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Fiscally liberal “neo-conservatives” John McCain and Lindsey Graham attacked their colleague Rand Paul for having the audacity to oppose the use of drone strikes on American citizens. McCain and Graham – who are nothing but whores for America’s military-industrial complex – derided Paul for filibustering U.S. President Barack Obama’s nomination…

Fiscally liberal “neo-conservatives” John McCain and Lindsey Graham attacked their colleague Rand Paul for having the audacity to oppose the use of drone strikes on American citizens.

McCain and Graham – who are nothing but whores for America’s military-industrial complex – derided Paul for filibustering U.S. President Barack Obama’s nomination of John Brennan as director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA). Paul filibustered Brennan’s nomination for thirteen hours on Wednesday night in protest of the Obama administration’s refusal to rule out the use of drone strikes against American citizens on U.S. soil.

“If Mr. Paul wants to be taken seriously he needs to do more than pull political stunts – than fire up impressionable libertarian kids,” he said. “I don’t think (his filibuster was) helpful to the American people.”

Wait … what? Standing for fundamental liberties makes one an “impressionable kid?”

Rand Paul during his filibuster.
Rand Paul during his filibuster.

Graham joined McCain, saying he was “disappointed” in Paul for filibustering Obama’s nominee – and that Paul’s notion of U.S.-based drone strikes was “ridiculous.” Graham, incidentally, revealed last month that U.S. drone strikes have killed an estimated 4,700 people over the last few years.

“Sometimes you hit innocent people, and I hate that, but we’re at war, and we’ve taken out some very senior members of Al-Qaeda,” Graham said.

While Paul was filibustering on Wednesday night of this week, Graham and McCain were dining privately with Obama at the Jefferson Hotel in downtown Washington (presumably receiving their talking points).

Graham later referred to the meeting with Obama as “productive.”

U.S. Senators who stood with Paul include Ted Cruz (R-Texas), Marco Rubio (R-Florida), Mike Lee (R-Utah), Pat Toomey (R-Pennsylvania), John Thune (R-South Dakota.), John Barrasso (R-Wyoming), Tim Scott (R-South Carolina), John Cornyn (R-Texas), Jerry Moran (R-Kansas), Ron Johnson (R-Wisconsin), Jeff Flake (R-Arizona), Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) and Saxby Chambliss (R-Georgia).

One Democrat – Oregon’s Ron Wyden – also supported Paul.

In South Carolina – where Graham is likely to face GOP primary opposition from the right – pro-liberty Republicans were livid.

Even establishment Republicans – while not eager to bash Graham – made no secret of their support for Paul.

“I’m so proud of Senator Paul,” GOP activist Lannieu Siegling wrote in an email to his followers. “We could use more folks who will stand up!”

On the other side of the debate? The Obama-fed mainstream media – led by reporter Chris Cillizza of The Washington Post.

According to Cillizza, “Obama is now the tough-on-terror guy” as a result of his support for drone strikes, “the politician willing to do whatever it takes to bring suspected terrorists to justice.”

Hold up … nobody is unilaterally opposing drone strikes (at least not on this website). This debate is about their use on U.S. soil against American citizens – something which for reasons surpassing understanding the Obama administration refuses to declare unconstitutional.

Yet according to Cillizza that fundamental distinction is a nuance which will be “all but lost” on most people.

Really?

This website supports the use of any forcible means necessary to protect legitimate American interests from credible threats. What we oppose is the perpetuation of a military budget that exceeds Cold War dimensions (with no Cold War to fight) and an interventionist foreign policy which incites violence against our country rather than keeping its people safe.

Of course to hear McCain tell it those are the positions of impressionable children … yet as he speaks, he and Graham continue to fatten their campaign accounts with contributions from those who profit off of such engagements.

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158 comments

CorruptionInColumbia March 7, 2013 at 1:37 pm

I do so hope that we get someone who can defeat Graham in the coming elections.
We do not need to suffer another six years with him and his reaching across the aisle.

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jimlewisowb March 7, 2013 at 2:01 pm

Now that Light in the Loafers is in the spotlight more than ever he no longer will be seen reaching across the aisle

LL had the Senate Custodial Staff cut a slit in the carpet on both sides of the aisle

Now LL just slithers under the carpet to the other side to do his dirty deeds and then slithers back to maintain his conservative status for us folks back home

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 2:24 pm

“reaching across the aisle”

Earth to CorruptioninColumbia, what do you think politics is about? It is the art of compromise. Sure we can have 100 different Senatorial opinions from which no one will budge, but even less will get done.

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CorruptionInColumbia March 7, 2013 at 2:30 pm

There is a time to compromise and a time to stand your ground, especially when the freedom of your constituents and their well-being is involved. Lindsey seems too inclined to bend over and let the other side do what they want with our liberties and too little inclined to stand up for those who would protect us.

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? March 7, 2013 at 3:37 pm

I think you meant to say “We do not need to suffer another six years with him and his reach-arounds”.

You’re welcome.

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CorruptionInColumbia March 7, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Good shot, “?” !!!!

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 4:51 pm

You Dumb@$$#$ send Alvin Greene to represent you (and he does)…
But we need a Palmetto version of Rand Paul…or another Jim DeMint…
Despite the politcal revolution that has ousted democrats from statewide office…we STILL have a ways to go to overcome the Sanford and Graham opportunists…who are still way to democrat…but call themselves Rs…

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 5:26 pm

Yep T that’s what we need. Another Deminted who will do absolutely nothing for 6 years but flap his jaws.

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 5:44 pm

If the Senate had 50 Jim DeMints in it…your lord-god Obama would NEVER get elected…
So it’s NO Wonder you HATE him. He is the Anti-Obama…

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Dr. Ruth March 7, 2013 at 7:09 pm

Keep it yer pants, T! You’re casting a tiny shadow….

Big T's mom does it in the ass March 7, 2013 at 9:22 pm

The Senate does not elect the President dumbass.

Chris Memminger March 7, 2013 at 9:21 pm

We had one of those and he screwed a stranger while his wife took care of the kids. Thanks tea party.

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CorruptionInColumbia March 7, 2013 at 1:37 pm

I do so hope that we get someone who can defeat Graham in the coming elections.
We do not need to suffer another six years with him and his reaching across the aisle.

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jimlewisowb March 7, 2013 at 2:01 pm

Now that Light in the Loafers is in the spotlight more than ever he no longer will be seen reaching across the aisle

LL had the Senate Custodial Staff cut a slit in the carpet on both sides of the aisle

Now LL just slithers under the carpet to the other side to do his dirty deeds and then slithers back to maintain his conservative status for us folks back home

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 2:24 pm

“reaching across the aisle”

Earth to CorruptioninColumbia, what do you think politics is about? It is the art of compromise. Sure we can have 100 different Senatorial opinions from which no one will budge, but even less will get done.

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CorruptionInColumbia March 7, 2013 at 2:30 pm

There is a time to compromise and a time to stand your ground, especially when the freedom of your constituents and their well-being is involved. Lindsey seems too inclined to bend over and let the other side do what they want with our liberties and too little inclined to stand up for those who would protect us.

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? March 7, 2013 at 3:37 pm

I think you meant to say “We do not need to suffer another six years with him and his reach-arounds”.

You’re welcome.

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CorruptionInColumbia March 7, 2013 at 4:22 pm

Good shot, “?” !!!!

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 4:51 pm

You Dumb@$$#$ send Alvin Greene to represent you (and he does)…
But we need a Palmetto version of Rand Paul…or another Jim DeMint…
Despite the politcal revolution that has ousted democrats from statewide office…we STILL have a ways to go to overcome the Sanford and Graham opportunists…who are still way to democrat…but call themselves Rs…

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 5:26 pm

Yep T that’s what we need. Another Deminted who will do absolutely nothing for 6 years but flap his jaws.

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 5:44 pm

If the Senate had 50 Jim DeMints in it…your lord-god Obama would NEVER get elected…
So it’s NO Wonder you HATE him. He is the Anti-Obama…

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Dr. Ruth March 7, 2013 at 7:09 pm

Keep it yer pants, T! You’re casting a tiny shadow….

Big T's mom does it in the ass March 7, 2013 at 9:22 pm

The Senate does not elect the President dumbass.

Chris Memminger March 7, 2013 at 9:21 pm

We had one of those and he screwed a stranger while his wife took care of the kids. Thanks tea party.

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 1:41 pm

Bottom line: FITS look in the Mirror…You ARE Graham and McCain…
You want to be accepted by the middlers, just like they so covet…
Rand Paul is like me. The people who suck you off for bashing people like me…HATE Rand Paul and me…as much as they applaud you for being a moderate and “open minded.”
You, and Graham, still have not gotten over Bush castrating McCain 12-plus years ago.

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Bubbas Brother March 7, 2013 at 1:47 pm

“…Rand Paul is like me…”

You must mean that your hair looks like it was last groomed by a deranged arborist with a weed whacker…

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 2:01 pm

If ALL the GOP was Like me and Rand Paul, little Punks like you and your god Obama would be running a community center on the South Side, instead of ruining this country…
You and FITS Love moderates like McCain or kooks like Ron Paul…because it empowers your ignorant leftwing idol..

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Buz Martin March 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm

Wait a minute, T, you need to keep your bullshit straight a little better than that. Now you say you are like Rand Paul, but then you turn around and diss his daddy? Are you kidding me? A chickenshit like you that won’t show his face and use his real name and calls Rand’s father a kook? He would beat your pussy ass to a blood pulp, son!

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 4:48 pm

What is hilarious, Boz…is that you sing in unison w/ Obama demanding gun control against violence, but you represent yourself as some violent out of control Kook-Dumb@$$…
You are the drunk at the bar, always wanting to fight..until someone stomps the $#!* out of your alcohol saturated @$$…Then you want to’ call the law’…whining to anybody who’ll listen that you are a victim….

Isotope Soap March 7, 2013 at 7:39 pm

Boz would kick your ass, Bigums.

CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 2:26 pm

I asked Rand Paul about you Big T and he said, “WHO?”.

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 1:41 pm

Bottom line: FITS look in the Mirror…You ARE Graham and McCain…
You want to be accepted by the middlers, just like they so covet…
Rand Paul is like me. The people who suck you off for bashing people like me…HATE Rand Paul and me…as much as they applaud you for being a moderate and “open minded.”
You, and Graham, still have not gotten over Bush castrating McCain 12-plus years ago.

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The Colonel (R) March 7, 2013 at 1:47 pm

“…Rand Paul is like me…”

You must mean that your hair looks like it was last groomed by a deranged arborist with a weed whacker…

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 2:01 pm

If ALL the GOP was Like me and Rand Paul, little Punks like you and your god Obama would be running a community center on the South Side, instead of ruining this country…
You and FITS Love moderates like McCain or kooks like Ron Paul…because it empowers your ignorant leftwing idol..

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Boz Martin March 7, 2013 at 4:23 pm

Wait a minute, T, you need to keep your bullshit straight a little better than that. Now you say you are like Rand Paul, but then you turn around and diss his daddy? Are you kidding me? A chickenshit like you that won’t show his face and use his real name and calls Rand’s father a kook? He would beat your pussy ass to a blood pulp, son!

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 4:48 pm

What is hilarious, Boz…is that you sing in unison w/ Obama demanding gun control against violence, but you represent yourself as some violent out of control Kook-Dumb@$$…
You are the drunk at the bar, always wanting to fight..until someone stomps the $#!* out of your alcohol saturated @$$…Then you want to’ call the law’…whining to anybody who’ll listen that you are a victim….

John Boy March 7, 2013 at 7:39 pm

Boz would kick your ass, Bigums.

CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 2:26 pm

I asked Rand Paul about you Big T and he said, “WHO?”.

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Teabunny March 7, 2013 at 2:05 pm

the Tea party is after the old guard GOP. they are military whores!
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/09/28/tea-party-activists-plan-2014-targets/

south carolina needs a good libertarian/tea/constitutional to run against lindsay graham in 2014. contact freedomworks if you have a thought! believe me Tea is sick to death of the GOP too.

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 2:28 pm

I am sure they will draw as many votes (percentage wise) as Paul did in the last Presidential election.

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Smirks March 7, 2013 at 3:09 pm

Open primaries would slaughter your libertarian/tea/constitutional candidate in the primary without even one ounce of effort. Graham has a good number of voters on both sides of the aisle in this state.

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:28 pm

Lindsey Graham is counting on Dem votes to fend of a liberty challenger. To keep the Dems “at home” a liberty candidate needs to file as a Democrat. I am sure there is a decent conservative Democrat in the state that will accomplish this objective. Look for them now!

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Teabunny March 7, 2013 at 2:05 pm

the Tea party is after the old guard GOP. they are military whores!
http://blogs.wsj.com/washwire/2012/09/28/tea-party-activists-plan-2014-targets/

south carolina needs a good libertarian/tea/constitutional to run against lindsay graham in 2014. contact freedomworks if you have a thought! believe me Tea is sick to death of the GOP too.

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 2:28 pm

I am sure they will draw as many votes (percentage wise) as Paul did in the last Presidential election.

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Smirks March 7, 2013 at 3:09 pm

Open primaries would slaughter your libertarian/tea/constitutional candidate in the primary without even one ounce of effort. Graham has a good number of voters on both sides of the aisle in this state.

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:28 pm

Lindsey Graham is counting on Dem votes to fend of a liberty challenger. To keep the Dems “at home” a liberty candidate needs to file as a Democrat. I am sure there is a decent conservative Democrat in the state that will accomplish this objective. Look for them now!

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm

Rand Paul on Rush right now. Rand HAS Real GUTS.
FITS Moderates and liberals HATE HATE HATE Rush, like you hate me…
Because we KNOW you better than you know yourselves…

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Dr. Wool Over Eyes March 7, 2013 at 6:47 pm

Rush…enough said.

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 2:09 pm

Rand Paul on Rush right now. Rand HAS Real GUTS.
FITS Moderates and liberals HATE HATE HATE Rush, like you hate me…
Because we KNOW you better than you know yourselves…

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Dr. Wool Over Eyes March 7, 2013 at 6:47 pm

Rush…enough said.

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Vanguard16 March 7, 2013 at 2:14 pm

I don’t see a problem using a drone. Not much difference when it comes to killing bad guys!!

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Bubbas Brother March 7, 2013 at 2:36 pm

Having seen a drone strike or two and having done some BDA after a strike, I can tell you unequivocally that there is a huge problem with using drones as law enforcement “weapons”. They are not surgical weapons in the “sniper” sense. The most commonly used drone strike weapon is the AGM 114 Hellfire – a laser guided missile with an 18-20 pound warhead. 20 pounds of high explosive has a burst/kill radius of roughly 50 meters though the Hellfire’s shaped charge warhead attenuates that somewhat.

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 9:21 pm

and your point is?

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Bubbas Brother March 7, 2013 at 11:38 pm

If you plan to kill Abdul, Tyrone or Larry in their house here in the US, do it with a weapon that minimizes collateral damage. A 7.62×51 Lapua should be more than enough, failing that, an M203 or Mk19 should provide an admirable mess with a much small beaten zone.

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Vanguard16 March 7, 2013 at 2:14 pm

I don’t see a problem using a drone. Not much difference when it comes to killing bad guys!!

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The Colonel (R) March 7, 2013 at 2:36 pm

Having seen a drone strike or two and having done some BDA after a strike, I can tell you unequivocally that there is a huge problem with using drones as law enforcement “weapons”. They are not surgical weapons in the “sniper” sense. The most commonly used drone strike weapon is the AGM 114 Hellfire – a laser guided missile with an 18-20 pound warhead. 20 pounds of high explosive has a burst/kill radius of roughly 50 meters though the Hellfire’s shaped charge warhead attenuates that somewhat.

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 9:21 pm

and your point is?

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The Colonel (R) March 7, 2013 at 11:38 pm

If you plan to kill Abdul, Tyrone or Larry in their house here in the US, do it with a weapon that minimizes collateral damage. A 7.62×51 Lapua should be more than enough, failing that, an M203 or Mk19 should provide an admirable mess with a much small beaten zone.

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 2:30 pm

“his principled filibuster on behalf of our fundamental liberties”

Sic Willie, who is “our”? You got a mouse in your pocket or do you think you speak for the majority of citizens?

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CNSYD sucks March 7, 2013 at 3:31 pm

He speaks for you. Deal with it.

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Maybe he speaks for lemmings such as yourself but he doesn’t speak for me.

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 2:30 pm

“his principled filibuster on behalf of our fundamental liberties”

Sic Willie, who is “our”? You got a mouse in your pocket or do you think you speak for the majority of citizens?

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CNSYD sucks March 7, 2013 at 3:31 pm

He speaks for you. Deal with it.

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Maybe he speaks for lemmings such as yourself but he doesn’t speak for me.

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bob sacamanto March 7, 2013 at 2:38 pm

Awww… Johnny and Lindsey upset that somebody else is getting attention in the Senate???

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bob sacamanto March 7, 2013 at 2:38 pm

Awww… Johnny and Lindsey upset that somebody else is getting attention in the Senate???

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Bubbas Brother March 7, 2013 at 3:03 pm

This just in:

White House, Holder respond to Rand Paul: ‘The answer is no’

Attorney General Eric Holder wrote Sen. Rand Paul,R-Ky., to confirm that President Obama does not have the authority to kill an American on U.S. soil in a non-combat situation, Obama’s spokesman announced today.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney quoted from the letter that Holder sent to Paul today. “Does the president have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on an American soil?” Holder wrote, per Carney. “The answer is no.”

Carney added that, “if the United States were under attack, there were an imminent threat,” the president has the authority to protect the country from that assault.

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Bubbas Brother March 7, 2013 at 3:51 pm

Now if we could get them to be forthcoming on Benghazi…

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The Colonel (R) March 7, 2013 at 3:03 pm

This just in:

White House, Holder respond to Rand Paul: ‘The answer is no’

Attorney General Eric Holder wrote Sen. Rand Paul,R-Ky., to confirm that President Obama does not have the authority to kill an American on U.S. soil in a non-combat situation, Obama’s spokesman announced today.

White House Press Secretary Jay Carney quoted from the letter that Holder sent to Paul today. “Does the president have the authority to use a weaponized drone to kill an American not engaged in combat on an American soil?” Holder wrote, per Carney. “The answer is no.”

Carney added that, “if the United States were under attack, there were an imminent threat,” the president has the authority to protect the country from that assault.

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The Colonel (R) March 7, 2013 at 3:51 pm

Now if we could get them to be forthcoming on Benghazi…

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Smirks March 7, 2013 at 3:05 pm

It sure is funny watching these two dance between attacking Obama and sucking up to him. Most of the times, fence-sitting pisses off most people on both sides and you end up pretty damn lonely pretty damn fast, but luckily for these two clods, they’ve managed to find a voter base that is too busy staring at the ground to notice.

I’ll be shocked if we vote out Haley. I’ll be amazed if Sanford loses. I’ll eat my damn hat if Graham gets fired.

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Moman50 March 7, 2013 at 9:55 pm

Graham will EASILY win.We always see these Right Wingers get all worked up before dutifully returning to the fold.

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:20 pm

He wins his primary because the Dems vote for him in that state. It’s an open primary state and they will cross over to keep out a true liberty oriented candidate and Lindsey is counting on this very thing.

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Smirks March 7, 2013 at 3:05 pm

It sure is funny watching these two dance between attacking Obama and sucking up to him. Most of the times, fence-sitting pisses off most people on both sides and you end up pretty damn lonely pretty damn fast, but luckily for these two clods, they’ve managed to find a voter base that is too busy staring at the ground to notice.

I’ll be shocked if we vote out Haley. I’ll be amazed if Sanford loses. I’ll eat my damn hat if Graham gets fired.

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Moman50 March 7, 2013 at 9:55 pm

Graham will EASILY win.We always see these Right Wingers get all worked up before dutifully returning to the fold.

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:20 pm

He wins his primary because the Dems vote for him in that state. It’s an open primary state and they will cross over to keep out a true liberty oriented candidate and Lindsey is counting on this very thing.

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Mark March 7, 2013 at 3:44 pm

Lindsey started turning me against the repubs a long time ago. My transformation is complete. Time for a new party.

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Moman50 March 7, 2013 at 9:54 pm

Youll vote STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN Right Winger and like it!

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Mark March 8, 2013 at 9:37 am

Never have and never will.

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tim hall March 8, 2013 at 11:51 am

Troll much?

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:19 pm

Mark, what do you think real conservatives and individualists are trying to do within the GOP? Any political observer over the decades has seen both parties move steadily to the collectivist left, all loving the expansion of the federal government outside the limits of the Constitution.
All liberty loving Americans need to help us reform the Republican Party and bring liberty back to it in a meaningful way. Otherwise there will never be any real choices on the ballots. No real competition. No substantive differences.
Third party development sounds great but is at least 20 years away from being able to mount any challenge to the mainline parties.
I wish it were different but the people are still too programmed to exodus in mass anytime soon.

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? March 8, 2013 at 2:10 pm

“All liberty loving Americans need to help us reform the Republican Party and bring liberty back to it in a meaningful way. Otherwise there will never be any real choices on the ballots. No real competition. No substantive differences.Third party development sounds great but is at least 20 years away from being able to mount any challenge to the mainline parties.”

The Republican party is hopeless. This “change” you think you can somehow enact is ridiculous. Even further, just like the Titanic, those who see the iceberg in the Republican party can’t steer the ship away from it in time. This “20 years” figure you posit is interesting, but not only would it take that amount of time to actually “change” the GOP, it’s time we as a nation don’t have…

So really, it’s all for naught. It’s pretty hopeless short of outright bankruptcy/default/hyperinflation….I welcome the first two….not so much the third.

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Mark March 7, 2013 at 3:44 pm

Lindsey started turning me against the repubs a long time ago. My transformation is complete. Time for a new party.

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Moman50 March 7, 2013 at 9:54 pm

Youll vote STRAIGHT REPUBLICAN Right Winger and like it!

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Mark March 8, 2013 at 9:37 am

Never have and never will.

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tim hall March 8, 2013 at 11:51 am

Troll much?

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:19 pm

Mark, what do you think real conservatives and individualists are trying to do within the GOP? Any political observer over the decades has seen both parties move steadily to the collectivist left, all loving the expansion of the federal government outside the limits of the Constitution.
All liberty loving Americans need to help us reform the Republican Party and bring liberty back to it in a meaningful way. Otherwise there will never be any real choices on the ballots. No real competition. No substantive differences.
Third party development sounds great but is at least 20 years away from being able to mount any challenge to the mainline parties.
I wish it were different but the people are still too programmed to exodus in mass anytime soon.

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? March 8, 2013 at 2:10 pm

“All liberty loving Americans need to help us reform the Republican Party and bring liberty back to it in a meaningful way. Otherwise there will never be any real choices on the ballots. No real competition. No substantive differences.Third party development sounds great but is at least 20 years away from being able to mount any challenge to the mainline parties.”

The Republican party is hopeless. This “change” you think you can somehow enact is ridiculous. Even further, just like the Titanic, those who see the iceberg in the Republican party can’t steer the ship away from it in time. This “20 years” figure you posit is interesting, but not only would it take that amount of time to actually “change” the GOP, it’s time we as a nation don’t have…

So really, it’s all for naught. It’s pretty hopeless short of outright bankruptcy/default/hyperinflation….I welcome the first two….not so much the third.

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Crooner March 7, 2013 at 4:36 pm

Damn. Obama got the Republicans so fucked up they’re running around crying about protecting the civil rights of home-grown terrorists.
You’ve got to admit that’s funny coming from the crowd who pushed the Patriot Act.

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Hank_Rearden March 7, 2013 at 6:53 pm

What’s really funny is that this is coming from the crowd that RENEWED it, you damn hypocrite. One more thing before you get cute: keep your bullshit off me too, I NEVER supported it and NEVER supported anyone that has, obviously unlike you.

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Crooner March 7, 2013 at 7:13 pm

Hey Hank: How’s this for cute? Go fuck yourself.

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La Gloria Cubana March 8, 2013 at 6:59 am

haha… Crooner, you little Leftist fuzzball, you just got owned by Hank. Hank is correct, your hypocrisy is stunningly comical and stunningly typical.

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tim hall March 8, 2013 at 11:49 am

You just lost your little temper, didn’t you. LOL

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Hank_Rearden March 7, 2013 at 6:57 pm

What’s really funny is that THIS is coming from the crowd that RENEWED it. Don’t try and cute either, I NEVER supported anyone that has. Do you not even care about being a filthy hypocrite before spouting off?

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Crooner, you’re such a dork! Clearly a Democrat that trusts Obama and his Marxist allies. Are you also a collectivist? Do you even know the term? May I recommend a little reading for you?
http://www.fee.org/files/doclib/20121116_TheLaw.pdf

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Crooner March 7, 2013 at 4:36 pm

Damn. Obama got the Republicans so fucked up they’re running around crying about protecting the civil rights of home-grown terrorists.
You’ve got to admit that’s funny coming from the crowd who pushed the Patriot Act.

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Hank_Rearden March 7, 2013 at 6:53 pm

What’s really funny is that this is coming from the crowd that RENEWED it, you damn hypocrite. One more thing before you get cute: keep your bullshit off me too, I NEVER supported it and NEVER supported anyone that has, obviously unlike you.

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Crooner March 7, 2013 at 7:13 pm

Hey Hank: How’s this for cute? Go fuck yourself.

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La Gloria Cubana March 8, 2013 at 6:59 am

haha… Crooner, you little Leftist fuzzball, you just got owned by Hank. Hank is correct, your hypocrisy is stunningly comical and stunningly typical.

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tim hall March 8, 2013 at 11:49 am

You just lost your little temper, didn’t you. LOL

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Hank_Rearden March 7, 2013 at 6:57 pm

What’s really funny is that THIS is coming from the crowd that RENEWED it. Don’t try and cute either, I NEVER supported anyone that has. Do you not even care about being a filthy hypocrite before spouting off?

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:09 pm

Crooner, you’re such a dork! Clearly a Democrat that trusts Obama and his Marxist allies. Are you also a collectivist? Do you even know the term? May I recommend a little reading for you?
http://www.fee.org/files/doclib/20121116_TheLaw.pdf

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cuvinny March 7, 2013 at 4:40 pm

I hate the drone program as a whole, we are violating other countries sovereignty with our repeated cross boarder attacks. But this filibuster was fucking dumb. Before it Obama already said he could not issues attacks on US soil unless there is an active threat.

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:04 pm

So you trust Obama?

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cuvinny March 7, 2013 at 4:40 pm

I hate the drone program as a whole, we are violating other countries sovereignty with our repeated cross boarder attacks. But this filibuster was fucking dumb. Before it Obama already said he could not issues attacks on US soil unless there is an active threat.

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:04 pm

So you trust Obama?

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Hank_Rearden March 7, 2013 at 4:54 pm

Here in SC, getting rid of Graham in the primary is absolutely priority number one. There is no greater enemy of the constitution and liberty than this guy. He supports climate change legislation, Cap and Tax, raising tax rates outright, unlimited and undeclared war with anyone and everyone, gun control and lots of other socialist policies. He has been all the more dangerous as he wears the label he has helped turn completely meaningless. If he is a speaker at the convention and I get elected a delegate, I will be filibustering this fascist commie prick with boos and they can drag me out if they wish. He once swore during a town hall he would not let the Republican Party become the Ron Paul party. Guess what Graham, you’re losing the delusion of the control you insinuated you had, but of course never really did.

Tom Davis for Senate!!!

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 5:28 pm

Davis knows he would get his A$$ cut so he will not run. he is nothing but a carpetbagger Sanfraud lite.

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Hank_Rearden March 7, 2013 at 6:03 pm

I’m floored by your sophisticated use of intellect.

In all seriousness, I am now dumber for having read your post, and may God have mercy on your soul. Try forming an actual thought next time you decide to type.

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Tweets do not policy make March 7, 2013 at 9:25 pm

I agree! Tom Davis retweets everything anybody says nice about him but is so ineffectual in the Senate he might as well not be there and refuses to challenge Lindsey, Nikki, or anyone else. Way to make a difference. Keep tweeting to change the world.

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Hank_Rearden March 8, 2013 at 10:38 am

Ineffectual? How “effectual” can a man be if he is alone in a sea of socialism and corruption? You sound like a liberal judging someone by how many laws he passes instead of what principles he holds.

As for tweets, you must not have looked at his tweets lately. All his recent ones have been dedicated to pointing out how disgusting Lindsey is. As for policy, he doesn’t have the platform to challenge him since he’s in SC government, not DC.

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:01 pm

God bless you “Hank”. Though I live in Miami now, I was born and raised in Columbia, SC. My family members are still there, scattered a little but still there and they all oppose Graham and are not Democrats.
S.C. is an open primary state. That means Democrats can vote for Lindsey to help defeat a liberty challenger. Watch out for that. To keep the Dems “at home” we need to run a liberty challenger in their own party primary as well. It’s a lot I know but that’s how the Dems play both sides of the fence in S.C.

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Hank_Rearden March 7, 2013 at 4:54 pm

Here in SC, getting rid of Graham in the primary is absolutely priority number one. There is no greater enemy of the constitution and liberty than this guy. He supports climate change legislation, Cap and Tax, raising tax rates outright, unlimited and undeclared war with anyone and everyone, gun control and lots of other socialist policies. He has been all the more dangerous as he wears the label he has helped turn completely meaningless. If he is a speaker at the convention and I get elected a delegate, I will be filibustering this fascist commie prick with boos and they can drag me out if they wish. He once swore during a town hall he would not let the Republican Party become the Ron Paul party. Guess what Graham, you’re losing the delusion of the control you insinuated you had, but of course never really did.

Tom Davis for Senate!!!

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CNSYD March 7, 2013 at 5:28 pm

Davis knows he would get his A$$ cut so he will not run. he is nothing but a carpetbagger Sanfraud lite.

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Hank_Rearden March 7, 2013 at 6:03 pm

I’m floored by your sophisticated use of intellect.

In all seriousness, I am now dumber for having read your post, and may God have mercy on your soul. Try forming an actual thought next time you decide to type.

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Tweets do not policy make March 7, 2013 at 9:25 pm

I agree! Tom Davis retweets everything anybody says nice about him but is so ineffectual in the Senate he might as well not be there and refuses to challenge Lindsey, Nikki, or anyone else. Way to make a difference. Keep tweeting to change the world.

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Hank_Rearden March 8, 2013 at 10:38 am

Ineffectual? How “effectual” can a man be if he is alone in a sea of socialism and corruption? You sound like a liberal judging someone by how many laws he passes instead of what principles he holds.

As for tweets, you must not have looked at his tweets lately. All his recent ones have been dedicated to pointing out how disgusting Lindsey is. As for policy, he doesn’t have the platform to challenge him since he’s in SC government, not DC.

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 1:01 pm

God bless you “Hank”. Though I live in Miami now, I was born and raised in Columbia, SC. My family members are still there, scattered a little but still there and they all oppose Graham and are not Democrats.
S.C. is an open primary state. That means Democrats can vote for Lindsey to help defeat a liberty challenger. Watch out for that. To keep the Dems “at home” we need to run a liberty challenger in their own party primary as well. It’s a lot I know but that’s how the Dems play both sides of the fence in S.C.

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Burn In Hell Graham March 7, 2013 at 5:06 pm

Both McCain and Graham can go screw themselves. They suck. And they are both PRO illegal Mexican.
God damn two faced lying traitors!

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Burn In Hell Graham March 7, 2013 at 5:06 pm

Both McCain and Graham can go screw themselves. They suck. And they are both PRO illegal Mexican.
God damn two faced lying traitors!

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? March 7, 2013 at 6:14 pm

Lindsey is not a whore. She’s a high class escort for those looking for the full girlfriend experience.

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9" March 8, 2013 at 1:18 am Reply
? March 8, 2013 at 9:07 am

My bad. To each their own.

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9" March 10, 2013 at 6:02 pm

that’s OK,and Mack does provide escort services,internationally…his nipples are bigger than my last girlfriend’s…

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? March 7, 2013 at 6:14 pm

Lindsey is not a whore. She’s a high class escort for those looking for the full girlfriend experience.

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9" March 8, 2013 at 1:18 am Reply
? March 8, 2013 at 9:07 am

My bad. To each their own.

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9" March 10, 2013 at 6:02 pm

that’s OK,and Mack does provide escort services,internationally…his nipples are bigger than my last girlfriend’s…

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JC March 7, 2013 at 7:08 pm

The Vietcong should have just killed McCain when he was a POW. That warmongering scumbag and Light in the Loafers Lindsey are the definition of evil. There’s never enough war, never enough police or spy power for the Federal Government, never enough whoring for Israel and the Likud Party and never enough money for the military-industrial complex. Ron and Rand Paul expose neoconservatives like them for the liars they are, talking about limited government while creating a fascist-like system that abhors due process and civil liberties. That’s why McCain and Graham despise the Pauls.

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JC March 7, 2013 at 7:08 pm

The Vietcong should have just killed McCain when he was a POW. That warmongering scumbag and Light in the Loafers Lindsey are the definition of evil. There’s never enough war, never enough police or spy power for the Federal Government, never enough whoring for Israel and the Likud Party and never enough money for the military-industrial complex. Ron and Rand Paul expose neoconservatives like them for the liars they are, talking about limited government while creating a fascist-like system that abhors due process and civil liberties. That’s why McCain and Graham despise the Pauls.

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Isotope Soap March 7, 2013 at 7:36 pm

Poor Bobby Jindal…the party of stupid keeps ticking like an old Timex.

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John Boy March 7, 2013 at 7:36 pm

Poor Bobby Jindal…the party of stupid keeps ticking like an old Timex.

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Gamercock March 7, 2013 at 7:41 pm

I’m so pretty oh so pretty,,,Miss Lindsey had an absolutely fabulous time at the White House.

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Gamercock March 7, 2013 at 7:41 pm

I’m so pretty oh so pretty,,,Miss Lindsey had an absolutely fabulous time at the White House.

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 7:45 pm

Half of you decrying Graham, FITS included, are the MAIN reason we have Half-@$$#$ like him (and Obama) in office.
You are gutless and have no political core…You blow w/ the wind, or how the media tells you to…and you HATE on anybody who knows better…

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BigT March 7, 2013 at 7:45 pm

Half of you decrying Graham, FITS included, are the MAIN reason we have Half-@$$#$ like him (and Obama) in office.
You are gutless and have no political core…You blow w/ the wind, or how the media tells you to…and you HATE on anybody who knows better…

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Waked' Up. March 7, 2013 at 8:09 pm

It’s no secret that the President is seeking to end the war over there, and bring it here. I used to think critics were the tinfoil hat folks, but it’s almost the theory of relativity….budgets don’t cut, and when theres no war in Iraq/Afghanistan, it’s coming here. Drones are just the mvst visible step. Bulletins, plans for prisons…man.

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Waked' Up. March 7, 2013 at 8:09 pm

It’s no secret that the President is seeking to end the war over there, and bring it here. I used to think critics were the tinfoil hat folks, but it’s almost the theory of relativity….budgets don’t cut, and when theres no war in Iraq/Afghanistan, it’s coming here. Drones are just the mvst visible step. Bulletins, plans for prisons…man.

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Lonnie Wadsworth March 7, 2013 at 8:23 pm

McCain spent too much time in a North Vietnamese prison camp to still have any sense left and I don’t know what Graham’s problem is, other than being a rhino Republican !

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Lonnie Wadsworth March 7, 2013 at 8:23 pm

McCain spent too much time in a North Vietnamese prison camp to still have any sense left and I don’t know what Graham’s problem is, other than being a rhino Republican !

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9" March 7, 2013 at 8:54 pm

when lindsey and mccain are alone,lindsey calls him ,’daddy’ and begs for a good spanking

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9" March 7, 2013 at 8:54 pm

when lindsey and mccain are alone,lindsey calls him ,’daddy’ and begs for a good spanking

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Chris Memminger March 7, 2013 at 9:20 pm

So the grown ups were actually negotiating and RP wasn’t even invited to the meeting. None of the 4700 drone strikes were on American soil.

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Chris Memminger March 7, 2013 at 9:20 pm

So the grown ups were actually negotiating and RP wasn’t even invited to the meeting. None of the 4700 drone strikes were on American soil.

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katlaurenscounty March 7, 2013 at 11:41 pm

test being blocked

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katlaurenscounty March 7, 2013 at 11:41 pm

test being blocked

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katlaurenscounty March 7, 2013 at 11:59 pm

Mccain, Lindsay, typical party pissants. Paul, principles first.

Parties own politicians. Special interests own parties and election process.Citizens who follow parties are like babies hypnotized by shiny things. While citizen were hypnotized over the past 10 years, politicians of both parties were busy building infrastructure of procedures to control us. Politicians increase their own power by repeatedly superseding regs/codes with new ones that increase authority. Politicians can’t/won’t limit abuse of other politicians. Irrational to put responsibility for protecting ourselves from gov abuse under regs/orders like the sample below, in the hands of politicians.Wonder if hypnotized citizens will feel getting screwed by politicians.

1) Obama exec order (2012) – IN PEACETIME – Gov can seize/commandeer/control
every basic need citizens have unalienable right to provide for ourselves –
food, water, transportation, medicine, energy – our commercial industry and private property, livestock,, etc. just by declaring ‘national interest’.http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

2) US ARMYReg, FM 3-39.4 new in 2010 under Obama (abuse of power helped by Bush. new reg supercedes 3-19.4) US Arm RESETTLEMENT AND INTERNMENT OF US CITIZENS ON US SOIL. See page 10-9. Asserts SECDEF has authority under Title 10 USC Section 331, Insurrection Codes, for ‘exception’ to Posse Comitatus (More help from Bush Exec order) and order US citizens to be ‘interned/relocated”, and controlled by “Civilian Affairs” (pg3-16). Ciizens didn’t authorize new military or law enforcement. So Politicians did it instead. Guess who Civilian Affairs is? Research Bill HR 748. FEMA Corps. http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf. Oh, and if we don’t enjoy the internment,Psyops (appendix K) will help ‘adjust’ our attitude.

3) Bush era reg (new in 2005, supercedes FM 19-15, 1985 reg) ARMY REG FM 3-19-15
-CONTROL OF CIVILIAN UNREST and “DISTURBANCES”, includes control on US SOIL!!!!!! https://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-19-15.pdf.

4) Bush transition (new in 2001 supercedes FM 19-40, 1976, and FM 19-60,
1986) Army reg to ‘relocate/detain/intern’ US citizens, and military personnel who won’t go along: FM 3-19-40).

For more reading pleasure, http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/Active_FM.html

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katlaurenscounty March 7, 2013 at 11:59 pm

Mccain, Lindsay, typical party pissants.

Parties own politicians. Special interests own parties and election process. While citizen were hypnotized over the past 10 years, politicians of both parties were busy building infrastructure of procedures to control us. Politicians increase their own power by repeatedly superseding regs/codes with new ones that increase authority. Politicians can’t/won’t limit abuse of other politicians. Irrational to put responsibility for protecting ourselves from gov abuse under regs/orders like the sample below, in the hands of politicians.

1) Obama exec order (2012) – IN PEACETIME – Gov can seize/commandeer/control
every basic need citizens have unalienable right to provide for ourselves –
food, water, transportation, medicine, energy – our commercial industry and private property, livestock,, etc. just by declaring ‘national interest’.http://www.whitehouse.gov/the-press-office/2012/03/16/executive-order-national-defense-resources-preparedness

2) US ARMYReg, FM 3-39.4 new in 2010 under Obama (abuse of power helped by Bush. new reg supercedes 3-19.4) US Arm RESETTLEMENT AND INTERNMENT OF US CITIZENS ON US SOIL. See page 10-9. Asserts SECDEF has authority under Title 10 USC Section 331, Insurrection Codes, for ‘exception’ to Posse Comitatus (More help from Bush Exec order) and order US citizens to be ‘interned/relocated”, and controlled by “Civilian Affairs” (pg3-16). Ciizens didn’t authorize new military or law enforcement. So Politicians did it instead. Guess who Civilian Affairs is? Research Bill HR 748. FEMA Corps. http://info.publicintelligence.net/USArmy-InternmentResettlement.pdf. Oh, and if we don’t enjoy the internment,Psyops (appendix K) will help ‘adjust’ our attitude.

3) Bush era reg (new in 2005, supercedes FM 19-15, 1985 reg) ARMY REG FM 3-19-15
-CONTROL OF CIVILIAN UNREST and “DISTURBANCES”, includes control on US SOIL!!!!!! https://www.fas.org/irp/doddir/army/fm3-19-15.pdf.

4) Bush transition (new in 2001 supercedes FM 19-40, 1976, and FM 19-60,
1986) Army reg to ‘relocate/detain/intern’ US citizens, and military personnel who won’t go along: FM 3-19-40).

For more reading pleasure, http://armypubs.army.mil/doctrine/Active_FM.html

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Cleveland Steamer March 8, 2013 at 2:30 am

I knew where to cum to chime in on this, was it mastur….uh urination that caused Rand to come up short of Strom. Rand paul (and Ron) pander to votes like most politicians. I wonder if Strom had a boy Friday under the podium in 1957 filerbusting Civil Rights. Guess who else is opposed to that. Rand toes the line pretty good on the libertarian theme, but he is a pube. Where does he stand on women’s rights, gay rights, and other things Christians don’t cater to? Is he OK with corporations selling script, paying Applachain white folk 1/4 the wage they should make, no regulations when there are obvious dangers to people. I could go on but it’s time to rub one out….,,,,=====

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Cleveland Steamer March 8, 2013 at 2:30 am

I knew where to cum to chime in on this, was it mastur….uh urination that caused Rand to come up short of Strom. Rand paul (and Ron) pander to votes like most politicians. I wonder if Strom had a boy Friday under the podium in 1957 filerbusting Civil Rights. Guess who else is opposed to that. Rand toes the line pretty good on the libertarian theme, but he is a pube. Where does he stand on women’s rights, gay rights, and other things Christians don’t cater to? Is he OK with corporations selling script, paying Applachain white folk 1/4 the wage they should make, no regulations when there are obvious dangers to people. I could go on but it’s time to rub one out….,,,,=====

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dm10ae March 8, 2013 at 3:55 am

Graham needs to go-his votes are more liberal than the democrats. He wants Social Security and Medicare revamping in exchange for $600 billion new taxes to allow Obama spend giving it away to “green” companies that declare bankruptcy soon thereafter. Graham likes this new CIA nominee – from what I’ve read this the nominee is a nutcase.

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dm10ae March 8, 2013 at 3:55 am

Graham needs to go-his votes are more liberal than the democrats. He wants Social Security and Medicare revamping in exchange for $600 billion new taxes to allow Obama spend giving it away to “green” companies that declare bankruptcy soon thereafter. Graham likes this new CIA nominee – from what I’ve read this the nominee is a nutcase.

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Jay Ellington March 8, 2013 at 10:21 am

Graham and McCain are both liberal sheep in extremely moderate wolf’s clothing.

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Jay Ellington March 8, 2013 at 10:21 am

Graham and McCain are both liberal sheep in extremely moderate wolf’s clothing.

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 12:42 pm

Who is he calling an impressionable libertarian kid? I’m 59 and been fighting collectivism for 37 years! I hope someone will make a Youtube of these two turncoats and it go viral. I pray both are defeated in their primaries next time with non-establishment constitutionalists! taking their places. I will not hide behind a username:
https://www.facebook.com/AmericanistGary

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Nalejbank March 8, 2013 at 12:42 pm

Who is he calling an impressionable libertarian kid? I’m 59 and been fighting collectivism for 37 years! I hope someone will make a Youtube of these two turncoats and it go viral. I pray both are defeated in their primaries next time with non-establishment constitutionalists! taking their places. I will not hide behind a username:
https://www.facebook.com/AmericanistGary

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? March 8, 2013 at 12:48 pm

Neocon wonder twin powers ACTIVATE!

Form of:

A DOUCHE NOZZLE!

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? March 8, 2013 at 12:48 pm

Neocon wonder twin powers ACTIVATE!

Form of:

A DOUCHE NOZZLE!

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