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Secession Time

“The South Will Rise Again …” That’s every redneck’s favorite rallying cry, but in reality the American South – which is disproportionately poor, dumb, fat, lazy and inbred – won’t be “rising” again anytime soon. Don’t believe us? Take a look at its expanding waistlines, shrinking income levels and plummeting…

“The South Will Rise Again …”

That’s every redneck’s favorite rallying cry, but in reality the American South – which is disproportionately poor, dumb, fat, lazy and inbred – won’t be “rising” again anytime soon.

Don’t believe us? Take a look at its expanding waistlines, shrinking income levels and plummeting standardized test scores – particularly in South Carolina, the buckle of the Bubba Belt.

Still, there comes a moment in the evolution of every free society when its intellectually curious element (or what’s left of it) must take inventory of the governments representing it at all levels.

For those who live in South Carolina, that’s an exceedingly grim outlook.

At the top of the bureaucratic heap, obviously, is the government of the United States of America – which is quickly becoming the antithesis of everything it was founded to be. We wrote recently of the federal government emerging as an “Evil Empire,” but we had no idea just how bad things had gotten until last week’s shocking revelation of a massive Orwellian snooping operation.

And while you ponder this $20 billion annual domestic spying program – which exists for the sole purpose of violating your liberty (and privacy) on a daily basis – consider the ongoing violation of your wallets and pocketbooks by a corrupt Internal Revenue Service, to say nothing of the $17 trillion in debt that’s being passed down to your children and grandchildren.

And what you’re getting for that …

State government in South Carolina, meanwhile, may be slightly less malevolent – but its thick-skulled allegiance to a sprawling, incompetent and infinitely corrupt status quo continues holding its people several steps behind their national peers.

And the gap is widening …

Local governments? Look no further than the crony capitalists of the socially conservative Upstate, or the crooked thugs who run South Carolina’s two most populous Midlands counties (Lexington and Richland) or the shady tourism mafia that shakes down taxpayers in the Redneck Riviera along the coast.

And let’s not forget the state’s eighty-five government-run school districts – unaccountable fiefdoms which receive billions of dollars each year to perpetuate generational failure on a truly mind-boggling scale.

Oh, and before you go thinking it’s just poor black kids in the state’s “Corridor of Shame” getting the shaft – remember the average South Carolina student is being outperformed by the average low-income student in Florida.

Pretty much wherever you live in the Palmetto State, odds are you are getting tripled-teamed – by the feds, by the state and by local governments, all of whom are slipping their tentacles deeper and deeper into your money and your life.

Sick of it?

If you’re not, then you must not be paying attention – or you are swallowing what’s being spoon-fed to you by an establishment-run, bought-and-paid-for mainstream media.

So … what’s an “intellectually curious element” to do?

Easy: Secede.

Well, we take that back. Secession is not easy. In fact when we last addressed this issue (back in November) we noted that “secession has to be the beginning of a plan, it can’t be the plan itself. Such a decision would have to be accompanied by a pair of other critical moves.”

Those moves? First, the “complete dissolution of South Carolina’s infinitely corrupt state government (and its banana republic municipalities, too).” And second, the installation of “a new form of government replacing these rotten edifices.”

We don’t want to go from the frying pan to the fire, in other words.

Also, as we’ve noted several times in the past, there is a racial stigma associated with the notion of secession, which is unfortunate but completely understandable when you consider what motivated South Carolina to secede from the Union way back in December 1860.

Ergo any plan must be based on a declaration of universal human rights, something along the lines of a new government pledging to “make no law discriminating against citizens on the basis of gender, race, creed, color or sexual orientation.”

Not that we’ve written up a document like that or anything …

Whatever particulars this plot takes, though, it has become abundantly clear that it is time (past time, really) for men and women of courage, vision, means and compassion to start plotting.

We are simply at that point “in the course of human events …”

“Timid men prefer the calm of despotism to the tempestuous sea of Liberty,” Thomas Jefferson once wrote.

May that never be said of us … or you.

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125 comments

General Lee June 10, 2013 at 6:52 pm

And you just popped up on the NSA screen haha

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General Lee June 10, 2013 at 6:52 pm

And you just popped up on the NSA screen haha

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nitrat June 10, 2013 at 6:59 pm

What a pathetic waste of your time and mine.
Grow up.

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nitrat June 10, 2013 at 6:59 pm

What a pathetic waste of your time and mine.
Grow up.

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Curious June 10, 2013 at 7:05 pm

Yeah, good luck with all that.

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Curious June 10, 2013 at 7:05 pm

Yeah, good luck with all that.

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sweepin June 10, 2013 at 7:14 pm

Will Folks, SC’s Glenn Beck light.

