ECO-RADICALISM’S ESCALATING COST …
|| By FITSNEWS || In early 2014 a study commissioned by “Big Coal” found that poor people paid a disproportionately high percentage of their incomes on energy costs – and that all people were paying more of their income on energy costs due to declining income levels.
But before a bunch of recalcitrant enviro-radicals play the ad hominem “Big Coal is Biased!” card, let’s consider a few things.
First, income levels are falling (especially when you adjust for inflation). And poor people do pay disproportionate percentages of their income on energy costs.
These’s aren’t industry opinions, they are established facts – confirmed by reams of data (including government data). So while “Big Coal” may indeed be biased, it’s not like the industry is talking out of its hindquarters on these particular points …
Don’t believe us? Educate yourself …
Nor is “Big Coal” alone in arguing that the latest installment of U.S. president Barack Obama‘s eco-radicalism – an effort to shutter power plants across the country – is only going to exacerbate the problem.
It is …
Last September, U.S. Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina and Lisa Murkowski of Alaska released a report outlining the devastating effect higher energy costs would have on already cash-strapped citizens.
“Too many Americans suffer from energy insecurity; they cannot afford the energy required to heat or cool their homes or secure other basic needs such as refrigeration,” Scott and Murkowski wrote at the time.
In fact, their report argued a ten percent increase in nationwide energy costs – which is a low-end estimate of the damage of Obama’s proposals – would plunge 840,000 additional Americans into poverty.
And yes, poverty in America is already at record levels.
“American families should not be forced to choose between affording groceries and heating their home,” Scott said.
Scott should know. The people he represents are more vulnerable than most.
According to data from the U.S. Energy Administration, Palmetto State residents – among the lowest income earners in America – pay 12.52 cents per kilowatt of electrical power.
That’s the highest rate in the south, people.
Can they afford the impact of Obama’s $8.4 billion-a-year plan? Um, no. Not even a little bit.
And beyond the widening and deepening of poverty … let’s not forget how higher energy costs will continue squeezing what’s left of the middle class.
For those of you early voters in South Carolina, Democratic frontrunner Hillary Clinton has vowed to push forward Obama’s mandates if she is elected, while the vast majority of the GOP field – including establishment choice Jeb Bush – oppose the plan.
Choose your candidate accordingly …
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…bleeding heart liberal!
“…Obama‘s eco-radicalism – an effort to shutter power plants across the country – is only going to exacerbate the problem.”
You are right on the money. Obama is shutting down Coal fired power plants across the nation. Not a bad deal– you might say, we need clean air. Yes we do, but given that 39 percent of the electricity generated in the US in 2014(see link) was by coal-fired power plants, it is going to drive the cost of electricity sky high. also the coal producing sections of this country will suffer economic stress where coal mining is a major part of the economy.
We need to try to keep the environment as clean as possible, but the mass shutting down of coal fired power plants so quickly will have a very serious impact on our economy and definitely put the poorer portion of our citizens in a bind. Phasing in cleaner power production would be a smart move, but Obama made the statement while campaigning for his first term that he was “going to put the coal industry out of business.” Looks like he is succeeding, and it appears he is slapping the average American in the face.
The coal-fired plant that is ten miles from my house was not shuttered, it was demolished and removed…Good luck on those power bills.
http://www.eia.gov/tools/faqs/faq.cfm?id=427&t=3
All this means is coal plants will shut down. Obama wants to destroy an entire industry, put millions out of work, and make all our electric rates skyrocket. Not like he didn’t warn us.
I took him seriously when he said it. And there is no way we can replace 39 percent of our power producing capability with renewable energy sources anytime soon.
Thank you for your link above.
Yes, you are welcome, and it is a .gov site, so the lefties can not denounce it as right propaganda. It would put this country in a bind if all that capacity goes away. And it would take years, if not decades to replace that capacity.
If the US doesn’t elect a conservative Republican POTUS in 16 we are going to be the cleanest, greenest poorest third world country on earth. The first act of a new POTUS should be to close and lock the door to the EPA. And cancel every executive order Obummer has made from day one/.
That person would be elected without a problem.
Amen brother! All the E/O’s per EPA AND immigration AND Obamacare will be GONE!
Just like I predicted the Supreme Court demolishing gay marriage and Obamacare. I’m Nostradamus!
yep that is correct, south carolina is ready and willing to put a right wing nut case in the white house, but the rest of the country is not, you will just have to settle on your state welfare subsidies coming from the other states that will elect your next potus and spend the rest of your life bitching about it.
Except that’s clearly not true.
European nations…let’s say the Scandanavian ones…consistently rate in the highest GDP per capita rankings. They also invest in their own citizenry by everything from full healthcare to generous pensions, lots of paid leave, subsidized education, etc.
A lot of them also make $$ from oil and natural gas but enforce strict EU codes on promoting green energy, renewables and the like. They are not destitute by a damn site and they get the street cred of being able to say hand on heart that they are making a difference in reducing global warming.
