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ISLAMIC SHOOTER KILLS FOUR MARINES IN TENNESSEE ATTACK || By FITSNEWS || A 24-year-old Muslim extremist murdered four U.S. Marines at a training facility in Chattanooga, Tennessee – an “act of domestic terrorism” that quickly sparked a political firestorm for the administration of Barack Obama. The gunman – Muhammad Youssef…

ISLAMIC SHOOTER KILLS FOUR MARINES IN TENNESSEE ATTACK

|| By FITSNEWS || A 24-year-old Muslim extremist murdered four U.S. Marines at a training facility in Chattanooga, Tennessee – an “act of domestic terrorism” that quickly sparked a political firestorm for the administration of Barack Obama.

The gunman – Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez – died during the attack.  His name was not on the federal government’s terrorism watch list at the time of the attack, nor was he under investigation or surveillance.

Abdulazeez’s father, whose name has not been released, was briefly on a watch list after allegedly contributing money to an organization with ties to terrorists – but his name was removed from the list following an investigation.

And while rumors of a connection to the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) are running rampant, so far there is no evidence to indicate Abdulazeez coordinated his attack with the militant group.  However the U.S. Department of Justice has launched “a national security investigation” in connection with the attack, which is being probed as “an act of domestic terrorism.”

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Abdulazeez – a Jordanian who was born in Kuwait but became a naturalized U.S. citizen – grew up in the Chattanooga suburbs.  He was tall and athletic (a high school wrestler and mixed martial arts fighter) and described as polite by those who knew him.

The only real hint uncovered that pointed to the possibility of a violent rampage?  A website he allegedly maintained which included references to submitting to Allah – and to life as being “short and bitter.”

The mayhem began at around 10:30 a.m. EDT at a military recruiting center in Chattanooga.  There, Abdulazeez fired anywhere between 25-30 shots at the windows of the facility – shooting from his vehicle.

From there, the shooter drove seven miles – with police in pursuit – to a Navy and Marine Corps reserve center.

There, he shot and killed the four Marines – reportedly reloading his weapon at least once during the attack, which also wounded a Chattanooga police officer.

One of those killed?  Forty-year-old sergeant Thomas Sullivan, a Marine since 1997.

“He was our hero and he will never be forgotten,” one of Sullivan’s relatives posted on social media.

Ray Mabus – the Secretary of the Navy – called the attack “”insidious and unfathomable.”

“The Navy and Marine Corps team collectively mourn the loss of four heroes,” he said. “The tragedy in Chattanooga is both devastating and senseless.”

It didn’t take long for the rampage to become a political issue – with heat being applied to the Obama administration, which is perceived as being “soft on radical Islam.”

“This shooting underscores the grave reality of the threat posed to us by radical Islamic terrorism every single day,” Louisiana governor and 2016 GOP presidential hopeful Bobby Jindal said. “It’s time for the White House to wake up and tell the truth and the truth is that radical Islam is at war with us, and we must start by being honest about that.”

The shooting also revived a debate over the Second Amendment, and specifically whether the Marines at the reserve facility should have been permitted to carry weapons (they are currently banned from doing so).

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sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 9:57 am

My thoughts and prayers go out to the murdered marines and their families and wish for total recovery for the ones wounded and gratitude for the first responders who kept the carnage from getting any worse than it was.
A true no bullshit tragedy

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Nölff July 17, 2015 at 10:00 am

How long did it take for him to get a gun check? 3 days?

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Buddy Miles July 17, 2015 at 10:04 am

A Clinton in ’93 made sure the Marines didn’t have any weapons to protect themselves with.

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sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 10:23 am

Bullshit…
I was a paratrooper in the 82nd Airborne from 1972-1974 at Ft. Bragg and we were not allowed to have personal weapons in the barracks or anywhere on post. We were allowed to store personal weapons in the arms room and sign them out if we were going hunting or shoot at the Rod & Gun club on base. Only soldiers who were armed were MP’s.
****It has been that way on military bases since like forever*******
Last thing you want is some drunken GI/Marine/Airman/Sailor roaming around the barracks on a Saturday night with a loaded .357 because he hadn’t been laid or thinking about “Jody” fucking his girlfriend back home.
We had enough fights the way it was without having to worry about someone with a hand canon being drunk as hell in the barracks.
Last thing you want is a bunch of 18-25 year old males with plenty of testosterone, booze and guns all in one location……….