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2big2fall June 10, 2013 at 7:30 pm

More like a younger version of Abe Simpson…”Back in the day all the young men would get on the ferry to Shelbyville. We all wore an onion on our belt…a yellow onion, of course…times were tough…we couldn’t afford a white one…”
Google photoshop fun with will folks…

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The Colonel June 10, 2013 at 7:53 pm

Dude, you’re a whiz with photoshop but you have WAAAAAAAAAAAY to much time on your hands!

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Boz Martin June 10, 2013 at 9:02 pm

Did a link to a photoshopped poke at Will get axed?

If so, that’s just fucked up.

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shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 6:54 am

Google: “will folks: welcome to my nightmare” —then follow the dates on the right

2big2fall June 11, 2013 at 7:32 am

Henry,
That one is a work in progress. Thanks for watching! Nothing against Will. I recently told a friend that I had conflicting thoughts about Will Folks…lots to like…lots to dislike. All in all, I enjoy reading his site and recognize that he is a pretty smart dude.

shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 10:28 am

I give Will credit not only for building this site but also for constantly upgrading it.

2big2fall June 11, 2013 at 7:27 am

Boz,
I didn’t include a link…just a search phrase.

shifty henry June 10, 2013 at 8:30 pm

HAW! HAW! Enjoyed the work, and read the seedy internet article (didn’t know about that part of the business)

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2big2fall June 11, 2013 at 7:36 am

Henry,

You’re referring to article “How Seedy Internet Bookseller Targets Libraries and Charities.” Yeah…they have been scamming organizations all over the southeast for several years now.

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shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 8:04 am

Caught you doing a “Hitchcock” inserting yourself in a couple of works.

2big2fall June 11, 2013 at 11:10 am

Yeah,

I do that a lot, especially when I take pokes at our local, quite sleazy Goodwill CEO (“photoshop fun with Bob Smith”). He is an easy target because he is a simpleton who runs his mouth way out in front of his teeny brain.

sweepin June 10, 2013 at 7:14 pm

Will Folks, SC’s Glenn Beck light.

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2big2fall June 10, 2013 at 7:30 pm

More like a younger version of Abe Simpson…”Back in the day all the young men would get on the ferry to Shelbyville. We all wore an onion on our belt…a yellow onion, of course…times were tough…we couldn’t afford a white one…”
Google photoshop fun with will folks…

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The Colonel (R) June 10, 2013 at 7:53 pm

Dude, you’re a whiz with photoshop but you have WAAAAAAAAAAAY to much time on your hands!

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Boz Martin June 10, 2013 at 9:02 pm

Did a link to a photoshopped poke at Will get axed?

If so, that’s just fucked up.

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shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 6:54 am

Google: “will folks: welcome to my nightmare” —then follow the dates on the right

2big2fall June 11, 2013 at 7:32 am

Henry,
That one is a work in progress. Thanks for watching! Nothing against Will. I recently told a friend that I had conflicting thoughts about Will Folks…lots to like…lots to dislike. All in all, I enjoy reading his site and recognize that he is a pretty smart dude.

shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 10:28 am

I give Will credit not only for building this site but also for constantly upgrading it.

2big2fall June 11, 2013 at 7:27 am

Boz,
I didn’t include a link…just a search phrase.

shifty henry June 10, 2013 at 8:30 pm

HAW! HAW! Enjoyed the work, and read the seedy internet article (didn’t know about that part of the business)

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2big2fall June 11, 2013 at 7:36 am

Henry,

You’re referring to article “How Seedy Internet Bookseller Targets Libraries and Charities.” Yeah…they have been scamming organizations all over the southeast for several years now.

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shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 8:04 am

Caught you doing a “Hitchcock” inserting yourself in a couple of works.

2big2fall June 11, 2013 at 11:10 am

Yeah,

I do that a lot, especially when I take pokes at our local, quite sleazy Goodwill CEO (“photoshop fun with Bob Smith”). He is an easy target because he is a simpleton who runs his mouth way out in front of his teeny brain.

Soft Sigh from Hell June 10, 2013 at 7:15 pm

I thought the Christian Exodus or some such swarming (Jesus Jihad? Salvation Stormtroops? King James Korps?) were migrating to South Carolina to take us over and perfect us.
Whatever happened to them?

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Soft Sigh from Hell June 10, 2013 at 7:15 pm

I thought the Christian Exodus or some such swarming (Jesus Jihad? Salvation Stormtroops? King James Korps?) were migrating to South Carolina to take us over and perfect us.
Whatever happened to them?