The problem is the US is comprised of 50% of idiots (South and Midwest I’m talking to you) that will gladly kill their own mothers if Fox tells them to. Add that to a corrupt political system, vulture capitalism and complete disregard for our fellow men/women…and you have the current state of things.
right on, right on, what khunt said
Dumb fuck,Green Energy MAY work in SOME parts of the country.It just costs 10x MORE.
But it doesn’t. Although those countries don’t spend 14% of their GDP on defense…
and they don’t spend billions jailing and ruining people’s lives for smoking pot and other bullshit offenses
true and true.
Thank you for bringing that point up! They don’t spend crippling anounts on defense because we have their backs and we do.
Our military spending is humongous for two reasons: to violently interfere in the affairs of other countries for our own self interests, and to defend ourselves from people who see us as a threat for doing it.
Somebody has to lead. Plain and simple. Since we have no leader it looks like the Russians are going to give it a try. Let’s see how that works out.
I trust communist Putin more than muslim Obama.
There are only two true leaders in the world today, Putin in Russia and Netanyahu in Israel.
May have to add Trump to the list if he continues to drive the Democrats and Republican establishment insane.
Correct
You and mamatiger92 must have attended the same liberal school for language retards?
This is BOTH of your contributions TODAY:
1.Correct
2.bingo
3.preach
How bout ” Ain’t it grand ? “
Like having a grown kid brag about their nice car and how big the payments are when they are living rent free under your roof and eating you out of house and home. Maybe they should brag about non-subsidized countries?
They let US spend our money protecting them. That is something else that needs to stop.
If we didnt have to give govt assistance to lazy asses like you, flip chucker. Maybe we could lower energy prices?
Flip is busy right now posing as multiple people on this blog. Leave a message after the beep and Flip-Nick Chugger-Sandi Morals-GrandTango will get back to you. BEEEP!
I’m sure there’s a connection. For you. Probably one that involves Jade Helm 15. Or those ISIS troops Obama is bringing to the U.S.
That is funny !
Yes, that sure works well in countries like Greece and Italy.
You can’t just bring up Greece and expect to ignore the countries that have done well for decades under the kind of things Limbaughsaphatkhunt mentioned. Norway, Sweden, Denmark, Germany, the UK, plenty others too.
Perhaps Italy, Greece, and Spain fucked up something that the rest of them didn’t? No, let’s not give all the other highly successful countries a fair shake. Sod off.
If you like those “advanced” countries so good, why don’t you go there ??? I’ll bet you have become a slave to that bad old free enterprise. LOL
Surprised it took someone so long on this thread to get to “love our crap or leave it”. Yeah, that’s sure better than “fix it” any day, I’m sure. And, your grammar gives you away.
I was using a vernacular dumb asses like you could understand.
Right. And Carson didn’t mean ALL Muslims, just certain ones. You backpedal with the best of them Rogue. But in all fairness, your are right about the homogeneous nature of Scandinavian countries making it easier to govern. But, they have a VERY different culture than ours. And, their social democracies are still working quite well (along with Germany’s)
Carson has spun it that he didn’t mean all of them. But that’s not what he originally said.
You lying POS you know he meant Sharia Law and that Muslims believe that is to be followed-NOT our Constitution.
Hi, my name is flip! LMAO!!!!!!!!!!!!
Flip, Pogo, Sandi Moraless, Flip Coscoe, Nick Chucker (who’s also on Clash of Clans). But we just love to call him Flip. He’s not Tango though. Tango’s too vile a person.
Wouldn’t put it past Pogo to have chosen his new name as a variation of “spear chucker” since he’s a racist and all.
Actually I am part Indian with ancestors from the Sioux.My great great great grandfather was known as Buffalo Wing Chucker.
I knew it! You are a Democrat! You DO want a Sanders/Warren ticket you dirty socialist! Pogo you are so predictable you tax loving liberal!
The Pope is a socialist plant. I don’t know how the left managed to do it but they’ve infiltrated the Catholic Church.
“Nick” isn’t even denying he’s that socialist flip anymore.
No time. My dashboard is causing me problems.
Maybe you should concentrate on your driving, socialist.
excel
We were always there.
Indian like Nikki? Explains mucho.
Middle Initial A – Nick A Chucker
This coming from a person caught posting under numerous alternate accounts, upvoting your own posts, and making fake posts impersonating other registered users.
Signs of a liar. Exactly what Nick Chugger flip fc sandi morals is!
All Muslims? Bonsian Muslims? Singapore Muslims? Chinese Muslims? All of them? Tell the truth now.
That was my point Buzz, lost in the sarcasm–sorry for the confusion
Sarcasm works ONLY if you are witty and informed.You are neither however in this case you get a pass as Boz is a moron.
