The GOP’s Confederate Problem … (And Candidate Problem)

Mississippi State Senator Chris McDaniel – who is running for the U.S. Senate against incumbent liberal Thad Cochran – was erroneously accused by the liberal website Mother Jones of addressing a neo-Confederate gathering in Laurel, Mississippi last August. It turns out he was actually attending some legislative boondoggle in Chicagoland…

Mississippi State Senator Chris McDaniel – who is running for the U.S. Senate against incumbent liberal Thad Cochran – was erroneously accused by the liberal website Mother Jones of addressing a neo-Confederate gathering in Laurel, Mississippi last August.

It turns out he was actually attending some legislative boondoggle in Chicagoland at the time … or so he claims.

But before we go patting this guy on the back – and condemning the false reporting of the far left – McDaniel has attended this gathering in previous years. He just didn’t go this year (no doubt because he was planning his campaign for the U.S. Senate).

Not only that, McDaniel is now trying to weasel his way out of his previous appearances before the group – telling the Jackson Clarion Ledger he “can’t recall” whether he has spoken to the group in the past.

Yeah … nice try …

Here’s the thing: McDaniel’s opponent Thad Cochran is – as this website has noted – one of those fiscally liberal, anti-liberty Republicans in Washington, D.C. who has consistently betrayed taxpayers (and who is always looking to cut a deal with U.S. President Barack Obama).

Defeating him should be quick and painless in a “conservative” Southern state …

So why … why, why, why, why, why, why, why … can’t these so-called “conservatives” in Mississippi find someone who isn’t a wanna-be Confederate to run against him? More to the point – why can’t intelligent, common sense alternatives to these aging “Republicans in Name Only” emerge in races all across the country?

We don’t get it …


There’s nothing wrong with supporting Southern heritage (and commemorating those who fought on both sides of the War Between the States). But candidates who cloak themselves in Confederate flags are inviting all sorts of needless criticism – and reinforcing all sorts of damaging stereotypes. Things get even worse when these candidates do as McDaniel as done – which is to try and distance themselves from their associations.

Seriously … if you go to these events show some balls and admit that you went. Then tell people it’s possible to celebrate all heritages without being racist.

Don’t run and hide like a little bitch.

Here in South Carolina – a state which battles Mississippi for the bottom of the national barrel in every good ranking (and the top of the charts in every bad ranking) – we have no shortage of Confederate officials. In fact some of them have been legislative leaders who dumped millions of tax dollars into their obsession.

Now that’s what we find offensive …

As the increasingly totalitarian United States of America hurtles ever closer toward financial ruin, the concept of secession deserves a closer look. But this option will never receive the consideration it deserves so long as Confederate candidates like Chris McDaniel are running for office.

Meanwhile the “Republican Party” – which we have been urging to die a quick death for some time now – will shift even further to the left if fiscal liberals like Cochran are able to get reelected over challengers with this kind of baggage.

Accordingly, in the parlance of our times, somebody better “Redneckognize …”

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Sailor October 29, 2013 at 11:23 am

I think he’d look better if he wore his white pointy hat!

jimlewisowb October 29, 2013 at 2:19 pm

Sailor, when you were a sailor you wore a hat. The white pointy thing the stars and bars boys pull over their head is called a hood

Wanted to point that out just in case you wake up one morning and find a cross burning on your front lawn. Would hate for you to run outside and yell, “what the hell are all you white pointy hat sons of bitches barbecuing on my lawn”

Would be more political correct if you yell, “what the hell are all you white pointy hood sons of bitches barbecuing on my lawn”

Sailor October 29, 2013 at 10:41 pm

I stand corrected! Thank you.

Derp October 29, 2013 at 11:26 am

I have found the solution to the confederate flag issue in SC. Have a local gang adopt the flag as their colors. Then, like with what’s recently happened with camouflage, the authorities won’t allow it’s display or wearing in public. Simple as that! (in dumb shit SC, at least)

Same ol' Same ol' October 29, 2013 at 12:05 pm

Where do they not allow it? I’m curious about that.

SNAFU October 29, 2013 at 1:58 pm

Richland County School district and others are jumping on the bandwagon

Sociopath October 29, 2013 at 2:06 pm

Here’s how much times have changed:

Over 25 years ago I wore a shirt to junior high that said “Kill em all, let God sort em out!” with a pair of camo pants.

