National Politics - 2016

2016 GOP Debate: Who’s In?

CANDIDATES BATTLE FOR THEIR SPOT ONSTAGE … || By FITSNEWS || “Republicans” will hold their first presidential debate of the 2016 primary election early next month. The debate will be held on Thursday, August 6 at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio.  In addition to a crowd of up…

CANDIDATES BATTLE FOR THEIR SPOT ONSTAGE …

|| By FITSNEWS || “Republicans” will hold their first presidential debate of the 2016 primary election early next month.

The debate will be held on Thursday, August 6 at the Quicken Loans Arena in Cleveland, Ohio.  In addition to a crowd of up to 5,000 people, the proceedings will be televised nationally by Fox News.

So … who’s in?  And who’s out?

According to Fox, the debate will feature the top ten candidates based on an average of the five most recent national polls.  In fact the candidates’ position on the stage will be determined by their support in the polls – with candidates receiving higher levels of support occupying spots toward the center of the stage.

Fox isn’t disclosing which national polls it is using, though – which we’re guessing is going to cause all sorts of controversy.

As of July 27, here’s where ABC News has the field …

1. Donald Trump – 18 percent
2. Jeb Bush – 14 percent
3. Scott Walker – 11 percent
4. Marco Rubio – 6 percent
T5. Rand Paul – 6 percent
T5. Ted Cruz – 6 percent
7. Mike Huckabee – 6 percent
8. Ben Carson – 5 percent
9. Chris Christie – 3.0 percent
10. Rick Perry – 2.2 percent
11. John Kasich – 2.0 percent
12. Rick Santorum – 1.6 percent
13. Bobby Jindal – 1.4 percent
14. Carly Fiorina – 0.8 percent
15. George Pataki – 0.6 percent
16. Lindsey Graham – 0.2 percent

And yes … it does our hearts good to see our home-state fascist U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham coming in at dead last on this list.

Anyway, the three frontrunners in the race – billionaire Donald Trump, establishment favorite Jeb Bush and Wisconsin governor Scott Walker – are obviously “in.”  So are the five candidates we’re referring to collectively as the “second tier” – U.S. Senators Marco Rubio, Rand Paul and Ted Cruz, social conservative favorite Mike Huckabee and retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson.

That leaves eight candidates vying for the final two spots – although Graham and former New York governor George Pataki appear unlikely to make up enough ground over the coming ten days to land a spot onstage.

Currently, the final two spots would go to New Jersey governor Chris Christie and former Texas governor Rick Perry, although four candidates – John Kasich, Rick Santorum, Bobby Jindal and Carly Fiorina – remain within striking distance.

Should we care who makes the cut?

Not really …

This debate boils down to Trump versus the “Republican” establishment – with the nine GOP candidates appearing on either side of “The Donald” facing quite the conundrum.

Do they follow Perry’s model and attack the outspoken, politically incorrect candidate?  Or do they recognize that Trump’s rise is being fueled by something bigger than the candidate – and pay deference to him in an effort not to alienate the GOP voters gravitating toward his candidacy?

It will be interesting to see …

One thing is certain: Trump’s bold pronouncements have sucked all the oxygen out of the tightly controlled debate the GOP was hoping to have – fundamentally transforming this race from an exchange of scripted talking points to a wide open, at times uncomfortable discussion of the root problems facing the United States.

In fact Trump’s presence at this debate – and the reactions he’s bound to get from the other candidates – make this one of the few political events we’re looking forward to watching.

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51 comments

Elfego July 28, 2015 at 11:45 am

Fiorina should be included!

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mamatiger92 July 28, 2015 at 12:44 pm

Absolutely! Put ’em all up there. The more the merrier.

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Birther McClinton July 28, 2015 at 12:51 pm

This all, apparently, has you tickled pink. One way to look at things, when the democrat clown car shows up, it can only get better than the current offerings.

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shifty henry July 28, 2015 at 5:22 pm

For openers dress them in tuxedos and top hats, with spats and canes — somebody think of a song and dance they can do together….

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dwb619 July 28, 2015 at 9:12 pm

White men can’t dance either.
Except for the “shag”.
YOU BETCHA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I can see Clearwater from my house!