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shifty henry July 17, 2015 at 10:45 am

I have your back on that, Sparkle. Although, as I think about at this moment, if I shared a barracks with a guy nicknamed “Sparkle” I would definitely want to sack out with a .45 under my pillow!

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Quietus July 17, 2015 at 10:47 am

At what point did officers, NCOs and whoever picked up the mail stop carrying a .45 or 9mm as a matter of course?

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sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 11:21 am

Since like fucking never…..
For mail call??Are you fucking serious???
Now that being posted, I do have to clarify one thing because unlike MANY conservatives, I believe in the truth whatever it is. and your total ignorance of military life jogged my memory:
Back in 1972 we were still getting paid with REAL cash at the end of the month. It was called “PAYDAY FORMATION” (any of you dinosaurs like myself remember that?). You would present yourself to the payroll officer, salute and say something like “Private So & So reporting for pay Sir”. The payroll officer would tell you how much you had coming, count out the cash (including coins) you signed for it, saluted, did an “about face” then proceeded to head to downtown “Fayettenam” to get drunk and go whoring at the numerous strip and juke joints lining downtown Fayetteville.
I was “chosen” for payroll duty one month and had to go to Division Finance with a 1st Lieutenant for him to sign out the payroll. He had a .45 and I had a M-16 with 5 rounds in the magazine. I don’t remember either of us chambering a round but I CLEARLY remember him instructing me that IF we were held up to give them the fucking money.
Only other thing I remember about that day was I got to make “monkey faces” at all my buddies because I was behind the payroll officer standing guard and he couldn’t see me fucking with my buds while they presented themselves!!!
Within the year they went to payment by check and near the end in 1974 they came out with direct deposit but we still had a “Payday Formation” on the last Friday of the month as a formality plus awards and decorations and an excuse for getting the rest of the day off to “pay bills”. Which pretty much meant 3 days off if you didn’t have duty (not a bad gig really)
I remember making “Buck Sergeant” in May 1974 during “Payday Formation
When I was in Iraq back in 2005 I recounted those days to the young troops and they looked at me like the dinosaur that I am.
But it was all true and nothing like some old fart telling young troops how it was “back in the “old days”

Buddy Miles July 17, 2015 at 11:48 am

I was the guy with the M-16. Then it went to JUMPS.

sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 11:58 am

You too?
After it went to checks sometime in late 1972-early 1973 there was no need for “guarding” payroll because there was no payroll to guard.
I haven’t heard the term JUMPS in 41 years……..
Seems like “JUMPS” stood for Joint Uniform Military Pay System – right.
When I was in the reserves from 1988 – 2010 I don’t recall us calling it anything but “finance”

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 12:04 pm

I was one of those “payday guards” what a joke. I had my M-16 and three hole rounds with strict orders that if I shot them I was going to jail, my protective mask and my steel pot. I’d walk around on the Gym roof at Fort Gordon while some 1st Lieutenant with a M1911 older than he was an a magazine of five rounds paid trainees who then gave most of the cash up to buy travelers checks… Took a whole freaking day to pay maybe a thousand privates.

Little trivia for you what officer is the only officer not required to return your salute?

sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm

I’ll bite….
The payroll officer………..
He/she would be too busy doling out the cash
Did you read my rather long account of being a payroll guard?
All true – no bullshit!!!!!

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 12:26 pm

You are correct sir!

Not only did I read it, I lived it a few years later – you were better armed than I was!. Privates didn’t make it into the JUMPS system for several months after entry so AIT students at Gordon (where I taught int he Signal School) got paid in cash.

