National Politics - 2016

Nobody Hearts Mike Huckabee Anymore …

NOT EVEN IN BIBLE THUMPING SOUTH CAROLINA … Of the 2016 presidential campaigns we don’t “get” (i.e. understand), former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee‘s is at the top of the list.  Obviously we’re not fans of Huckabee, but we remain baffled as to his anemic showing in the 2016 presidential race…

NOT EVEN IN BIBLE THUMPING SOUTH CAROLINA …

Of the 2016 presidential campaigns we don’t “get” (i.e. understand), former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee‘s is at the top of the list.  Obviously we’re not fans of Huckabee, but we remain baffled as to his anemic showing in the 2016 presidential race – especially in early voting South Carolina where social conservatives dominate the GOP electorate.

Huckabee nearly won South Carolina in 2008, and as recently as February of this year he was polling in double digits in the Palmetto State according to aggregate data from Real Clear Politics.

Today?  Huckabee is supported by just 1.8 percent of South Carolinians …

That baffles us … not just because of Huckabee’s strong initial positioning, but because of the extent to which the 2016 “issues matrix” has played to his strong suits (and away from his weaknesses).

Seriously: The Planned Parenthood fetal body parts scam should have been a boon for Huckabee’s candidacy.  Especially in South Carolina.  Yet social conservatives here – and elsewhere – appear to be gravitating toward the campaign of U.S. Senator Ted Cruz instead.

And while Huckabee is not the most disappointing candidate of 2016 (that “honor” goes to U.S. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky), his failure to launch nonetheless remains the most inexplicable.

After all, Paul’s unraveling can be fairly easily traced back to his embrace of the “Republican” establishment at a time when the GOP electorate was rebuking establishment politicians.

Huckabee’s unspooling?  It’s not so easily “pinpointable.”

Anyway, in an effort to revive his Palmetto State fortunes Huckabee is dispatching his wife – Janet Huckabee – to South Carolina this week.

Courtesy of the Huckabee campaign, here’s a list of her stops …

Thursday, December 17, 2015

Time: 6:30 p.m.
Event: Lexington County Meet and Greet
Location: Lizard’s Thicket Restaurant
Address: 4616 Augusta Road, Lexington, SC 29073 

Friday, December 18, 2015

Time: 8:30 a.m.
Event: Women’s Round Table with Janet Huckabee
Location: What’s Cookin’ Downtown
Address: 123 Laurens Street NW #B, Aiken, SC 29801 

Time: 11:30 a.m.
Event: Laurens County Meet and Greet
Location: Carter Jewelers
Address: 810 East Main Street, Suite F, Laurens, SC 29360 

Time: 12:45 p.m.
Event: Get the Scoop with Janet Huckabee
Location: Yo Cup
Address: 128 South Public Square, Laurens, SC 29360 

Time: 3:00 p.m.
Event: Pastries and Politics with Janet Huckabee
Location: Exchange Company Coffee Bar and Bake Shop
Address: 110 South Main Street, Simpsonville, SC 29681 

Frankly, Huckabee’s campaign needs to pack it up.  Same goes for Paul, Ohio governor John Kasich, New Jersey governor Chris Christie, U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, former New York governor George Pataki and former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.

At this point, each of those candidates is doing little more than embarrassing themselves …

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43 comments

UGAalumni December 15, 2015 at 11:27 am

I would blame it on the Kim Davis episode. Parading that loon out in public like that and sharing a stage with her was political suicide. Republicans need to focus more on fiscal conservatism rather than social conservatism.

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Hispan Sllutzze December 15, 2015 at 11:37 am

It is possible to focus on BOTH however I agree you can’t legislate morality.
IF the Republicans take the Trump message of securing the borders,NO Amnesty and taking a tough stance on immigration they WIN.

Trump has been able to tie the concerns of illegal immigration/Amnesty to jobs,crime and foreign policy.Democrats need a new voter base as middle America has rejected them and Amnesty for illegals after flooding our borders is how they hope to get there.

Rubio needs to heed Trumps message if he has ANY hope.

