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US House Passes Keystone XL … Again

OIL PIPELINE BILL COULD BE HEADED TO BARACK OBAMA’S DESK By FITSNEWS || For the ninth time, the U.S. House of Representatives has voted to authorize the construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline – a $7 billion, 1,600-mile project that’s supposed to create upwards of 300,000 U.S. jobs. “This…

OIL PIPELINE BILL COULD BE HEADED TO BARACK OBAMA’S DESK

By FITSNEWS || For the ninth time, the U.S. House of Representatives has voted to authorize the construction of the Keystone XL oil pipeline – a $7 billion, 1,600-mile project that’s supposed to create upwards of 300,000 U.S. jobs.

“This will create other economic activity,” the bill’s sponsor, U.S. Rep. Bill Cassidy of Louisiana said. “This will ripple out through the economy.”

Cassidy is facing U.S. Sen. Mary Landrieu in a runoff election on December 6.  He is widely expected to defeat the incumbent Democrat – who along with several “centrist” Democrats is supporting a Senate version of the legislation.  Assuming Keystone XL authorization passes the U.S. Senate in a vote on Tuesday, it would force U.S. president Barack Obama to take action on the measure.

Permits for Keystone XL were first requested in 2008 – but Obama has repeatedly blocked the project.

In fact he is widely expected to veto the legislation in the event it reaches his desk.

Transcanada – the company pushing for the pipeline – may no longer care what Obama thinks, though.  That’s because its leaders have figured out another way to get their oil – 168 billion proven barrels, at last check – where it needs to go.

It’s called Energy East, a proposed $10.7 billion, 2,858-mile pipeline that would carry 1.1 million barrels of crude oil every day from Alberta and Saskatchewan to refineries in eastern Canada.  So instead of Louisiana and Texas providing supertanker access to Canadian crude – our neighbors to the north will “keep it in the family,” setting up tanker access at Saint John, New Brunswick.

This website has consistently supported Keystone XL.  Multiple Transcanada pipelines already run through the United States, and it makes no sense for us to send this business (and the jobs that go with it) someplace else.

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43 comments

Smirks November 14, 2014 at 2:11 pm

It won’t create jobs significant jobs.

http://www.politifact.com/punditfact/statements/2014/nov/11/anna-kooiman/fox-news-host-keystone-pipeline-would-create-tens-/

I’m sure eventually it’ll create oil spill cleanup jobs. Hopefully that won’t cost thousands upon thousands of people their drinking water, though.

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idcydm November 14, 2014 at 5:34 pm

Are you saying the construction jobs are not significant? I’ll agree they are temporary, most construction jobs are, once the job is finished they move to the next job. I’ll bet the contractor that built your house isn’t still building it.

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Temporary Jobs November 14, 2014 at 6:34 pm

Yes. Temporary jobs are insignificant.

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idcydm November 14, 2014 at 6:44 pm

You can’t be for real, constructions job are insignificant???

BTW what other user names do you use?

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Takin Care of Business November 14, 2014 at 6:59 pm

They’ll all go to illegal immigrants anyway.

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idcydm November 14, 2014 at 7:04 pm

Don’t think Elvis would like that.

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GrandTango November 14, 2014 at 2:17 pm

Bend over FITS….they are using that pipeline to ream you clueless cretins once again…and you’re too stupid to figure out you’ve been civilly unioned by your leftwing pitchers….LMAO…..Dumb@$$…

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FastEddy23 November 14, 2014 at 2:33 pm

“… a $7 billion, 1,600-mile project that’s supposed to create upwards of 300,000 U.S. jobs. …”

Grand, you got it right.

Fortunately, once the pipeline gets “approved”, the g’ment unions will get cut out of the loop on the bidding wars and the private contractors will break it up state by state, oil company by oil company, branch by branch … and the actual installed costs will go way down.

Don’t get this wrong, the costs to g’ment will rise, but the actual costs of construction will not be anywhere close to what g’ment gets “charged”.

Investigative reporter needed: How much of the US$7 Billion will actually go to create jobs and buy pipe? I’m betting that g’ment and the poli-wogs are skimming about half off of the top.

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Rockty Tangooo November 14, 2014 at 4:22 pm

Pipe will be made in China – so pretty much – it’s just a free easement to the oil companies with no jobs. It’s a reamin’ for the screamin’ like Grand Tango, who apparently is planning a nice weekend with his Mom. #$&*%#*$& idiots.