They quit handing out Jumps statements and replaced them with LES’s in 90-91 I think but we still had “Payday Fridays”

sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 12:44 pm

I remember those monthly “Payday Fridays” with fondness
Ain’t nothing beats a 3 day weekend for a GI!!!!
I still have my last active duty “LES” from 1974 – I “cleared” approximately $450 for the month and that was with jump & “pro” pay as an E-5 (buck) Sergeant!
I also have my first “LES” from Gulf I showing my “hostile action” pay.

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm

I turned the LES’s off a long time ago and will only print one if I need to turn it in for something. I kept those old green JUMPS statements in order in a big binder for about 15 years and finally threw the damn things away.

sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 12:53 pm

Like I posted, for whatever reason, I kept my last one when I got out of the Army (I’m glad I did) and the first one from Gulf I.
Big difference in pay I’ll tell you that.
Didn’t keep anything else – no need to.
I used to get the LES’s in the mail till they went internet and we could check them at the base then later at home on MyPay.
Normally all I did was check my bank account (now travel vouchers were a different matter (Uncle Sugar gives then takes away when it comes to travel vouchers…)

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 12:56 pm

Just once I’d like to get a travel voucher (now called DTS) to go through the first time.

sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 1:23 pm

Just gotta have the right people at your friendly local “finance’ unit…..
When I flew, I turned in a shitload of travel vouchers over the years. Had a “hic-up” now and then (mainly an “overpayment” then was “dunned – that hurts!!!) but all in all our “finance” people did a great (and sometimes thankless) job.

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 12:49 pm

Did you ever have to do the Payday Road marches at Bragg – I was in the old 1st COSCOM for a short while in the early ’80s and they would take us out to the DZ, drop you off and you’d walk in – once you got back to the company area you were done for the day – some of the fastest 12 milers I ever walked…

sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 1:41 pm

Naw, not back in the early 70’s
I was 11D2P (recon) and was a M-60 gunner on a scout jeep!!
In early ’73 I went TDY to Ft. Rucker for OH-58 crew chief so I had no real marches to speak of during my time at Bragg. Humped a lot in the woods during FTX’s or aggressing against Special Forces around West End and Southern Pines area but no long marching that I can recall
Now, Recondo school in 1972 was a different matter………….
That was the most challenging 4 weeks of my life and has gotten me through some tough times on the outside (to this day) and I’m 62 years old…….
Recondo Roster# 549/Class 10-72/class standing 13th out of 38 (and I’d have been grateful to have been 38 out of 38!!!) Seems like we started out with around 70 guys….

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 5:10 pm

You are older than dirt we haven’t had 11Ds in a long time! My time as a platoon leader was spent in the motorized Infantry Division but we still had a lot of road marches, both mounted and a foot.

shifty henry July 17, 2015 at 12:38 pm

The one sitting on the commode?

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 12:42 pm

Yeah – no.

shifty henry July 17, 2015 at 2:58 pm

I apologize for that moment of indigestion that made me post that…

shifty henry July 17, 2015 at 12:35 pm

During my four years in the Navy, we relied on the Marines assigned to our groups both on land and at sea. It was like having our own private security guards, and we were glad to have them with us!

On the aircraft carrier the Intrepid doing anti-submarine surveillance in the Caribbean, I was assigned Petty Officer in Charge of a life raft in case of abandoning ship during battle. I told my division officer that I would want a Marine in the raft with his weapons. The question to me was something like, “What the hell do you think he’ll shoot — the damn planes that just sunk us?”

I seem to remember my reply being something like, “Can I say sharks?” They tagged me “Shark” until I left!

sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 11:23 am

If I’m not mistaken you are a ‘Navy guy”.
Don’t y’all call your electricians and/or radiomen “Sparkie” or “Sparks”?

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shifty henry July 17, 2015 at 12:23 pm

Yep, Sparks for the radiomen. But no one I ever knew was named “Sparkle” ….. but I’m sure it’s got to be a compliment to you.

sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 12:33 pm

After reading your post below, I “get it” now – dumb me!!!!
We’re in the ballpark of “Tinkerbell” right???
I guess it just shows confidence in my “straight” orientation (or shit going over my head from time to time!!)
You do know “Sparklecity” has been the nickname for Spartanburg since the late ’60’s – early 70’s don’t you?

