HERE WE GO AGAIN …
By FITSNEWS || Barring a miracle, S.C. Senator Vincent Sheheen is going to lose his gubernatorial rematch against incumbent “Republican” Nikki Haley this November. He’s run a terrible campaign, and Haley has (thusfar) managed to avoid any major missteps.
Accordingly, South Carolina’s Governor’s Mansion is all but assured of remaining in GOP hands … for whatever that’s worth.
Prior to exiting statewide political stage, though, Sheheen decided to drop the proverbial “stink bomb” on the Palmetto landscape – specifically his recent call for the removal of the Confederate flag from its current position on the north lawn of the S.C. State House grounds.
According to Sheheen, “we must fly a flag that brings us all together. We must be a state that looks forward, towards a future of possibilities not backwards to discord.”
It’s been fourteen years since the flag was moved from atop the State House dome (and from its perch within the S.C. House and State Senate chambers) and placed on the north lawn.
“Off the dome and in your face,” as supporters of the banner are fond of saying.
This compromise – which attracted the support of black and white lawmakers – is now squarely in the crosshairs again. And it is likely to remain there as the 2016 presidential primary circus ramps up.
In fact within the next sixteen months, we expect a movement to emerge aimed at removing the flag from the State House altogether – similar to the movement that emerged in 2000 to take it off the dome.
For reasons surpassing understanding, “Republicans” permit the voters of South Carolina – who are getting dumber with each passing year – to play a prominent role in the selection of their presidential nominee every four years. They’ve responded by choosing the worst president ever (well, prior to the current one), the worst presidential candidate ever and … well, this guy.
Yeah. Way to go, South Carolina …
Anyway, the national attention this “First in the South” presidential primary brings to the Palmetto State has been almost uniformly negative. Especially in 2000, when a nasty battle between George W. Bush and John McCain played out against the backdrop of countless stories about the Confederate flag.
As a result of that national pressure, the flag was removed from the dome (and the House and Senate chambers) in April 2000. Most people accepted the compromise – but a vocal minority (pardon the pun) has been steadfast in opposing the flag’s continued presence on the State House grounds.
They want it in a museum. Or just gone.
The NAACP, for example, has been enforcing a tourism boycott against South Carolina ever since the compromise was passed, while the NCAA is refusing to hold collegiate athletic tournaments in the Palmetto state due to the presence of the flag. Meanwhile some Democratic lawmakers have attempted to discourage football recruits from attending the University of South Carolina as a result of the flag’s presence.
Of course as they rage against this symbol, many black leaders have supported – or failed to condemn – millions of dollars in spending on Confederate-themed nonsense.
So there’s that …
As 2014 fades in 2015, the looming presidential primary will prompt another round of national scrutiny on South Carolina. And Sheheen’s gubernatorial gambit – clearly desperate and likely ineffective as it pertains to his own race – nonetheless guarantees the Confederate flag issue will be part of the intensifying national scrutiny in advance of the presidential race.
What does that mean? Well for starters it means S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley – who sometimes fancies herself as presidential timber, other times views herself as the ringleader of the Palmetto presidential circus (um, not really) – will need to work on a much better answer to the question “do you support the flag compromise?”
Three years ago Haley supported it … but this year she seems less sure of her position.
She’s (rightfully) called out her opponent for being desperate, but that response only works in the context of her race. The bigger debate is still out there.
Beyond Haley, every potential, presumptive or declared presidential candidate who rolls into South Carolina over the next sixteen months had better have a definitive answer on the Confederate flag issue prepared as well … and be prepared to defend that position.
In the fall of 2009, 40 percent of FITS readers wanted the flag to stay where it is. Meanwhile 34 percent wanted it back on top of the State House and 26 percent wanted it off the grounds completely and placed in a museum.
This year a much broader sample of readers – polled in the wake of Sheheen’s gambit – found 38 percent who support the flag’s current location, 34 percent who want it moved to a museum and 28 percent who want it raised from the dome again.
Talk about the definition of a divisive issue …
This website continues to view the issue as pointless. We believe symbols like the Confederate flag – or any other flag – don’t matter because they can easily be used by anybody to advance anything … just like political labels.
“State leaders can leave it, move it, burn it or use it as a bath towel for all we care,” we wrote back in 2011.