It takes a lot of money to move somewhere. Moving overseas is even more expensive and time consuming. It also means leaving your friends and family behind. There’s also nothing wrong with just wanting general improvements to what you see as a great country. Even the greatest countries have things they need to improve, there is no shame in admitting it.
I feel like people who bring out this argument can’t actually debate the issues being discussed and want an easy way out so they don’t have to look stupid.
I’m sure you don’t like Obamacare, should you have to move because you don’t like it? I’m sure you don’t like a lot of things Obama is doing, why aren’t you packing your bags? Are you going to tell us that it’s different in your case? That is why your argument is bad.
General improvements here are what it is all about. It just pisses me off when these jerks just say how bad it is here and how great it is everywhere else. The Scandinavian countries were , up until the Muslim invasion, mostly the same people. They don’t have the “diversity” we have. Everyone going in the same direction makes governing much easier. They may even make liberalism work for a while. BTW. I was here before Obummer and with God’s help I will be here after he is gone.
‘General Improvements’ socialists like ‘Costs To Much’ want are very simple…destruction of the Judeo Christian foundations in this country(gay marriage), redistribution of wealth(obamacare) and using matches to heat your home,cook and read(EPA).
I may not be the brightest light on the block, but when Obummer said he wanted to fundamentally change the greatest nation in history, what else could he have meant besides take it down ?
You are correct.Ben Carson has it right.He says the the gay marriage issue is much bigger than two people just having the same legal rights as those that enter into a God/Bible based traditional marriage-man and women.
Those on the left want the Bible eliminated from society.
Umm, make it better.
“destruction of the Judeo Christian foundations in this country(gay marriage), redistribution of wealth(obamacare) and using matches to heat your home,cook and read(EPA)….”
I just described the Pope after hearing his speech in congress. :(
Confederate flag taken down.
Gay marriage fully legal in all 50 states.
Obamacare again declared legal by SCOTUS.
Josh Duggar outed as a molester, sexual predator, pedophile, and cheater.
Pope continues to give a smackdown to conservatives.
Iran deal happens and Republicans don’t stop it.
GOP primary being led by Donald Trump, who will betray the party and hand the election to Hillary.
Flip still isn’t fooling anyone with his newest fake name.
Nooooooo! America is becoming a better place! I hate it!
Francis is a SOCIALIST, politician first, and a Pope second. He’s the fraud in the Vatican.
NOT a HOLY MAN. SHAME!
I love Francis, my kind of guy. Too bad he isn’t running. Go Bernie!
Nick’s middle initial is A. It’s actual NICK A CHUCKER
Don’t fuck with me.
So you are saying America can’t do what so many European countries can do because we have people of different races and ethnic backgrounds?
I’m sad to hear you say that, but not surprised. I hope you mature beyond that someday.
The normal response to pointing out that other countries do certain things better than we do. This is still the greatest country, but we have a lot that needs to be reworked, updated, rethought and repaired. However, as long our politicians get their clues from the $$$$$$$$$$$$ and nothing will ever get done. Call me whatever you what, but defunding Planned Parenthood and Obamacare, isn’t fixing the bridges I drive on every day.
You have that right. How many times do they pretend to vote on some crap, knowing it will fail, when they could do meaningful things. It is all show, but people are getting the picture. That is why outsiders are doing so well this election. Now, if they can out maneuver the establishment and get a conservative elected.
Yes, he took an article on power generation and is trying to turn it into a sermon for European economic socialism.
Funny how you ignore the minuscule defense budget shouldered by those successful European nations.
While polices under Obama do increase costs for every strata of consumers, the premise at the beginning of this article is somewhat bogus. Since food, gasoline, electricity, natural gas, etc are basically fixed prices not based on the user’s income, then obviously the poor pay a larger percentage for them. They pay a larger percentage for everything they purchase.
Everyone will suffer.
Obama and the Democrats can screw the poor and convince them it is the Republicans that did it to them! That is all the proof one needs to see how stupid Americans are!
We need to lower pollution. We can’t wait on cleaner energy, just because a backwards, poor state that is ALWAYS being dragged into the present doesn’t want to pay. Get your shit together SC. We’re tired of floating your ignorant ass.
Tell Dubya that, he’s so stupid he attacked the wrong 2 country’s.
Obama declared war on the US and attacked it.That’s not stupid?
The comment is, LOL
Beat me to it!
Well Texas was taken over and now we’re under martial law. I guess we don’t need to worry about Trump since Obama is going to be president for life now right?
You got any extra tinfoil? I ran out.
It ain’t Jan. 20 2017 yet. Just hang on.
So you mean that private companies are screwing over people because the president made them do it?
Totally off topic,… 43 people shot and eight died in Chicago this weekend. Maybe Obama should concentrate on the lawlessness in his hometown and worry about coal later.
Since you’re going down that road…check this bad boy out:
http://www.gannett-cdn.com/GDContent/mass-killings/index.html#frequency
Yawn…doom and gloom.