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Flag Waving Patriot June 10, 2013 at 7:21 pm

I for one, like funding the oppression directed against me. It gives me purpose. Go suck an egg.

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Flag Waving Patriot June 10, 2013 at 7:21 pm

I for one, like funding the oppression directed against me. It gives me purpose. Go suck an egg.

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AnnieWho June 10, 2013 at 7:24 pm

I think it’s going to have to get even worse before enough people are motivated to do anything that drastic. It’s shocking to me, but there is still a lot of acceptance and complacency at this point. Maybe some kind of serious financial or societal collapse will force some restructuring eventually.

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AnnieWho June 10, 2013 at 7:24 pm

I think it’s going to have to get even worse before enough people are motivated to do anything that drastic. It’s shocking to me, but there is still a lot of acceptance and complacency at this point. Maybe some kind of serious financial or societal collapse will force some restructuring eventually.

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The Colonel June 10, 2013 at 7:53 pm

Secede Hell, this time we’re just storming the Bastille!

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The Colonel (R) June 10, 2013 at 7:53 pm

Secede Hell, this time we’re just storming the Bastille!

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Simple Simon June 10, 2013 at 7:59 pm

Silly.

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Simple Simon June 10, 2013 at 7:59 pm

Silly.

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Thomas June 10, 2013 at 8:29 pm

Proclamation and Orders of The American People

We, the People of the federated States of America, acting under our original jurisdictions in our capacities as living Men and Women At Law in paramount sovereign authority over our Land andCountry, do hereby resolve and proclaim our Command to Our Armed Forces, in each and every manifestation, civilly and constitutionally derived, comprising but not limited to the Army, Navy, MarineCorps, Air Force, Coast Guard, State Guard and Militia units, Sheriffs, Constables of their respectivecounties and municipal Police of our communities, each and together to act forthwith upon the concluding Orders

we convey herein…to wit

On Authority formally recognized by the right honorable John Jay, Chief Justice of the Supreme Courtof The United States of America, for the case of Chisholm v. Georgia, wherein he stated that “at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country…”.

Whereas, a department has been formed under the Administrative division of the United States’ entity of governance, called the Department of Homeland Security, having no authorized powers enumerated in the constitution for said Unites States, beyond those narrow activities jurisdictionally internal to said entity, and

Whereas, such Department has amassed an armory of weapons; ammunition for said weapons,internationally declared as unlawful; and sundry implements of war, in implicitly and explicitly stated anticipation of their use against the People of America, and

Whereas, an agency exists under the Department of Defense called the National Security Agency which has been disclosed to carry on surveillance over the People of America for purposes of despotic political control, in violation of Lawful Due Process and enumerated powers of Congress under constitutionalauthorization, by these presents it is thus so

Ordered, that said military forces shall, within twenty-four hours of receipt hereof, delivered at the offices of the Provost Marshals General of The United States, fully and completely commandeer said weaponry, ammunition and all equipment, vehicles and accoutrements of a military nature from said Department of Homeland Security, preventing all acts of said Department toward such re-armament.and

It is Further Ordered, that command and control of the said National Security Agency be hereafter maintained solely under the direction of the United States Department of Defense, Commanders of which are to enact immediate measures to cease and desist said surveillance unless by strictly Lawful order of a Judge of the territorial jurisdiction in which such Man, Woman or Association is an inhabitant,subject of investigation for acts plainly of a nature physically harmful to people or property; and is hereby further authorized directly by The People to reject any directive from any entity of government whereby the same is contrary to such entity’s constitutional authorization and assertion of such directive is not clearly and unequivocally confirmed and delineated by the Justices of The Supreme Court of The United States, but under no circumstance generally intrusive upon The Peoples’ privacy At Law.

Done
on this ____________ day of _________________ in the year of two thousand thirteen, AD, and the two hundred thirty-eighth year of Our Sacred Independence.County of ________________________

State of ________________________

We, the Undersigned indigenous Men and Women of The People comprising the above said State,solemnly affirm, depose and say in our Natural Human capacities, that Reserving All Rights, we do so endorse by our living hands, these presents, delivering same to the Provost Marshal General of our vicinity

Affirmation of Service
I, ______________________________ solemnly affirm and certify that on this ____________ day of _________________ in the year of two thousand thirteen, AD, that I did serve the Provost Marshal, or official assistant thereto, Proclamation and Orders of the American People, and attached endorsement pages inclusive, by Certified United States Mail, return Receipt Requested to:
Major General David E. Quantock U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command
Russell Knox Building
27130 Telegraph Road Quantico, Virgina; (22134-2253)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/146709421/Proclamation-and-Orders

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Thomas June 10, 2013 at 8:40 pm