Of course we can dismiss the issue all we want … that doesn’t change the fact it’s back in a big way at the precise moment the eyes of the political world are refocusing their attention on our fair state.
It’s fine where it is.
So correct me if I’m wrong but couldnt Senator Sheheen have done something as a Senator to address this before now instead of making political fodder out of this issue? Pander much???
Sheheen had a great chance at Boil and Stump, Georgetown and when Haley “vouched” for Goldfinch, to bring up many related issues. He should have let the dogs out on Goldfinch and taken this campaign to a whole another level. Haley’s weakness is her lack of control over her legislators and her administration at every level, with so many scandals from the house to every state agency. Basically, Haley has no control over her administration. Her governership has been so far : the leash is loose, I have no control…..cover up the scandals, i cant fix it…..I know who the crooks are, I’ll “vouch” for them and have them on my side……and if the law gets them, only then I will disown them. Its a third world politics…we deserve better. Why isnt Sheheen kicking Haley’s butt on all these….not that I support any one party…..just saying.
Sheheen should have stuck to running against Haley’s lousy record. Virtually no one links the issue to Haley in the first place.
You mean you would go to Georgetown and vouch of Goldfinch? After a federal criminal charge and the democrats describing it as “heinous” crime and the prosecutor’s office in Texas repeatedly saying the matter remains unresolved? You would do that? You would go there and vouch of Goldfinch, why, cos you (Haley) know better, huh? Of course Haley has no part in Goldfinch’s crime….but to go out there with an entourage on a victory tour…in official capacity and in the name of a respectable political party….to help a guy like Goldfinch to represent the good people of 108….dont know what to say about her judgement.
I never said anything in defense of Goldfinch.
If Haley likes him, that is a enough reason to NOT vote for him.
I don’t know the details of his supposed offense, but I would vote for him regardless.
Fair enough. At no point I will judge your vote, I dont have the right to judge your vote. BUT, I DO have the right to judge Haley’s decisions/choices and governance. I am sure you understand THAT main point in my original argument.
Wait! is the “issue” you mention here, the “lousy record”? I may have misread your statement. Are we talking from the same side then? either way…apologies if I misread your statement.
I think she will say it should stay where it is to get elected next month. Once elected she will quickly change her stance and come out for its removal in preparation to run for some national offce.
You’ve learned this incompetent, shilling,feckless, liar Haley pretty well
“Traitor” Democrat Tommy Crist Ervin-Williams never misses a chance to fax Fits a “special statement” on issues like gay marriage, which he supports.
Where does $$$$$ Tommy stand on Sheheen’s desperate attempt to play the race card on South Carolinian’s ?????
LMAO!!!!!! Is Ervin hiding behind that 3% as he cruises to victory? :-)
I was rooting for Ervin until I found out he supports same sex “marriage”. He seemed like such a good conservative too, at least from the surface.
There’s nobody worth voting for anymore.
Well,if she wants a chance to be on the national ticket she pretty much has to.
Oh the flag is a big plus with the ol boys here and a few other southern states,but they are going to be Republican in the presidential race,with or without its flying.
Republicans ,however ,need to win states OUTSIDE the south in order to win the Presidency and the flag doesn’t sell well in non southern states,particularly among Independents who the GOP must capture to be viable in most of these batteground states.
No prospective Republican presidential nominee is going to put on his ticket someone who either supports the flag or takes an ambiguous”Im for the compromise” position like Haley.
The GOP is dead either way. Doesn’t matter if they sell out their base (the South), because they’re never going to win a national election.
“the flag is a big plus with the ol boys here” — Why do you dismiss Southern girls and women?
there ol boys too…
“there ol boys too…” — ??? — You speakee de English?
“Accordingly, South Carolina’s Governor’s Mansion is all but assured of remaining in GOP hands … for whatever that’s worth.”
I’ll tell you what its worth. It’s akin to a negatively amortizing loan.
This is a non issue mole hill, made into a vote pandering mountain by a bunch of liberals desperate to keep the racial divide as wide as possible because it keeps blacks on the plantation. This flag flies over every Maurice’s in town and it doesn’t stop blacks (and whites) from swinging the door off the hinges. There are much bigger issues.
it does not. They removed all the flags a few years ago. I went there with a mission of racial justice and was sadly confronted only with greasy food.