Perhaps if the fossil fools had a heart, they’d donate all the sweet federal taxpayer cash they get every year in the form of corporate welfare back to the poor folks that need it…
I look forward to a day when solar panels are on all roofs and we finally put coal out of our lives and lungs.
but but but what about scanna and their shareholders? scanna is a person man, and it has to eat too.
Lol…true dat. Corporations received the gift of humanity from the Supremes as a life form not a mere few years back.
States are finding that subsidies and net metering policies for rooftop solar panels are costing taxpayers millions and tend to benefit higher-income households, who can more afford them.Furthermore, households with solar panels are finding it more difficult to sell their homes if the lease on the solar panels has not been paid off. Prospective homeowners are worried that the solar equipment will become obsolete or will not save as much on electricity bills as advertised. Real estate agents indicate that potential home buyers lose interest in purchasing a home if they need to qualify for credit to take over solar lease payments for the next 15 to 17 years. As a result, current home owners often find that they need to buy out the remaining lease payment stream — $15,000 or $20,000 or more.
As opposed to just warming the earth more and more? I think you likely fall into the “can’t do nothing so don’t try” crowd. That’s not me.
Perhaps the system isn’t perfect (in America…on account of lobbyists, special interests and crooked politicos) but in other more enlightened lands the green energy movement is making an impact on reducing carbon at affordable prices whilst still providing the energy needed.
If we just sit on our hands and constantly complain….we solve nothing. However, I must say that S.C. excels in maintaining the willful ignorance of whichever status quo is the talk of the day.
“I’m in the wind business … I’ve lost my ass in the business.”
Host Joe Scarborough said laughing, “You’ve invested more in alternative energy than anybody else.”
“Exactly,” replied Pickens. “My issue is not political. I mean, this is an opportunity for America to advance, get on the back of cheap energy and recover your economy. It can be done, but we have no plan.”
Pickens continued, “Obama needs to go in, study it, look at it, and decide what an energy plan is, and then go forward with it. He needs to explain to his people, ‘Hey, we can get on everything green. We can get on everything renewable. Then the cost of power will go up ten times.’ So be careful when you start fooling with it. Know what you’re working with.”
T.Boone Pickens….you are a fool
I’m a doer, not a sideliner.
Pay a $1,000 a month to heat your house, fool.I will pay $100.
and while you’re saving that dough…generously subsidized by our tax dollars to the fossil fool industry I might add (the whole picking winners and losers thing)…you’re also doing your part in hastening the earth’s demise.
If only the green energy sector could enjoy that sweet, sweet federal flow of cash like the petrol boys do. Then those panels would pay for themselves after the first year and you’d get a check in the mail every month from SCANA.
Get back with me when give a shit about the 1.5 million children being aborted every year.Then I might give a shit about YOUR issue-the ‘earth’s demise’.
In fact maybe we can cut that money off from the abortion mill Planned Parenthood and buy some solar panels for them new babies that would be going home and not put in trash cans?
I’ll get back to you about that, when you get back to giving a shit about people after they’re born.
We do care about em.One third don’t have to work and have FREE health insurance and 1 out of 5 get free food.
Like I always say…if you want less gov’t, be my guest and move to Somalia or Yemen. They have very limited gov’t there.
chucker this is simple 6th grade math, if you plug in the progressive white vote, the black vote, the asian vote, the latino vote, the young vote, you will come up with Hillary as POTUS, there is no getting around it, bitch whine all you want, the election is already over, why i think you are a dumb fuck is either you are too stupid to see the math or too pussy to accept it
You don’t give a shit, YOU are the one that wants to stop kids from getting Medicaid and food stamps! You’re an evil troll.
preach
Like Harry Reid’s ‘cash flow’?
Reid has been one of [ENN’s] most prominent advocates, helping recruit the company during a 2011 trip to China and applying his political muscle on behalf of the project in Nevada. His son, a lawyer with a prominent Las Vegas firm that is representing ENN, helped it locate a 9,000-acre desert site that it is buying well below appraised value from Clark County, where Rory Reid formerly chaired the county commission.
“Well below appraised value” is a considerable understatement. The deal Rory Reid put together for the firm his dad brought to town saw ENN purchase the site for just $4.5 million — a mere fraction of separate appraisals that valued the property at $29.6 million and $38.6 million. Even with all of that, however, the project has failed to move forward as rapidly as Harry and Rory Reid would like — for the simple reason that there is currently no market in Nevada for the green energy ENN claims it could produce….
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/18142-new-probe-confirms-harry-reid-s-long-history-of-corruption
Here’s the wiki page about “The New American” for everyone to read. It’s a Bircher rag folks and not worth the bandwidth it’s printed on.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_New_American
you know it has been fools like you that have held back progress all through history, i bet “the world is flat” is on your family crest
Progress? Like 92 million people not working,80 million on Medicaid and 45 million on Food Stamps? You dumb ass new age Green Peace marxixt Obama fuckers global warming dipshits have already fucked everything up.Get the hell out of the way!
what were the figures in 2006? of course you will not quote them, i’m sure it was Obama’s fault. you brain dead red neck.
