U.S. SUPREME COURT TIPS ITS HAND AGAIN ON GAY MARRIAGE
|| By FITSNEWS || Gay marriage is coming to the “Heart of Dixie.” Whether Alabama’s leaders like it or not …
In a reprise of the battle that played out in South Carolina late last year, U.S. district judge Callie Granade ruled last month that Alabama’s ban on gay marriage was unconstitutional. Granade’s ruling sparked an uproar – with social conservative “Republican” leaders expressing outrage and one Democrat threatening to expose her GOP rivals (literally) for their hypocrisy on the issue.
Drama, drama, drama …
Anyway, Alabama attorney general “Big” Luther Strange sought to block the implementation of Granade’s ruling – arguing that the U.S. Supreme Court would soon be ruling on the constitutionality of state marriage bans (seeking to resolve a dispute between the fourth and sixth district courts of appeal).
Which it is …
But the court – as it did in the South Carolina case – said “nope,” once again signaling its likely inclination to rule against gay marriage bans at the state level.
Last July, the U.S. fourth circuit court of appeals in Richmond, Virginia struck down Virginia’s gay marriage ban – a decision the U.S. Supreme Court refused to overturn. However a sixth circuit ruling has upheld a state’s right to define marriage as it sees fit.
That’s the position adopted by Roy Moore – chief justice of the Alabama Supreme Court – who moved to block the issuance of gay marriage licenses in the aftermath of the ruling.
“It’s my duty to speak up when I see the jurisdiction of our courts being intruded by unlawful federal authority,” Moore said this week.
The high court doesn’t see it that way, though … and for that matter, neither do we.
This website’s views on marriage have been made abundantly clear: No government – local, state or federal – should be able to ban (or compel) marriage: Gay, straight or plural. That’s because marriage isn’t a government institution, it’s a religious one – meaning the question should be left to individual congregations. As for civil unions, we believe the equal protection clause of the Fourteenth Amendment compels government to acknowledge homosexual, heterosexual or plural unions.
Government needs to do everybody a favor and just get out of the marriage debate …
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Governor Wallace would be proud.
Blacks in the 1960’s wouldn’t have put up with perverted marriage for a minute.
It would have made MLK sic.
Aren’t there rumors about MLK being a pervert himself, i.e. infidelities?
What a racist comment.Shame on you.This is Black History Month.
Incidentally the shortest month of the year. Go figure.
Add in MLK weekend and Kwanza and it evens out.
Alabama … Making South Carolina look smart since 1819.
What? I don’t see any community of rocket scientists anywhere in SC. Shall we discuss college football? SC wishes it had half the academic accomplishments of Alabama. lol
Did any of those “rocket scientists” play college football in AL?
We could talk about what Gamecock’s football has accomplished………………………………..
OK, done.
Gee, last time I checked, Clemson was a higher ranked public college than any public college in Alabama. And, I’m pretty sure our top private school outranks their top private school.
debatable.
Marriage is strictly a governmental institution. You can go get married in every church in the state, but you are not officially married until you have a official and governmentally approved marriage license. Plus, marriage contracts predate any western religion practiced in South Carolina. In any case, glad you bumpkins in the south are getting dragged into the present, once again. Doesn’t that shit get tired?
what if i wanted to get married, so were not living in sin in the eyes of god, but i didnt actually want to be legally married because if things dont work out i dont want to lose my hosue
Then you might want to advocate against common law marriages.
I believe marriage requires neither government nor religion, it is an individual right. That being said, unless you have government recognition you can be denied rights and privileges guaranteed by law to married persons. If you’re cool with that, though, go for it.
You are too stupid to marry. Don’t reproduce, please.
You would go to a lawyer and get a prenuptial agreement.
I always wondered how those homophobes could be against marriage equality when they don’t even understand how marriage works legally. Are they trying to be a walking, talking knuckle dragging stereotype?
Yeah. Can’t wait until it is legal to marry your dog ,daughter or father.
