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On SC Attorney General Alan Wilson And The Gays …

DON’T HATE …  By FITSNEWS  ||  You can count the number of people in South Carolina politics who impress us on one hand … and with good reason.. The Palmetto State’s “leadership” is awash in corrupt self-service For a good while, though, one of those people who has impressed us has…

DON’T HATE … 

By FITSNEWS  ||  You can count the number of people in South Carolina politics who impress us on one hand … and with good reason.. The Palmetto State’s “leadership” is awash in corrupt self-service

For a good while, though, one of those people who has impressed us has been S.C. Attorney General Alan Wilson.

It wasn’t always this way …

When Wilson ran for attorney general in 2010 we were highly skeptical – and critical – of his bid.  We figured he was nothing more than another guffawing glad-hander like his fiscally liberal father, Joe Wilson, who briefly tacked to the right as the Tea Party movement ebbed (but has since shifted back to the left).

We were wrong about Wilson though …

He’s been (thus far) a pleasant surprise in office, emerging as one of the handful of South Carolina elected officials willing to take a stand against the status quo that’s been holding our state back for so many years.

Wilson’s record isn’t perfect, mind you … he swung and missed badly when he failed to go after crystal clear corruption “allegations” against Gov. Nikki Haley, but to his credit he aggressively pursued complaints against former Lt. Gov. Ken Ard and S.C. Speaker of the House Bobby Harrell.

The Harrell case meant taking on a guy who was – at the time Wilson’s investigation began – one of the two most powerful politicians in the state.

Wilson has cultivated (and up to this point earned) a reputation as a boy scout … a prosecutor who doesn’t play favorites and who decides cases based on their merits, not their politics.  That’s something South Carolina sorely needs – and something most voters (“Republicans,” Democrats and independents ) appreciate.

That’s why it’s too bad Wilson has taken a bit of a black eye lately on the issue of gay marriage …

Over the past few weeks – as South Carolina’s gay marriage ban has begun to crumble – Wilson and Haley have been aggressive in their defense of the 2006 constitutional amendment that outlawed the practice in the Palmetto State.

For those of you in need of a recap, in late July the U.S. Fourth Circuit court of appeals struck down Virginia’s gay marriage ban.   Earlier this month, the U.S. Supreme Court refused to reverse this decision, meaning South Carolina’s ban (also pending before the Fourth Circuit) is on the chopping block.

GAY MARRIAGE SUPPORTERS
GAY MARRIAGE SUPPORTERS

Of course the ban hasn’t been struck down yet … and so the S.C. Supreme Court has stepped in to say that until such a ruling arrives, the 2006 constitutional amendment banning gay marriage remains in effect.

With Wilson as its chief defender …

To be clear: Wilson has not said personally whether he supports or opposes gay marriage – or whether he believes government should sanction or prohibit the practice – he’s simply argued that the state’s pending case before the U.S. Fourth Circuit court of appeals should be adjudicated before the will of 78 percent of the people (well, 78 percent of the state’s 2006 general electorate) is overturned.

“(If) you have an attorney representing you and your attorney hits a wall, do you want your attorney to throw up his hands and say ‘Sorry, I can’t help you’? Or do you want your attorney to exhaust every legal option until there are no options left?,” Wilson told a group in Rock Hill, S.C. this week. “I’m not opposed to anything. I’m just for the rule of law and my role under the constitution as the state’s attorney.”

He’s playing it by the book, in other words … damning the public consequences one way or the other.

One Democratic operative who spoke with us on condition of anonymity said she wasn’t buying Wilson’s “boy scout act.”

“(FITS has) a man-crush on him so you call him a boy scout,” she said.  “But he’s being political – he’s pandering to the majority of the state still supporting the ban.”

Man-crush … ironic terminology under the circumstances …

Here’s the thing, though: If Wilson is indeed using the state’s legal defense of this soon-to-be-overturned law for political gain, he should probably work on more sharply honing his pandering skills.  The vast majority of the statements issued by his office on this matter have been downright curt.  In fact we’ve even noted in prior reports that it seemed Wilson was going through the motions in defending the state gay marriage ban – prompting a statewide social conservative group to challenge him to be more vocal.

He hasn’t really obliged that request … merely arguing that the rule of law should be upheld.

