurance company is and has been marching you off in to the last year of your life for a lot longer than your insurance (under ACA or Romneycare) ) has been around–and are much more skilled.. You probably think they are your friend

Taxpayer February 11, 2015 at 1:19 pm

You are fat and on Medicare. Why do you hate yourself so much? I don’t mind my tax dollars helping you out.

GrandTango February 11, 2015 at 2:06 pm

I know you are….but what are you…Dumb@$$…

Taxpayer February 11, 2015 at 3:51 pm

You get gov’t assistance for your healthcare, right? You’re welcome, Fucking idiot.

GrandTango February 11, 2015 at 3:54 pm

Liberal myth much?

Taxpayer February 11, 2015 at 5:59 pm

It’s true. We all know it. You’re welcome.

Rakkasan February 11, 2015 at 5:58 pm

Yes I do. It’s called Tricare. Fucking POS

Taxpayer February 11, 2015 at 5:59 pm

Was not typing to you, but you’re welcome none the less.

Rakkasan February 12, 2015 at 7:59 am

I really do appreciate your supporting me with healthcare, a pension, disability. But really, if it’s that much of a problem for you, I will refund your contribution. Here’s your $1 back

Taxpayer February 12, 2015 at 11:30 am

You keep it, buddy. Glad to help.

Taxpayer February 11, 2015 at 6:01 pm

Rakkasan? Is that you Flip or another GT handle? lol ;-)

Rakkasan February 11, 2015 at 5:57 pm

Good comeback Pee Wee

grandtangosuglydog February 11, 2015 at 12:22 pm

Hey good to see Grandasshatliarcoward finally gets his pic on this site.

Smirks February 11, 2015 at 12:44 pm

I love you!

george February 11, 2015 at 12:24 pm

Does this mean that people who intentionally engage in high risk, self-destructive practices such as promiscuity and alcohol/ tobacco use deserve to pay a higher tax? How many billions are spent on HIV research? Time to pay up!

Skin McSkinnerson February 11, 2015 at 12:27 pm

Ugh, fat people. How disgusting.

You Know My Name February 11, 2015 at 12:30 pm

Great! Extra charges will surely be on the way soon for those with a genetic predisposition toward having high blood pressure, diabetes, cancer, vision problems, and orther health issues. In some cases, thiz may indict you because of your racial heritage/background. That’s okay though. Nanny government knows what is best for you and your peers in society.

… and the sheep all went “baaaa”…

Fat defenders February 11, 2015 at 12:56 pm

Maybe I would feel bad if it was a risk tied to something they couldn’t change, but I think not making a fourth trip to the buffet line is pretty easy to fix.

Go Home Fatty February 11, 2015 at 3:49 pm

Fat people should be banned from restaurants offering buffets.

Rakkasan February 11, 2015 at 5:41 pm

Your name is Logical Error. “Slippery Slope”(not and Asian slur) fallacy fell out of fashion a while back. Well, I guess maybe not so much on positions based in fear, paranoia, and a sense of persecution

Brain Farts February 11, 2015 at 1:01 pm

Anyone else catch that Obama is indirectly taxing people by letting their employers charge fat people a little more than they could before? Optional charges that your employer decides whether or not to charge you that doesn’t go into the government coffers are taxes now, hurray!

If government stepped out of the way completely it would allow employers to charge fat employees whatever they want, not just 30 percent.

American People February 11, 2015 at 1:16 pm

I can see why this proposal would frightening to South Carolinians. Can you guys at least try to be less of a burden on the rest of us?

Dead Weight February 11, 2015 at 1:22 pm

Someone has to be the dumbest state in the union, might as well take volunteers.

American People February 11, 2015 at 2:52 pm

SC is a magnet for stupidity. Can we ship our less motivated morons to you guys?

9" February 11, 2015 at 7:31 pm

I love a man with a big butt,and can take it deep.Am I gonna have to go back to fucking cows?

idiotwind February 12, 2015 at 10:14 am

odd bit of pandering by Fits. he figures most of his readership are wearing mu-mus and will side with him, but remember, evil doesn’t know its evil, rich people think they are middle class, and fat people probably don’t consider themselves fat.

Rin February 13, 2015 at 6:43 pm

I have Hypothyroidism. I do not have the option of any form of health care(SC has no Medicaid). My food stamps is unreliable, and I am constantly forced to ingest only my work food(which isn’t too bad, but it isn’t great. The only vegetables are lettuce, onions, tomatoes, and pickles). The only healthy item would be the low carb platter with grilled chicken. How am I suppose to have a proper diet, and loose weight when I can’t even eat food regularly? I can only afford one half priced meal at work a day when I have no food stamps that I put on my time card. If I do not eat at work I will not get through my double shifts. I constantly have low blood sugar, and wish I could get medication to balance my weight and stabilize my thyroid. Unfortunately, I cannot. I am not huge and need a handicap chair in Walmart, but I am not my ideal weight. I am way over my healthy weight of 180. I have a higher muscle mass than most women due to my body type.


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