Major General David E. Quantock is the United States Army Provost Marshal General and Commander of the United States Army Criminal Investigation Command.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_E._Quantock

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Pat Fields June 11, 2013 at 4:18 am

Thanks Thomas! The downloadable original can be seen at …
http://www.scribd.com/doc/146709421/Proclamation-and-Orders

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Thomas June 10, 2013 at 8:29 pm

Proclamation and Orders of The American People

We, the People of the federated States of America, acting under our original jurisdictions in our capacities as living Men and Women At Law in paramount sovereign authority over our Land andCountry, do hereby resolve and proclaim our Command to Our Armed Forces, in each and every manifestation, civilly and constitutionally derived, comprising but not limited to the Army, Navy, MarineCorps, Air Force, Coast Guard, State Guard and Militia units, Sheriffs, Constables of their respectivecounties and municipal Police of our communities, each and together to act forthwith upon the concluding Orders

we convey herein…to wit

On Authority formally recognized by the right honorable John Jay, Chief Justice of the Supreme Courtof The United States of America, for the case of Chisholm v. Georgia, wherein he stated that “at the Revolution, the sovereignty devolved on the people, and they are truly the sovereigns of the country…”.

Whereas, a department has been formed under the Administrative division of the United States’ entity of governance, called the Department of Homeland Security, having no authorized powers enumerated in the constitution for said Unites States, beyond those narrow activities jurisdictionally internal to said entity, and

Whereas, such Department has amassed an armory of weapons; ammunition for said weapons,internationally declared as unlawful; and sundry implements of war, in implicitly and explicitly stated anticipation of their use against the People of America, and

Whereas, an agency exists under the Department of Defense called the National Security Agency which has been disclosed to carry on surveillance over the People of America for purposes of despotic political control, in violation of Lawful Due Process and enumerated powers of Congress under constitutionalauthorization, by these presents it is thus so

Ordered, that said military forces shall, within twenty-four hours of receipt hereof, delivered at the offices of the Provost Marshals General of The United States, fully and completely commandeer said weaponry, ammunition and all equipment, vehicles and accoutrements of a military nature from said Department of Homeland Security, preventing all acts of said Department toward such re-armament.and

It is Further Ordered, that command and control of the said National Security Agency be hereafter maintained solely under the direction of the United States Department of Defense, Commanders of which are to enact immediate measures to cease and desist said surveillance unless by strictly Lawful order of a Judge of the territorial jurisdiction in which such Man, Woman or Association is an inhabitant,subject of investigation for acts plainly of a nature physically harmful to people or property; and is hereby further authorized directly by The People to reject any directive from any entity of government whereby the same is contrary to such entity’s constitutional authorization and assertion of such directive is not clearly and unequivocally confirmed and delineated by the Justices of The Supreme Court of The United States, but under no circumstance generally intrusive upon The Peoples’ privacy At Law.

Done
on this ____________ day of _________________ in the year of two thousand thirteen, AD, and the two hundred thirty-eighth year of Our Sacred Independence.County of ________________________

State of ________________________

We, the Undersigned indigenous Men and Women of The People comprising the above said State,solemnly affirm, depose and say in our Natural Human capacities, that Reserving All Rights, we do so endorse by our living hands, these presents, delivering same to the Provost Marshal General of our vicinity

Affirmation of Service
I, ______________________________ solemnly affirm and certify that on this ____________ day of _________________ in the year of two thousand thirteen, AD, that I did serve the Provost Marshal, or official assistant thereto, Proclamation and Orders of the American People, and attached endorsement pages inclusive, by Certified United States Mail, return Receipt Requested to:
Major General David E. Quantock U.S. Army Criminal Investigation Command
Russell Knox Building
27130 Telegraph Road Quantico, Virgina; (22134-2253)

http://www.scribd.com/doc/146709421/Proclamation-and-Orders

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Thomas June 10, 2013 at 8:40 pm

Major General David E. Quantock is the United States Army Provost Marshal General and Commander of the United States Army Criminal Investigation Command.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_E._Quantock

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Pat Fields June 11, 2013 at 4:18 am

Thanks Thomas! The downloadable original can be seen at …
http://www.scribd.com/doc/146709421/Proclamation-and-Orders

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BIN News June 11, 2013 at 12:14 am

sic(k) willie pandering to the teabuggers.

And, sounding like a genuine crackpot nutjob.

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 4:49 am

Typical (wannabe) MSM.

Trying to come off as important about the mundane, and providing only disdain for the imperative.

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BIN News June 11, 2013 at 12:14 am

sic(k) willie pandering to the teabuggers.

And, sounding like a genuine crackpot nutjob.