Worth noting … not all Attorneys General agree with Wilson.  In North Carolina, Democratic Attorney General Roy Cooper ruled that the Fourth Circuit decision applied to his citizens because the Tar Heel State is within that court’s jurisdiction – effectively invalidating the state’s 2012 gay marriage ban.  Also worth noting?  Wilson has yet to articulate the correct position on gay (or straight) marriage: That it’s an institution of the church and therefore something government shouldn’t have a damn thing to do with …

Per the Fourteenth Amendment, civil unions must be recognized equally – and benefits and privileges afforded on the basis of such recognition must be provided equally – but marriage is not the purview of the government.

It is a decision that should forever be left to individual congregations …

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67 comments

tomstickler October 15, 2014 at 1:26 pm

Parsing the distinction between “civil union” and “marriage” again.

In point of fact, a purely religious rite of marriage is not recognized by the state unless the officiant can truly speak the words “by the power invested in me by the state, I now pronounce you married.”

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Smirks October 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm

Just think, if we were in a libertarian paradise, the pastor could marry you “by the power invested in [him] by Match.com Marriage Services™” instead!

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Smirks October 15, 2014 at 4:16 pm

Just think, if we were in a libertarian paradise, the pastor could marry you “by the power invested in [him] by Match.com Marriage Services™” instead!

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Just another guy October 15, 2014 at 1:58 pm

Don’t you get pissed with Obama and Holder pick which laws to follow and which ones they say are wrong??? Isn’t it his job to represent the people in these matters, whether or not he believes in them? Sure he is going to lose and the taxpayer will spend money to defend it, but when we voted for the amendment of the Constitution banning it, you should of known damn well money would be spent defending it.

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Settle in to reality October 15, 2014 at 2:20 pm

“Don’t you get pissed with Obama and Holder pick which laws to follow and which ones they say are wrong??? ”

Happens every day at all levels of gov’t….40,000 laws and more added every year…never gonna change until the system collapses one day.

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Wilson is stupid October 16, 2014 at 2:55 am

Bad logic.
1. Obama nor Holder have to adhere to South Carolina’s laws.
2. Neither does anyone else, they are unconstitutional.

“Sure he is going to lose and the taxpayer will spend money to defend it, but when we voted for the amendment of the Constitution banning it, you should of known damn well money would be spent defending it”.

Dumbest sh*t ever. Wilson isn’t some kind of hero for fighting some battle that he is bound to lose anyway, and spending to do it. Plus, he opens up to more lawsuits from couples wishing to get married and being denied. Every other AG in the 4th Circuit has basically given up. He’s just doing this to prove a point. Whatever the fuck that point is.

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Native Ink October 15, 2014 at 2:05 pm

Spending money to fight a rearguard action that will inevitably end in defeat doesn’t sound like fiscal conservatism to me. The AGs in North Carolina and West Virginia, two states that are also culturally conservative, have thrown in the towel rather than waste taxpayer money. Alan Wilson doesn’t look very good in comparison.

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Guest October 15, 2014 at 3:02 pm

There is no “taxpayer money” being spent here. The AG’s office is handling it – no outside counsel – therefore no extra dollars.

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FIT2BTIED October 15, 2014 at 3:10 pm

Taxpayers pay the salary and benefits of the employees at the AG’s office. If they stop wasting time on this dead issue, they could spend time rooting out public corruption or prosecuting pedophiles or…

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Guest October 17, 2014 at 10:50 am

They already do that – and do it quite well! Get over yourself. Who are you – Bobby Harrell’s son?

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mamatiger92 October 15, 2014 at 3:11 pm

who the hell do you think pays the AG & his staff?

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1689 October 15, 2014 at 6:56 pm

Opportunity cost is a difficult concept to master if one’s IQ is 100 or less.

Let’s give him a break this time mama.

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Smirks October 15, 2014 at 4:18 pm

Fiscal conservatism is blowing millions on whatever the fuck you want as long as you cut taxes and blame the impending deficit on the Democrats.

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guest October 15, 2014 at 5:52 pm

Gay marriage is a loser for Democrats in 2016. NO President has ever been elected supporting gay marriage. Obama would have lost in 2008/2012 if he would have supported such perversion.

Just like issue of immigration turned against Democrats, so will gay marriage.

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Come Out Of The Closet October 15, 2014 at 5:56 pm

See ya at the poles…;) No, that’s not a typo.