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shifty henry July 17, 2015 at 2:59 pm

No, this is first I’ve learned of that connection.

CNSYD July 17, 2015 at 11:12 am

“canon” Divinity students were they?

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sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 11:28 am

Naw, just a simple slip of the key due to a non-responsive keyboard. …….
Maybe I need to make the “trigger pull” a little lighter
But thanks for catching the typo

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Buddy Miles July 17, 2015 at 11:53 am

Directive 5210.56 was written in ’92 by deputy secretary of DOD. Clinton ordered it enforced in ’93.

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sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 12:14 pm

So someone besides Clinton come up with this directive prior to Clinton becoming president and he ordered it to be enforced.
So what????
What did it change that has not been DOD policy as it pertained to military bases prior to that?
The point I’m making is that as long as I remember you only carried arms on a base if you were part of security or guarding sensitive material.
Now in a war zone (like when I was in Iraq and Afghanistan) you were armed depending on where you were and what you did. Places like Bagram we were armed all the time early in the war (2002)
As a rule we were not armed at airbases like Ali-Al-Salem or Al-Udide UNLESS you were going out on a mission. We checked out our weapons prior to going to the aircraft and checked them in upon our returning to base after the mission was over. At some “undisclosed” bases I was at, the Army troops carried their weapons (M-4 & M-16’s and SAWS) wherever they went but they were not loaded.
End of fucking story

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The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 12:21 pm

All of the time I was in Afghanistan (’09-’10 and ’13-’14) we carried loaded but not locked. In Iraq (same time frames) we carried all the time but kept the magazine in a pocket. In Kuwait we sometimes carried off post and sometimes didn’t, in ’07-’08 they caught some fools trying to attack AJ and we carried anytime we left the gates, when I returned in ’09 we didn’t. When I left there for what I hope is the last time in ’14 weapons were a distant memory, stored in the arms room and drawn for cleaning and qualification.

In Jordan (’13-’14) I kept my M-9 (a complete piece of shit but better than nothing) in an “inside the pants holster” covered with a long tailed shirt.

sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 1:48 pm

Easy on the M-9, I won a lot of trophies shooting that pistol!!
Arguing about the merits of the M-9 vs. M1911 is like arguing about Bar-B-Q;- the argument can never be settled.
Now the Sig .357 on the other hand…………………
And if we are talking about ‘wheel” guns – nothing will ever beat the mighty and versatile .357 magnum……….

CorruptionInColumbia July 17, 2015 at 1:41 pm

Unfortunately, A LOT has changed since 72-74. Time after time, the targets of these pieces of shit are GUN FREE ZONES. This is not by accident and not coincidence. The coward in Charleston might have not been looked down upon quite so badly had he gone after a bunch of thugs and gang bangers. Instead, he went after good, peaceful, loving people who he knew would not be armed in a church, which is for the most part designated as a GFZ by our legislature. Someone noted tbe crud in Chattanooga didn’t enter one of the placrs he shot up, both of which are GFZ’s. The bottom line is that no one inside either facility could be legally armed and return fire and he knew that. Unlike Roof, most go into these rampages intending to die, either at the hands of police or their own. In all cases, they seem to want to get the highest body count possible before either happens. Roof had the same “goal”, but unfortunately was too chickenshit to die after committing his murders.

Will our lawmakers ever wake up and understand that Gun Free Zones are nothing more than Safe Zones for murderers and other criminals? GFZ= Victim Disarmament Zone = Criminal Safety Zone

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SCBlueWoman July 17, 2015 at 10:24 am

George HW Bush did that. Don’t let the facts trip you up.

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Your Average Republican July 17, 2015 at 10:27 am

Anything that is bad is done by Democrats.

Anything that is good is done by Republicans.

Government paid cell phone plans may have started under Bush but we still call them Obamaphones.

Facts have a liberal bias, you should watch Fox News instead.