It is coming, don’t worry.
Oh lord, the stupid is very strong with this one.
marry your dog
Dogs can’t consent.
daughter or father.
There are plenty of grounds government has to reject incestuous marriages. Note, however, that Alabama rednecks still bump uglies with their family members in absence of marriage.
“Dogs can’t consent.”
Smirks, the champion of a dog’s right to consent, but people…well…meh, only now & then when he thinks it’s subject appropriate.
the champion of a dog’s right to consent
I pretty much stated quite the opposite. Did you pass the 3rd grade?
I’m talking the bigger picture genius. You’re the one always ranting on about gov’t removal of consent on a variety of topics.
Wow, some things require consent, others don’t. What a hard concept.
lol…as smart as you are sometime you are incredibly dumb others.
“Consistency” my friend, try it sometime.
Marriage is a construct built entirely around consent. Many things require consent of some form, and to varying degrees. Others don’t. Some things one cannot even consent to.
Consistency? The world isn’t black and white, absent of nuance. That would be an actual “bizarro world.”
“Consistency? The world isn’t black and white, absent of nuance. ”
The world doesn’t have to be “black & white” for you to have consistent principles. It only requires a commitment to being principled.
I’m not referring to “marriage” btw, I’m referring your inability to be consistent across all topics.
So why don’t you give us a specific example of this inconsistency, so we can judge for ourselves..
Oh Christ, go back through thousands of pages of Smirks commentary and its here. I’m not doing your work for you.
But hang out, I’m going to start pointing it out for while.
look at common law marriage. these folks consent to hold themselves out as man and woman. after a certain number of years, this de facto arrangement becomes a “legal” or arrangement.
No, no he did not.
In Alabama you can divorce your wife but she is still your sister.
I agree !00%. What are your views on a Gay couple going to a Southern Baptist minister and wanting his services?
Friend…the word upon the avenue is that we may be receivin’ ‘lectricity and the horse drawn cart afore too long. Maybe even gas lit street lamps and some new fangled thing the apothecaries are calling a measle tonic elixer that is sure to cure what ails ya.
Progress sho nuff.
Plural marriage?
I wish Mr. & Mrs. Folks and T-Rav a happy and fruitful life together.
Plural marriage should require consent from all parties, if everyone consents there shouldn’t be a problem. People have had multiple spouses throughout history, even in the context of Biblical times. What’s the problem?
I will say that our current laws are not structured to deal with plural marriages, though, that would have to be addressed. The government most certainly shouldn’t be busting down doors and arresting people for it though, unless something shady was going on.
We had slavery throughout time, also. Like polygamy it was not consensual.
Like polygamy it was not consensual.
lol wut?
Marriages were often arranged by the families. The bride often had no say. There a strong correlation between societies that have polygamy and the oppression of women, child marriages and sexual abuse of women and children.
Even in the United States.
Google Warren Jeffs.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Jeffs
Thats exactly why every religion needs to be taken with a grain of salt, the women that had been forced into these atrocities called marriages did it for one reason..religion.
Polygamy and marriage is older than religion. No where in the Bible is marriage a religious ceremony. Never did a priest or rabbi perform a wedding and there are many weddings in the Bible. That was a Catholic invention.
That is one of the flaws in Fits argument.
That is just the crack pipe talking to ya. Mix in an ice cold 40 of malt liquor and Jesus will save ya!
Arranged marriages and plural marriages are two different things, man. Arranged marriages I do believe are wrong.
However, polygamy is not in and of itself non-consensual. Not even in the Bible. Genesis 16:1-3? Pretty sure the bride had a say in that one, bro. Also, are we to assume the women who served as various kings’ wives or concubines didn’t consent? Because that would tarnish some of the biggest Biblical figures for sure.
Plural marriage? Marriages. Not too hard.
If you google it, you will see they are both in use. If three or more marry in one ceremony, singular is use. In other cases both are used. Of course, if you researched, you could have discovered this yourself.