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No Longer The 20th Century October 15, 2014 at 6:00 pm

Flawed logic. Before 2008 a black man has never been President.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 15, 2014 at 8:59 pm

Aye, but you see in S.C., folks are more than happy to waste millions in taxpayer dollars to defend bigotry even though they will lose in the end. Hell, we started the Civil War on those grounds. Not much has changed at all in 150 years.

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Doris October 15, 2014 at 2:06 pm

If Alan needs directions to the offices of some of his AG employees who may be involved in a same sex marriage as soon as it is legal in SC, tell him to let us know.

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SC Political Digest October 15, 2014 at 2:16 pm

Self-obsess much?

PS sexual preference is NOT what entitles a citizen to civil rights….or the basis to define marriage in accordance with your political special interest group.

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mamatiger92 October 15, 2014 at 2:34 pm

“Self-obsess much?”

oh, the irony…

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SC Political Digest October 15, 2014 at 2:48 pm

LMAO…You are a true liberal idiot trying use a term I introduced to you, and making a fool of yourself. . Unless you’re referring to yourselves, in relation to me…I talk about issues, public figures and politicians…

But you people are OBSESSED w/ me…as if you can attack me into absolving or your ignorance, corruption, and lack if intellect. LMAO…

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mamatiger92 October 15, 2014 at 3:10 pm

obsessed with YOU? seriously? you come here day after day trying to drum up traffic for that sad excuse for a blog of yours.
oh, and a bit of advice, if you want to be taken seriously, you should probably eliminate the sophomoric “LMAO” from every post. unless middle schoolers are your target audience of course.

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SC Political Digest October 15, 2014 at 3:26 pm

It’s funny: I have made a living at analysis. It is my forte. And I’ve been posting on forums since at least 1998.

I have developed a keen ability to go for the substance in any issue, and detect the flaws of those who perpetually fail.

And one mainstay in my posting history, is the hate-filled liberal idiot, who gauges his intelligence by launching un-supported, ignorance-and cliche-based insults toward me.

If provocation is a measure, I may be the top internet performer of all time. I have attracted more dolts, who offer no substance, than maybe any other commentator in the annals of cyberspace.

And really all I’ve seen any of you do is get so p!$$#d off, that you resort to personal attacks, that are as bitter as they are absurd…

You rail on about how insignificant I am, but you truly are obsessed w/ first anything I say…and then any response I render about you…..

You are empty, trite, dull, and worst of all (to a writer) you lack any meaningful content…

I once heard that big minds key on ideas. Medium minds joust with events. And SMALL minds are obsessed w/ talking about people.

Considering I’m a version of people, and all you really talk about is me…you must be very small-minded fools.

You really think if you can – in your wildest dreams – best me, it will absolve you of the ignorance and failure that characterizes your meaningless, manipulated and mis-guided lives. Don’t you?

mamatiger92 October 15, 2014 at 3:30 pm

“And one mainstay in my posting history, is the hate-filled liberal idiot, who gauges his intelligence by launching un-supported, ignorance-and cliche-based insults toward me.”
speaking of cliché’s. you may want to google “the pot calling the kettle black”

“Considering I’m a version of people, and all you really talk about is me…you must be very small-minded fools.”
seriously. you get paid for crap like this? translation, please.

oh, and you forgot the “LMAO”.

That was easy October 15, 2014 at 3:34 pm

I’m the best. There, I won.

Everybody October 15, 2014 at 3:43 pm

You’ve been unemployed that long!?! Get a fucking job already, mooch.

GrandTango October 15, 2014 at 3:42 pm

When you’re on governmental assistance, you have a lot of time in your day.

libs are stupid October 15, 2014 at 5:47 pm

These morons think they have found a “winning” issue in 2016-gay marriage.Just like the immigration issued turned against Dems, the gay marriage debate will as well.
No President has EVER been elected that supports gay marriage. Obama was smart enough not to say he was before the 2008/2012 elections as he would have never won.
Let the perverts crow. It will take em down the sewer in 2016.

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SC Political Digest October 15, 2014 at 8:52 pm

Great post. And you are correct. 80% in SC oppose redefining marriage for gay leftwing special interests. In NC 60% oppose, but they forced it anyway.

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lolololol October 15, 2014 at 2:22 pm

Gays and homosexuals are a freaky circus act …. lololololol.