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Quietus July 17, 2015 at 10:46 am

You are correct, the order was published in February of 1992. Looks lit was issued by some bureaucrat somewhere in the bowels of the Pentagon. Seems as though officers and NCOs could carry side arms at some point in the 70s or 80s that changed. This just reinforced the standing policy.

http://www.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a272176.pdf

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Buddy Miles July 17, 2015 at 12:01 pm

Directive 5210.56 was written by deputy secretary of DOD in ’92. Clinton ordered it to be implemented in ’93. No more transporting my pistol on base in my vehicle afterwards.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis July 17, 2015 at 1:37 pm

You mean the Reagan Massacre in Beruit. No ammo was issued. And ?

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sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 1:57 pm

Good point, I’ve been saying/posting that for years but to die-hard conservatives who have put Reagan on a lofty pedestal you could shout that to the mountains and they would not listen…………
They’re damn near zealots when it comes to the worship of Reagan……

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Sic Semper Tyrannis July 17, 2015 at 2:02 pm

They can hear Bengazzi. Vet’s actually have a different view of what we say.

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sparklecity July 17, 2015 at 2:16 pm

You said a lot in two sentences there………..

Your Average Republican July 17, 2015 at 10:05 am

Dylann Roof wasn’t motivated by racist extremism, he was just insane.

This guy wasn’t insane, he was just motivated by religious extremism.

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Roof was drugged-up July 17, 2015 at 10:06 am

Roof was also drug-crazed. And liberals want to make drugs more accessible, and used more.

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Your Average Republican July 17, 2015 at 10:12 am

Dylann Roof wasn’t possibly motivated by his hate, he was motivated by psych drugs.

This guy wasn’t possibly motivated by psych drugs, he was motivated by hate.

We shouldn’t bother seeing if this guy took any kind of psych drugs.

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Elfego July 17, 2015 at 10:16 am

Anyone that kills in most cases is motivate by hate. And the Democrat Party and Obama constantly stir it up! Planned Parenthood is motivate by Money!

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Your Average Republican July 17, 2015 at 10:21 am

Republicans are tired of divisive politics, that’s why we declare Democrats as the only ones causing problems.

Republicans are tired of hatred, that’s why we hate on everyone and blame Democrats for hating that we do it.

mamatiger92 July 17, 2015 at 11:04 am

you win the thread

Elfego July 17, 2015 at 10:15 am

You need to hang your shingle out. I am sure there are plenty of nuts around that would visit!

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Nope July 17, 2015 at 10:50 am

No, Dylan was definitely motivated by racial hate. He said so himself, dipshit.

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Your Average Republican July 17, 2015 at 11:25 am

But Dylann took a drug at one point so he is instantly absolved of any possible racism. Clearly he was just a drugged up insane person with no hint of racial hatred in his heart.

Now if Dylann’s name was Darius and he shot up white people, he would have been a cracked out racist gunning down whitey because Democrats brainwashed him to.

Democrats are the ones being hateful, bigoted, and divisive though.

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The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 11:58 am

That “took a drug at some point” absolution didn’t work out for ol’Jimmy Holmes did it?

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erneba July 17, 2015 at 11:05 am

I am expecting Obama to rule it “Workplace Violence.”
You know, radical Islam had nothing to do with this.

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Your Average Republican July 17, 2015 at 11:21 am

I see no racial connection with Dylann Roof shooting up black people in a church despite a load of evidence of racial hatred.

I see a religious connection with this guy because his name is Muhammad, no further proof is even necessary.

Right wing terrorism doesn’t exist, only non-whites or non-Christians can be terrorists.

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JayJay July 17, 2015 at 12:00 pm

Roof had the sense to purchase the most effective weapon for his mission to kill multi targets in a confined space. Very few people survive being double/triple tapped above the waistline with a .45 Cal.

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The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 12:28 pm

I’m sure he bought it because it looked cool and the gun magazine he looked at said it was a great gun. I doubt he did a whole lot of coherent mission analysis in the selection of his weapon.

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RogueElephant July 17, 2015 at 1:19 pm

He got lucky. The 1911 is still the best hand gun ever made IMO. I carried one when I was on the instrument in Vietnam.