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FastEddy23 November 17, 2014 at 12:28 pm

The pipe is NOT made in China. The expensive parts of the pipeline are all Made In USA, the valves, the flow controls, the pumps, etc., … The basic pipe is actually going to be made in Canada (by Canadians using Michigan & Minnesota iron and Montana coal), and some exotic machine parts will be made in Mexico (by Texans). … Consider the transportation expense: USA iron and coal are close to the pipeline installation, China not.

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Squishy123 November 14, 2014 at 2:35 pm

Just in time as the price of oil is plummeting and production will begin to slow down.

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John Boy November 14, 2014 at 2:36 pm

300,000 jobs?? Complete bullshit to convince idiots think it’s going to save us.

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Fits Ain't No Republican November 14, 2014 at 3:18 pm

Oh Republicans buy into this kind of talk all the time.

Then agains Fits is not a Republican.

Hahahaha,

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The Colonel November 14, 2014 at 3:49 pm

Is it worth it if it creates 30,000 jobs?

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Rocky November 14, 2014 at 4:20 pm

Let’s face it – it’s Canadian jobs – and not a drop of free Molson in exchange. I thik we should invade Canada.

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The Colonel November 14, 2014 at 4:24 pm

So the Canadians will build the 1,600 miles of it in the U.S. and run the ports, refineries etc?

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Rocky November 14, 2014 at 5:05 pm

Ever see that movie with John Candy? You can’t trust ’em. They steal baseball, try and dominate in hockey. And they have that whole little eastern section speaking French. What the Hell is that? No sir Colonel, they’ll come down here and hire illegals to build the pipeline using Chinese steel pipes and Brazlian lining. We’ll get the shaft again, and they won’t even share the oil with us. I say let ’em freeze. And besides, the Arabs run the ports, and the Liberians run the ships.

The Colonel November 14, 2014 at 5:23 pm

The ships are registered in Liberia but very few Liberians work on them, lots of Filipinos and other Pacific rim types.

SomalianRoadCorp November 15, 2014 at 8:16 pm

Yep. Us American mariners can only find work on the Offshore Supply Vessels, since they’re the only ones still required by the Jones Act to employ us. Isn’t cheap, subsidized foreign labor great?

shifty henry November 14, 2014 at 6:55 pm

You Might Be Canadian If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Your municipality buys a Zamboni before a bus.

You understand the Labatt Blue commercials.

You can repeat the entire Molson’s
Canadian ‘The Rant’.

You dismiss all beers under 6% as
“for children and the elderly.”

You killed your best friend for Another
Roadside Attraction tickets.

You know more than 3 guys named Gordon.

You have worn shorts and a parka at the
same time

You owe more money on your snowmobile
than on your car.

At least twice a year, the kitchen doubles a meat processing plant.

You think the start of deer season is a national holiday.

You know which leaves make for good toilet paper.

The trunk of your car doubles as a freezer.

TontoBubbaGoldstein November 16, 2014 at 9:28 am

As we type, the Canucks are massing at our border preparing to invade.

We had better pull our forces out of the middle east and fight them up there, lest we be forced to fight them down here.

TBG fears we will soon be speaking Canadian, eh?

euwe max November 14, 2014 at 5:50 pm

So the Canadians will build the 1,600 miles of it in the U.S.
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Phase 1 (done)

This 3,456 kilometres (2,147 mi) long pipeline runs from Hardisty, Alberta, to the United States refineries in Wood River, Illinois, and Patoka, Illinois.

Phase 2 (done)

The Keystone-Cushing pipeline phase connected the Keystone pipeline (phase 1) in Steele City, Nebraskasouth through Kansas to the oil hub and tank farm in Cushing, Oklahoma, a distance of 291 miles (468 km). It was constructed in 2010 and went online in February 2011

Phase 3a (done)

The Cushing MarketLink pipeline phase started at Cushing, Oklahoma, where American-produced oil is added to the pipeline, then runs south 435 miles (700 km) to a delivery point near terminals in Nederland, Texas, to serve the Port Arthur, Texas, marketplace. Keystone started pumping oil through this section in January 2014. Oil producers in the U.S. pushed for this phase so the glut of oil can be distributed out of the large oil tank farms and distribution center in Cushing.

Phase 3b (construction)

The Houston Lateral pipeline phase is approximate 47 miles (76 km) pipeline to transport crude oil from the pipeline in Liberty County, Texas to the Houston area. This phase is currently under construction and scheduled to go online in 2015.