I stand corrected, until they took it down it did nothing to prevent blacks (and whites) from swinging the door off the hinges. It’s a non issue.
its a non issue if you are a white person in SC, that is correct. Do you need a dump truck full of letters from black people to tell you how insulting this is? I swear its like half the readers on this website have never spoken to an educated black person! If you are fine with sacrificing many business opportunities and offending a sizable portion of the population to prop up some heritage that could easily be represented differently, be my guest. Otherwise, it is time to take down that stupid flag and make some damn money.
Contraire mon frère, it’s the educated black people who could care less.
You are clearly just another idiot from SC who is too ignorant to see past his country music and grand pappys life lessons. Have fun voting for people like me who will abuse the shit out of your tax dollars because you are too stupid to realize that I am lying to your face and too lazy to seek out the facts outside of hilariously opinionated “news”. Politicians play this states states coffer like a fiddle and you are on here arguing about why you are justified in offending black people. Try telling the next person you offend that they shouldn’t be offended and see how that goes. Have fun dying in ignorance old man.
Your culture of offense is why we waste our time arguing about this in the first place. You seem dumb.
wtf is a “culture of offense”? There is a 137% chance you are currently experiencing white privilege lol
(heard a professor in college use the term white privilege, thinks it is a meaningful insult outside of class)
This just in: There is a 12327% chance you don’t believe in white privilege
terrible troll attempt, please moderate
you must have a really important job where you can post on this site all day. You must be an SC politician if you have this must time to waste!
Not funny or clever. Please moderate.
aww Jackie is sad he keeps getting insulted by someone half his age. Should we make him a kickstarter so he can pay for his hurt-butt surgery and get a more worthwhile job?
(he typed, humiliating himself further)
No kickstarter then? Did the welfare check finally come?
It’s “butt hurt” not “hurt butt” if you want to stoop to using sophomoric euphemisms, correctly. When you misspeak like that you actually sound twice the age of Jackie Chiles.
damnit…I knew writing it like that would come back to bite me in the ass. Have you called the internet police yet?
What is the internet police?
(things old people say)
Ya dun goofed! (on a serious note just google it)
Says the buffoon that phrases butt hurt as hurt butt. There are no actual internet police, google it.
HAHAHAHAHA so much old people win in this comment, why don’t you tri force for me? Should I keep using internet references you clearly don’t understand?
No, the use of “internet police” has nothing to do with age, it’s a witless snarky attempt to make yourself seem clever… which you clearly are not based on the volumes of intellectual diarrhea you’re been spraying on here all day.
nah its an internet meme bro, I am not being clever lol I was just seeing if you had any knowledge of actual internet forums, which you clearly do not. you should probably just shut up and go watch some more fox news. Hearing your opinions blasted on a TV screen will probably make you feel a lot better. I will be gay marrying your son soon enough!!!
I killed by cable subscription over a year ago and I have no idea what “hawk4hire” is. So what are you even yammering about? Furthermore, I have no problem with gay marriage, but I’m pretty sure my son likes the ladies, sorry brah.
btw this guy was “hawk4hire” earlier
Why do people like you even live in South Carolina? We’re not forcing you to stay here. If you don’t like our ways, then you can move to commiefornia.
What’s white privilege?
So you don’t know what “white privilege” is. Okay. Just say so.
White privilege? It is the ‘benefit of the doubt’ that you believe you deserve whenever competing against people different from you, and whom you seem to believe are inferior to you based on the tone of your many comments… Hope you can ‘understandee’ that English!
You should learn to write proper English. — “It is the ‘benefit of the doubt’ that you believe you deserve whenever
competing against people different from you, and whom you seem to
believe are inferior to you based on the tone of your many comments.” Why is ‘benefit of the doubt’ in scare-quotes? Deserve what? “Deserve whenever” makes no sense. Your definition is without definition, and does not define, but, rather, obfuscates. Why would a definition address me? That is an ad hominem. Is “the ‘benefit of the doubt’ that you believe you deserve whenever
competing against people different from you, and whom you seem to
believe are inferior to you” not the non-defining definition of Arab Privilege, Jew Privilege, Congoloid Privilege, Creole Privilege, Chinese Privilege, etc.? You make no sense.