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The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 1:23 pm

Completely agree I carried a remanufactured one from the Korean War when I was a platoon leader in 1988. Today my carry is either a 1911 or Smith 686.

erneba July 17, 2015 at 6:15 pm

The Military kept the colt 45 auto in service for a long time.
I used to strap one on when standing the brow watches on the ship which I was stationed. It was a long time ago. And we also had roving watches where we carried a .45 auto pistol and a Thompson sub machine gun. We had nuclear weapons aboard and when tied up had continuous watches. Qualifying with those old weapons was a bitch.

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 6:23 pm

It was only hard because you didn’t shoot then enough. I lucked into an assignment ass an enlisted Soldier where range operations was an extra duty, I got to shoot at least once a week, by the time I left that job, I could qualify expert with everything on post up to an M2. The skills have faded a little over time but the techniques are committed to muscle memory and it comes back very quickly.

erneba July 17, 2015 at 6:27 pm

True, we really did not get much range time and we were on a six month re-qualification schedule which was not difficult. Wish I could have acquired one of those colt 45’s when I was serving, but that would have been a Federal crime.

Sic Semper Tyrannis July 17, 2015 at 2:15 pm

I’m with you, but I settled on 9, Hits are better off the get go,

Tazmaniac July 17, 2015 at 1:26 pm

Nah, he would have had a FNH 5.7 if he googled coolest handgun ever. That or a Desert eagle 50 cal or S&W 500 on and on. The Glock is just the least expensive, most reliable pistol you can buy. My H&K beats that Model 21 by a country mile in the performance and sexy dept.

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erneba July 17, 2015 at 5:39 pm

I looked at H&K 9mm, decided on the Beretta PX4. I think the PX4 and the H&K are two of the best looking traditional style auto pistols around.
The FNH 5.7 is a great gun, but I prefer the traditional style.

Tazmaniac July 17, 2015 at 6:01 pm

I have the HK USP full size in .45, thanks to Corrupt in Columbia, and a P2000 in 9mm. I also have a Glock 17, my workhorse, not pretty, but indestrutible and up to 33 rounds. My next want is a snub nose 44 mag or 357 for a camping, hiking, and fishing gun. I just can’t rationalize buying the 5.7 with the proprietary ammo and relatively high price for a “novelty”. If a truckload of cash gets dumped in my lap that tune will change quick!

erneba July 17, 2015 at 6:24 pm

Yeah, the initial cost of the five Seven and then the on-going ammo cost pretty much eliminated me from that market.

Tazmaniac July 17, 2015 at 6:30 pm

My next long gun want is the Windham Weaponry AR in the AK caliber. May even get a hunting license to go deer/hog hunting with it.

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 6:29 pm

Snub .44 or.357 is a bear to shoot accurately. A 4 inch 686 Smith in .357 will reach out and touch anything within reason though it is a K frame and a little heavy.

Tazmaniac July 17, 2015 at 6:46 pm

I recently did well with a CA Bulldog in 44 spl at 50ft, though I suspect it is a way lighter load than the mags. Felt pretty smooth. Kind of shocked myself with how tight in the bull I was and I think my brother-in-law probably has gotten rid of it after I showed him up. ;-)

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 6:50 pm

If you’re shooting +Ps or just specials, it’s not too bad. I shoot a very hot magnum load with a heavy bullet and even in a K frame it’s a handful, the upside is one shot is all you need most of the time.

Tazmaniac July 17, 2015 at 7:03 pm

My thought pattern is to keep a shot shell for snakes in the first chamber and bear repellent in the remaining ones. All as a last resort of course, not like I want to hike through the woods dropping critters everywhere. Figured the snub would make for a nice compact carry.

The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 7:08 pm

In the South, the shot shell thing is probably more important than bear repellant but up North, I’d go three and three.with the bear repellant being the heaviest loss I could handle and a speed loader of six more.

Sic Semper Tyrannis July 17, 2015 at 1:39 pm

UHH.

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Another bad day for Democrats July 17, 2015 at 10:09 am

Another bad day for Obama and the Democrats. But you won’t see any media reporting it. The SILENCE is deafening.

Even the FBI is having a difficult time admitted it’s Islamic Terrorism, because of the damage it does to the Democrat Party, Hillary and Obama.

