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Al Gore? Really?

FOR PRESIDENT? OF THE UNITED STATES? || By FITSNEWS || Former U.S. vice president Al Gore should be a discredited laughing stock.  His global warming myth is falling apart, not unlike his infamous claim to have invented the internet. But Gore – believe it or not – is being seriously…

FOR PRESIDENT? OF THE UNITED STATES?

|| By FITSNEWS || Former U.S. vice president Al Gore should be a discredited laughing stock.  His global warming myth is falling apart, not unlike his infamous claim to have invented the internet.

But Gore – believe it or not – is being seriously considered for the presidency.  And no, we’re not talking about the presidency of some uber-leftist environmental think tank, we’re talking about the presidency of the United States.

“The most ambitious vision for the Democratic Party right now rests with a politician most have forgotten, and whom no one is mentioning for 2016: Al Gore,” liberal columnist Ezra Klein wrote this week. “Gore offers a genuinely different view of what the Democratic Party — and, by extension, American politics — should be about.”

Ummmm … okay … and what should it be about?

According to Klein, Gore’s battle against “climate change” is a battle against an “existential threat” to humanity.  But Gore isn’t (or wouldn’t be) just a single-issue candidate, Klein says – because he also supports single-payer health care (a.k.a. Obamacare on steroids).

“You can believe Gore a visionary or you can believe him a blowhard, but he’s offering a very different, and much more radical, vision of what politics should be about than even Elizabeth Warren, to say nothing of Hillary Clinton,” Klein continues.

Yeah …

We’re not arguing with Klein that American needs a “more radical vision of what politics should be about.”  It just needs to be radical in the precise opposite direction Gore would take us.

Speaking earlier this week at the South by Southwest (SXSW) Festival in Austin, Texas, Gore ramped up his ridiculous – and dangerous – eco-radical rhetoric.

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In pushing for a massive energy tax hike (the same one embraced by liberal U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham back in 2009), Gore railed against “climate change deniers” – saying they should pay a price for rejecting “accepted science.”

“We need to put a price on carbon,” Gore said, invoking the preferred “progressive” nomenclature for raising taxes on energy.  “And in order to do that, we need to put a price on denial in politics.”

Wow …

What Gore is suggesting is nothing less than the criminalization of free thought: Silencing dissent through force.  Insisting America’s leaders either embrace his demonstrably false myth – or face the consequences.  That’s radical, alright … radically anti-American.

In fact it’s almost as radical Graham’s recent suggestion that he would use the U.S. military on members of Congress if they didn’t bend to his will.

Who knows … maybe these two loons need to run on a ticket? 

Oh, and before any Gore supporters presume this website is yet another faction of the “right wing conspiracy” led by the billionaire industrialist Koch brothers, check yourselves: We’ve bashed them, too.

Oddly enough, as much as we believe Gore to be certifiably insane (and “legit scary,” as the cool kids say) – we hope he does run.

How come?

Well, a Gore candidacy would bring the far left’s increasingly emboldened totalitarian impulses – eloquently addressed in this recent guest column by our friend Bill Wilson – out into the open for all to see.  That would force a long-overdue discussion about the real aims of all this radical “progressive” propaganda – taking more money out of your pockets and more liberty out of your life.

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85 comments

idcydm March 19, 2015 at 9:08 am

Get ready to invest in carbon credits, that is if there are any left scince Al has cornered the market.

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Antonio Scalia March 19, 2015 at 9:24 am

Yeah. If the voters’ will had been followed in 2000, the world would have ended by now. Thank God for activist judges

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Rocky March 19, 2015 at 9:36 am

Another great Reno 911 quote “everything was just fine until Al Gore filled the air up with all this CO2.”

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mamatiger92 March 19, 2015 at 10:08 am

I miss that show.

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Centrist View March 19, 2015 at 9:40 am

“…his infamous claim to have invented the internet.”

Urban legend. Never claimed to have “invented” the internet.

http://www.snopes.com/quotes/internet.asp

CNN interview that started this hoax.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BnFJ8cHAlco

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cuvinny March 19, 2015 at 10:33 am

Folks has never let facts get in his way to make some talking point

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The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 11:57 am

“..when as a House member in the early 1980s, I called for creation of a national network of “information superhighways,…” All Gore, forward to “The Internet Companion” by Tracy LaQuey, 1993.

