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Is Ebola Coming To America?

OUTBREAK “NOT IN THE CARDS,” GOVERNMENT SAYS A deadly outbreak of Ebola in West Africa has sparked fears of a global pandemic – although the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says an outbreak of the virus is “not in the cards” for the United…

OUTBREAK “NOT IN THE CARDS,” GOVERNMENT SAYS

A deadly outbreak of Ebola in West Africa has sparked fears of a global pandemic – although the head of the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) says an outbreak of the virus is “not in the cards” for the United States.

“It is not a potential of Ebola spreading widely in the U.S.,” CDC director Dr. Thomas Frieden told reporters on a conference call this week. “That is not in the cards.”

Still, the agency issued its highest level travel warning for West Africa – where the disease is raging out of control. As of July 27, more than 1,300 people have been infected with Ebola in Guinea, Sierra Leone and Liberia – with 729 of them dying from the virus.

After an incubation period ranging from two days to three weeks, Ebola victims begin experiencing nausea, vomiting, and diarrhea. Eventually their kidneys and livers begin to shut down, a process accompanied by mass internal hemorrhaging.

There is no treatment and no cure for the virus.

“This is a tragic, painful, dreadful, merciless virus,” Friedman said, adding the current outbreak was “the largest, most complex outbreak that we know of in history.”

But Friedman isn’t worried about Ebola spreading to America because “we have quarantine stations at all the major ports of entry.”

“Ebola poses little risk to the U.S. general population,” Friedman said.

That’s not stopping U.S. Rep. Alan Grayson – a Democrat from Florida – from urging precautionary measures. In a letter sent to U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry and Department of Homeland Security secretary Jeh Johnson, Grayson said all citizens of the three affected countries as well as “any foreign person who has visited one of these nations nintey days prior to arriving in the United States” should be banned from entering the United States.

Two American doctors who traveled to Africa to help fight Ebola have been stricken by the virus – with one of them possibly en route “within the next several days” to a special isolation unit at Atlanta’s Emory University Hospital.

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88 comments

Mike at the Beach August 1, 2014 at 1:56 am

Grayson is nuts (although not because of his statements here- he just is).

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 8:37 am

“Grayson is nuts (although not because of his statements here- he just is).”
Shit. He does not even hold a stick to Michele Bachmann or Steve King or Louis Gohmert.
I’d vote for him over Trey Gowdy in a heartbeat.

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Tazmaniac August 1, 2014 at 8:59 am

Until Gowdy”s constituents create a website : mycongressmanisnuts.com, he isn’t even close. Shelia Jackson Lee bows at Alan’s feet in the crazy department. Now on the other hand, Michelle…….

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 9:18 am

“Until Gowdy”s constituents create a website : ”
LOL Thanks – I am contacting my techy friends right now to get that Gowdy website going! LOL

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 1:22 pm

Never thought I’d say this but what I wouldn’t do to have Bob Inglis back . . .

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sparklecity August 1, 2014 at 5:01 pm

I started saying it the minute Gowdy got sworn in but the TEA Party types eat the peanuts out of his feces.
Inglis started coming around his last term which is what got him canned by the hard right in GSP.

SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 6:47 pm

“I started saying it the minute Gowdy got sworn in . . .”
You are 100% correct. Inglis did come around and he has been interviewed several times about what happened. I’d say he became “thoughtful and levelheaded” – and that don’t fly around here.

sparklecity August 3, 2014 at 10:46 pm

Presently, being “thoughtful and levelheaded” is a sin if you are a politician in South Carolina.

Last one I knew was Phil Sinclair and he got tired of the BS and did not seek reelection out of disgust.

This state needs about 100 Phil Sinclairs as far as I’m concerned.

Mike at the Beach August 1, 2014 at 9:33 am

Oh, we know you would, but Grayson has whole websites dedicated to his tirades and clinically weird behavior. I’m not talking policy positions, I’m talking straitjackets…

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 12:14 pm

“Oh, we know you would, . . .”
Not sure who the WE are that you think you speak for but some folks just need to get over themselves – big time.

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Mike at the Beach August 1, 2014 at 12:53 pm

Don’t go getting sensitive on me now…

SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 1:20 pm

“Don’t go getting sensitive on me now…”
Not sensitive at all just don’t appreciate smartasses . . .

Mike at the Beach August 1, 2014 at 4:05 pm

Wow, are you ever at the wrong site…

SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 4:40 pm

“Wow, are you ever at the wrong site…”
But Mikey – you’re the one that likes to sling it out but then gets all hot and bothered when someone slings it right back at you – typical, southern, white male.