Exactly…If the people are forced by a leftwing government to recognize anyone calling themselves married…I cannot wait to see where the liberal creeps and weirdos go with it…
LMAO…get ready for some freaks to come out the woodwork…LMAO…
I like gay sex, but only after gay marriage. My anal virginity means too much to just give it away without commitment.
You can always find the closeted homophobes by walking into a discussion about gay marriage, because they’ll be the first ones talking about gay sex. They can’t not talk about it, like it’s the only thing on their minds.
Is that why you’re here?
I’m here because pissing you off amuses me. :)
I’m very upset. How could you tell?
Gay marriage is all about sexual deviance.
Damned Tango is a case in point – continually talking about blowing and sucking off Obama, getting fucked in the ass… he’s explored every homosexual position, every exchange of bodily fluids, every anal penetration, every perspective that he can manipulate in text…
Someone should compile a contiguous list of his messages, and see what percentage contains some reference to dicks, ass, and homosexuals. (including those obscured with $pec!al ch@r@cters).
Morning, Flip.
This is where the homophobes come out and have internet fights. Right here.
No.This is where the supporters of perverted marriage come out and show why Christian and moral families lock their doors and hide their children when the LGBT freak show comes to a town near you.
You’re afraid gays and lesbians are going to fuck your Christian family?
No.The dog and my cow in the backyard.
No, your cousin Billy Bob has the cow trained to back up to the stump next to your house.
Did they ever happen to reveal the political party of the fellow who repeatedly had sex with a horse? May have been clergy. Just sayin’
lol…difference is Republicans think that is perversion and Democrats believe such behavior should be considered normal.
You dance in the street w/ glee when you are allowed to change the definition of marriage for a small leftwing special interest group, whose identity rests in its sex habits…
Why do you cower when one of yours, like Jerry Sandusky or the homosexuals who posed as priests, manifest?
You dance in the street w/ glee when you are allowed to change the definition of marriage
No, that’s what you did when your types changed the definition of marriage by amending the state constitution to say something it didn’t before.
We INVENTED it…and WE own it…it’s your Leftwing, Corrupt Judges stealing our institutions, so you can make them all as FILTHY as you are…
Actually, it’s Federal Courts that are enforcing the US Constitution and it’s protections to individual rights – something I would think you support. But I guess not.
They are interpreting the Constitution based on the pop culture whim of Leftwing political lobbyists who heavily contribute to the Democrat Party……
You may get it passed, but we’ll figure out a way to thwart you – and the the degenerates you dance for – in the end…We always do… (: …
No, they’re interpreting the Constitution based on equal protection under the Bill of Rights. It has nothing to do with pop culture – if that were the case than civil rights and inter-racial marriage were just fads of the 60s. That’s not the case. Look, I’m busy today, I gotta go. I don’t have time to kick your @$$ again today like yesterday. But if I get done early I’ll check back.
How many times a day can you kick his ass and he just keeps coming back for more, although you know its getting to him as he now has to sign in as others to agree with his own comments. Hes Tina and you are Ike.
We INVENTED it…and WE own it…
lol… Sure thing dude.
He sounds rather like a toddler pitching a fit when he didn’t get his way, doesn’t he?
The thing you have to remember is, the bell curve of intelligence is real.
Half of the population is in the double digits.
Among those, arranged by height, Damned Tango is bringing up the rear.
He doesn’t possess the mental energy to meet the challenge of perceiving what’s in his own best interest.
Grandpa GT said the same thing about interracial marriage.
Who is we? What did you invent, and What do you own?
STFU you ignorant, leftwing lemming Dumb@$$…you would not know if I told your Stupid @$$…
Fact challenged (i.e. liar) as usual.