ARPANET was transmitting packets of data in 1969.
TCP/IP was formalized in 1982
SMTP was standardized in 1983

Gore deserves some credit for S2594 Supercomputer Network Study Act of 1986 but he gets far more credit than he deserves. CompUServe was selling internet service as early as ’81-’82

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Runner Up March 19, 2015 at 9:41 am

If John McCain can lose to Bush in 2000 and run again, so can Al Gore.

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GrandTango March 19, 2015 at 9:48 am

Well…Hillary is your other choice….LMAO…
Sucks to be you….Hahahahaha….

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Jan March 19, 2015 at 10:25 am Reply
Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 9:48 am

As a climate scientiest, I violently disagree with the statement that “global warming has fell apart”. Globally, 2014 was the warmest in recorded history; winter 2015 has just been declared the warmest in history (front page of weather.com this morning). What is the argument: that the Northest has been cold the last two years?
I don’t see what the hell politics has to do with the Earth’s temperature.

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GrandTango March 19, 2015 at 9:48 am

Mythology Much????

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Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 9:53 am

The out-of-work Asshole Troll speaks.

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GrandTango March 19, 2015 at 9:58 am

When you represent yourself as an ignorant lemming…expect me to slap the S#!t out of you…Dumb@$$#$ like you have cost us trillions…
Advice: If you don’t want to look like an imbecile…keep your F*#king mouth shut…you lost idiot…

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Ignorant Lemmings March 19, 2015 at 9:59 am

Now that’s damn funny, you calling someone else an ignorant lemming. I love a troll with a sense of humor.

GrandTango March 19, 2015 at 10:41 am

“Someone else” besides YOU…LMAO…I get it…thanks for the admission, and the laugh…

Jack March 19, 2015 at 10:47 am

Don’t worry when they kick his ass off Medicaid he and his progeny will either die out improving the gene pool or he will have to work for a living. Either way he won’t be posting here 24 hours a day.

Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 10:07 am

What did I lose? You gave a juvenille emotional-based argument that was rejected. And I can curse like you too, you Cocks*cking
vu%va breadth unemployed piece of shit.

GrandTango March 19, 2015 at 10:40 am

Google: East Anglia Global warming data and Hoax, Fraud, lies…

You cannot be THAT F*#king Stupid…but we got Barack Obama in the White House TWICE…so I guess you can…LMAO…

Scorekeeper March 19, 2015 at 11:00 am

Sarah: 1
Lawrence T from Irmo: 0

GrandTango March 19, 2015 at 11:06 am

I know, Charlie Sheen……”Winning”….LMAO…

Buz Martin March 19, 2015 at 2:26 pm

AH! “Lawrence T”, and not “T Lawrence.”

Thank you.

mamatiger92 March 19, 2015 at 3:16 pm

She is killing this thread. Damn.

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 10:10 pm

Vulva breadth? That’s a scary thought.

Buz Martin March 20, 2015 at 8:09 pm

I think he probably has more like a cloaca breath. Meaning he eats chicken differently than the rest of us.

“He wears a disguise to look like human guys,
But he’s not a man, he’s a Chicken – Boo!”

just another guy March 19, 2015 at 10:13 am

Is that before or after they changed to data to make it warmer?

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Jack March 19, 2015 at 10:42 am

That story has been discredited over and over, but the Fake News Network, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh crowd can’t seem to get it. Facts Baaaaad, Fox Goooood.

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just another guy March 19, 2015 at 1:58 pm

I don’t watch fox news or any of that crap. My weather stuff, I go to Weatherbell, which in my opinion, are the best in the business at medium and long range forecasting, which is important in commodity trading. But you keep believing big guy what the government keeps shoving down your throat and I will keep making money off of people like you.

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Jack March 19, 2015 at 10:36 am

Republicans are paid to discredit scientist that do not agree with their mega-donors. Despite statements in this article, this site is paid money by Koch affiliated organizations and/or other groups with a vested interest in discrediting scientists who do not support the position of the carbon based energy industry.