Enlighten us…what is the current US un-employment rate? Compare that to other OECD nations. Then compare that to what Dubya left us.
Ahhh…the moocher class white herring and the classic “you’re on your own” conservative response. It’s like I’m watching Fox on Fits.
REAL unemployment is about 10%.Many believe it is 20%. Work participation rate says about 35%.
i bet you are the life of the turkey shoot with all your cool facts and figures, turkey shoots are a real hoot, take your shotguns the kids, get drunk, pray to Jesus and shoot your guns, yehah.
freeking rednecks, you would be comical if you did not vote.
They vote. They vote conservative. They vote Republican. Life is good. We need more of them.
Rrrrrriiiight…
Ok folks, here are the actual stats from the US Labor Bureau…not fanciful made up ones.
FYI, current unemployment rate is 5.1%
http://data.bls.gov/timeseries/LNS14000000
stump to khunt, whatever you do this fall, DO NOT GO TO A TURKEY SHOOT!
Awwww…I was gonna wear my “Black Lives Matter” t-shirt.
Or should I wear my confederate flag t-shirt with the giant circle around it and a line through the middle?
that depend, how vapid a facial expression can you put on? if you can kinda stare out into space and mumble ” its obama’s fault” you probably get away with anything
By Douglas Ernst – The Washington Times – Tuesday, July 7, 2015
Sen. Bernie Sanders said Monday that the Obama administration is not being forthright with the American people about the real unemployment rate.
The Vermont senator told a Portland, Maine, audience of 7,500 that the Labor Department’s 5.3 percent unemployment rate is a ruse.
“There is another set of government statistics,” the independent senator said, The Daily Caller reported, “and that real unemployment if you include those people who have given up looking for work and the millions of others who are working part-time 20, 25 hours a week when they want to work full-time, when you put all of that together, real unemployment is 10.5 percent.”
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Even the socialist says you are uninformed dumb fuck!
dumb fuck, did you fact check it?
yes…just like the gov’t was covering up the secret plot about Jade Helm 15.
Just because a idiot Republicans and a Socialist say it don’t make it true.
In Nick/flip/GrandTango world, it’s always 100% unemployment.
Right, guy?
I agree with your business – you are a blow hard .
You contribute ZERO on any subject.Sorry you got so fucked up overseas.Get some help.
Let me know your poster name today, I might leave ya alone. I’m having a great day and off this weekend for the festival.
How about FAILED MARINE in honor of YOU aka ‘Deo Vindice’.You dumb fuckers are so stupid.
That is good with me
Solar and wind fail because they are not available and reliable for 24 hours a day, seven days a week.
You still need the current infrastructure to provide power when solar and wind are not available.
There are also very high costs of maintenance, none of the green stuff would be remotely salable without the big pocket of government.
The way to go for 24/7 is mini-hydro. Unfortunately, that requires a steady source of running (dam, stream, river, etc) water. When I win the lotto jackpot, there’s this little place in the North Midlands with a 20 acre pond and old style grist mill that looks like it could easily be converted to mini-hydro…
solar panels are dropping in price and becoming more efficient everyday, scanna is fighting them because they see the writing on the wall
Solar panels are a nice supplement, but what are you going to do when the sun don’t shine and at night. And the same holds forth for wind power, what you gonna do when the wind don’t blow.The answer would be affordable storage batteries for home use, they don’t exist now and if they did they would be so damn expensive no one could afford them.Maybe one day they will come.
At best, during our lifetime, solar and wind power will be a supplement to distributed power, not a replacement. The power companies are not fretting over your pipe dreams. I wish it would happen soon, each home able to generate and store their own power. But there is a lot of research and technology ahead to get to that point.
I think the idea of small nuclear reactors that the Japanese have been toying with may show some promise, and then again, it may not.
$30,000 for solar panels for a house, and they provide a fraction of need. Very STUPID idea.
Solar panel installations can cost less than $10,000 to install. You’re quoting a high number because it suits your argument. You are a dishonest person.
BULLSHIT…Why do think Solyndra went bankrupt so quick, despite millions and millions of dollars Obama pissed away to them?
Where do you get a complete system for $ 10,000 ? I’m talking panels, batteries, switch gear enough to run a house , the whole thing to go off grid ? I can’t get much below the $30,000 mentioned above. $10,000 with a like expectance of 17 to 20 years would be a bargain. The other , not so much.
Solar panels and wind turbines are not the panacea to the energy problem. High initial cost, limited availability to the function intended, it is actually not always a supplement to your home needs, the power company pays you for the power you put on the grid.
Standalone Solar and wind power, off the grid will never, ever be a reliable source of power for anyone.