None of my teachers said a word except my social stuides teacher, who said, “Nice shirt, is that your happy thought for the day?”.

Jackie Chiles October 29, 2013 at 3:03 pm

That’s an incredibly odd shirt to wear- even for 25 years ago.

Soft Sigh from Hell October 29, 2013 at 7:59 pm

It paraphrases a Catholic bishop or cardinal in Europe back in the “field action” days of Christianity.
“Kill all! Kill all! God will know his own.”

? October 29, 2013 at 8:06 pm

Nothing is quite as inspiring as seeing a man of god doing god’s work in the field with a polearm, anointing the heathens.

Under the right circumstances I’d probably falsely convert myself upon witnessing such an event.

Jackie Chiles October 29, 2013 at 12:28 pm


SenseLikeChaps October 29, 2013 at 12:25 pm

You mean the same neo-Confederate organization that our state DMV offers custom plates to? The same one our current Governor had to sit down with and promise not to rock their boat or she would face political consequences? Just say it, The Sons of Confederate Veterans; saying their name doesn’t imbue them with magical powers.

See, I said it and Stonewall Jackson didn’t come out of the ground to get me. Looking out my window there isn’t a phantom Hunley floating in the air ready to torpedo the building. Amazing and I didn’t even have to break out a pair of blessed Colt Navies (signed by Dale Jr.) and fire into the air seven times.

Last time I checked the Daughters of the American Revolution don’t act as a political organization. Was there any Governor of Massachusetts who had to sit down with the DOR and to receive mild threats of future retribution if they stepped out of line? Forget politicians ponying up to heritage organizations. How about a heritage organization acting as a political organization? If they are going to quack like that duck maybe it is time to go hunting.

P.S.: Who says “war of southern independence”? Get it right Mother Jones. It was “War of Northern Aggression” and only ladies from South of Broad who have been dead for 20 years said it with a straight face.

Jackie Chiles October 29, 2013 at 12:27 pm

This entire post was completely pointless.

? October 29, 2013 at 1:54 pm

Not to him.


Carl W. Roden October 29, 2013 at 5:20 pm

Indeed Jackie. This was nothing more than some ideologue with a chip on his shoulder throwing around a bunch of nonsense against the SCV and UDC because of some misguided sense that he’s making a point. I think years of being “offended” have blown a few gaskets.

Saluda 88 October 29, 2013 at 12:31 pm

How many Mississippi confederate politicians are homosexuals with state-owned antique submarines? I think South Carolina has them beat.

Carl W. Roden October 29, 2013 at 4:25 pm

Mississippi Confederates?

Uh….dude, you do know that aside from being descedants of Confederate soldiers people today are not “confederates” per-se. I mean the war is over don’t you know that…..oh God that felt good to throw back at someone else for a change!

euwe max October 29, 2013 at 1:04 pm

I think this confederate flag thing is as overblown as the whole nazi symbol thing.

Original Good Old Boy October 29, 2013 at 2:39 pm

How cute but I don’t think you understand the difference between genocide/European conquest and antiquated reliance on slavery/independence.

? October 29, 2013 at 7:30 pm

Dude, that’s a stellar comment in so many ways. Kudos.

euwe max October 30, 2013 at 9:28 am

Enlighten me.

Original Good Old Boy October 31, 2013 at 11:52 am

That’s up to you. I can’t force you to open your mind.

euwe max October 31, 2013 at 12:56 pm

It took 400 years for people to open their minds about the inquisition. But I’m not sentimental about it.

Original Good Old Boy October 31, 2013 at 2:32 pm

Here’s a hint. Your analogies are I the product of lazy analysis and an apples to orange comparison. I think my first response enlightened you plenty on hat if you were willing to open your mind and realize it.

Original Good Old Boy October 31, 2013 at 2:34 pm

Forgive the typos. Damn iPhone.

euwe max October 31, 2013 at 4:57 pm

Seriously. I suppose it would be possible to still love a butt-ugly
flag if I had less design sense. I mean, it’s like a good musician loving a really shitty jingle dressed up as a national anthem. You’d have to pretty much forget all your training and artistic sensibilities. A good son could do it for pappy’s sake.

But, given all those things, and perhaps a small stroke, I could love either the US menstrual headache flag or the Confederate Battle Hankie-looking Sam’s Club Shopping-bag flag. Symbols aside.

That rebel flag, while reeking of perfumed pirate, at least didn’t look as if it used to be gay pants.