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vicupstate December 15, 2015 at 1:27 pm

Rubio is pro-amnesty, so he would have to do a 180 to heed Trump’s message.

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Hispan Sllutzze December 15, 2015 at 1:33 pm

Sorry vic-not anymore:Secure the Border First

First, those here illegally must come forward and be registered. If they have committed serious crimes or have not been here long enough, they will have to leave. With the new E-Verify system in place, they are going to find it difficult to find a job in any case.

Second, those who qualify would be allowed to apply for a temporary nonimmigrant visa. To obtain it they will have to pay an application fee and a fine, undergo a background check and learn English. Once they receive this work permit, they would be allowed to work legally and travel. To keep it, they will have to pay taxes. They would not qualify for government programs like Obamacare, welfare or food stamps. And if they commit a crime while in this status, they would lose their permit.

Third and finally, those who qualify for a nonimmigrant visa will have to remain in this status for at least a decade. After that, they would be allowed to apply for permanent residency if they so choose. Many who qualify for this status will choose to remain in it indefinitely. But those who choose to seek permanent residency would have to do it the way anyone else would, not through any special pathway.

https://marcorubio.com/issues-2/marco-rubio-immigration-plan-border-security-legal/

NO VOTING!!!NO WELFARE!!!! NO DEMOCRAT PARTY!!!! :)

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thinning the herd December 15, 2015 at 11:38 am

Yep. I think most people felt regardless of faith, she needed to do her job or quit. Especially when her outrageous salary (for poor Kentucky) was revealed.

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erneba December 15, 2015 at 11:40 am

Good point, social issues seem to be his focus. he may talk about other issues, national security, the economy, immigration, but it is just not registering. He has always been, even in past campaigns been a candidate that I never considered. Although he does seem like a nice guy.

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More Republican BS December 15, 2015 at 4:00 pm

What”fiscal conservatism?”

Besides a bunch of mouthing off about it for years,what “fiscally conservative” things have Republicans done?

Actually that phrase,”fiscal conservatism” is meaningless blather.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt December 16, 2015 at 12:05 am

Aye…but like Satan’s silky hand extended to tempt Limbaugh with a twinkie…so doth evangelical rubes get drawn to culture wars like a moth to flame.

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Jackie Chiles December 16, 2015 at 10:37 am

Unlikely. I think it’s more like he’s been doing nothing for like 10 years but running for president and being on Fox news.

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Hispan Sllutzze December 15, 2015 at 11:31 am

“Frankly, Huckabee’s campaign needs to pack it up. Same goes for Paul, Ohio governor John Kasich, New Jersey governor Chris Christie, U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, former New York governor George Pataki and former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania.”

Excellent read.Not sure any of them are ’embarrassing’ themselves EXCEPT Graham and Kasich HOWEVER after 7 years of the Muslim version of satan Obama and the destruction he has inflicted on this nations economy,foreign policy and social/cultural foundation- Biblical Christian/conservative Americans are gonna fly with ANYBODY that can win the White House and stop the bleeding.

They know Huckabee can’t get en there.

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thinning the herd December 15, 2015 at 11:31 am

If you’re going to knock off Christie and Kasich, you need to include Carly too. Her poll numbers average out to 2.3. Lower than Christie’s and the same as Kasich’s.

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Manray9 December 15, 2015 at 11:36 am

I wonder how long poseurs such as Huckabee, Santorum and a few others would continue to run if they couldn’t do it on other people’s money? Remind me again? Who are the “takers?”

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tomstickler December 15, 2015 at 11:41 am

“Seriously: The Planned Parenthood fetal body parts scam should have been a boon for Huckabee’s candidacy. Especially in South Carolina.”

Maybe South Carolinians are not as stupid as Huckabee thinks? Or, as stupid as FitsNews thinks?

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Hispan Sllutzze December 15, 2015 at 11:49 am

Hey tomstickler-how do you like your aborted babies-‘steam cooked’ like the agency PP in Ohio contracts with before they dump em in a local landfill OR ‘original and crispy’ like we saw in the PP videos?

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Rocky Verdad December 15, 2015 at 12:34 pm

What you wearing “Flip from Ohio” – kakis?