But the people know.

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Your Average Republican July 17, 2015 at 10:16 am

This guy believing in Islam is proof positive Islam is a bad religion and we should demonize all Muslim believers on account of this one man’s actions.

Dylann Roof being part of a Lutheran church is not proof positive Christianity is a bad religion and we should not demonize all Christian believers on account of this one man’s actions.

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Bible Thumper July 17, 2015 at 10:39 am

It’s not just the actions one man that makes a religion evil. It is the combined evil acts over a sustained period that makes Lutheranism the evil religion that it is.

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Pope Francis July 17, 2015 at 1:54 pm

I would say so. Luther was a heretic.

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Soft Sigh from Hell July 17, 2015 at 4:58 pm

And a vehement antisemite.

idcydm July 17, 2015 at 4:06 pm

You sound like *Your Average Democrat*.

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You elected him twice July 17, 2015 at 11:30 am

Not the KoolAid drinking idiot Dems. They will refuse to accept the obvious. It runs counter to all of the votes they anticipate for allowing all of the illegals and criminals who will vote for them. The American people have no sanctuary from the crime and terrorism that will come from Obama’s policies!
In Obama’s book he states “He will stand with the Muslims”.
He was raised a Muslim by his Communist and Socialist mentors and family.
The end of his term cannot come soon enough. Please DO NOT elect Hillary. She will want to disarm the American people and only the Criminals and Terrorist will have guns, leaving the American People defenseless.

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JayJay July 17, 2015 at 11:54 am

Too many weapons in the country and not enough fed’s would be left alive to take them all.

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Alexander_N July 17, 2015 at 10:21 am

I wonder if Dylaan Roof’s name would have been Muhammad Youssef Abdulazeez, if what he did would have been termed domestic terrorism without one minute of real investigation…

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Just another day July 17, 2015 at 10:51 am

Nope. Terrorizing black people is just business as usual in SC.

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Quietus July 17, 2015 at 10:42 am

Horrific racially and religiously motivated crime.

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The Colonel July 17, 2015 at 10:53 am

Don’t start, we’ll all be in rehab and Will will go broke…

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 17, 2015 at 6:57 pm

…we’ll all be in rehab…

Rehab is for quitters…

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TontoBubbaGoldstein July 17, 2015 at 11:29 am

A bit early in the day for firewater, but WTH!

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Sic Semper Tyrannis July 17, 2015 at 1:29 pm

Been there, bonk.

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JayJay July 17, 2015 at 11:51 am

Abdulazeez need to be buried in a casket full of pig blood.

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CrustyCombatVET July 17, 2015 at 11:53 am

Not just Marines are banned from carrying firearms at DoD facilities, ALL services members and DoD civilians are.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis July 17, 2015 at 1:32 pm

Unless guard units, see the SOP on the issue.

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TroubleBaby July 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm

“It’s time for the White House to wake up and tell the truth and the truth is that radical Islam is at war with us, and we must start by being honest about that.”

Can someone show me on a map where “radical Islam” is so I know where we’ll be dropping bombs next?

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Tazmaniac July 17, 2015 at 1:28 pm

Everywhere.

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RogueElephant July 17, 2015 at 1:17 pm

Will they take down the ISIS flag from the White House ???

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Tazmaniac July 17, 2015 at 1:46 pm

Luckily, the four families need not worry that Obama is going to show up with a box full of cash nor need they worry about him showing up a the funeral with a fundraising speech in his pocket. It is sickening they way military folks are shit on in general and then he puts his special sauce on top. You would think grown ass service people are capable of , and should be required to, carry sidearms in the performance of their DUTIES. They are efing SOLDIERS,

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idcydm July 17, 2015 at 3:56 pm

Rest in peace and ignore the partisan BS.

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Dune Coons July 17, 2015 at 4:33 pm

We need to bring back some old school slurs. Sand Nigger is a perfectly good slur and useful for these situations. Dune Coon is another good one.

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Sand Klan July 17, 2015 at 4:54 pm

Israelis are pretty much Sand Serbs or Sand Klan.

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