But now, the Nazi fag – er, flag. That was a stunning combination of red and black, you have to admit. Symbols aside.

Original Good Old Boy November 1, 2013 at 8:54 am

I don’t blame you for not wanting to defend your initial position. I would dodge and bring up non sequitur’s too.

euwe max November 1, 2013 at 2:57 pm

Don’t hate me because I’m beautiful.

euwe max November 1, 2013 at 4:53 pm

you initial position


“I think this confederate flag thing is as overblown as the whole nazi symbol thing.”

I can see how this broadside blow to overblowing in general could upset the apple (orange?) cart of symbol sensitivity. I once wondered aloud whether a southern man spitting out his chaw onto the ground – spitting on America proper – was more respectful somehow than spitting on the symbol of america – a flag. I was similarly chastised for being insensitive to the blood of fallen soldiers, and the proud tradition of spitting on the ground, which was clearly NOT America proper.

Just to clarify – how overblown would YOU say it was? More or less than the whole nazi symbol thing?

euwe max October 31, 2013 at 5:12 pm

Sometimes I digress, but here’s a flag that I wouldn’t need a stiff drink to salute. Symbols aside.


TravisRose500 October 29, 2013 at 1:35 pm

Don’t believe everything in the Clarion Ledger or on some liberal blog. You folks should get off the web and experience something first hand before you rant on it. I recently went to a “reenactment” in Biloxi, MS. They are certainly historic and tourism groups. There were no burning crosses or pointy hats. As a matter of fact there was a very diverse crowd assembled. The parking lot had car tags from around the country. It was a great opportunity to learn about our history and what life was like in that era. The event also served as a fundraiser to maintain the Antebellum home of Confederate President Jefferson Davis, which sustained significant damage from Hurricane Katrina.

There is nothing wrong with honoring our ancestors. They were(for the most part) truly honorable men. General Johnston died at the Battle of Shiloh from a Minie ball wound, while his doctor was treating wounded Union prisoners.

? October 29, 2013 at 2:03 pm

“They were(for the most part) truly honorable men.”

Kudos to you for a brave statement. However, be prepared to be skewered by the PC crowd as your opinion does not reflect the general media reporting let alone conform to establishment opinion.

Now, report to Room 101 for not ascribing to the proper views. After you some time if you sign Minitrue’s statement of reality:

“All antebellum Southerners were evil, white, land owners that routinely committed atrocities against blacks and were the main cause of the Civil war, which their ancestors must be guilty of in perpetuity.”

then you might be let go without having to experience too much of their love.

? October 29, 2013 at 2:31 pm

edit: “After some time, if you”

TravisRose500 October 31, 2013 at 3:11 pm

The “they” I was referring to were the actual military forces, on both sides. Typically all good men. Sherman was the most obvious exception.

Soft Sigh from Hell October 31, 2013 at 7:10 pm

I don’t know. There is some honor and sense in trying to destroy a region’s ability to wage war rather than having to kill her every last son.
Also, it’s hard to consign to Hell out of hand one who stated thus: “If nominated, I will not run; if elected, I will not serve.”
Sherman, speaking of the US presidency.
He knew where dirt lay.

sweepin October 29, 2013 at 3:39 pm

I gotta tell you, Travis, I’m just old enough to remember when that flag and those ceremonies were used respectfully for the purposes you suggest. That makes me old enough to remember, vividly, as I watched hate groups like the KKK, drunken rednecks at the races and beach and other public gatherings, and other disparate groups turn the flag and other remembrances of your and my ancestors into symbols of pure, unadulterated racial hate in the ensuing years.

Regretfully, I don’t think a defense of the flag goes very far after the pointless and profane symbolism that it has come to represent in today’s society.

My best advice to a pol is to simply stay away from the controversy by not being involved as a participant or a spectator.

Carl W. Roden October 29, 2013 at 4:23 pm

sweepin, there are literally millions of Southerners and Confederate descendants across this world on six continents who display that flag honorably. These are a diverse group of people of all races and creeds who honor their Southern blood and respect the ancestors: the Confederate soldier, for his courage and devotion to duty.

With their work there will come a day in as few as three decades from now where even comparing the Confederate flag’s public display to the swastika and Nazism will go over as well as dropping the N-word in public would be today.

sweepin October 29, 2013 at 4:29 pm

You need to reread my comments and pay particularly attention to the first paragraph.