Mike at the Beach August 1, 2014 at 5:25 pm

Ho-leee-wow. Take a gander over this bizarro exchange and see who looks hot and bothered. I have a hot and bothered face, but this isn’t it! It sounds like maybe that ginormous chip on your shoulder is causing you a little ass pain, maybe. If this testy series of snark from you wasn’t starting to make my head hurt I would deconstruct your silly, “typical, Southern, white male” for you, as in, typical in what ways? Educational attainment? Income? Socioeconomic background? Weight? Penis size? Just silly. Suffice to say that I probably not “typical” in whatever sense you’re implying. As I said, it’s making my head hurt, so I won’t. That’s why I finally started taking TBG’s advice in regard to TBG Rule #3. I’m not sure how you define “hot and bothered,” but I have lost a grand total of zero minutes of sleep over anything anyone’s ever said to me on here. As “they” say, living well is the best revenge. Have a good week, but I’m out! Peace.

SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 6:45 pm

Whatever. “Pompous Prick” comes to mind every time I read your posts. Namaste!

Mike at the Beach August 1, 2014 at 6:51 pm

Whatever gets your head to the pillow at night, sister!

Tazmaniac August 1, 2014 at 8:46 am

He just may be “Crazy like a Fox”. Here comes more funding to Homeland for $25 tongue depressors to check your Grandma for diseases. Meanwhile, literally back at the ranch, un-screened illegals pour over our border. Immigration is a loser for the Democrats and Republicans, and they will do anything to distract your attention until it is too late. On other topics, Grayson has demonstrated that he should be in a straight jacket.

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CorruptionInColumbia August 1, 2014 at 8:08 am

Is it coming here? You bet it is. Between the damn do-gooders who are in these countries and catching or carrying it, coming back here, and whatever other means it is using to get here, we’re going to see it. In another act of absolute fucktardery, we are bringing an Ebola patient to Emory Hospital in Atlanta. Just what we fucking needed!!!!!

http://www.wistv.com/story/26166691/emory-hospital-to-receive-ebola-patient-in-atlanta

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shifty henry August 1, 2014 at 8:24 am

—- they will be routed through Mexico

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 8:40 am

“Is it coming here? You bet it is.”
But CIC, should we leave our Fellow Countrymen over there to die when the best treatment is available here?? I think not.

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CorruptionInColumbia August 1, 2014 at 9:00 am

Personally, if they chose to go to places they really had no business going to start with, they knew the risks involved, better to let them die over there than risk infecting our population with this dread disease.

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 9:16 am

“Personally, if they chose to go to places they really had no business going to start with, . . .”
What if it was your loved one? Which places (other than the US) is it okay to go?

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Jackie Chiles August 1, 2014 at 9:25 am

I would rather my loved one not give me Ebola.

High Expectations August 1, 2014 at 9:28 am

Well aren’t you hard to please?

Squishy123 August 1, 2014 at 9:42 am

Doesn’t matter, they knew the risks. Would you send your son or daughter over there right now to wipe butts and bathe Ebola patients? This should be a one-way trip for anyone who goes over there.

sparklecity August 1, 2014 at 11:35 am

If Mother Theresa were alive she would be there careing for those poor souls.

Squishy123 August 1, 2014 at 2:01 pm

And likely dead within a week.

Squishy123 August 1, 2014 at 9:41 am

Absolutely, they went over there voluntarily knowing the risks.

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CorruptionInColumbia August 1, 2014 at 3:42 pm

Better the few who thought it a good idea to go over there to begin with than the population of the United States.

If we are lucky (which we probably won’t be) the plane(s) bringing them over here will crash shortly after takeoff from whatever field in Africa they depart from.

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nitrat August 2, 2014 at 9:35 am

The director of the CDC said on CNN 8-1 that treatment for Ebola is supportive and these 2 Americans did not need to be moved to be adequately treated, that their transport was solely the decision of the employer – Rev. Franklin Graham’s Samaritan’s Purse.

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CorruptionInColumbia August 2, 2014 at 7:30 pm

Well there you go! Thank you for the info!

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Jackie Chiles August 1, 2014 at 9:27 am

EXACTLY. This is highly contagious- I don’t care what they say. If it’s spread through bodily fluids, then you can catch it from a sneeze.

There’s also some evidence that it can be spread through the air.