Phase 4 (proposed)

The proposed Keystone XL pipeline starts from the same area in Alberta, Canada, as the Phase 1 pipeline. The Canadian section would consist of 526 kilometres (327 mi) of new pipeline. It would enter the United States at Morgan, Montana, and travel through Baker, Montana, where American-produced oil would be added to the pipeline, then it would travel through South Dakota and Nebraska, where it would join the existing Keystone pipelines at Steele City, Nebraska. This phase has generated the greatest controversy because of its routing over the top of the Ogallala Aquifer in Nebraska.

FastEddy23 November 14, 2014 at 10:18 pm

To the max: you seem to be well versed in the g’ment proposal for the XL … Which is really a lot of smoke and mirror speculation … a boiler plate paper Granfuloon at best.

The actual pipeline will be built according to what is required by the Canadian oil producers, the N & S Dakota producers, El Paso NG, ConocoPhillips, et al, need it to be. The end result still is Yet To Be Determined, and the oil markets, supply and demand, will be the ultimate arbitrators of what gets built, where.

This is not a Central Planning G’ment Hose-Up in the making. This is a capitalist market driven project … and that is what has Obama and the “progressives” in such a tizzy.

FastEddy23 November 14, 2014 at 10:36 pm

Absolutely!

And the XL will revitalize the entire Midwest economy! … Even in St. Louie.

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Bible Thumper November 14, 2014 at 3:17 pm

Boy! Never seen so many stupid comments. The only reason Obama was able to block Keystone was because it crosses an international bourder. The EPA approved it. It is the State Dept. that is blocking it.

As for jobs created, that for the free market to decide. It is not the business of government. If the market decides Eastern Canada so be it. Leave the government out of it.

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euwe max November 14, 2014 at 5:41 pm

ogallala aquifer

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Bible Thumper November 14, 2014 at 5:52 pm

Keystone would be one of many pipelines over the Ogallala aquifer.
http://blog.heartland.org/2012/01/map-shows-keystone-xl-pipeline-would-be-one-of-many-over-aquifer/

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euwe max November 14, 2014 at 6:35 pm

Name another 1 million barrel per day in service OIL pipeline over the aquifer.

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Bible Thumper November 14, 2014 at 8:11 pm

We’ll name the next one, euwe max.

FastEddy23 November 15, 2014 at 10:59 am

Max: are you saying that the XL pipeline routed over the western Nebraska Ogallala Aquifer will be more harmful to that regional environment than the approx. one thousand mile long coal trains that traverse the region now?

My understanding is that the reason g’ment epa approved the XL through that area because it would comparitively improve the environment … (and of course put boo koo Bucks into poli-wog pockets.

Soft Sigh from Hell November 15, 2014 at 12:14 pm

What would spilling some coal hurt?

Though I suppose the engines’ diesel tanks could leak.

FastEddy23 November 17, 2014 at 12:51 pm

This is tough to explain:
1) The coal gets burned and releases more radioactivity than all of the nuke power plants in North America, combined.
2) The coal gets burned releasing vastly more CO2 than the burning of oil or natural gas.
3) There is no such thing as “clean coal”.
4) One coal train wreck (and there have been many) creates more environmental pollution into local ground water than any pipe line leaks.

Tom November 16, 2014 at 5:38 pm

Republicans don’t do facts. They stick to broad principals. Facts require you to know what you are talking about instead of just spouting talking points handed out by the fake news network.

SCBlues November 15, 2014 at 4:33 am

“Boy! Never seen so many stupid comments”
Yours needs to be at the very, very top of the list . . .

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euwe max November 17, 2014 at 2:09 am

Rosebud Sioux Tribe: House Vote On Keystone XL Pipeline An ‘Act Of War’

The president of South Dakota’s Rosebud Sioux (Sicangu Lakota Oyate) tribe has called the House of Representatives’ vote to force approval of the Keystone XL pipeline an “act of war,” the Summit County Citizen’s Voice reported on Saturday.

“The House has now signed our death warrants and the death warrants of our children and grandchildren. The Rosebud Sioux Tribe will not allow this pipeline through our lands,” President Cyril Scott said in a statement. “We will close our reservation borders to Keystone XL.”

Scott said he and other tribal elders have not been appropriately consulted on the pipeline, which would run through the tribe’s land. He also contended the House vote violates the 1851 and 1868 Fort Laramie treaties, which gave the Black Hills to the Sioux Nation, according to the Summit County Citizen’s Voice.

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Bible Thumper November 17, 2014 at 6:24 am

I have “Reservations”.