Of course, if a pol wants to generate plenty of controversy instead of avoiding it like most, then by all means, he should advertise his presence and participation. That ought to be a real vote getter.

Carl W. Roden October 29, 2013 at 5:16 pm

I was actually agreeing with you sweepin. I apologize for not being clear. Its hard to gauge moods online and I was actually adding to your statement for the benefit of everyone else.

Penus Williams October 29, 2013 at 2:46 pm

It is very increasingly difficult to defend against the accusation that teaparty republicans are racists when people like Chris McDaniel run for office.

Buck Jones October 29, 2013 at 3:37 pm

This is a letter I sent to Chairman Moore some months ago about increase minorities in the Republican party.
South Carolina Republican Party
Chairman Matt Moore
1913 Marion Street
Columbia SC 29203

Dear Chairman Moore:

Congratulations on becoming chairman; being an African American graduate of The Citadel who is neither a strong Democrat nor Republican; I am happy to see the Republican Party trying to do outreach however the Republican Party has to face the fact that minority outreach is not going to be complete in 1 or 2 years. Republican leaders must be willing to go places that may not be friendly to them currently in order to show their outreach is sincere. I have never seen or heard of Senator Tim Scott, Governor Haley or any prominent Republicans coming to a South Carolina State or Benedict football game or any event where the majority of the people there are African Americans other than a funeral. The point of this statement is how can you tell African Americans you have my best interest at heart when you can’t even come to a football game or an event like the Black Expo (secure a vendor’s spot) and mingle with African Americans for 3 to 4 hours? It is one of the reasons I respected Mark Sanford when he was Governor although I did not always agree with him; he went on shows like Tom Joyner, Awareness, to African American churches, etc. Its starts with small stuff like showing up and listening to people and getting the chance to explain your policies and see how they are affecting people’s lives.

Go on programs like “Awareness” show where public charter and school choice is working in minority communities and why it is important to the community by giving them choice in their child’s education. This may help in making policies that are not seen as being racially motivated such as the voter ID and requesting removal of Voting Rights Act in South Carolina because people will feel that their positions where consulted before a policy was created. I can tell you most African Americans dislike people who abuse welfare but realize there is a need for welfare since minimum wage does not allow one to live. Therefore are willing to make people on welfare work for their welfare benefits if they are physically able to do so but will not support ending benefits completely for those who are working especially if the money they are making is not enough to live on. In other words have the Republicans who are in Congress and at the State House propose a bill which would require physically able welfare participants to work in order to receive benefits. This would encourage hard work but show compassion and understanding plus reduce the overall cost of welfare since people who are working would not need the maximum benefit amount. It also puts pressure on the Democrats because how can you defend people who are physically able to work receiving welfare benefits when they refuse to work.

It may take a generation because the policies that led to the Republican Party’s decline with minorities took 1 or 2 generations and placing a minority face on a policy that is seen as targeting minorities is not going to make the problem magically disappear. However through hard work and honest dealing the Republican Party can grow its minority numbers significantly. Finally I also find it interesting that the South Carolina Republican party does not honor one of its founders in Robert Smalls by holding an annual dinner or something in his honor. In other words make a big deal out of his being a founder annually; send personal on April 5 his birthday into African American communities get African American churches, fraternities and sororities involved do stuff like street cleaning and housing repairs and tie it to showing respect Robert Smalls a founder of your party in South Carolina then hold a community cookouts where your leaders can mingle with the people and rub it in the Democrats faces. It shows you respect your history and you care about the condition of the African American community plus it shows Republicans are ordinary people just like the people in those communities which leads to understanding, builds bridges and secures votes.

Carl W. Roden October 29, 2013 at 5:00 pm

Most of the problems the African American community have with Conservatives and the Republicans are irrational fears over the motives of the groups towards them. Having been a Conservative Southerner from South Carolina (one who I might add honors Confederate heritage and flies a battle flag daily) all my life and I can tell you that I have never encountered another person like me who wants to pass voter ID laws or get rid of the Voter Rights Act because of any desire to suppress black or Hispanic votes or oppress anyone. Such things are the furthest from the minds of typical white Southerners today. The foremost on our minds are simply getting through the day, providing for our families, and working for a future where our children can flourish. No different I suspect than it is for African-Americans.