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Hispan Sllutzze December 15, 2015 at 12:38 pm

A 9mm glock

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Rocky Verdad December 15, 2015 at 12:56 pm

Well that’s a gross thought. But I guess at 9-mm it covers the stuff we don’t want to see.

mamatiger92 December 15, 2015 at 1:44 pm

I believe he’s threatening you. You should contact your attorney.

Rocky Verdad December 15, 2015 at 3:19 pm

I have the IP address.

Tazmaniac December 15, 2015 at 3:59 pm

Don’t worry, where he has it holstered doesn’t make for a quick draw.

Wheezl December 15, 2015 at 4:14 pm

The infamous, imaginary D. Fannin, Esq!….:)

Tazmaniac December 15, 2015 at 3:58 pm

I hope you realize his new name is aimed at you? We don’t agree on a lot of stuff but it shouldn’t get personal like that. For that POS to think he represents common sense Conservatism is repulsive.

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tomstickler December 15, 2015 at 1:26 pm

I thought I smelled a familiar odor behind that avatar.

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Hispan Sllutzze December 15, 2015 at 1:28 pm

No.Jesus just spoke to you.

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Double Down December 15, 2015 at 11:53 am

Chris Christie pack it up?
Hells bells, he is going to be the GOP nominee.

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Hispan Sllutzze December 15, 2015 at 12:04 pm

If only he wouldn’t have fallen in love with Mohammed’s (USA) prophet.That fling exposed him.:)

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thinning the herd December 15, 2015 at 12:15 pm

The only person who will be on the debate stage tonight with many strong ties to Muslims is Donald Trump. Imagine the mudslinging and outrage if any other candidate running for President had the extensive business ties that he does with Muslims and Muslim countries.

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Hispan Sllutzze December 15, 2015 at 12:33 pm

That appears to be a bigoted comment.Not all Muslims are terrorists and it would be unfair to link law abiding citizens of the ideology of Islam and Barack Hussein Obama whose policies created ISIS.

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soxinsc December 15, 2015 at 1:32 pm

Not all Muslims are terrorists? Somebody better tell Trump. He sure wants to treat them that way.

Hispan Sllutzze December 15, 2015 at 1:37 pm

How so? Like Jimmy Carter and the Iranians he banned?
How about that,Carter bans Iranians and Obama gives em nukes.

soxinsc December 15, 2015 at 1:43 pm

Guess what? Iran is a country that held our people hostage for nearly 15 months. Carter had clear justification.

When you can tell me what Muslims in Canada, the Phillipines, Indonesia (which has a larger population of Muslims than any other country), and our NATO ally Turkey have done to deserve being barred from the United States, get back to me. Until then, away with you and your fallacies.

sparklecity December 15, 2015 at 2:05 pm

Good points all………

sparklecity December 15, 2015 at 2:13 pm

Not to mention that approximately 10% of physicians in the US are Muslim……I heard Joe Scarborough mention that today on “Morning Joe” (in midst of my daily routine of eyeballing Mika…)
I’d venture to guess that’s probably behind Christian, Jewish, & Hindu
So more than likely a solid 4th place…………

Grand Perry for President December 15, 2015 at 12:36 pm

I disagree.

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The Colonel (R) December 15, 2015 at 11:55 am

Uhmmm, “It’s the economy Stoopid”, followed closely by how “jacked up” Washington is, immigration and terrorism. The “Huckster” hasn’t staked out any significant positions on any of those issues.

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Bible Thumper December 15, 2015 at 1:22 pm

Surprise! Surprise! FITS calls them Bible Thumpers and then is baffled about why he doesn’t understand them.

It is very difficult to get recent demographic data on Social Conservatives, because of a acedemic bias. Their biases lead them to identify uneducated people as social conservatives.

As an example of this bias, researchers might ask, “Should a mother stay home and raise the childen?” They then identify those answering yes as Social Conservatives instead of more obvious self-indentification or voting patterns. Many educated social conservatives don’t object to mother’s working or father’s raising children, but they are not classified as social conservatives. Also many Democratic, less educated working poor will answer “yes” and be identified as social conservatives.