I don’t know that I would go that far , but presently you are right.
You need to google “liquid metal batteries” and think how you would install one next to your septic tank to store electricity you generate yourself 365 days a year.
Tesla is working on a system with a lithium ion battery. That technology is moving fairly fast.
Yeah, being off the grid and being self-sustaining with your own power would require batteries that are not available now. For the average residential power customer, a solar array with a connection to feed back into the grid would probably be sufficient.
I realized after searching the internet that I was not that knowledgeable about current and projected future technologies.
Sounds like you have been doing some checking for living ‘off the grid.’
I don’t see any solar arrays where I live, It must still be expensive will a long term payback.
We do away with coal, something which will eventually blend back into the ecological background, and replace it with nuclear energy, something that will leave behind much waste that will be deadly for hundreds of thousands of years.
Makes great sense, or does it?
Other than 3-mile Island almost 40 years ago, in which NO ONE died, What the Fuck are you talking about?
Not to mention, Obama is regulating and fining Nuclear Reactor builders so harshly, it’s running WAY over budget, and not cost effective.
It’s ignorant fucking cliches like you, who vote, and fuck up our nation, that are the BIG problem. Educate yourself, or STFU.
Vice President Joe Biden believes life begins “at the moment of conception.”
“I’m prepared to accept that at the moment of conception there’s human life and being,” Biden said, during an interview with Father Matt Malone, S.J. of “America Media.”
Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2015/09/22/biden-life-begins-at-conception-video/#ixzz3mf9eENB3
Democrats are so desperate AND stupid, Biden says he is pro-life and THEN sanctions infanticide and murder!
Sounds fine to me. I’ve ordered people to kill babies before, not really that big of a deal.
I didn’t even bring up the Fukushima style disasters which hang over our heads like the Sword of Damocles, dick breath.
Current technology in use in this country produces shitloads of nuclear waste which has to be properly “stored” to contain the hazards. You are talking about waste that will be deadly for hundreds of thousands of years. Does anyone know or believe who or what will be keeping check on those containers even 200 years from now to be sure they haven’t developed leaks?
“something which will eventually blend back into the ecological background”
Coal is one of the reasons we have mercury content in some ocean fish. Yeah, that works out great for the environment and humanity now doesn’t it?
Running from who you are, and what you’ve done.
Sniffin’ the Squirrel tail.
Sorry to inform you ….but you need to ask yourself how Coal will be used to produce Carbon Nano-tube products via 3D printing instead of being burned to generate electricity. Its far more valuable as a building commodity instead of a fuel source.
I would like nothing better than the solar panel route. But until it is perfected more than the present we need the fossil fuels. Why can’t you libs understand you can’t get the cart before the horse ?
This OBAMA and OBAMA only. He’s ratcheted up the jobless numbers and when you Strangle Coal, our energy cost have SKYROCKETED. Just like to abysmal Mid-East policy shot gas prices up for almost 7 years of Obama.
Why the Fuck are you running interference for him…???
Republicans DID NOT do this to the people of this country. The GOP did the opposite, and energy was low cost, almost all of Bush’s 8 years, and jobs were plentiful and salaries rose.
If the GOP would have you would have done what Obama has done to the masses and our economy, you would bludgeon them…
Quit sucking Obama”s dick, you worthless lying liberal piece of shit.
are you one of the tin foil hat crowd that believes the great recession was a hoax?
You are replying to a former user of this site that went by GrandTango/BigT. Always made post after post filed with @$!$!@$$@@$!@ symbols because he was too scared to cuss on a register account. No that he’s hiding behind anonymous accounts it looks like cussing is fair game. Don’t bother replying to an obvious troll. Someone going by a user name of “Why R U running cover for Obam” doesn’t have a lot of smarts to begin with.
Coal is one of the dirtiest fuels we consume, both in how we mine it and how we burn it. There is so much environmental damage done by it, far beyond even worrying about global warming. It is a primitive fuel that needs to be left by the wayside as humanity evolves and improves.
so…how bout that story out of texas where wind turbines produced
electricity at negative prices. they paid people to consume it.
Sir, you can’t bring facts and real world examples in here, it messes with the echo effect.
Let’s be fair here. That negative price arose largely due to Texas having practically no electrical grid connections outside of Texas. The only place that wind power could be sold was in-state.
When demand is way down at night, and the wind is blowing hard, a negative price is the only way the ERCOT real-time market is going to take it off your hands. Of course, the $23/MWHr tax credit for wind producers takes away some of the sting.
Obama all but outlawed coal. It was a LARGE portion of our energy source. When the price of using coal artificially spiked, the people got fucked by Obama’s callous stupidity.
You fucking uneducated, simple-minded leftwing robot. Go educate yourself before you you run your mouth.
Coal mines still operate, they sell a lot to China now since the Chinese government doesn’t give a shit about what pollutants its citizens are breathing, drinking, eating, or anything else.