“In the laboratory, infection through small-particle aerosols has been demonstrated in primates, and airborne spread among humans is strongly suspected, although it has not yet been conclusively demonstrated.”
http://www.phac-aspc.gc.ca/lab-bio/res/psds-ftss/ebola-eng.php

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 12:18 pm

“There’s also some evidence that it can be spread through the air.”
What about via email? Just to be safe maybe you ought to log off . . .

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Jackie Chiles August 1, 2014 at 4:11 pm

You seem dumb.

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 4:37 pm

“You seem dumb.”
You are dumb.

Jackie Chiles August 1, 2014 at 4:42 pm

(she retorted, forgetting for a moment that we’re not in elementary school)

SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 6:41 pm

“(she retorted, forgetting for a moment that we’re not in elementary school)”
Babble on idiot . . .

Jackie Chiles August 2, 2014 at 10:40 pm

(she typed, wiping the tears away from her eyes)

Mike at the Beach August 1, 2014 at 9:32 am

“Fucktardery”

A+++

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 12:06 pm

“Is it coming here?”
Reminds me of the AIDS hysteria – you’d like to think we learned something . . .

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easterndumbfuckastan August 1, 2014 at 8:28 pm

Here’s a little more information I received from a Dr in Atlanta that I went to high school with. She works at Emory but in a different division and pointed me to this article. Both of these Doctors that are now patients have been given experimental treatments to fight the Ebola virus. One an experimental serum that there was only one dose of and one received a blood transfusion from a survivor. If both or either of these work the antibodies from these two patients blood will likely hold the key to stopping this. They need to get them back to a level 4 bio-hazard facility in the US so they don’t die of complications before the possible cures have a chance to work. I understand it’s a risk but it’s not anymore infectious than many other dread communicable diseases, it just kills faster and in a more horrific manner.

http://www.citizen-times.com/story/news/local/2014/07/31/samaritan-doctor-ebola-coworker-take-serum/13409083/

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Sexual Chocolate August 1, 2014 at 8:16 am

Coming to America:

“She’s your Queen-to-be. A Queen-to-be forever. A Queen who’ll do whatever his highness desires. She’s your Queen-to-be. A vision of perfection. An object of affection to quench your royal fire. Completely free from infection.”

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shifty henry August 1, 2014 at 8:37 am

HINT:: ‘Ebola’ is not a person….

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 8:39 am

“HINT:: ‘Ebola’ is not a person….”
HINT-HINT: Nor does it honor race.

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Sexual Chocolate August 1, 2014 at 9:12 am Reply
shifty henry August 1, 2014 at 10:05 am

… thanks for this reminding me of this

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ANON August 1, 2014 at 9:18 am

Isn’t “to use at your discretion” supposed to be in there somewhere?

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The Colonel August 1, 2014 at 8:27 am

Plague came with the expansion of trade in the 500s, 1300s and late 1800s. WWI was followed by a worldwide flu pandemic that killed something like 70,000,000 folks as troops came home and refugees resettled. It is inevitable that the “jet age” will bring a pandemic of some kind.

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sparklecity August 1, 2014 at 11:39 am

Yep.
It’s classic Epidemiology 101 (which I took way back in 1978) fer sure.

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nitrat August 2, 2014 at 9:33 am

For the sake of the planet’s survival, we can hope so.

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The Colonel August 2, 2014 at 11:49 pm

I’m sorry, please explain what you mean by “…the planet’s survival…”

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tomstickler August 1, 2014 at 9:24 am

It would be karmic if Ebola became pandemic in the Obamacare refusal states.

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Jackie Chiles August 1, 2014 at 9:25 am

Yeah, Karma wants to kill people for not wanting Obamacare.

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Really? August 1, 2014 at 9:29 am

Something tells me that it’s not this person named “Karma” that wants Ebola to spread in refusal states, but just Tom Dickler.

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tomstickler August 1, 2014 at 9:30 am

A major goal of PPACA was providing preventive health care and access to health services for all. That means that when a person becomes ill, they can seek treatment immediately, and not hope it will go away, in the meantime spreading their infection.

BTW, how would that billboard at the top of the thread go over in the upstate?

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Jackie Chiles August 1, 2014 at 9:38 am

So people living in states that expanded Obamacare with ebola will have the happy knowledge that during their last week of life in the hospital will be covered? Karma smiles on that result.

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 12:16 pm

“Yeah, Karma wants to kill people for not wanting Obamacare.”
Karma is pretty damn smart, aint it??

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Mike at the Beach August 1, 2014 at 12:54 pm

You’re off your meds.