Its like big tobacco in the middle of the last century. They paid to suppress information about the health problems with smoking and the addictive nature of nicotine. They paid politicians to block regulation and ridicule scientists who spoke out. .

Koch, Rich, etc. are doing the same thing now. Its a form of McCarthyism, which Republicans are so good at

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Nathan Arizona March 19, 2015 at 10:38 am

Politics has everything to do with denying facts. That’s the whole goddam raison d’etre of politics

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Jack March 19, 2015 at 10:40 am

Republicans believe facts cannot be trusted. They seem to be biased against Republicans.

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west_rhino March 19, 2015 at 11:22 am

we hear psychologists and English professors offering themselves as “climate scientists” endorse the Gore scam that is gaining an infamy as great as Ponzi if you will, but cherry picking data remains the flaw in the global warming geocentric universe.

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idcydm March 19, 2015 at 11:53 am

Figures don’t lie but liars figure, buyer beware.

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Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 12:04 pm

Dude, the raw data is there for all to analyze. No one changed this, nor will they. So go do your own analysis and report back to me. What you dicker with is how Phil Jones and company set a smoothing parameter in a non-parametric regression to hide periods of cooling. Unless you know a lot about mathematical stats, I don’t care to have this conversation with you.
And BTW, I am a math professor.

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idcydm March 19, 2015 at 12:06 pm

A math professor, that explains a lot.

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Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 1:06 pm

Sorry that you had trouble with math. The world is becoming increasingly quantative, which doesn’t bode well for you or your inane quips.

idcydm March 19, 2015 at 1:17 pm

I may be stupid in your eyes but it’s pretty simple for all to see, those that can do those that can’t teach.

Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 1:30 pm

You’re right…you’re stupid in my eyes

idcydm March 19, 2015 at 2:29 pm

Isn’t the internet great, you can think whatever you want and be whatever you want, even a math professor.

Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 3:00 pm

Tell ya what…..if you and Colonel think I’m pretending to hide behind the internet, lets put 1K on the issue of whether or not I’m a climate mathematician.

Tell me how you want to proceed. Time to put up or shut up. As I recall, I was insulted here first…”Im stupid and naive”.

idcydm March 19, 2015 at 3:07 pm

Look at this Sarah is conversing with someone she thinks is stupid. What does that make you Sarah and who are you trying to convince, other than yourself, that you are the smartest one on the thread?

If you can’t take the heat get out of the kitchen, this is just a stupid internet blog.

Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 3:52 pm

You two are a bunch of posers, bullying others on minimal information. Shame on you. You get the Grand Tango award of the day.

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 3:54 pm

when you run out of argument, revert to martyrdom…

idcydm March 19, 2015 at 3:56 pm

Shame on you!!!!

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 4:00 pm

For what, not capitalizing the W?

idcydm March 19, 2015 at 4:03 pm

That works.

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 4:04 pm

I like playing golf in the rain I can hit three or four balls and nobody pushes me…

idcydm March 19, 2015 at 4:15 pm

I remember when I use to play in the rain but that was before I retired. Now I’m just trying to get as much in as I can before it gets too cold (the 70’s ice age) or too hot (Global Warming) or the dinosaurs return.

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 4:19 pm

They’ve already returned to the course I play down at the beach…

idcydm March 19, 2015 at 4:27 pm

Come to think of it I’ve seen a few out there myself.

Have a good day COL, time to leave the net, out.

Tremors March 19, 2015 at 4:53 pm

Remember this movie? The scene where Kevin Gross killed one of the worms in the basement after shooting it with an elephant gun about 200 times comes to mind. He shouted “broke into the wrong damed rec room”. Seems that is what has happend to you two.

The Colonel get pwned. Sara, don’t be distant now.

idcydm March 19, 2015 at 3:55 pm

ROFLMAO

Let me explain something to you teach, it’s raining and I can’t play golf today so I’m just having some fun.