Mr Jones, I think you do hit the nail on the head about outreach, and I agree with much of what you say, but I would also add that the black community and its leaders will likewise need to show some gestures of goodwill in return.
Attacks on the Confederate battle flag, monuments and other symbols, as well as the constant demonetization of them and the toxic rhetoric against the people who honor these things should cease. They are unfounded and, in most ways, counterproductive towards establishing true tolerance in Southern society.
How much could you trust someone who calls you a “racist” based on no better reason that the knee-jerk reaction to the display of a banner that a good majority of Southerner whites, and a growing small number of Southern blacks I might add, considers a living symbol of ones ancestral heritage and heraldry? How much would you be willing to trust someone, or extend any friendship towards a person, who would tell you that you should simply hand over a banner that’s a part of your cultural identity for purely benign reasons to people who already misuse it wrongly as a tool of hatred? That is essentially how any Southern heritage supporter views such attacks.

Most heritage groups like the Sons of Confederate Veterans and United Daughters of the Confederacy are not out to deliberately offend anyone, they merely ask to be recognized as people who honor what are to them deeply positive traditions of honor and respect for those who came before us without any real racial meaning.
Indeed, as I mentioned, there is a growing number of black Southerners, who find their had their own Confederate ancestry and found some positive reasons to honor the service of their own kin. Not so much for the Confederate cause (no matter if you believe slavery or simply independence or both) but rather for the fact that their ancestor was a soldier who did his duty bravely. No more and no less. No different from any other Confederate ancestor.

There is no reason beyond holding onto irrational fears for the display of the Confederate flag to offend anyone. In fact its the misguided fear itself that fuels racist groups who misuse that flag. Elimination of that fear will ultimately eliminate the misuse of the flag, or make such misuse irrelevant. Fear only empowers those inflicting it and attacking those who display it openly for positive reason of honoring ones heritage with a blanket charge of “racism” does nothing but further damage goodwill and spreads misery to everyone.
I know that trust is a two-way street, and asking the benefit of the
doubt given past misuses of that flag is a hard row to hoe, but small
gestures of trust on both sides could ultimately bridge that gap. The rewards for doing so far outweigh any momentary “offenses” that can and should be overcome.

Its just something to consider.

hack October 29, 2013 at 4:14 pm

Heritage not hate Will. Anyone who opposes the government welfare plantation is a raciss. Waving the flag of St. Andrews around just makes it easier for the gestapo to find you.

Not So Bright October 29, 2013 at 6:41 pm

So this is the Lee Bright of Mississippi? Now that is scraping the bottom of the barrel in dumbness.

Comrade1917 October 29, 2013 at 10:56 pm

Edmund Ruffin’s Last Words
On June 18, 1865 Edmund Ruffin, one of the leading antebellum proponents of
Southern secession, chose to commit suicide rather than submit to the
subjugation of Yankee rule. Defiant to the bitter end, this fiery Southern
patriot penned these famous last words in his diary just minutes before taking
leave of the Yankee tyranny that had descended upon Dixie…

“I here declare my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule — to all political, social and business connection with the Yankees and to the Yankee race. Would that I could impress these sentiments, in their full force, on every living Southerner and bequeath them to every one yet to be born! May such sentiments be held universally in the outraged and down-trodden South, though in silence and stillness, until the now far-distant day shall arrive for just retribution for Yankee usurpation, oppression and
atrocious outrages, and for deliverance and vengeance for the now ruined,
subjugated and enslaved Southern States!

…And now with my latest writing and utterance, and with what will be near my latest breath, I here repeat and would willingly proclaim my unmitigated hatred to Yankee rule–to all political, social and business connections with Yankees, and the perfidious,
malignant and vile Yankee race.”

–Edmund Ruffin

Soft Sigh from Hell October 31, 2013 at 7:03 pm

Oddly, Ruffin’s main effect on the future was his long pushing the practice of liming agricultural soils.

Cooter Brown October 30, 2013 at 1:26 pm

Whut does neo-confederate meen? What happened to jest relular ol’ confederates like me?
Th’ hail wit dem neo-yankee newspapers and politickal know-it all scalawags!
Th south iz full ov pussy-kat, limp wristed punks that are ashamed ov what they know t’ bee right:
We (confederates) was right in 1860 because we wuz right in 1776.
eff off, neo-yankees! All ov ye!

Ass Blow October 30, 2013 at 5:37 pm

Long Live the Confederacy you shit-tards!!


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