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Grand Tango Announcement November 14, 2014 at 3:32 pm

Commenting on my part will be light this weekend. My lovely Mother, the Mrs. Tango found a deal on body wax at the Godiva Hair Supply outlet store. Therefore, I will be confined to the trailer this weekend as we attempt to remove all of her body hair. In as much as she has more hair than an ape and coupled with the fact that the last time we attempted this the neighbors heard her screams and called the police who arrived en masse, fully outfitted in SWAT gear, we will have to take it slow. The police are still a little edgy after the METH explosion that occurred through no fault of my own but did manage to consume half of the trailer. Since we had a double wide we merely had that half removed and proceeded to negotiate a better lot rental rate for the single wide. You can’t get one by me, the Grand Tango. Unlike Will, I will not be leaf peeping but I might check out the tranny next door if she leaves the shades up. As for antiques, well mamma’s moped is about the only thing over 100 years old around here. We like the shiny pressed wood that has the more modern look when it comes to furniture. Luckily, mamma is on the vape pin with me now so the only smoke will come from the pellet heater that sits in the corner. Have a great weekend. T

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Rocky November 14, 2014 at 4:18 pm

This pipeline will create millions of new jobs as we have millions of barrels of oil delivered through this pipeline to the United Staets. It will result in much cheaper gas because supply will drive prices down, and gasoline should reach $1 a gallon – and we will have total energy indepen…….. what? You mean all this pipeline does is pump shale oil from Canada down to New Orleans to be processed in offshore refinaries and sold to Europe and China? WTF. Well the jobs, the millions of new jobs that will be crea….What? You mean it will employ about 400 people for one year, and then the total job creation drops to just 50 guys a year to look for leaks? WTF – wait – but someone’s got to make that pipe – that will be 1,000s of jobs here in the good ole’ U………What? The pipe is being made in China? WTF. And Korean? No way. What about those ships that will ship that oil from New Orleans – What? Made in Japan and Korea? Well still, it’s oil, and it’s manly and ugly and messy – so any real man would be all for this.

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RogueElephant November 16, 2014 at 7:42 am

Just the hope of the additional oil adding to the already full market thus driving down the price of oil even further is reason enough to build the pipeline. We can starve the Arabs out and thereby starve the “Islamic fundamentalists” that they keep in operation. These blood suckers have lived the good life and screwed up the world off our backs far too long.

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Bill November 16, 2014 at 5:35 pm

These blood suckers have lived the good life and screwed up the world off our backs far too long.

I thought you were talking about Republican Politicians, like Mark Sanford and Mick Mulvaney.

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FastEddy23 November 17, 2014 at 9:25 am

Spot On! … Prescient … The international “world” price of crude oil has Putin in a tizzy, too. And, not really surprisingly, the EU g’ment is filling its collective pants over the dropping price of oil … killing an otherwise massive tax revenue stream. (In Europe, the effective price of a gallon of gasoline is over 9 bucks (equivalent), = more than 2/3rds taxes = unsustainable … and there is a growing black market in fuels.)

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Bible Thumper November 16, 2014 at 8:46 pm

If you you want the economy to grow and incomes to rise, you must eliminate jobs. Yes, eliminate jobs. Of course you need the economy to create replacement jobs, but eliminating unnecessary jobs adds to per capita productivity.

Saying that Keystone XL only permanently employs 50 people is like saying that the Greer inland port only permanently employs 30 people. In fact the port probably eliminated more trucking jobs than created port jobs. The inland port creates hundreds of other jobs by making Upstate industries more competitive.
Deepening the harbor in Charleston probably reduces jobs because fewer people are needed for the more automated loading and unloading of larger ships, but it makes South Carolina more cost competitive and imports cheaper.

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FastEddy23 November 17, 2014 at 9:10 am

Totally! … surprising how soon they forget what its like to have a solid, growing economy.

University of Madrid (Spain) economics department report of last year and previous years, after extensive surveys of the EU job markets:

Every government job displaces three private sector jobs.
Every “green” government subsidized job displaces more than five private sector jobs.
Every government sponsored “job retraining” project displaces at least two “private sector trained” jobs.

Although the Charleston Port Project will certainly create some jobs directly, although probably not as many as promised by the poli-wogs, the eventual “trickle down” to private sector jobs creation will enliven Charleston’s economy. … In conjunction with an XL type pipeline and expanded rail services to the port, the possibilities are almost endless.

… Next? … A freight primary jet port other than Charleston International, ‘cause by 2020 the freight traffic will exceed the passenger traffic. …

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