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 1:18 pm

“You’re off your meds.”
Oh no – I’m on my meds – what’s your excuse?

Jackie Chiles August 1, 2014 at 9:24 am

I don’t buy the “Ebola will not come to the U.S.” line. It’s spread through bodily fluids- sneezes, drool, blood, sweat, vomit, etc. So is norovirus. We’ve all caught a stomach bug at one time or another. Those tend to sweep through communities with rapidity-especially through kids. So why are they acting like Ebola is NBD?

Doctors, who presumably were using more protective gear than the general public still caught it. I say keep the patients in Africa to be safe.

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Squishy123 August 1, 2014 at 9:40 am

Not only is it coming, we’re likely spending a million dollars to import it. This whole feel good idea of dragging an Ebola infected patient half-way across the world is nothing more than pure ignorance. Every person and every thing that touches the ground in Africa will need to be decontaminated… yet somehow we feel it’s a good thing to bring in a person who’s bleeding out of every hole in their body into this country.

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CorruptionInColumbia August 1, 2014 at 3:29 pm

I know, Squishy. This is fucktardery at its absolute zenith!

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Jackie Chiles August 1, 2014 at 4:08 pm

Exactly.

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 6:52 pm

” Every person and every thing that touches the ground in Africa will need to be decontaminated. . . . ”
I wonder what would have happened if Ebola had originated in Ireland . . .

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Drinkin' for a living August 1, 2014 at 7:07 pm

The city streets overflow with alcohol laden piss there, no such virus can survive that.

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Grayson gets a pass August 2, 2014 at 10:14 am

If Grayson was a Republican, his comments would have been deemed racist.

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SC Blues August 1, 2014 at 7:54 pm

Ebola is here already. It is called Obama.

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nitrat August 2, 2014 at 9:31 am

Blame the Rev. Franklin Graham. These are his employees/volunteers. And, per, the head of the CDC 8-1-14 on CNN, their transfer was the employer’s call.
I imagine the CDC and Obama rolled over for fear of being Fox-ed over American Christians left to die or get well in Africa. Franklin has already been on Fox discussing this, I’ve read.

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Squishy123 August 1, 2014 at 9:46 am

From the continent that gave the world AIDS, now announcing the arrival of the new and improved Ebola virus!!! Now if these monkey fuckers won’t kill you through sexual transmission, they’ll at least make you bleed through your eyeballs.

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 6:59 pm

” Now if these monkey fuckers . . .”
You are simply pitiful.

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Thomas August 1, 2014 at 9:49 am

Ebola virus disease (EVD) or Ebola hemorrhagic fever (EHF) is transnitted via droplets in the air, blood, or bodily fluid contact. There is no cure.

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Thomas August 1, 2014 at 10:30 am

Ebola virus disease (EVD) or Ebola hemorrhagic fever (EHF) is an airborne pathogen. You can breath in droplets suspended in the air. The virus is also transmitted through bodily fluids including blood. There is a very high mortality rate. There is no vaccine or a cure. It also must have been created in a laboratory. That means man made.

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easterndumbfuckastan August 1, 2014 at 6:48 pm

If that were even half true there would already be billions dead. This has been around since 1976. The Soviets tried to weaponize a similar virus in the 70s and 80s and failed badly. It appears the hemorrhagic fever viruses don’t spread or weaponize well.

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nitrat August 2, 2014 at 9:18 am

It was identified in 1976. Don’t you figure it’s been around, like HIV/AIDS for decades or centuries? Without the proliferation of Western do-gooders providing medical treatment in Africa, Ebola had such a quick, contained kill off that it likely remained “hidden” until the population numbers reached the point where it just walked out of the jungle.

fascinating piece about the history of HIV, which may to applicable to Ebola and other viruses:

http://www.nytimes.com/2011/10/18/health/18aids.html?emc=eta1&_r=0

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thought-criminal August 1, 2014 at 10:32 am

Who in the hell thinks this is a good idea? We are gonna trust these stupid govt. @SSCLOWNS to properly manage this situation? Think about it….. How are they gonna get these two people from whatever airport they land in ATL, to whatever hospital/govt. facility they take them to? Seriously, what are the logistics here? And, most importantly, what are the potential consequences?

Furthermore, let us not forget that it just came out not too long ago that these CDC tards in ATL mismanaged (this is an understatement) other terrible diseases (small pox, anthrax, bird flu, etc.)?

Check it out:
http://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/cdc-cracks-down-labs-after-anthrax-bird-flu-scares-n153636

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CorruptionInColumbia August 1, 2014 at 3:34 pm

Like X 1,000!!!!!