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 4:49 am

Typical (wannabe) MSM.

Trying to come off as important about the mundane, and providing only disdain for the imperative.

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Cleveland Steamer June 11, 2013 at 2:27 am

That first sucession work so well we should try it again.

“Wise men and women prefer to better their state and country by using their brains, not vitriol or frothing at the mouth” Cleavland Steamer

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 4:47 am

Cleveland;

Secession in the terms that Mr. Folks is speaking, as I understand it, is to remove oneself, society in whole preferably, from the current communist socialistas that are in power today at the state level.

He’s speaking more of a 21st century congress to address the ills in our state at a constitutional level. To restore the rights of men, women and families to what they were, and to permanently prevent our local governments from reducing those rights to that which would make us once again subservient to the state, as they are now.

Then, and only then, will we be able to prepare ourselves for what will (already has) come as to correcting the course of our country.

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BL Zebob June 11, 2013 at 10:00 pm

Hey Ma, look!

People are voting for a guy that can’t even spell the topic he’s commenting on! It’s just like an election.

We really are screwed.

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Cleveland Steamer June 11, 2013 at 2:27 am

That first sucession work so well we should try it again.

“Wise men and women prefer to better their state and country by using their brains, not vitriol or frothing at the mouth” Cleavland Steamer

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 4:47 am

Cleveland;

Secession in the terms that Mr. Folks is speaking, as I understand it, is to remove oneself, society in whole preferably, from the current communist socialistas that are in power today at the state level.

He’s speaking more of a 21st century congress to address the ills in our state at a constitutional level. To restore the rights of men, women and families to what they were, and to permanently prevent our local governments from reducing those rights to that which would make us once again subservient to the state, as they are now.

Then, and only then, will we be able to prepare ourselves for what will (already has) come as to correcting the course of our country.

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BL Zebob June 11, 2013 at 10:00 pm

Hey Ma, look!

People are voting for a guy that can’t even spell the topic he’s commenting on! It’s just like an election.

We really are screwed.

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GrandTango June 11, 2013 at 7:06 am

I’d say if FITS sees SC the way he describes: and still lives here…FITS is Lazy, Stupid and a Fat dumb@$$…

Sanford got what he wanted out of FITS (coaxing the Liberal-Tarians) and stopped propping FITS up, Haley kicks FITS’ @$$ daily and almost all of FITS’ “followers” are Obama-plant, leftwing radical idiots…

Maybe your ignorant @$$ should secede from SC…FITS hates SC, because it does not follow in the pattern of ignorance, like FITS…

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nitrat June 11, 2013 at 7:36 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-jr-libertarianisms-achilles-heel/2013/06/09/4dfd3c9c-cf8c-11e2-8f6b-67f40e176f03_story.html
Looks like more and more people are getting tired of the juvenile self-indulgence that IS Libertarianism.

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 8:42 am

Yeah fuck that. typical libtard media whore. fuckem.

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? June 11, 2013 at 9:56 am

It’s interesting that you attack a philosophy that has virtually ZERO say in the current political climate.

You have:

1. An overreaching gov’t
2. Multiple undeclared wars on multiple fronts
3. Rampant corruption in both the Democrat & Republican parties
4. A corrupted and immoral welfare system supporting people that are capable of taking care of themselves
5. A national debt that will only grow larger, with no way to fix short of a massive default/bankruptcy.

The nation has all of the above problems and more-and what do you, in your genius, focus on?

A political philosophy that has nothing to do with any of the above and still represents a super minority(10% if we are lucky) of the US population as a whole.

You are a joke.

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9" June 12, 2013 at 2:27 pm

“If libertarians are correct in claiming that they understand how best to organize a modern society, how is it that not a single country in the world in the early 21st century is organized along libertarian lines?”

In other words, “Why are there no libertarian countries?”

E.J. Dionne

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? June 12, 2013 at 3:13 pm

That aspect of his argument is interesting, because the proper argument of a libertarian would be that NO ONE understands best how to organize society. He doesn’t even get the argument right.

But further, Dilorenzo responded best to his argument the other day:

“E.J. Dionne argues in the first 97 percent of his column that: 1) libertarian ideas are irrelevant to politics, and then 2) concludes in the final sentence that there is “gridlock” in Washington because too many members of Congress are libertarians! Libertarian ideas are both irrelevant and all-dominating according to Dionne.”

It’s truly a schizophrenic write up.

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9" June 13, 2013 at 10:47 am

I don’t think ‘third-parties’ are going to get anywhere until the Electoral College is abolished,and I’m sure more people would vote, if they thought it truly counted.

nitrat June 11, 2013 at 7:36 am

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/ej-dionne-jr-libertarianisms-achilles-heel/2013/06/09/4dfd3c9c-cf8c-11e2-8f6b-67f40e176f03_story.html
Looks like more and more people are getting tired of the juvenile self-indulgence that IS Libertarianism.