You can always tell stupid people with no argument… first thing they do is point out some BS about english, then write a bunch of crap that is clear sewage… don’t bother to respond as I won’t even view…. I’ll leave you to your blissful silliness!
Country music, are you talking about that nonsense Nü Country or are we talking about real country music like Willie Nelson, Jason Isbell and their ilk? Furthermore, I am adopted, so I never knew my “grand pappy”, you ignorant presumptuous fool.
this isn’t a debate about the merits of country music. All music has its ups and downs, people just love to hate things they don’t understand. This is all off topic. Remove the flag and you will probably see the NAACP boycott of SC removed is all I am saying.
Na.The race hustlers will find another reason to boycott or hold SC hostage.
You’re the one that brought up country music. Who gives a shit about the NAACP? Blacks should be the least of which who care about an organization that has done absolutely nothing for their race. People like Al Sharpton and William Barber have sat back and lined their pockets with the proceeds of their race baiting rhetoric. How many jobs has Sharpton created? How many people has Sharpton helped to get off of government assistance? The NAACP is worthless to the advancement of disenfranchised black people.
so glad to hear the racist white guys take on the NAACP. so enlightening and unique.
How do you come to the conclusion that I’m racist? Because I have an opposing view of things? I don’t think any race is superior and I actually don’t know what my ethnicity is, because I’ve never looked for my birth family. Although I have been accused of being half black, you know from the waist down.
When I was in high school (class of 2012), me and my friends wore Confederate shirts all the time, and no one gave two shits. You know why? Because black people don’t care anymore. The Southern Cross didn’t stop us from learning in the same room or playing ball on the same field, and it never caused any animosity.
I see Confederate flags flying everywhere around here, and no one takes a second look, because it’s not a racist flag, but a Southern flag. It’s our flag, a flag our ancestors fought for, and a flag their descendants will always honour.
LOL no wonder the south is considered the worst place to live (http://ow.ly/CnJMP). Outside of the south there isn’t even a debate on how cruel this flag is. Some people can only imagine their relatives being whipped every time they see that flag, and you are going to sit there and say it doesn’t matter if it stays up? You have to be straight up stupid or ignorant to define your heritage by less than 10 years. A royal fuck you Will Folks, you are clearly just another career-minded SC good ole boy too afraid to upset the order you claim to detest (I bet thats why you never released real evidence about NH). SC will continue to have this pointless debate on whether or not to continue insulting african americans everywhere while billions of taxpayer dollars are spend on political boondoggles and the rural people are silenced and given no healthcare. How else will the SC retain its reputation of being poor and stupid?
Not as stupid as your brainless response. If you had anything worthwhile to say you would have said it. Stick to injury cases, Jackie.
(guy who cries about people being offended while offending people)
oooh so you changed your original comment to make yourself look less idiotic. Good move! I would have done the same.
(Desperation creeping in)
says the dude who went back and changed his comment so the readers of fitsnews.com would think he is less idiotic…
your tears are delicious
buddy, I am eating this up as much as you are. Thanks for keeping it alive :D
If this pointless debate prevents us from becoming New Hampshire, Massachusetts or California, then bring it on.
It prevents South Carolina from being one of the most competitive places in the United States to do business. Notice how our neighbors (Georgia, NC, Florida), who also have a very colorful racial history, are among the top ten places to do business in the US and racism is still deeply rooted in their culture. They abandoned these fruitless debates because it hurts the state overall, which SC is wholly unwilling to do, for some reason.
Yeah, the flag on the statehouse grounds is why companies don’t want to come to SC to make money. That’s why the Olympics didn’t come to Atlanta. Also why businesses are fleeing GA as fast as they can because the stars and the bars was the prototype for the current GA state flag.
Ludwig and getout are the same poster. In my notifications, Ludwigs BS shows up as getoutwhileyoucan. There are places where he is talking to himself. Of course, I would imagine there is quite a few things Ludwig is forced to do by himself.
Don’t forget about BMW, Michelin, and Boeing high telling it out of here because they’re scared of our battle flag lol.