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lolololol October 15, 2014 at 2:25 pm

Lesbian Mafia Houston Mayor Demands Churches Turnover Sermons or be thrown in jail for contempt. Fire Hell and Brimstone, the Homosexual Mafia

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lolololol October 15, 2014 at 2:27 pm

Lesbian Mafia Houston Mayor Demands Churches Turnover Sermons Watch this video released today >>> There is going to be a violent war against the homosexuals >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxhbak_o8uE

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Frank October 15, 2014 at 3:47 pm

lol. War? From you? Shit, you aren’t going to do a god damned thing, but sit there and watch the rest of the world move on. Watching a YouTube video and commenting on the Internet is the most effort the world can expect from you. Coward.

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lolololol October 15, 2014 at 2:37 pm

Lesbian Houston Mayor Threatens Pastors to Jail — Houston Texas lesbian mayor Annise Parker threatens pastors with Jail via contempt of court for not submitting all sermons on “gay” subjects. So much for “tolerance” and freedom of speech. This in relation to a so called hate crime law for tolerating SIN. More below
More here: http://www.breitbart.com/Breitbart-Te

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SC Political Digest October 15, 2014 at 2:49 pm

link SCPSD…We are up on that, as FITS fears being “outed” for what he and the Homosexual Lobby are doing.

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Backlash Comes Against Homos October 15, 2014 at 2:48 pm

The city of Houston has issued subpoenas demanding a group of pastors turn over any sermons dealing with homosexuality, gender identity or Annise Parker, the city’s first openly lesbian mayor. And those ministers who fail to comply could be held in contempt of court.

“The city’s subpoena of sermons and other pastoral communications is both needless and unprecedented,” Alliance Defending Freedom attorney Christina Holcomb said in a statement. “The city council and its attorneys are engaging in an inquisition designed to stifle any critique of its actions.”

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2014/10/14/city-houston-demands-pastors-turn-over-sermons/

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Good news October 15, 2014 at 3:29 pm

Good fo her. Now start taxing them.

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Death 666 October 15, 2014 at 4:40 pm

You should kill yourself. Nobody would care. hahaha.

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Good news October 16, 2014 at 3:37 am

I don’t know, got five likes to your zero likes.

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Smirks October 15, 2014 at 4:34 pm

>foxnews

lol

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SC Political Digest October 15, 2014 at 2:55 pm

Check out SCPSD…We have a piece up about the lesbian mayor of Houston trying to prosecute ministers if they say anything she does not like about gays…

Kinda like the Democrats Mark of the Devil..is it not? …Be pro-homosexual or got to jail for it…Did you EVER think America would some to this point???….And Where is FITS on it, besides SILENT????

Thought FITS was a Liberal-Tarian. Yet your rights to oppose homosexual lifestyles does not exist according the Gay-banging FITS…

Is freedom what Ron Paul is about? Is that not what FITS has sold you stupid Liberal-Tarians on? If Ervin or French is elected, will they subpoena misters and MAKE them preach for gay rights?

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Homosexuals Are Insane October 15, 2014 at 2:58 pm

They are going to incite vigilantism on a massive scale. These homosexuals are totally evil and insane. They are awakening a sleeping giant that will take them all and cram them into a closet. Its crazy as shit when you have a man that is 6’4 – looks like a linebacker, he puts on a dress and claims he has the right to use the women’s bathroom.

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SC Political Digest October 15, 2014 at 3:07 pm

LMAO…You leftwing NAZIs try all sorts of diversion tactics when your Gestapo tactics manifest…Forget about it. It’s not working, Dumb@$$…

Do you agree w/ the Houston-prosecution of ministers for speaking about homosexuality? …It’s a ‘yes’ or ‘no’ question???

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you know it October 15, 2014 at 3:28 pm

No they’re not. People like you will just comment on websites and keep your damn mouth shut in public. As usual.

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mamatiger92 October 15, 2014 at 3:05 pm

I stopped reading at “Check out SCPSD”.

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SC Political Digest October 15, 2014 at 3:05 pm

You can read?

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mamatiger92 October 15, 2014 at 3:13 pm

needs work

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Everybody October 15, 2014 at 3:50 pm

Yes. We can read your comments and that’s why we, and everyone else, will continue to avoid your site. You need to remediate your English language skills, child.

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Ronald Reagan October 15, 2014 at 3:15 pm

I can only imagine how painful trying to read an entire blog post by this scrub must be. He can barely put a coherent sentence together. How he decides to use capitalization and punctuation must entail a dizzying thought process. Probably a similar to how he comes up with his political views.