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 8:42 am

Yeah fuck that. typical libtard media whore. fuckem.

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? June 11, 2013 at 9:56 am

It’s interesting that you attack a philosophy that has virtually ZERO say in the current political climate.

You have:

1. An overreaching gov’t
2. Multiple undeclared wars on multiple fronts
3. Rampant corruption in both the Democrat & Republican parties
4. A corrupted and immoral welfare system supporting people that are capable of taking care of themselves
5. A national debt that will only grow larger, with no way to fix short of a massive default/bankruptcy.

The nation has all of the above problems and more-and what do you, in your genius, focus on?

A political philosophy that has nothing to do with any of the above and still represents a super minority(10% if we are lucky) of the US population as a whole.

You are a joke.

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9" June 12, 2013 at 2:27 pm

“If libertarians are correct in claiming that they understand how best to organize a modern society, how is it that not a single country in the world in the early 21st century is organized along libertarian lines?”

In other words, “Why are there no libertarian countries?”

E.J. Dionne

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? June 12, 2013 at 3:13 pm

That aspect of his argument is interesting, because the proper argument of a libertarian would be that NO ONE understands best how to organize society. He doesn’t even get the argument right.

But further, Dilorenzo responded best to his argument the other day:

“E.J. Dionne argues in the first 97 percent of his column that: 1) libertarian ideas are irrelevant to politics, and then 2) concludes in the final sentence that there is “gridlock” in Washington because too many members of Congress are libertarians! Libertarian ideas are both irrelevant and all-dominating according to Dionne.”

It’s truly a schizophrenic write up.

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9" June 13, 2013 at 10:47 am

I don’t think ‘third-parties’ are going to get anywhere until the Electoral College is abolished,and I’m sure more people would vote, if they thought it truly counted.

JasonTromm June 11, 2013 at 8:49 am

I’d like to know where you get your statistics about schools. I think my children are getting a great education here in Greenville County.

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 8:56 am

Average sat scores by state ranks SC near the bottom

http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/policyblog/detail/sat-scores-by-state-2011

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vicupstate June 11, 2013 at 9:23 am

Most states use primarily the ACT. Look at Mississippi’s rank. That tells you the worth of that ranking.

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 10:02 am

Seriously. Number 47, Number 40. Really. Come on Vic. You’re splitting hairs with a fracking Desoto.

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vicupstate June 11, 2013 at 8:46 pm

Mississippi ranks 18th, because only class valedictorion’s are allowed to take the test. In SC, anyone can take the test. It is not apples and oranges. It’s a joke.

Frank Pytel June 12, 2013 at 7:06 am

Really? Only valedictorians? Shit that’s funny

JasonTromm June 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm

I don’t put much stock in SAT scores. You can score a perfect 1600 and still not have any marketable skills.

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shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 10:42 am

Your providing a good home environment encourages your children to do better in school. It worked in my household.

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JasonTromm June 11, 2013 at 8:49 am

I’d like to know where you get your statistics about schools. I think my children are getting a great education here in Greenville County.

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 8:56 am

Average sat scores by state ranks SC near the bottom

http://www.commonwealthfoundation.org/policyblog/detail/sat-scores-by-state-2011

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vicupstate June 11, 2013 at 9:23 am

Most states use primarily the ACT. Look at Mississippi’s rank. That tells you the worth of that ranking.

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 10:02 am

Seriously. Number 47, Number 40. Really. Come on Vic. You’re splitting hairs with a fracking Desoto.

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vicupstate June 11, 2013 at 8:46 pm

Mississippi ranks 18th, because only class valedictorion’s are allowed to take the test. In SC, anyone can take the test. It is not apples and oranges. It’s a joke.

Frank Pytel June 12, 2013 at 7:06 am

Really? Only valedictorians? Shit that’s funny

JasonTromm June 11, 2013 at 2:43 pm

I don’t put much stock in SAT scores. You can score a perfect 1600 and still not have any marketable skills.

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shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 10:42 am

Your providing a good home environment encourages your children to do better in school. It worked in my household.

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GrandTango June 11, 2013 at 8:59 am

Worship FITS and Vote democrat, and doom your life to an existence of Failure….

Generation after generation chooses John Land, Brad Hutto, Thomas Moore, FITS, Inez Tenenbaum, Robert Ford, Gilda-Cobb-Salad Jim Clyburn and Ted Vick…and the poverty and ignorance just compounds….