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mamatiger92 July 29, 2015 at 8:10 am

My money is on Chris Christie in the swimsuit competition.

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shifty henry July 29, 2015 at 8:48 am

That would be cruelty to the viewers.

Rocky July 28, 2015 at 11:58 am

We can already know how the debate turns out, and what Trump will say about:
Bush – “you are a loosa”
Walker – “you are a bigger loosa”
Perry – “you’re the biggest loosa – I went to your border – not even a fence”
Rubio – “you’re not even good enough to be a loosa”
Cruz – “Let’s talk later”
Ben Carson – “get me a water please”
Rand Paul – “you’re worse than your fadda”
Huck – “I like lead players, not base players.”

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SCBlues July 28, 2015 at 4:05 pm

Any of them can sing the line “Clowns to the left of me and Jokers to the right” . . . .

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt July 28, 2015 at 7:32 pm

LOL…sadly, that’s incredibly accurate.

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ImpaledNazarene July 29, 2015 at 2:44 am

Hilarious. Amazingly, that is a perfect description of all those GOP candidates.

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mamatiger92 July 28, 2015 at 12:00 pm

oh man… this is going to be awesome.

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Rocky July 28, 2015 at 12:02 pm

I’m making chicken wings that night. Will be better than a Super Bowl.

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mamatiger92 July 28, 2015 at 12:03 pm

no doubt

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Ryan P. Curtis July 29, 2015 at 2:29 am Reply
Centrist View July 28, 2015 at 12:43 pm

Better then Super Bowl commercials?

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flip July 28, 2015 at 1:02 pm

Burn ya an American flag and invite mamatiger over so you two socialists can sift thru fetus parts for horderves

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Rocky July 28, 2015 at 1:07 pm

I can’t afford that. You charge too much for them. Ba-bam!!!!

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Dr. Mary Gatter July 28, 2015 at 1:12 pm

I want a Lamborghini!

Rocky July 28, 2015 at 1:12 pm

I want a Kia Optima.

Spawn of Rocktoid July 28, 2015 at 1:20 pm

Daddy where are the coat hangers? Rent is due.

Rocky July 28, 2015 at 2:24 pm

I’ve got a bag of them from the cleaners. Of course you could pre-sale your baby to the cartels – and live rent-free for another year.

Dr. Mary Gatter July 28, 2015 at 1:42 pm

You should set your goals (and your baby part prices) higher!

Flip July 28, 2015 at 2:24 pm

I tried, but once I batter and fry them, the price drops.

flip July 28, 2015 at 1:16 pm

Abortions covered in your illegal mommy in laws Obamacare?

Rocky July 28, 2015 at 2:23 pm

Not sure – don’t know what the required coverage is under Obamacare for that. Oh, and mommy in law is a Legal Resident Alien – you know legal? Green Card. You know what that means right? They applied, came in legally. That pathway you always talk about. God you’re such a one-horse show.

Geronimo July 28, 2015 at 3:18 pm

Are they covered in your Medicaid you got through Kasich?

flip July 28, 2015 at 3:10 pm

I do churn out more aborted babies than an alcoholic liberal arts major.

mamatiger92 July 28, 2015 at 1:37 pm

Afternoon, Flip. I think it’s time for your afternoon nap.

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DinduNuffins July 28, 2015 at 12:41 pm

Wonder if they’ll create a “free speech zone” for the NBPP like the DNC did in 2004? You’re right, this IS going to be awesome!

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southmauldin July 28, 2015 at 12:01 pm

There should be an extra podium for the 11th place candidate, because Cruz will be situated behind Trump with his nose firmly up his ass the whole time like a little puppy begging for a scrap.

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shifty henry July 28, 2015 at 5:18 pm

now cut that out..!!

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Tom Funderburk July 28, 2015 at 12:11 pm

how do you figure Dr Carson as part of the “Republican” establishment?

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Superfly July 28, 2015 at 12:23 pm

Trump can’t run from his crony-capitalist past and hardly devoid of “establishment” credentials.

I’m not exactly pleased that FOX News is limiting the debate to ten. How is 10 any more or less manageable than 16? If it was limited to say 5, I’d understand it. As it is, 10 people answering questions is not much different than 16.

