SENATOR SCHOOLS SIERRA CLUB LEADER
We’re not a country that engages in the Socratic method much anymore. Hell, people see a YouTube clip that’s more than a minute long and they invariably run for the hills.
But we found one particular clip (fair warning, it’s ten minutes long) that is worth watching …
It shows U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas questioning Sierra Club president Aaron Mair on the ongoing pause in “global warming.” And Mair failing miserably in attempting to respond to those questions.
“How do you address the facts that in the last 18 years the satellite data show no demonstrable warming whatsoever?” Cruz grilled Mair.
“Sir I would rely on the Union of Concerned Scientists, and I would rely on our own NOAA officials,” Mair responded. “The data are there.”
“Is it correct that the satellite data over the last 18 years demonstrate no significant warming?” Cruz asked again.
“No,” Mair responded.
“How is it incorrect?” Cruz asked.
At this point, Mair leans back to receive advise from his staff.
“Based upon our experts it’s been refuted long ago, and it’s not up for scientific debate,” he eventually responded.
Ah yes … the old “right is what we say it is” mantra that’s been at the heart of the global warming hoax for years.
As we’ve noted many times previously, you can’t argue with supporters of global warming because all they see – everywhere, in everything – is validation of their theory. Hot summer? Global warming. Cold winter? Global warming. Cool summer? Global warming. Mild winter? Yeah … you’re getting it.
Also not up for scientific debate in Mair’s view? The assertion that global warming disproportionately impacts “people of color and low-income communities.” According to him, this “should not be up for debate any more so than the science behind climate change itself.”
Pressed by Cruz to back up his claims, though, Mair couldn’t do it. Nor could he explain the ongoing global warming pause.
“I do find it highly interesting that the President of the Sierra Club would, when asked what the scientific data demonstrate about warming, apparently is relying on staff,” Cruz said. “The nice thing about the satellite data is these are objective numbers.”
“Correct,” Mair responded.
Again and again, Cruz asks Mair basic questions … and again and again Mair turns to his staff before offering pat responses with absolutely no corresponding justification.
Watch the exchange here …
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(Vid: Via)
Cruz received high praise for his performance.
Mair? Not so much …
“The amazing thing here is not that the guy disagrees – what’s amazing is that he doesn’t seem to know what Ted Cruz is even talking about,” the website Ace of Spades HQ noted. “He does not know what ‘the pause’ refers to (it’s the 18 year long pause in predicted global warming), and has to rely on advisors throughout the questioning.”
“At no point does he seem to even show a glimmer of recognition of this fact,” Ace added. “This is all new news to him.”
“Seriously, it looks bad when the head of your organization has to keep getting fed lines by his staff,” Moe Lane of RedState.com opined.
Even the liberal mainstream media slammed Mair, with The Houston Chronicle noting his exchange with Cruz demonstrated a “shocking lack of knowledge about climate change from an organization that counts addressing climate change disruption among its most important goals.”
That’s putting it nicely …
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Yeah, I’m sure The Houston Chronicle is not going to support the Oil industry side of the argument.
Actually they didn’t … they supported the global warming position. Their point was the guy advancing that position was an idiot.
Floodpoclypse dang it.
Rationality will never get in the way of ignorance and refusal to see that the waters are muddied with false information. GT doesn’t see things as being rational, he only sees things in an ideological and emotional way. Thus, I only really see these as opinion pieces, and nothing of fact. People just can’t seem to see beyond what they allow themselves to see.
Who ourth thou great sage.
I am mrbraindead. We’ve had exchanges here before actually, and I respect your opinions.
I agree with that position. The Sierra club guy was pathetic.
But Big Oil has paid an enormous amount of money over the years to “disprove” climate change data. No different that what the tobacco industry did to convince us that ciggies were not bad for us, or what Big Pharma and Big Booze have done to discredit all who want to legalize weed for any purpose whatsoever. In fact, some of the same hired shill apologist “experts” have been on the payroll of several of these “Bigs.”
Cruz is a tool of Big Money, and in particular that branch of Big Money that wants to have full reign to fuck over the planet and all living things in every way it can that will turn a profit for them. Let future generations deal with it, seems to be the position they take. They’re getting theirs now, fuck the future.
He is also in league with a bunch of extremely useful idiots who believe that literally every single living species on the earth somehow crowded onto a big boat that really was built by a guy named Noah — and that dinosaurs were not on that boat because they didn’t exist, and their bones were planted by Satan to turn us all against God.
He is clearly NOT a spokesman for “the free market”, which may or may not really exist at this time (IF it ever did, or ever will). He is an unpleasant, pedantic little opportunist creep, who always looks like he’s either in the process of taking a painful dump, or passing a huge kidney stone. Hardly anyone you should hold up as a hero.
+10 Mike! And I’ll add that a little face paint and he looks like the Joker from Batman. Except I don’t remember the Joker be a whiny sniveling bitch. Liar, yes. But whiny sniveling bitch, never.
I swear I’d pay to have some Photoshop pro put this together. It would go viral
Who is Mike?
What happened to Mike at the Beach’s comment?