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Frank Pytel June 11, 2013 at 9:06 am

I’m just gonna run around and down vote all of your posts over the last year you HufPo whore.

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shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 10:19 am

A better idea is to vote all of them UP. Then copy and forward them with a cover letter to NSA. They have an opening now. They’ll love him! Since he would be in house, NSA could dismiss the nine analysts who have been unsuccessfully attempting to decipher his posts not only from here but elsewhere).

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Nölff June 11, 2013 at 9:24 am

SC couldn’t possibly succeed and make it work. Look at the people we elected… Our state doesn’t pull enough revenue to support itself… If it wasn’t for Mississippi, we’d have the dumbest state.

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Nölff June 11, 2013 at 9:24 am

SC couldn’t possibly succeed and make it work. Look at the people we elected… Our state doesn’t pull enough revenue to support itself… If it wasn’t for Mississippi, we’d have the dumbest state.

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GrandTango June 11, 2013 at 9:54 am

Didn’t I read somewhere that FITS’ father was a gravy-train ridin’ low-effort, high compensation USC professor? And doesn’t FITS have an undergad degree (daddy’s legacy pledge no doubt) from USC and a Masters from the USC J-School???

He shoulod be an expert on incest and self-loathing….And FITS is THE POSTER BOY for failed educators and a failed education system…

I think FITS’ personal data explains A LOT…for those w/ enough heavy-lifing exoperince to recognize what he is…I had to work for what i have. FITS shows that all you do by handing out freebies, is morally corrupt the child…and assure his lack of growth…

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9" June 11, 2013 at 10:59 am

Fits is in another PTSD fugue state..

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9" June 11, 2013 at 10:59 am

Fits is in another PTSD fugue state..

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bob sacamanto June 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm

Well, here in the 21st century, what are they gonna’ do to us? Shoot us? They’ll be too bankrupt.

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shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 3:27 pm

WORSE! You’ll be confined in a small whitewashed cell with a single light that never dims. You’ll be subjected to BigT/GrandTango’s posts read to you by Nikki Haley, alternated with the theme music from CHIPS, Gilligan’s Island, and the Beverly Hillbillies – all on a 24 hour continuous loop. You will be shown no mercy!

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bob sacamanto June 11, 2013 at 12:00 pm

Well, here in the 21st century, what are they gonna’ do to us? Shoot us? They’ll be too bankrupt.

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shifty henry June 11, 2013 at 3:27 pm

WORSE! You’ll be confined in a small whitewashed cell with a single light that never dims. You’ll be subjected to BigT/GrandTango’s posts read to you by Nikki Haley, alternated with the theme music from CHIPS, Gilligan’s Island, and the Beverly Hillbillies – all on a 24 hour continuous loop. You will be shown no mercy!

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fred June 11, 2013 at 12:59 pm

But it is soooo CHEAP for us YANKEES to live and retire here in this dumbass state. THANK YA yawl!!!!

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Finius Nullis June 11, 2013 at 1:43 pm

It’s THANKS Y’ALL – dammit!

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Ohio June 11, 2013 at 2:40 pm

Yeah, thanks youse guys.

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fred June 11, 2013 at 12:59 pm

But it is soooo CHEAP for us YANKEES to live and retire here in this dumbass state. THANK YA yawl!!!!

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Finius Nullis June 11, 2013 at 1:43 pm

It’s THANKS Y’ALL – dammit!

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Ohio June 11, 2013 at 2:40 pm

Yeah, thanks youse guys.

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GreenvilleLwyr June 11, 2013 at 1:01 pm

What’s left of your credibility is waning.

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vicupstate June 11, 2013 at 8:48 pm

Indeed. Dumbest, most tin-foil hat post yet.

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GreenvilleLwyr June 11, 2013 at 1:01 pm

What’s left of your credibility is waning.

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vicupstate June 11, 2013 at 8:48 pm

Indeed. Dumbest, most tin-foil hat post yet.

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Jan June 11, 2013 at 1:11 pm

I would consider secession, so long as we can do it by city. I’m not willing to move to another country, and it would cost a lot to move my business. So I am hoping that my area would choose to remain in the US. I would love the cheap foreign labor I would be able to get from those areas that chose to secede. As their economies collapsed people would be desperate for work at any price and US dollars to spend. Just like the rest of the third world.

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Jan June 11, 2013 at 1:11 pm

I would consider secession, so long as we can do it by city. I’m not willing to move to another country, and it would cost a lot to move my business. So I am hoping that my area would choose to remain in the US. I would love the cheap foreign labor I would be able to get from those areas that chose to secede. As their economies collapsed people would be desperate for work at any price and US dollars to spend. Just like the rest of the third world.