The even more obvious bias of such a question on “mother’s staying home” is that women are more likely to be identified as not being socially conservative. In 2005, Pew Research, however found that 58% of social conservatives were women. Pew Research also found that a higher percentage of social conservatives had some college education than the general population.

Another way to miss identity social conservatives is by church attendance. In 2005, only 53% of social conservatives attended weekly religious services. More than the general population, but not the vast majority one would expect.

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Bible Thumper December 15, 2015 at 1:53 pm

Lacking any definitive data, I offer my own observations on Social Conservatives.

1. They tend to have middle class incomes or slightly above.
2. They are much more likely to vote.
3. They are more likely to have a college education, but less likely to have a postgraduate education.
4. They are more likely to be white and older.
5. There’re more women than men.
6. They are less likely to have an unfavorable opinion of immigrants whether legal or not.
7. They believe in a smaller role for government in spite of the liberal perception that they want government to dictate the private lives of people with religion in schools or pro-life views.
8. Just like they distrust populist pandering to the poor, they also distrust pandering to the struggling middle class with promises to protect their jobs by government injecting itself into the economy or attacking the rich.
9. They are more likely to be concerned about militant secularism than domestic Muslims than the general population.

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erneba December 15, 2015 at 4:10 pm

I think your observations have a lot of merit.

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John December 15, 2015 at 5:27 pm

And that photo is the closest he will ever get to Air Force One in his life.

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nitrat December 15, 2015 at 5:34 pm

http://www.politico.com/story/2015/12/carly-fiorina-ben-carson-mike-huckabee-speaking-fees-216671

Huckabee was never a serious candidate, not even in his previous 2 runs. It was always about making money. And, it got preacher man a Florida mansion.
Add Santorum and Trump to those listed in the link above and you will have the GOP’s Professional Presidential Candidate cadre for 2016.
These are the people who run for president to publicize books and their availability for speeches right after they ‘suspend’ their campaigns. And, there are personal expenses that become campaign expenses when they’re running.
Alan Keyes got away with doing this for a few cycles. I guess Mike and Rick thought they could do it at least as many times.
You thought Hillary made the big bucks from the speechifying? Trump made ‘hundreds of thousands’ per, too.
Like the GOP consultants and the TEA Party super PACS that raise money and never spend it on anything but staff salaries, it’s just a racket.

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CorruptionInColumbia December 16, 2015 at 4:31 am

Let us not forget that Mikey has the blood of four Washington (state) police officers in his hands, as well as the sexual assault of a young girl for insisting on the early release of Maurice Clemmons. If that isn’t disgusting enough, Mikey’s campaign has also tried to blame his dismal record of releasing dangerous criminals in the past on prosecutors. Check out the article below.

http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2015/05/06/reminder-mike-huckabee-granted-clemency-to-a-criminal-who-murdered-four-police-officers-n1995062

Also note the blather released by his campaign near the top and noted elsewhere in the brief article where they tout his “strong support” of Law Enforcement. I thought it wasn’t “Christian” to lie.

The lame excuses Mikey and his crew give for him releasing dangerous criminals are almost laughable, if not for the dsngerous and deadly consequences to innocent citizens. Saying thst the prosecutors should have “done a better job” when pushing for early release in some cases and then signing to release them makes about as much sense as a prison guard going bonkers and turning prisoners loose on the streets, then blaming the makers of the locks because it wasn’t harder for him to turn the keys.

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CorruptionInColumbia December 16, 2015 at 4:55 am

How anyone could seriously consider the POS Huckabee for any office is beyond me. A more lengthy article details even more of Huckabee’s love of violent criminals and his apparent disdain for innocent citizens and their lives.

http://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/75362

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Paco Sanchez December 16, 2015 at 10:04 am

This is another example of FITS’ “pay for play.” The Cruz people hold Huckabee as their second choice, so it’s beneficial to denigrate Huckabee. The Cruz campaign is probably paying Will to badmouth Huckabee to that end. Much like Kirkman Finlay had Will on the payroll to promote him as a gubernatorial candidate in 2018.

Both campaigns overestimate FITS’ influence.

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