This really isn’t about marriage. It’s about Alabama (and SC, GA, MS, LA and AR) wanting to say that the citizens of the State, can pass laws based on what they want, and that those laws cannot be trumped by the US Constitution. It’s the same backwards argument that we had to settle by burning Columbia and Atlanta to the ground over slavery, had to settle with the deployment of the 101st to Arkansas, the US Army to MS and AL for civil rights, and who knows, maybe we’ll need to deploy the 4th Infantry out of Savannah. It’s a complete BS argument. According to the “states rights” argument, if 51% of SC residents voted to re-institute slavery – the US Constiution could not override that. If SC wanted to vote to outlaw inter-racial marriage – they could. If they voted to re-institute school segregation, separate bathrooms for African Americans and Hispanics, they could. The truth is the residents of states cannot, through state-wide referrendum, overright the liberties and freedoms of the individual that are protected by the US Constitution. That has been the corner stone of our Constitution since day one. Oddly. the Tea Party of Alabama, who professes to want to protect the Constitution from the evel black boggyman in the White House, suddenly want to usurpe the Constitution because they don’t like it being for everyone. I say – Nuke ‘Em. We shouldn’t have to back there again. Just Nuke ‘Em.
You’re Full of S#!t…you want to redefine an institution that others established based on your bedroom habits.
You can MARRY anyone you want, w/o the government sanctioning it…this is just an Bully attempt by a leftwing political lobby for the transition of a tradition that is too wholesome to fit w/ your corrupt and decadent lifestyle…..
Apparently you cannot MARRY anyone you want in Alabama, unless it’s someone of the opposite sex. So if you’re a same-sex couple, in Alabama (and of course you wish it was still true in SC) – you’re not afforded that universal right. That’s against the US Constitution. Period. Marriage is a civil union that impacts legal standing in a variety of venues. Therefore, it does require sanction by the government in order to be afforded access to those civil rights and protections under the law.
Slippery slope.What stops perverted leftist judges from allowing people to marry their pets,children or their cell phone?
Pets are not afforded protection under the constitution, nor are cell phones. WV has been marrying children and parents for years.
What stops perverted leftist judges from allowing people to marry their pets,children or their cell phone?
Inability to consent.
And, there it is. The inevitable moronic “marrying pets” argument. So predictable.
Comparing the struggles of blacks and the sins of slavery with the willful and perverted,sexually deviant lifestyles of 1% of our population, a majority with mental illness, is really hilarious.
Wasn’t too long ago they were spreading AIDS like the common cold.
Let em get married however please don’t compare the tragedy’s inflicted on the American Indian and blacks with the LGBT movement.
African-Americans should be P!$$#d off as H#!!, if they have any pride…
For Gays to compare themselves w/ the long-ago struggles of poor people in this country…is ludicrous…
I know I’m going insane– but I actually agree with GT on this one issue. I’ll start taking my meds again– I promise.
No offense…But I don’t really give a S#!t if you agree w/ me or not.
But you take big risk by not attacking me w/ viscous hatred… FITS, and his readers march in lockstep w/ the winds of pop culture…and the penalty is HARSH for those not in-line w/ the state’s thought dictates…
Promoting gay marriage is just another way to say “How Liberal Can I Be, because everyone will like me for it” ….And failing to march like a lemming is dangerous under the rule of Obama…
viscous hatred…
Does this have something to do with that “slippery slope” you’re always talking about?
“slippery slope”
I’m shocked that you’ve resorted to such foul, racial slurs.
That is the only thing I agree with you on– is that you can’t compare the struggles of African-Americans with those of the Gays/Lesbians or whatever. On all other issues I think you an idiot. I do have a question –If you were stranded on a desert island with Nancy Pelosi and Ted Cruz– which one do you “pair up” with?
http://xkcd.com/1431/
“No comparison.”
Yes there is a comparison. Slavery, the segretation laws – violated the civil rights of a particular subset of the population. Denial of same-sex couples the right to marry also violates the civil rights of a particular subset of the population. Sorry, you are wrong. No soup for you.
False analogy…one cannot change ones color but one certainly can decide where to insert one’ s genitalia…The most persecuted Americans today are ex-gays who receive merciless abuse from the so-called “gay” community. ..I was told this by an acquaintance who sadly experienced this personally…
Tell it to Michael Jackson – he changed his color.