You’re insane – the flag has nothing to do with our economic standing. The un/poorly educated, feckless, ignorant folks along the “Corridor of Shame” and similar enclaves throughout the state are the start of the problem. Next is our ridiculous corporate tax system and finally, is the incompetent people we send to the legislature.
Georgia spent hundreds of millions of dollars in their flag fight and wound up coming full circle to the flag they flew prior to the Civil Rights act.North Carolina has their own corridors of poverty that rival ours.
Since Alabama abandoned the flag, it’s economy rivals that of Germany and China.
Virginia still has there’s up…
Arkansas has it as a part of their current flag…
Haven’t you heard? Their economies would be 100 times better if they would just get rid of the flag. Economists have proven this fact through extensive research.
Should we also remove statues of George Washington, a slave owner, and boycott Raiders of the Lost Arc, as it prominently features a whip? I don’t particularly like pulling up along sit a car (interesting that blacks call them WHIPS) with a myriad of obscenity laced language mixed over a bunch of half assed beats, but I turn my head and ignore it. Maybe the race baiters should do the same.
You are going off topic. Many founding fathers profitted from slavery, as did many African warlords who raided enemy villages and sold them. The point is that in this country once slavery was abolished the prejudice against black people was institutionalized. It is evidenced in arrest rates, poverty rates, median income, and the list goes on. Every single race had slaves, but in THIS country(you know, the one we are currently ranting from) black slavery happened and the effects are still seen today. No one is asking for reparations or a signed apology letter from “the whites”, these people just want to move on with their life and stop dealing with unnecessary prejudices that remind them of a troubled time for their people. Is that so hard to ask?
And part of their “moving on” involves my son getting a lesson on how to perform cunnilingus on a woman set to sampled beats blasting out of the window of the car next to us, while we sit at a stoplight peacefully waiting to “move on” to our next destination?? If we take it down, do blacks magically start acting like productive peaceful members of society? I know the answer to that one.
ahhh now we have come to the real issue. You hate black people because of the stereotypes you have assigned to them based on biased experiences with institutionally poor people.
I make no assumptions about one’s socioeconomic status when they’re blasting a load of filthy idiotic lyrics set to canned drum and bass. How could I possibly know what their economic status is? Money or no money, it’s ignorant to sit at a stoplight or slow ride a parking lot with their stereos cranked to 11 blasting content that would be banned for broadcast by the FCC. Can we at least agree on that?
yes, but lets be clear: Black people as a whole do not perpetrate this. You may have an acute experience given that you live in a place where 56% of black people in the US live, the majority in poverty, but given an education and a chance, 9/10 people wouldn’t act like that. Ignorant people blast their music at 11 all the time, no matter their color. ex: every other country in the world has ghetto people who do this
You have obviously not spent much time at the Gamecock Bilo on Devine Street in Columbia.
Bullshit, black men don’t eat pussy… because have you seen what they have to work with? Having to pry fat folds to get to it is going to create some funky smells.
You liberals won’t be happy until ISIS hangs its FLAG in the wHite house.Oh wait…they did?
I support the drone strikes. I also support an expanded military. Suck my clock you racist dbag and go find some morals that make sense anywhere outside of your group of friends (you probably won’t though so just suck my clock because it is legal in SC now!!!!!)
(still Jackie Chiles)
(debates 3 year old daughter, loses on daily basis)
(gets into pointless debates with college kids on the internet because his life is so unimportant that he no better way to spend his time)
(wastes time for pointless debate, derides person winning debate for wasting time in pointless debate)
(takes troll bait, I lol at evidence of adults clearly unimportant life) Can’t wait to make more than you right out of college! Probably make just as much money as you do now lol
Even worse troll attempt. Please moderate.
“(debates 3 year old daughter, loses on a daily basis)”
OH DANG YOU HUMILIATED WITH YOUR BRILLIANT REPLY YOU ARE THE KING OF THE TROLLS. keep up the stupidity, I got a few more hours of time to kill.
Getoutwhileyoucan crying, losing HOAP
(has nothing worthwhile to say, continues to take troll bait)
The internet is so fun, don’t you think?
I know it is. In my opinion Sheheen and Ervin want to replace the Confederate Flag with that pretty Rainbow Flag? What do you think Barney. Be frank with me.