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grandtangosuglydog October 15, 2014 at 3:23 pm

As Emily sits at her webpage..she screams with glee as she has two visits that day, until it turns out to be her and her mom. If SCPSD is so good how come she is here all day every day?

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He gets checks October 15, 2014 at 3:26 pm

Funded by the taxpayers, no less.

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Smirks October 15, 2014 at 4:19 pm

GrandTango never started reading to begin with.

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Destroy Child Molesters October 15, 2014 at 3:10 pm

There is going to be a violent uprising for sure —- its coming very soon —-

What do you think would happen if some federal judge wrenched a passage of the Federal Constitution out of context and summarily struck down Maine’s law democratically decided law approving same-sex marriage? Do you think the people preaching “tolerance”—including their cheerleaders in the media—would tolerate such judicial abuse? The airwaves would be blasting howls of unfairness and calls for judicial impeachment. Yet when the same thing is done to strike down marriage laws based in biological reality—laws passed by millions of voters—liberals celebrate that those voters have been disenfranchised. Saying that one judge’s vote counts more than the votes of millions of Americans is an unequal way to advance “equality.”

“Oh, but the Constitution evolves,” some say. “We don’t have to look at what was intended in 1868.”

If that’s the case, then why have a constitution at all? If judges can make the law say anything they want, then how can we govern ourselves? We can’t. It also means that none of our rights are secure (including new-found “rights” to same-sex marriage). What’s to stop some rogue judge from taking away your freedom of speech or religion because the constitution has “evolved” in just the way his liberal mind desires?

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Please October 15, 2014 at 3:24 pm

Oh god, you need to get laid real bad. Too funny.

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With you on that October 15, 2014 at 3:44 pm

Judging by your screen name I just going to assume you hate the Catholic Church and most of England?

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Smirks October 15, 2014 at 4:33 pm

We’ve amended the Constitution lots of times already, bro.

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mamatiger92 October 15, 2014 at 4:43 pm

bless his heart

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GrandTango October 15, 2014 at 3:22 pm

I’m excited to announce that my blog, SC Political Digest, will begin posting gay wedding announcements starting this weekend. I am beyond pleased that the ban on marriage equality is finally crumbling. It’s about time that SC was brought into the 21st century and I’m glad I’m alive to see it. To my homosexual brothers and sisters I send my deepest love and respect.

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9" October 15, 2014 at 10:28 pm

That’s incredible,but you need to get your gag-reflex in order,so you can swallow a load without choking to death…

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GrandTango October 16, 2014 at 3:32 am

9″? Is that all you’ve got? I cash gov’t assistance checks bigger than that.

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GrandTango October 15, 2014 at 3:31 pm

Being gay was so much more fun when it was illegal and unsavory. Now they’re taking all of the fun out of it. Oh well, what’s a power bottom to do?

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Smirks October 15, 2014 at 5:04 pm

Marriage isn’t under the purview of any religion, church, or congregation. It is an individual right. The mere fact that you can “change congregations” to suit your own personal beliefs makes the notion that an individual congregation has some kind of say so over who you can marry entirely pointless.

Marriages versus civil unions… You ever bring up Kim Kardashian’s marriage to someone that has this kind of belief? They don’t shy away from calling that a “marriage,” but when it comes to gays? Naw, man, that’s a civil union.

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Thomas October 15, 2014 at 8:05 pm

Close. Their are three types of marriage. Natural Marriage, Sacramental Marriage, and Civil Unions loosely termed “marriages”. Only the Natural and Sacramental are binding before the God of Isaac and Saint Padre Pio. All others are under the authority of civil government…which as we know by now has the propensity to change and flex as the mood strikes.

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milly October 15, 2014 at 8:24 pm

Wilson is a true jock sniffer. That is pretty close to gay.

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9" October 15, 2014 at 10:35 pm

Does Alan know his dad is gay?

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IamaChristian October 20, 2014 at 10:56 pm

78% of the people of SC who pay the salaries of the AG’s office voted against gay marriage so that’s spending the people’s money on what the people want. Some things are worth fighting for no matter what the judges say. The ultimate Judge is the One that matters to me and He was quite clear in stating that homosexuality is an abomination to God – that’s really all I need to hear.

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