Fox news allowed only ! LOL
Was the decision to expand the nuclear plant in Monticello done because of Obama or just to justify higher rates indefinitely? I’m pretty sure I heard that SCE&G had raised its rates 25% over 5 years to pay for overages on the building of the two new reactors.
Well, after all, SCE&G has LOBBYIST to REPRESENT them. The public and tax payers have NO REPRESENTATIVES, or SENATORS to REPRESENT them!!!
Follow the MONEY!
TERM LIMITS!!!
“SCREW the PUBLIC! WE need our graft, corruption, free travel, salary and benefits. These lobbyist give us money so we can run ads, send mailings to make promises;-) to buy (win) your votes! We will throw a few crumbs your way, you will forget by the next election anyway. The taxpayer can continue to pay more, they need to learn to bow to us, the ruling class. You’ll fall in line next election, we will make promises, sell you a bill of goods and you know you need us (the ruling class/hierarchy), besides, if you vote us out we will just get our buds to appoint us to a great Govt. position, or lobbyist job and continue on the tax payers dime and up our own retirement. So, Screw you!
In early 2014 a study commissioned by “Big Coal” found that poor people paid a disproportionately high percentage of their incomes on energy costs
NO SHIT !!!
I bet if they did another study, they would find poor people spend a higher percentage of their income on FOOD and TRANSPORTATION, and just about any damn thing else except yachts.
When I’m elected we’re going to really get back to using coal. It’s a no brainer. Really!! A no brainer!!! #DonaldTrumpMakeAmericaDirty
All you conservative Christian republicans that don’t like the USA can leave my country anytime !
NEWS FLASH: The poor pay a disproportionate amount of their income on ANYTHING they buy.
Apropos that, the poor would pay a disproportionate amount of their income on any national sales tax.
Incredible survey results finds that %100 of all poor people are poor.
That is the problem with any spending data on the poor. It’s always bad because they choose the do their study on the poor who are after all poor. In good times the poor are still poor, it’s just a smaller group. Any study on sick people will find an amazing result. They are all sick.
A study on the lowest quintile would not have the same biases.
So Obama has the right to artificially Jack up the poor, while that lazy piece of shit has never worked in his life…yet he’s wasted $9 Trillion…that we have to pay back…
You may be the most Ignorant Motherfucker on the face of the earth.
If stupidity was a crime, they’d put your stupid ass in GITMO, and run that panty raid on you, so the stupid fucking liberals could call it torture…
you Christian conservatives sure do talk purty
Fuck you, you ignorant piece of shit. You’re the lowest life bastard on the face of the earth. If you wanted to be treated like Sunday School, you would not swim in the septic tank known as the Democrat Party, and swill shit granules all day.
It’s my country. You’re destroying it. You need the pissed slapped out of you. Words should be the least of your problem,
Oh damn, you go mamatiger! That’s some salty popcorn from this little baby right here!
Do you how fucking lame and stupid you look when you try to answer, using your own mind as a resource?
GrandTango is just excited he got rid of the nanny software on his computer. Now his Mom won’t spank him for cussing.
It’s about time for the article on the weekly Bloomberg Consumer Confidence Index. It went up sharply, wiping out declines for the, last month. It was the largest increase in three months.
did some checking on the interweb, at today’s prices and current sce&g rate of charging kwh, solar panels pay for themselves in about 8 years and you get returns on your investment for the next 17 years proportionate to your original investment, oh and this is based on American made solar panels the ones that create American jobs.
Energy: Another industry TOTALLY Fucked up after 2008—But Obama had NOTHING to do with it..
All the power, no responsibility…that’s the Democrat Party’s motto…
And Bourgeois Bastards like FITSNews spread the deceit, like the faithful little drones they are…
Glad you realize Bush is to blame, may be hope for ya after all.
My electric bill has increased 40% since 2008. Gas, for most of the last 7 years has bee $1.50 more per gallon than it was for all but 6 months of Bush’s 8 years. Under Obama, my health insurance premium has double, and EVERY doctor visit me and my family had this year, and part of 2014, has been paid fully out of pocket, because of Obamacare costs.
Under Bush the TRUE unemployment rate was as low as 4.5% and salaries rose. And let’s not even begin on Race Relations, and a government that hates a majority of its people.
The quality of life has declined SUBSTANTIALLY under Obama, compared to Bush. Either you’re a FUCKING Dumbass, too stupid to know reality. Or you are a slimy little Fucking dipshit liar.
Spread your ignorance to Stupid Fucks, like you, who believe it…but you better GTGO my face, you smarmy little bastard.
Just the facts. Bush destroyed America. We’re trying to bring it back and all ya want to do whine and complain and nothing else.
You’re trying to bring the USSR back, and place it in America.
The Bush-Blame Bullshit is easy to sell to ignorant motherfuckers like you. And you prove it works.
You nailed it, the USSR is a better place than a republican run USA.