The confederates were the ISIS of their day…
Really? Blacks being incarcerated at a higher rate is not because they commit more crimes? Preying on people and sitting on their ass and collecting a “check” is all because their Great, Great, Great, Great Grandfather picked some cotton?
I’m so sick of hearing this Bull Shit! Enough is enough! Blacks have the same opportunity as everyone else if not more. They just have to apply themselves and quit sitting around waiting on a handout because someone in their family tree was a slave. Give me me a break!
Simple, if you can’t do the time, don’t do the crime. Quit bitchin’ if you get caught. Sheesh.
White people are arrested at the same rates as black people yet black people make up 86% of the prison population. Here is the real saying in America: If you don’t have the connections or a good lawyer, don’t do the crime. (Especially true in SC, where 8k will get 3 Marijuana distribution felony charges dropped down to 2 misdemeanor posession charges even if you have priors)
if you are tired hearing it, quit saying it … it is pure BS and its coming from YOUR keyboard… BTW, am I to believe that ‘Blacks’ will get any ‘opportunity’ if people who think like you talk are making the decisions? Think about it … if you can!
Well, old Jemmy Madison did the best that he could, right after the War of 1812.
He set up the country of Liberia, so that any slaves or freemen who wished to return to Africa would have a place to go, guaranteed by the then “powerful” United States (who had just beat the Brits for the second time in 25 years).
Seems not many wanted to go back, notwithstanding “the return to [their] roots” – Then or Now. We will have to take the costs of Liberia from the proposed “reparations”, of course.
And they do seem to have a problem with Ebola…
Any takers? Are you unhappy in SC? Are you unhappy in the US? There IS an alternative place to go.
So many uninformed opinions it is hard to sift through. next rant please.
So when are you leaving?
when everyone uses a single username for their comments…
Well obviously that’s “never”, so I guess you’re content to bitch about how miserable things are instead of being proactive and making your life not so miserable.
I kind of feel sorry for you.
WHY,are Soooooo many people moving into the state of South Carolina,if it,s the worst place to live???
Haley wants a red dot flag but the liquor stores aren’t ready to give it up.
Japan may have an issue with it too.
Knowledge of basic social studies for the win!
Careful, I may be smarter than a fifth grader.
Japan has a pre-emptive option on the “red dot”
I thought Lindsey Graham was going to run for the 2016 nomination thereby make the SC primary meaningless, as SC would no doubt support one of it’s own.
That is your problem -thinking! :-) Let me do that for you liberal idiots.
I got repubs picking up 8 seats in senate, 10 in house and losing 1 governorship. Brownback will win in Kansas.
Gonna be ugly in the state legislatures for dems with the SCOTUS “gay marriage” debacle.
I was only referring to the FITS News article on Lindsey. It is still here. If you can learn how to use a scroll button, you can read it for yourself.
I doubt Lindsey will actually do it myself. Too many err.. skeletons in his closet. Closet being the operative word.
I don’t generally make predictions this far out, but PA will not be the only GOP governor to lose. Brownback is the 2nd or 3rd most likely to fall after PA.
The GOP leadership is saying a 12 seat pickup is quite achievable, so a 10 seat gain would actually be sub-par. I’ll concede a 5 seat pickup is probably the minimum. Either result would be a ‘victory’ in a second term midterm when losses usually run in the 30-50 seat range.
While it is theoretically possible for the GOP to gain 8 senate seats, they would have to win 11 out of the 12 competitive races. Even in a wave election, that is a very tall order. Only two incumbent D senators collectively, have lost in the last 30 or so years. At least twice that many have to lose, just in this ONE election for your prediction to come true.
With two states (LA and GA) likely headed to a runoff, it will be Dec. or Jan. before we even know the final result.
Brownback will win in Kansas.
They should at least get the right flag in front of the State Capital. The one they have is the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia, not South Carolina. The one they should use is the South Carolina “Big Red,” Battle Flag (SC State Flag in Red color), or the Bonny Blue Flag (all blue with one silver star in the middle). Both of those 2 flags were used exclusively by SC during the Succession time and during most of the war.