Not really.
Oh, so that’s why you wanted to fire Lorenzo Ward. You wanted a great Republican and faithful Methodist like Jerry Sandusky to coach SC’s defense. Now we get it. Why didn’t you say so?
P.S. Have you packed your bags for Bama yet? LOL!
I’m like MOST of Gamecock Nation. I want what is BEST for SC…I want Ward GONE…and his assts.
You’re the Dumb@$$ who will not admit you want him, and them, to stay….
He ain’t leaving. And let’s pass some more on 3rd down when we are up double digits with less than 7 minutes to go.
so you’re blaming Spurrier. I KNEW it. All liberals think EXACTLY like, no matter how ignorant. LMAO.
You think the D is fine. Hahahaha…Just like MoRon and The State newspaper.
No wonder you don’t express much sentiment. It reveals who, and what, you are.
Sic: I hate to burst your bubble, but your statement that “marriage isn’t a government institution, it’s a religious one…” is patently false. Marriage is a legal contract entered into under conditions defined by the state. My wife and I have been married for 37 years and never set foot in a church and belong to no religious denomination. We were married by a judge at City Hall after obtaining a license from the state. We have a certificate from the state verifying our marriage. Religion had nothing to do with it.
Religion had nothing to do with it.
It never has, which is why even notary publics can marry people.
How did you become a Christ denier and church hater? Mommy run off with the preacher?
I reached the age of reason, much like George Carlin.
Try *reasoning* without drugs or a dick up your ass.Might change your mind.
Try *reasoning* without drugs or a dick up your ass.
Did that help you?
That settles it..it must be grandasshatliarcowardwithnobog T. The anal sex obsession gives it away. Poor t has to sign in as others to get any attention he can..dude you need a life, or to end yours..i can bet what choice most hope that you make.
You sound like you speak from experience.
How did you become such an attention starved imbecile? Did your momma drop you from the top step of the mobile home?
Congratulations-sounds like living a ‘souless’ life has been good to you.
who is this dick that keeps changing his name and throwing out troll comments…is it grandasshatwithnoblogandaliar, is it fits? or just a troll who needs attention like our little liar and coward T?
It’s Flip. He got pissed because FITS banned him for inappropriate comments, so now he comes on and steals peoples handles or makes up new dumb ones. He’s been a little quiet because he was up in Ohio last week for union meetings.
Flip died.He was in the car Bruce Jenner hit from behind.
Or something from behind. But Flip lives in Ohio – he can marry Bruce Jenner there.
He got pissed because FITS banned him for inappropriate comments
Was he actually banned? Doesn’t seem like something FITS would do. I figured it’s just him learning how to troll better, even if he still completely sucks at it.
I dunno – he was all bent I recall – saying he couldn’t post – got gigged for something. Then he started the fake Smirks and Rocky’s Gay Lover.
Has religion has been good for you? Congratulations to you, but It didn’t help your spelling.
Let’s be honest: Most homosexuals don’t get into the lifestyle for a monogamous (would-be married) secure realtionship…
When you consider that the gays make up less than 3%…and a small fraction will “marry” from that group…this will have very little practical effect.
It is merely a power play to tear down the institutions that make us strong and allow us to express our morality, separate from the degenerate ….
And like most character-flawed (leftwing) people…their actions will screw them in the end…The homosexual community will likely be hit w/ some unexpected consequence (like alimony or child support) as all ill-intentioned people are….that they are ill-equipped to answer to…
Just give it some time, and gays’ll be trying to rescind this order from their leftwing judiciary..and they will likely claim some sort of discrimination because they got their way….
Most of them, like a majority of the liberal community, will not be able to handle the responsibility of marriage and family…
Your an idiot. I’ve know same-sex couples my whole life. The most certainly do enter into long-term monogamous relationships. Get your head out of your @$$ and grow up. Whether they make up 3% of the population, or 30%, it doesn’t matter. You cannot deny them civil rights that others have. Now I’ve got to go.