Oh, shame, shame on me :)

Buz Martin March 19, 2015 at 6:02 pm

SF, I generally agree with you in this debate, but if these two are posers, both together don’t add up a bunch. This from someone with severe dyscalculia, btw. Satisfied my math requirements at USC by taking logic courses. So maybe this reply is more about simple logic (and nomenclature for groups of things) than standard math.

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 3:45 pm

I don’t think you’re hiding behind the Internet – I just think you’re wrong.

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 11:42 am

“I don’t see what the hell politics has to do with the Earth’s temperature.”

Then you’re both naive and stupid.

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Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 11:59 am

I eagerly await your explaination of how political factors should be entered into climate analyses. For a smart person, you really say some whoppers.
Last time I spoke with you, you gave me a graph of Vostock temp and
CO_2. You noted that both components followed each other, but that in the past they righted back to average levels. Then you made the conclusion this would happen again. The obvious error of inference is that man is driving CO_2 levels up now. I think you need a stats class or two.

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The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 12:03 pm

What drove the CO2 spikes the previous five times?

As for why politics factor into climate change, the question isn’t why should they be considered, it’s what do politicians have to gain by playing politics with the issue.

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Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 1:04 pm

So now that man is forcing CO_2 ever higher, you expect natural forcings to kick in and rectify things? Yeah, right.

And you also made a causation claim that politics influences the temperature of the earth. Read what you wrote.

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 1:19 pm

You really are a literalist aren’t you? Politics has influenced the interpretation of data since the very beginning of time on a myriad of subjects.

ALGore’s vitriolic spewing of nonsense and hot air has probably been responsible for at least a degree or two of the perceived warming. We know for certain that he is hypocritical on the issue, flying hither, thither and yon on carbon spewing private aircraft and traveling in convoys of environmentally unfriendly Suburbans. Since you’re big on edumicashun, what training or education does Gore have in this area?

For the record, the climate is changing but you didn’t cause it and you can’t stop it. If by some odd circumstances we could, the dinosaurs would probably be roaming the earth within 100 years…

Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 1:39 pm

Tell ya what Colonel, I didn’t see you at Climate Science Day on Capitol Hill last month. To remedy this omission, I will let you represent SC for me next year. There, you can espose how much Al Gore and politics influences mathematical models and analysis of temperature data. Would at least be entertaining, no?
Your last paragraph is super amusing. Often you make good points on this board, but dinosaurs in 100 years? Nice atavisim. Phrased another way, I will continue to call you out on your bad science.

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 1:46 pm

Good googly moogily, you’re actually representing our state on something?

My dinosaur point is satirical doofus.

Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 2:51 pm

The way I see it, every point you’ve made on this thread is satirical.

The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 2:56 pm

If I’m not laughing, I’m crying…

Still doesn’t change the fact that the world has been both far warmer and far cooler than it is now.

Sarah Failin March 19, 2015 at 3:55 pm

Milkanovich cycles. Look it up. We are supposed to be cooling now.

Buz Martin March 19, 2015 at 2:22 pm

Colonel, I can’t stand Al Gore, and agree that he has ridden this point like Sarah Palin road the choad of that one Basketball star of color when she was a sports announcer. Gratuitous all-purpose race/politics trolling comment aside, the issue is much bigger than Gore, and far more important. Whether some data was fudged or not, whether the “global cooling” thing was bullshit or not, IF humans are fouling our nest on this earth with carbon emissions — which I believe to be the case — we need to stop.

All the money poured into the political campaigns of the goobers in Congress who put down the scientists about all this is very much like the money some of the same ones got for supporting Big Tobacco. Do people not die of lung cancer? They certainly do. Is the earth perhaps a good bit closer to death as a habitable place for human being because of excessive carbon emissions? In my opinion, it certainly is.

You and “Sarah Failin'” appear to be quite intelligent. But the insults are anything but. This is why common ground is so rarely found on an issue like this.

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The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 2:46 pm

I’m sure he, she, it is smart. I just can’t abide the party line talking points when many of them are easily refutable or the dogmatic refusal to accept that “settled science” has been wrong so many times that it isn’t funny.