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sparklecity August 1, 2014 at 12:04 pm

Since it’s such a rainey day, it might be a good time to rewatch/rent “Contagion” (which might turn out to be prophetic but I hope to God not). Damn food flick all the way around.
“Contagion” was produced by the same group that made “Syriania ( another good flick which does a great job showing the present day Middle East).

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sparklecity August 1, 2014 at 12:06 pm

Correction: “Damn GOOD flick all the way around”
Sorry for the typo!!!!!!!!!!!

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easterndumbfuckastan August 1, 2014 at 12:22 pm

Ebola-Cola the drink so good, it make you bleeeeed from your eyes.

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easterndumbfuckastan August 1, 2014 at 12:42 pm

Ebola has been around since 1976, there were two distinct but differing strains that struck. One in Sudan and one in Zaire. Ebola is also closely related to Marburgvirus another viral hemorrhagic fever that was originally discovered in 1967 in Marburg and Frankfurt Germany. The Soviet Union put a significant amount of time and research in to weaponizing Marburgvirus but had very limited success though several of their researchers were killed by the virus due to lab accidents. Ebola could be the result of one of those experiments, but that is conjecture. Hemorrhagic fevers tend to be self controlling due to the quickness of death that occurs after symptoms develop and due to the fact that most (all?) are not contagious until after the onset of symptoms. Unless a significant mutation of the Ebola Virus occurs it is unlikely that it would spread beyond very small pockets in any modern western country with a modern health care system. Being that the Soviet Union tried and failed to weaponize the related Marburgvirus I don’t see it spreading like wildfire around the US without assistance.

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Jackie Chiles August 1, 2014 at 2:28 pm

Ebola spreads in the same manner as norovirus and that’s the number one cause of gastroenteritis in the US.

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easterndumbfuckastan August 1, 2014 at 5:58 pm

Not exactly, Norovirus is a much more hardy virus than Ebola, unless Ebola mutates in some shape for or fashion.

http://decipherthescience.blogspot.com/2012/08/ebola-pandemic-virus-fail.html

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SamAdams2010 August 2, 2014 at 11:11 am

A 21 day virtual undetectable incubation period during most of which it is contagious, oil/gas rich countries with multi-national oil company engineers and executives regularly traveling to an international airport seems to be a good start for a pandemic. Oh yes, but lets not forget the reich-wing kristian missionaries helping the brown babies come to Jezus by creating the vector from the country to city airports and no viable cure should be a perfect storm to a 1918 pandemic.

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SCBlues August 1, 2014 at 6:50 pm

You can certainly tell we are in The Heart of The Bible Belt by reading the majority of the posts on this thread.

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Todd August 1, 2014 at 7:40 pm

You all act like this is the first time someone with Ebola came to America.

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nitrat August 2, 2014 at 8:53 am

Samaritan’s Purse
Founded: 1970
President (since 1979): Franklin Graham (son of Billy Graham)
Assets: $246.42 million USD (2012)
Income: $471.23 million USD (2012)

Is Samaritan’s Purse going to reimburse the evil US government, headed by the Kenyan Muslim Obama for arranging the transport of its employees, volunteers ?
Or, even THANK the government and the Kenyan Muslim Obama?
Or, is the vile Franklin Graham going to pretend he doesn’t know anything about how the CDC built plane was arranged?

The director of the CDC said on CNN 8-1 that treatment for Ebola is supportive and these 2 Americans did not need to be moved to be adequately treated, that their transport was solely the decision of the employer.
Obama needs to stop rolling over for the Christianists of The Fellowship/The Family/C Street/National Prayer Breakfast/Wilburforce Foundation/Prison Ministries/Campus Crusade for Christ religio-political-business-military cabal and expose the harm they have done to this country and the planet instead.

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nitrat August 2, 2014 at 12:32 pm

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/03/us/kent-brantley-nancy-writebol-ebola-treatment-atlanta.html?hp&action=click&pgtype=Homepage&version=HpSum&module=first-column-region&region=top-news&WT.nav=top-news

“Although the State Department said it had been involved in facilitating the evacuations from Liberia, Emory said that Samaritan’s Purse, the religious organization that sponsored Dr. Brantly, was paying for the transportation and care of the workers. Dr. Ribner said that Emory officials had communicated with state and county regulators about the patients, but that the air ambulance service, the Phoenix Air Group., had been responsible for securing the necessary clearances to bring the two to the United States.”

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