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TroubleBaby July 28, 2015 at 12:41 pm

“Trump can’t run from his crony-capitalist past and hardly devoid of “establishment” credentials.”

IMO you have to separate “establishment” from crony capitalist. I agree with you that Trump is a crony capitalist btw, I just don’t buy “establishment”- because he’s being attacked by all the establishment players on both sides of the aisle.

If he was establishment, they wouldn’t be attacking him with the fervor they are.

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Superfly July 28, 2015 at 2:10 pm

I don’t think he’s part of the “political establishment” though I don’t know how you can be a Crony Capitalist and *not* be a part of the “Establishment”. He knows how the political process works with respect to crony capitalism, and has made it work for him, so I think its fair to say he’s part of the Establishment though not an Establishment politician. He is definitely outside of good ol boys club in that respect.

I do enjoy and think other candidates should learn from, his push back against the press, and not agreeing to the premise of their stupid, gotcha questions intended only to feed their Cultural Marxist agenda. Other candidates should start telling the press to go fuck themselves as well. Not planning on voting for Trump though.

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Speak D Truth July 28, 2015 at 1:26 pm

Split it at 8 and hold 2 debates.

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mamatiger92 July 28, 2015 at 12:50 pm

Damn… even Pataki is ahead of LG.

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The Colonel July 28, 2015 at 12:59 pm

The only thing Ms. Lindsey is running for is Secretary of Defense.

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Rocky July 28, 2015 at 1:08 pm

Can’t wait to see them all talk about putting Jews in ovens.

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flip July 28, 2015 at 3:17 pm

I want to hear how someone with a Green Card can get FREE Obamacare.I emailed Kasich and Rubio today.

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euwe max July 28, 2015 at 2:34 pm

Trump: “Rank us by net worth.”

Santorum: “Rank us by God’s choice.”

Paul: “Rank us by rankle.”

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shifty henry July 28, 2015 at 3:24 pm

10+

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KeepingItReal July 28, 2015 at 3:32 pm

Obammy say ashy.

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dwb619 July 28, 2015 at 2:55 pm

Do the MASONS have a candidate?
SHAZAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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shifty henry July 28, 2015 at 3:24 pm

How about a Kiwanian (is this a legitimate word)?

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Two Norvegians are drinking at da Arrow Bar in Weston,
WI. Ole says,”‘Did you know dat lions have sex 10 to 15 times a night?”
‘Darn!’ says Sven. “I jus joined da Elks.”

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GOTRUMP July 28, 2015 at 7:34 pm

I think Trump will do great in the debates, and here is why we need him for the GOP. From Politico.com

“Four leading GOP presidential candidates – Jeb Bush, Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Scott Walker – are traveling to a Southern California luxury hotel in coming days to make their cases directly to the Koch brothers and hundreds of other wealthy conservatives planning to spend close to $1 billion in the run-up to the 2016 election,”

The Koch Brothers hate Trump. They can’t buy him the way they can buy these folks. If we don’t want the GOP to be the Koch Party, we need to support Trump.

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flip July 28, 2015 at 8:00 pm

Thank you Harry Reid.You only support Hillary is going to prison and dems can’t win without Trump as 3rd party candidate-which won’t happen.

Trump is a Patriot and know electing a dem president in 2016 would finish this country off.

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Jack July 29, 2015 at 10:30 am

This is fascinating. Can there be anything more sinister than the Republican front runners going to a secret meeting with a shadowy group of billionaires, to tell them what they will do for them in exchange for money. You can’t make this stuff up.

The GOP is totally corrupt. Can yo really imagine turning this country over to to someone who is not even hiding the fact they are in the pocket of billionaires.

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ImpaledNazarene July 29, 2015 at 2:46 am

Oh man, this one is going to be great! I hope the head GOP douche orders the candidates to not show up to the debate so it can be the ‘Donald Trump Show.’

Trump debating the nations issues would be the best night spent!!

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Lee Branson July 29, 2015 at 4:36 pm

My prediction: Trump will show up with a giant looney-tunes style rubber mallet and walk down the line whacking each candidate in the nuts.

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