When are you leaving for there? Need help packing.
America sure cannot afford your level of ignorance, after 8 years of Obama, and Democrat Party rule, and failure.
You sound like Smirks, I knew you were around here! LMAO!!!!!!!
You realize if your power bill went up, you are either using more power or a rate increased was approved by the Public Service Commission which is run by REPUBLICANS. So either way you are a victim of Republicans.
When Obama waged war on coal, it drove up drastically the price of our most-abundant energy source. That’s not the PSC’s fault or the GOP’s.
Vowing to put coal out of business was an IGNORANT move by Obama, but he does not care if American working families suffer. As long as white people struggle, and his-lazy socialist ass, is well fed and rich, he says fuck you. And there are a substantial number of callous Democrats as fucking hateful, and stupid as he is.
Gotta bring facts to this discussion: http://www.infomine.com/investment/metal-prices/coal/5-year/
I think it’s time to bring RICO Act suits against SCANNA/SCE&G. Even their lawyers are engaged in criminal conduct.
Too many people are bought in our fair state so the feds would have to crack down on them.
SCANA and SCE&G is a cartel and the so-called “Public Service Commission” (what an oxymoron) is in bed with these goons and should all be fired. I don’t know why this group of industry suck-ups even exists except to give cover to the LEGISLATURE and the “GOVERNOR” who want to be insulated from this monopolistic evil cartel run by out-of-state investors and multi-million dollar executives. The “Public” Service Commission members need to be investigated and the legislation giving SCANA/SCE&G carte blanche to rip off the public to their hearts content rescinded. Put another way, once this f’ing nuclear plant is built, are the RATEPAYERS going to get a REDUCTION in their rates back to where rates were before THEY paid to build that boondoggle? If my legislators don’t do something about this then I for one am going to vote for whoever is running against them. Enough already!!
Reading some of the psychotic musings of the Republican commenters here reminds me why so many moderates have turned away from the party, very refreshing.
Moderates delivered us John McCain and Mitt Romney. No thanks.
Moderates won’t be delivering you anything anymore, not your candidates, and definitely not your elections. Don’t worry, Trump will show you soon.
Good point Nick. That’s why Jeb, Christie or any other moderate has no chance in 2016. Our country cannot afford a Democrat, and the American people cannot afford to lose, or we lose our nation.
I also agree, I’m glad we three totally different people can agree on what’s right. Wink wink! LMAO!!!!!!!!
Now come over here Tango and gimme some luvin!
Rocky STOP! You are skewing all of my dashboard generated data with all of these ‘flip’ avatars.
Not I Nick A Chucker
oh my God, Hillary is gonna win and i’m gonna have to hear “the sky is falling” for another 8 years
That’s why I started up my own business. I’m going to be rich!
You told us she’d win in 2008, too, Dumbass.
How’d that work out for ya’?…(:
and you said romney was gonna win by a landslide, and i knew she was going to lose by the south carolina primary
He was promising President Perry long before Romney.
Walker, the real American. He’s gonna take it all. I remember that.
Hillary Clinton faces “mounting health issues” — and she’s secretly worried that she’s too sick to run for president, according to a new book.
The 67-year-old Democratic front-runner has been “frequently plagued” by “blinding headaches” and a series of strokes over the course of the campaign which have left her second-guessing her chances of winning in 2016, says the upcoming book “Unlikeable — The Problem with Hillary.”
http://nypost.com/2015/09/22/hillary-is-dealing-with-mounting-health-issues-new-book-claims/
Bill can be the power behind the throne, like Nancy.
Look at the 2014 Election results, and the (lack of) popularity of Hillary Clinton. It shows that cheating, race-motivated, multi-voters are likely what elected Obama in 2012…and your party better find an equally-racially hateful candidate, or your are screwed…
That is what I find VERY refreshing to
Aside from that: You seem to have a hard time accepting the reality of who, and what, you are, as it manifests….
That $100 dollar bill is from the last century. Robert Rubin? It’s probably worthless now.
Grand Tango’s Motto – Type loudly while $uc@&#& a big…….
So, Scott and Murkowski are worried that an increase in energy prices will hurt the poor?
Both are sponsors of bills in the Senate that would allow drilling for oil off the South Carolina coast, putting at risk thousands of low-income jobs in the tourism industry. The impact on such jobs on the Gulf Coast over the last five years has seen billions of dollars in losses due to the Deepwater Horizon spill 45 miles off-shore. Yet Scott and Murkowski would allow drilling within three miles of our beaches.
“When shit becomes valuable, the poor shall be born without ass holes.”
— 2nd Fecalonians 2:5
Why do you bend over for FITSNews and Obama, and beg them to ream out your stupid ass, on a daily basis?
Why do you imagine that everyone who is not establishment Republican (read treasonous liberals) is an 0bama supporter?
The big, rich and powerful use more power, so the rest of US pay more. This is their economy, something we just get a piece of.