It’s not referred to as global warming anymore. Because it’s not just about warming. It’s about change. That’s the starting point. And, we all know that Cruz is a gifted debater, can’t argue that. But, that doesn’t mean his point was correct. Re: Mair? His performance was truly unexplainable but I think he will have lots of opportunities to practice–when he’s interviewing for new jobs.
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Well, he is a Canadian, it’s purty cold up thar.
i read on the internet that he was raised by canadian muslims up in the klondike
Its worse, you don’t even have to make this shit up. His father was a Communist in Cuba who tried to join Castro’s army; before coming to the US illegally and attending the University of Texas on the taxpayer dime.
OMG! a muslim communist.
Canadian-born Ted Cruz won’t show us his birth certificate, I guess he doesn’t want us to foil his plans to bring Canadian Socialism to America.
Ted is about to find out what a real smack down feels like…from his own party.
What is the position of the Union of Concerned Circus Workers on this issue?
Politicians pretending to know more about science than scientists.
Did pretty well this time.
I am not a scientist, but I play one on C-SPAN.
While hiding behind the cloak of “I’m not a scientist, but….”
Mair is a useless adminstrator NOT a scientist – he is embarrassing and should not testify!
http://blog.chron.com/sciguy/2015/10/ted-cruz-1-sierra-club-0/
The science is complex and Cruz is wrong for Mair needs to go prepare himself or LET A SCIENTIST FAMILIAR WITH THE SCIENCE TESTIFY!!!!
Republicans don’t believe in scientists unless they are funded by the oil industry.
That is not true!!! The coal industry has a lot of good scientists.
Really any corporate-backed scientist knows his stuff, as long as that corporation donates to Republican candidates I like.
Like AL-GORE…LMAO….Hahahahahahaha…
I think, being a layman myself, that the science is so complex that neither you, nor I, nor many people can truly understand what is going on. To discount global warming as a hoax is wrong, but it’s okay to err on the side of caution. Firstly, you’ve got to know where you’re getting these climate models from. Who are the sources that are giving out this information? Trace them back to their initial source and see who’s funding this sector of research. Who’s being bought out by the oil industry, and who’s not? Who’s a paid shill purposely muddying the waters with disinformation (a practice on both sides) and who isn’t? Climate change is natural, sure, but in all fairness I personally believe we exacerbate the issues by polluting our planet with toxins. Much like our bodies, a very sensitive and frail organism, the earth is very much so the same way. We see our home as strong, but once you poison it with a cancerous additive (human beings, associated wastes that poison the oceans and make water uninhabitable, pollute the air, etc) then you’ve got an issue. China, for instance, is nearly uninhabitable due to pollution. You lose years off your life breathing in the poisonous smog, and drinking the poisonous water. Think about what that’s doing to our planet.
Cruz is bought and paid for by big Oil. He will deny anything is happening right up until the last piece of ice on the planet melts. He is no different from the Senators from Tobacco states in the 50s and 60s. Cigarettes do not cause Cancer. There is no evidence. Scientist are lying. LIberals are lying. Give your kids a carton for Christmas.
We’ll be long dead before the last piece of ice melts. When the arctic keeps shedding his shell, it releases dangerous amounts of carbon into the atmosphere. Catastrophic amounts. If I could upvote your comment a hundred more times I would. I didn’t even THINK about big tobacco in the 50s and 60s, and not to mention what big oil did when scientists realized that lead in gasoline was poisonous.
Okay, okay, I was wrong, climate change is real and we are all screwed. But really, this is all the Democrats’ fault!
Does this FITSNews concession to Cruz mean the Liberals and Liberal-Tarians are facing their Disaster, FINALLY, and cutting and running on the 2016 Presidential Race…
If you admit Climate Change is a LIE…it’s like saying the Democrat Party is a bunch of idiots, who base their whole doctrine on myths and fallacy.
Don’t worry, I’m going to help out the liberals and get Hillary elected.
GrandTango, I’d fire you, but we all know you have no job. You’re a loser.
Your campaign has disintegrated into hoping for some fantasy that Trump is not really slapping the FUCK out of you…but is on your side…
You are some ignorant Mofos…that’s for sure…
People worry that these losers will catch on to my game but they still haven’t. I told you! I can talk about raising taxes for the rich, I can talk about how George Bush was a disaster, I can even give Fox News the finger, and these idiots don’t get I’m on Hillary’s side. Always have been. She sure never turned down my checks.
Charleston is now crippled by flooding from high tides every few weeks. Just the damn tide coming in. This didn’t happen 30 years ago.
Who cares what an idiot politician who’s in the pocket of the oil companies thinks? Who the hell cares?
Try to chill. Help is mounting and is on the way. R U OK ,
“How do you address the facts that in the last 18 years the satellite data show no demonstrable warming whatsoever?” Cruz grilled Mair.
Well, here is how I would have answered: http://www.skepticalscience.com/does-global-warming-pause-mean-what-you-think.html
Check out the graph down the page to see the latest pause, then consider the trend.
What a pussy. Cruz is afraid to change his opinion when confronted with new evidence.
Ted Cruz…..waste of skin and not even an american citizen
Maybe, Mair should have used the favorite GOP response to climate change: “I’m not a scientist’.
Ted Cruz has never smacked shit but his wiener. The health of the economy is too important to worry about the health of the earth