…right to hell
I’ll keep your seat for ya’ – Flip.
Conventional, and lasting marriage among homosexuals is VERY rare.
The numbers demonstrate you’re a fairly insignificant portion of the population…and your behavior patterns render you even less a factor, as far a conformity….
That’s just the truth…and even the courts cannot overturn that reality… (;
Conventional, and lasting marriage among homosexuals is VERY rare.
So are straight marriages anymore. We should ban those marriages too. We could protect the sanctity of marriage by not letting anyone get married, that way there would be no more failed marriages. Brilliant idea!
“Conventional, and lasting marriage among heterosexuals is VERY rare”
Fixed that for you.
if the marriage is rare and doesn’t last, what is your complaint?
This is grandstanding for the Democrat Party…READ my comment, Dumb@$$…
why not answer the question?
He cant..pretty simple but the Gods honest answer he can’t.
I love being in long lasting relationships.
State controlled schools using this perverted gay marriage agenda to break down other moral cultural ‘norms’ that keep our children mentally and physically healthy-like teaching in elementary school that polygamy, pedophilia and beastiality is the NEW ‘norm.
That slippey slope-abortion/infanticide/euthenasia….alcohol/pot/crack/heroin etc….
how could it be the NEW ‘norm if it’s so rare and doesn’t last?
State controlled schools already brainwash children that abortion is fun and America is evil. Gives em another social topic to destroy their little minds and hide the act that they are failing to educate this generation of children.
America might be evil, but where does it say that abortion is fun?
Source?
Hahahaha its like asking my dog to work on an algebra question..you will be waiting a long time..oh wait i meant forever for that “source”
I challenge you to prove just ONE instance where any school is teaching that polygamy, pedophilia or bestiality is ok. Just ONE example or if you are a true christian you will
1: show proof
2: admit you lied, cannot be trusted to speak the truth and are actually a life size asshole.
Who would have thunk we would have state controlled schools having children recite Muslim prayers? It is happening.
Won’t be long before the liberal DOE pushes its agenda of perversion into the public schools-it already has.
So i guess you cant prove even one instance ….Go figure. Im shocked, shocked i say. Guess the answer is….#2!
Moral relativism demands that we have no moral imperatives…other than welfare, Affirmative Action and Global Warming belief…
Anything else, especially perversion, goes…Are you brain dead or or just an extreme Dumb@$$???
You prove my point daily..being a PROVEN liar and coward is all you really got.
STFU you Vapid cretin. You NEVER contribute anything but the same old Stupid and trite Bull-S#!t…If the DNC and MSNBC did not feed you…you’d starve to death…
You would not know an original thought if it they aborted it from your @$$hole…
Now have a Blessed Day…. (:
All you do daily is prove my points asshat. Thanks.
Great post. +10
You are correct. Perverted marriage is being used to eliminate the moral and cultural foundations that this country was founded on and which for a couple of centuries has been the ‘glue’ that has shaped and held together our families and communities.
The children/grandchildren will suffer from being indoctrinated with the evil of same- sex marriage.
Like slavery & segregation, marriage bans are a part of our “cultural foundation” that needed to be eliminated.
Bwahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Kiss me!
Fantastic.
Thus the criminalization of Christianity in America continues…mark my words…government minders will soon infiltrate worship services and sanction and prosecute pastors who preach traditional biblical views of marriage…..jail time to pastors who refuse to “marry” homosexuals…
Amazing you can type while wearing a straight jacket..how do you do it?
Heard of the Houston mayor who demanded sermon notes? No so crazy…
with that logic i guess because Mark Foley liked sex with kids in bathrooms all members of the GOP are gay pedophiles? yeah great logic
Christianity will disappear into history like thousands of other past religions. Somebody will come up with something stupider for a future generation of ignorant marks.
Ignorant much?
words marked.
Now, how long before I can come back and tell you that you were full of shit?