My degree is in Marine Science. Much of what I learned 30 years ago has been refuted, modified, abridged, recanted, caveated or discarded. Most of the oceans remain unexplored. No marine scientist worth his salt would make the assertions about ocean systems that so called climate scientist make – there is simply still to much unknown or not understood.

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ManBearPig March 19, 2015 at 12:02 pm

What ever happened to the global cooling boogieman from the 1970s?

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The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 4:31 pm

He became a global warming alarmist: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/J._Murray_Mitchell

The truest things ever said by this climate change fear monger:
“man has been playing a very poor second fiddle to nature as a dust factory”
Humans were “an innocent bystander” in recent cooling
Climate cycles are an “enigma”

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Mike at the Beach March 19, 2015 at 10:02 pm

I would like to confess that I was responsible for the Huronian Ice Age. I apologize for that: I won’t do it again.

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Centrist Viwe March 19, 2015 at 9:57 am

Al would certainly have come colorful pressers.

Al Gore Meltdown at the Aspen Institute – Profanity laced rant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SfWdDP5v_A

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idcydm March 19, 2015 at 10:51 am

What, no comment from cuvinny.

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SCBlueWoman March 19, 2015 at 10:04 am

Gore would be an excellent President. I’d vote for him over Hillary. He’s won it once, he can do it again.

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ManBearPig March 19, 2015 at 10:14 am

Are you cereal?

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just another guy March 19, 2015 at 1:59 pm

I laughed.

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Dan Ruck March 19, 2015 at 10:15 am

Al Gore did not claim to invent the Internet. That’s a lie.

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ManBearPig March 19, 2015 at 12:06 pm

During my service in the United States Congress, I took the initiative in creating the Internet.

~Al Gore (March 8, 1999 interview with Wolf Blitzer)

in·vent (in?vent/)
verb
create or design (something that has not existed before); be the originator of.

Um, yeah he actually did say he invented it.

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President Rick Perry March 19, 2015 at 10:59 am

This is not good for my campaign. I will have to suspend operations and actively support my pal Al for president…again. Just don’t tell the dolts I fooled to vote for me that behind these fake glasses lives a dyed in the wool Democrat.

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idcydm March 19, 2015 at 12:04 pm

Come on folks, everyone knows it’s settled science and once science make a deceleration it never changes.

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The Colonel March 19, 2015 at 12:11 pm

“What, you mean the universe isn’t static”
A. Einstein on arrival at the pearly gates…

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fixthis March 19, 2015 at 1:27 pm

When Gore renounces his yachts, gives up his gas guzzling ozone layer – depleting jets, and shuts down the mine he inherited on the Silver River, then I may consider taking him seriously…or maybe not…

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Buz Martin March 19, 2015 at 2:23 pm

Al Gore = PhillanderinDouchnozleTwatWaffleAsshatSupreme

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Laughter Is Good For You March 19, 2015 at 6:48 pm

Jeb Bush?Really?ha
Scott Walker?Really?haha
Rand Paul ?Really?hahaha
Mike Huckabee?Really?hahahaha
Chris Christie?Really?hahahahaha
Ted Cruz? Really?hahahahaahaha
Rick Santorum? Really?hahahahahahaha
Ben Carson Marco Rubio,Donald Trump and all others mentioned for the Republican Party nomination?REALLY?hahahahahaahahahahahahaha!!!!!!

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ReduceGHGs March 19, 2015 at 8:15 pm

We’d be happy to vote for him! He’s not afraid to deal with the problems we face.
Thanks to Al Gore hundreds of millions more are aware of the dangers we face with climate change. Those that say there’s nothing to be concerned about are misinformed, uninformed, delusional, or dishonest. There’s no reasonable room for credible doubt. We are warming the plane and the consequences are not good.

Join the efforts to change course. Apathy/inaction effectively advocates for more of the same dangerous behaviors that put our future generations at risk. We can’t afford it.

ExhaustingHabitability(dot)org

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Paul Taylor March 19, 2015 at 9:12 pm

See 12-Step Recovery Plan for Environmentalists >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rqAPiJkDCew
Los Angeles Ecopolitics Examiner

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Kayla March 19, 2015 at 9:29 pm

This is the biggest bullshit I have ever fucking read.

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