Big Red has been used by SC Troops of all colors & backgrounds in every war, even prior to the Civil War. It is still in use in Afghanistan. It’s used by The Citadel instead of the Battle Flag of Northern Virginia. A colored State Flag is used at most SC Colleges usually using the Schools colors (USC’s is Garnet and Black, Clemson is Orange, and etc.). It represents the fighting sprit of SC Citizens of all colors and all backgrounds. I recommend it over the traditional Battle Flag of Northern Virginia, which has been purloined by many unethical people for their own misguided purposes.
Bonnie Blue would be better imo. it wasn’t used by the Klan, and it’s more appealing to the eye.
they should all be boiled in petrol and burned…
Can the NAACP please extend the boycott as much as possible? Yeah, that’ll teach the folks in SC. Maybe include Memorial day week in MB.
Sheheen has shown his total gutlessness on too many issues to get any cred from showing a let-the-chips-fall-where-they-may attitude on the Confederate flag.
Don’t blame Sheheen.He is a Democrat.When they are getting the shit kicked out of em the order comes from the DNC to play the race card and burn the damn place down if you have to.
Wait until the grand jury in Ferguson does not return an indictment against the police officer. My prediction is St.Louis will burn as well as other major cities.I pray I am wrong.
this. If the dude actually took a stance on something people may vote for him. At least the voters can pin down what Nikki stands for.
Way to put in a post to get the ‘ol hit count up, Fits.
Just my opinion, but it at least makes more sense where it is now than when it was flying over the dome.
I don’t believe it’s that big of a deal myself, but meh.
It gets the haters on both sides fired up enough to get off their fat a$$es and maybe vote. Nothing more, nothing less.
Just an fyi, “hawk4hire” keeps changing his screen name on posted comments. Trying to make himself look like a slightly less crazy old racist dude by appearing to have support. Why are you trolling this article so hard hawk4hire, no real job?
Funny, I don’t recall any stories of KKK idiots burning confederate flags in anyone’s lawn and yet we have plenty people of color hanging out at buildings with Crosses on them. I view this as it has always been, a non-issue aimed at distracting the lowest common denominator of voters.
^(Disregards history of Christianity to make point)
I bet you think every Muslim belongs to ISIS too.
I bet you think every Confederate had a plantation with slaves, genius.
only the rich white ones. From you earlier comment its clear you probably shouldn’t get into a debate on history. But then again…screw it, lets hear your history lessons! Crack an egg of knowledge on me!
I can see all 57 sides,but ‘I was born a rebel;one foot in the grave and one foot on the pedal’-https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoV-awiHpuM
Correction: **1860 All Over Again**
You’d think the losers would want to forget the South’s Struggle to Save Slavery, aka the Civil War.
I’m pretty sure there was slavery under the old Stars and Stripes a good bit longer than under the flag of the Confederacy. But that’s none of my business…
Don’t trust any politician in the South regarding the flag….you are a fool to believe anything they say about it….it is up to the citizens to keep our heritage alive. Trust me I am from Georgia…..Sonny Perdue got elected on getting our flag back….he lied and did not give us a chance to vote on the flag we wanted….sound like Hong Kong right now?
Such “heritage” was soundly routed and should not be kept alive.
I just wish Yankees would leave us alone. Why can’t we honour our ancestors and land in peace, without them forcing us to desecrate and erode our symbols and history?
“the voters of South Carolina…are getting dumber with each passing year.” – Is S.C. becoming more White, or less?
Something I never read in connection to this flag is how beautiful it is. It’s aesthetically superior to the federal rag.
“many black leaders have…” — What’s a “black leader”?
O saisons, ô châteaux,
Quelle âme est sans défaut ?
J’ai fait la magique étude
Du Bonheur, qu’aucun n’élude.
Salut à lui, chaque fois
Que chante le coq gaulois.
Ah! je n’aurais plus d’envie :
Il s’est chargé de ma vie.
Ce charme a pris âme et corps,
Et dispersé les efforts.
O saisons, ô châteaux,
L’heure de sa fuite, hélas !
sera l’heure du trépas
O saisons, ô châteaux !
if you don’t like our flag then just fuck off it will stay where it is for ever so get over it
Why does the NAACP and their lackeys GET TO DEFINE A HISTORICAL AMERICAN FLAG?
TELL THE SC LEGISLATURE AND GOVERNOR NOT TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF CERTAIN PEOPLE.
TAKE BACK OUR FLAG. PLEASE SIGN THIS PEITITION: