CANDIDATE SAYS GRAHAM “TRYING TO RUN OUT THE CLOCK” ON ELECTION
Independent U.S. Senate candidate Thomas Ravenel challenged incumbent “Republican” Lindsey Graham, Democrat Brad Hutto and Libertarian Victor Kocher to a busy debate schedule between now and their November 4 election. He also pointedly called out Graham for refusing to defend his controversial left-of-center positions in the public arena as he seeks reelection.
Graham did not debate his 2014 GOP primary opponents. He has also limited his South Carolina appearances to hand-picked crowds.
According to Ravenel, “all (Graham) wants to do is run out the clock on this election,” adding that “if Lindsey Graham has time to meet with Barack Obama nineteen times – if he has time for all the special interests and all the talking heads in Washington, D.C. – then he should have time for the people he’s supposed to be representing as well.”
“All four of us owe the people of this state a serious conversation so they can decide for themselves who would best represent them,” Ravenel said in issuing his challenge. “The next one hundred days provide us with a real opportunity to have that discussion – which is why I think we should have no fewer than ten different televised debates all across South Carolina so that people in every corner of the state can be part of the conversation.”
Ravenel said each candidate should agree to one televised debate apiece in Anderson, Beaufort, Charleston, Columbia, Florence, Greenville, Myrtle Beach, North Augusta, Rock Hill, Spartanburg and Sumter.
The Lowcountry businessman and star of Bravo TV’s reality show Southern Charm said each debate should include “a moderator to keep the show rolling,” but that “the people should do the vast majority of the questioning.”
“I know a lot of people have questions about me and about my candidacy – and they deserve the chance to ask me those questions point blank,” Ravenel added. “I also know plenty of South Carolinians have questions about Lindsey Graham and his terrible record when it comes to safeguarding our tax dollars, our liberties and our friends and loved ones serving in the military. He needs to answer those questions point blank as well.”
Graham’s campaign did not respond to our request for comment. Hutto’s campaign was not immediately available for comment, but one Democratic operative said his campaign would “welcome” a schedule of multiple debates.
Ravenel’s inclusion of the Libertarian Party candidate – who is polling at roughly four percent – struck some politicos as odd.
“Ten town hall debates all over the state is a great idea but the Libertarian being up there was the part I didn’t get,” one veteran GOP consultant told FITS. “Why would (Ravenel) put a guy on stage who takes votes away from him?”
Ravenel is expected to draw from social libertarians, fiscal conservatives and Republicans who are upset with Graham’s numerous ideological betrayals.
When pigs fly. To my knowledge no one has ever accused Graham of being a fool.
Graham DID DEBATE his GOP primary opponents at SCETV. He wiped the floor with them.
Oooooh, those facts are pesky little critters! TR (and Will, at times) can get a little fact-challenged here and there…
T-Rav has to do things like challenge to get his name out there because everybody who knows him realizes he’s nothing more than a spoiled rich kid who thinks he deserves something because of his last name.
Graham likely isn’t even going to respond to these challenges, it’s like Mike Tyson responding to the junior high school bully’s challenge to a fight. You brush him off and tell him to go the fuck home.
Who wouldn’t love a debate between a coke lover and a cock lover though?
Hell, I’d even pay money to see Tyson beat up a JHS bully.
You are correct, sir! (channeled via the ghost of Ed McMahon)
If LG even entertained for an instant the notion of hopping up on a stage with these clowns, political consultants who don’t even know exactly where SC is would find their way here and slap his face…
Maybe T-Rav can get some young airhead girl, like Dennis girl, to moderate. I guess he will coke up before the debate and with the air head and the powder on his nose he should be able to handle the debate then!
Same title but article written without the rose colored glasses of Will’s bromance:
Thomas Ravenel Challenges Lindsey Graham, Opponents To Multiple Debates
Pipe dreaming hopefulGiant longshot independent U.S. Senate candidate Thomas Ravenel challenged incumbent “Republican” Lindsey Graham, Democrat Brad Hutto and Libertarian Victor Kocher to a busy debate schedule between now and their November 4 election. He also pointedly called out Graham for refusing to defend his controversial left-of-center positions in the public arena as he seeks reelection. Ravenel, well known for his federal drug dealing conviction, is clearly looking for a way to get his name out in a positive light without spending any of his money (since no one else is giving him any).
Minor edit, “I know Sic Willie will be dreaming up some bullshit to feed me through a hidden ear phone that I can fling…..”
Excellent (and probably accurate) edit!
Longshot prospective independent U.S. Senate candidate Thomas Ravenel
He isn’t even a candidate yet. His petition signatures have not even been verified yet. It took a month to verify Ervin’s.
Very good point – I haven’t seen any evidence the T-Rav will actually be on the ballot just yet (though I don’t doubt that there are at least 10,000 names on his petition)
“Why would (Ravenel) put a guy on stage who takes votes away from him?”
Maybe the man really does think the people of this state do want to hear from the choices available.
To answer Clarendonian, let me be the first then, Graham is a fool. He thinks siding with 0bama will get him better perks or prestige or whatever he thinks he will get but 0bama will discard him like a used condom like the Democrats discarded Cindy Sheehan and Sandra Fluke when it suits him to do such.
Debating a convicted felon…go for it FITS.
‘“Ten town hall debates all over the state is a great idea but the Libertarian being up there was the part I didn’t get,” one veteran GOP consultant told FITS. “Why would (Ravenel) put a guy on stage who takes votes away from him?”’
Ravenel probably figures that the Libertarian would take more votes from Graham than him.
I challenge them to the Hunger Games with nothing but whiskey, PCP and tridents until there’s one survivor. Then, the survivor has to take on a puma, grizzly bear and Rick Flair. If he/she survives, give him/her the job.
McMaster’s brother said he’s in if you change the name to the “Whiskey Dick Games” and serve him a meal.
The final challenge — read GrandTango’s posts for the previous 12 months, and present an oral report on their substance and meaning.
Congress goes on a five week vacation ostensibly to campaign for November. Have we ever had election debates in August? Tommy included the Libertarian for credibility to get Graham to attend. Quinn will not authorize any debate that is rigged for his client is my take. Expect Joe Wilson to avoid Phil Black as well. In fact, federal incumbents have a bad habit of avoiding debates during election years…ever notice?
Hutto and Graham and Ravenel…..
There is only one thing missing…..
“Thomas Ravenel challenged incumbent “Republican” Lindsey Graham, Democrat Brad Hutto and Libertarian Victor Kocher.”
The one who isn’t on the ballot yet, challenged the ones who are.
A convicted felon who served his time had paid his debts, therefore the label is meaningless.
Most federal drug laws are illegal, unconstitutional anyway, a direct, literal violation of the 10th Amendment.
Lindsey Graham betrays his country daily on behalf of Israel for Jewish money.
He would sell out his mother for Jewish money.
He is an unconvicted traitor and a scumbag, the epitome of how low the once proud Southern white man has fallen.
You don’t have enough soap and water to scrub felon off T-Rav. Its there forever. All these illegal, unconstitutional drug laws, how far you think you will get with that? I guess you are just so learned. Jewish money. What does it look like? Is it different from Arab money?
What the fuck are you smoking? Just because he did his time doesn’t mean he isn’t still a convicted drug dealer. He is just known as an ex con now, on top of a convicted drug dealer. Word it how you want to, but its obvious you want to buy his shit. Therefore your post is meaningless dumbass
I would rather be a convicted drug dealer, than a corrupt puppet of the Israeli lobby, willing to spend American blood and treasure on Israeli-inspired wars, claiming to represent his own state.
There is more honor in being a drug dealer than being a political prostitute beholden to foreign interests. One can be an honest drug dealer, providing a product that is in demand by other adults, but a corrupt political swine is a matter of dishonor. Nobody forces anyone to buy anything from a drug dealer. What is the difference between a drug dealer and your corner liqoeur dealer or cigarette dealer? I am sure if you stop snorting whatever you are snorting, Snort, you can figure that out.
There is no snake lower than than this swine. His sidekick, McCain, can at least say that he suffered brain damage in North Vietnam.
“What is the difference between a drug dealer and your corner liqoeur dealer or cigarette dealer?”
Are you actually asking that to be serious? Legality! You cant be that stupid and allowed to vote. You are a prime example of natural selection, Too bad for you your coke dealing golden boy cant vote for himself.
You come up with the answer: legality! What a brain you are. That stuff you snort must be good
How come the rest of us did not think of that?
Let us see: The legality of the revolt against English rule, hmm, hmm, should we say that the country was founded by felons under existing law?
In fact, someone said at the time: “gentlemen, we must stand together or we shall hang separately”.
Drug dealing is not a real crime, ignoramus, as along as it is not done to minors.
It is what is called ” malum prohibitum”, a crime created out of thin air by the ones in power at the moment.
Such crimes are artificial, because there are no victims. The adults who buy his stuff have every right to victimize themselves. They own their own bodies.
If they pass it on to minors, they commit a real crime.
Real crimes, natural crimes are called “malum in se”.
You need to pull your head out of your cow’s ass and go to school.
Posts like yours , unlikely to have been written by a Jew, is what convinced me that the ignorance and short -sightedness of the Southern white population marks them for extinction.
But the same thing can be said of the white population as a whole, unfortunately.
They are cannonfodder, they are cattle in the hands of the Jews. Born to serve the Jews, as a rabbi in Israel noted last year.
Wow a racist asshole who thinks selling drugs is legal. How proud the very few people who love you must be. Let me guess, member of the local chapter of the Klan supported by drug money? What a low life you are. You asked a simple question. It was answered (yes it was an obvious answer but still you didn’t seem to know it so who lacks the brain of the two?) then you rant all off subject like Mel Gibson on a coke fueled bender. Its pretty obvious why you want Ranenel. Gotta get your score. feed those veins!!!
For the few moments that your head is out of your cow’s rear end, I must enlighten you that I know nothing about Ravenel, other than he is challenging the Swine In Chief on his own turf.
The fact that he was a coke dealer is completely irrelevant to an educated person. I do not care or know who he is, but I know who the Swine-in-Chief is.
Graham wastes no time attacking real Americans like like Rand Paul and his father, every time AIPAC or some other Jewish organization or donor calls and is willing to sacrifice American boys lives for Israel, not to mention taxpayer’s money.
Textbook definition of a traitor to his country.
This shabbas goy pig is symptomatic of the deadly disease that is killing America.
“The fact that he was a coke dealer is completely irrelevant to an educated person” What??? No educated person would ever vote in a convicted coke dealer and you know it. The fact you claim to know nothing about him also means you nothing anyway. Now take your head out of the cows ass man.
I grew up on the beaches of San Diego, where I still live, not in the backwoods, cow pastures and barns of the Carolinas.
I also went to college and am well educated.
Primitive backwoods ignorance such as yours was rare here in Southern California, but now with the Mexican and other Turd World invasion, (which the Swine-in-Chief leaves the door open for, by the way, just like his Neo-con Jewish handlers want him to)
we are turning into a part of the Turd World.
So, lucky you, Carolina style backwoods ignorance starts looking good compared to this new Mexico that is growing up around here.
You claim to be educated yet you keep saying dealing drugs is not illegal. No one with an education would actually say something that stupid. That’s the kind of like saying its okay to murder someone as long as its not brutal, or rape is OK if the girl doesn’t know you did it or something. As in if she doesn’t know it might not have happened. You say its (dealing drugs) a victimless crime only because you are too stupid to see who the victims actually are. You also keep changing the point, showing that you really have none to begin with other than to make racist remarks. If you don’t like here in South Carolina move the fuck back to San Diego. Hell there are a lot more drugs there than here you should be happier there.
Your backwoods ignorance never diminishes, does it?
Where did I ever say that dealing drugs is not Illegal?
At the state level it is illegal and constitutionally so.
It is a bad law, but on the books.
I said that it is NOT a real crime, like rape, theft or murder or fraud. You are too thick to understand subtle, but important differences.
I also said that federal drug laws which do not involve interstate commerce are illegal and unconstitutional.
Again, that is too far above the barn for you.
The United States did very well for over a hundred years with no drug laws, complete personal freedom.
The War on Drugs is really a war on people’s personal freedoms. It is a criminally insane policy, like Prohibition was.
Racist remarks? Thank you for the compliment.
I have always been racist in the proper sense.
Also, I live in San Diego, I would never move to South Carolina. You need to pull your head out of the cow’s behind and learn to pay attention to what you read.
So let me get this right. You claim drug dealing is not an actual crime A. there are no victims other than the person buying it, and B. because you feel it violates the constitution, which has never once held up as a defense mind you so that point is invalid, and by saying that you really do say it must not be illegal, and you cant see that is what your dumbass is saying. 2nd you claim to live in San Diego which couldn’t be further away from South Carolina yet you have nothing better to do than comment on a South Carolina Political site about a South Carolina race you can not even vote for.
Wow. What little a life you must have. Thanks you for stopping me from wasting any more time on someone as pathetic as yourself. I will leave you now, as you are worth less than the dog shit my neighbor stepped in this morning. Go try to get your fix somewhere coke head There are plenty of dealers in San Diego that might try to agree with your thoughts on the constitution. Im sure while you are all jacked up you can talk about it in depth for hours, and you might stay ore on topic than you have here. Good bye and thanks for the laughs.
As a US Senator, the Swine-in-Chief is a national figure, so I am well within my bounds to keep tabs on this national disgrace on whatever forum I can.
Ann Coulter was right: the Swine is a superbly talented politician, without any morals or backbone.
Country bumpkins like yourself, who can barely find their way out of the barn or a brown paper bag, will vote for his type of pig.
I did not want to debate a backwoods country bumpkin from South Carolina, the first state to secede in 1861, who is so dumb and brainwashed and ignorant that he actually called me a “racist” , as if that was somehow a bad thing.
What an imbecile! I would have preferred a real Southern Klansman to this pathetic creature.
Keep this in mind moron: wherever there is a mention of the Swine or his sidekick, McCain, I will be there enlightening the folks.
Now go back to the barn.
I think Big T/GrandTango has a clone in California!
yep, and both are idiots!
Damn Jews again!
You are right. As always, the Jews find a political swine for sale.
Now go to your synagogue and bend over for your Rabbi.
There’s always some seriouso out to ruin a funny quip, never fails.
If it would not have the ulterior motive of disputing the assertion, it would be funny, indeed.
There is a poster who trolls Comment sections and wherever he finds any criticism of Israel or Jews, he posts: “the Joos, the Joos”
It would be funny if it were not part of the organized Hasbara Internet brigade of Israel.
To deny that Graham is a whore of the Jewish Lobby would be like denying that water is wet.
This swine is so shameless that he even said that the UN is “anti-Semitic” for calling Israeli actions in Gaza close to war crimes, which they are.
And Southern whites vote for this pig. Pure ignorance.
I have never, ever heard any sympathy towards the South expressed by the Jews. To the contrary, they have been at the forefront of undermining not only the South, but white America for the last 100 years.
Another day another POS Ravenel story. “Someone” at Fits needed their daily 8 ball I guess. Coke whores are like that. Give em just one taste and they will; do what ever you want never will leave.
Underfunded long shot candidate challenges well financed incumbent to a series of debates, because the people deserve to know where the candidates stand on the issues. Sheesh, does that EVER work? Sic: what’s your political consultant advice to the incumbent in this scenario?
— a duel at sunrise
Sorry, TRav, the people of this state don’t need a travelling dog and pony show to know that you’re not their man.
The story of Captain t-Bone-Rav and Bambi:
Captain t-Bone-Rav takes command of the Good Ship Teabugger.
As he steps up, he shouts, “I have not yet begun to fight…”
…against U.S.S. Lindsey Graham!”
His childishly, cute, petite 20 year-old first mate, Bambi,
“Captain t-Bone, the good ship U.S.S. Lindsey Graham is on the horizon
coming for battle!”
“Great,” replies t-Bone, “BRING ME MY RED SHIRT!”
“Why a RED SHIRT?,” asked childishly, cute, petite 20 year
“Because, if I am wounded my blood will not show,” responded t-Bone. “And,
my misguided Tea-Buggers will not realize I am a total looser.”
Childishly, cute, petite 20 year old first mate Bambi thought for
a moment, and then said…
“…the U.S.S. Lindsey Graham has brazillions of dollars and brazillions
of voter support.”
Nervously, Captain t-Bone-Rav replied…
“…BRING ME MY BROWN PANTS!”
Hmm…….hope Mr. Folks is up for 17 debates instead of 11…?
I submit that the England v India Cricket Test Matches Tour is being played. Why? Because it’s really happening. And, unless the pitch is bombed, it WILL happen again, in the future.