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afmajret June 11, 2013 at 1:58 pm

This is exactly why I’m glad I’m old and am going to die soon. F*** you all!

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afmajret June 11, 2013 at 1:58 pm

This is exactly why I’m glad I’m old and am going to die soon. F*** you all!

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hack June 11, 2013 at 6:11 pm

Secession gets a bad rap because the proponents of it are dubbed “Neo-Confederate.” Under the guidance of a government who doesn’t represent our interests they have promised us an egalitarian utopia on the notion of “equality,” which is as far from the truth as the present reality those on the left live. All that it has done, which is the case anytime human behavior is coerced by mandate to do something unnatural or insane, is make slaves of us all to the very powers responsible for the mandate. Secessionists don’t want to promote slavery, they wish the opposite. They seek to remove themselves from the imposed tyranny of debt servitude by socialist mandate, which is ultimately destructive to human nature and the productive classes that the livelihood of the nation state depends on. Adhering to the dogma of equality will lead to further enslavement, advocating and ultimately reaching secession will gain you independence and liberty, for a short time at least. The cycle will repeat itself of course, as is historically proven by anacyclosis, which is why Jefferson was correct with regards to his “watering the tree” analogy.

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2big2fall June 12, 2013 at 6:19 am

Reads like a copy/paste diatribe without the attribution…

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hack June 11, 2013 at 6:11 pm

Secession gets a bad rap because the proponents of it are dubbed “Neo-Confederate.” Under the guidance of a government who doesn’t represent our interests they have promised us an egalitarian utopia on the notion of “equality,” which is as far from the truth as the present reality those on the left live. All that it has done, which is the case anytime human behavior is coerced by mandate to do something unnatural or insane, is make slaves of us all to the very powers responsible for the mandate. Secessionists don’t want to promote slavery, they wish the opposite. They seek to remove themselves from the imposed tyranny of debt servitude by socialist mandate, which is ultimately destructive to human nature and the productive classes that the livelihood of the nation state depends on. Adhering to the dogma of equality will lead to further enslavement, advocating and ultimately reaching secession will gain you independence and liberty, for a short time at least. The cycle will repeat itself of course, as is historically proven by anacyclosis, which is why Jefferson was correct with regards to his “watering the tree” analogy.

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2big2fall June 12, 2013 at 6:19 am

Reads like a copy/paste diatribe without the attribution…

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Jan June 11, 2013 at 7:26 pm

Secessionist are nothing more than people who want to abandon their country but are afraid to do it alone. They want to gather enough thugs together to force everyone in a geographical region to go along with them unwillingly if necessary. If you don’t like America, there are lots of places you can go. Sell your property and move. But don’t try to force me to sell my property and move because you don’t like the country I live in and you need my land and property to support your new country. Give up your citizenship, but don’t try to force me to give up mine.
I am an American. I love my country. I am not interested in being the citizen of any other country; and I certainly, don’t want to live in a country dominated by people like hack, Big T and Fits, because I think that would be hell on earth.

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Jan June 11, 2013 at 7:26 pm

Secessionist are nothing more than people who want to abandon their country but are afraid to do it alone. They want to gather enough thugs together to force everyone in a geographical region to go along with them unwillingly if necessary. If you don’t like America, there are lots of places you can go. Sell your property and move. But don’t try to force me to sell my property and move because you don’t like the country I live in and you need my land and property to support your new country. Give up your citizenship, but don’t try to force me to give up mine.
I am an American. I love my country. I am not interested in being the citizen of any other country; and I certainly, don’t want to live in a country dominated by people like hack, Big T and Fits, because I think that would be hell on earth.

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Steve Hoffman - Murrells Inlet June 12, 2013 at 12:22 pm

Reading this article makes me understand why the Republican Liberty Caucus has grown exponentially in South Carolina during the past 3 years. They are definitely fighting the traditionalists (being tactful here) in both the upstate and in the Charleston area. Soon, the Grand Strand (also know as the redneck riviera) will also have an RLC chapter. To those at FITSNews; All is not lost, the liberty movement is alive and well in South Carolina, its just that currently the traditional Republicans outnumber us.

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Steve Hoffman - Murrells Inlet June 12, 2013 at 12:22 pm

Reading this article makes me understand why the Republican Liberty Caucus has grown exponentially in South Carolina during the past 3 years. They are definitely fighting the traditionalists (being tactful here) in both the upstate and in the Charleston area. Soon, the Grand Strand (also know as the redneck riviera) will also have an RLC chapter. To those at FITSNews; All is not lost, the liberty movement is alive and well in South Carolina, its just that currently the traditional Republicans outnumber us.

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