Fire-breathing Tea Party leader Ted Cruz killed two birds with one stone this weekend – arguing for the abolition of the hated Internal Revenue Service (IRS) and the placement of its 110,000 agents along the U.S.-Mexican border.
“The simplest road to tax reform is to abolish the IRS and move to simple flat tax,” Cruz told a crowd of 3,500 at the Western Conservative Summit in Denver, Colorado.
As for the agency’s employees, the Texas Senator said “we can always put them on our southern border.”
“Seeing so many IRS agents would scare off anyone who wanted to come to America,” Cruz said. “That’s slightly tongue-in-cheek, but think about it for a second: You travel thousands of miles, you cross over and see 110,000 IRS agents? You’d turn around and go home!”
We agree with Cruz on his first point … but not his second.
Don’t get us wrong: We’re all for expanded border security, but those assets should be dispatched in the wake of a dramatic reduction/ reconfiguration of America’s military presence overseas. IRS employees? They can deal with the “New Normal” the same way the rest of us have been for the past six years.
Unfortunately Cruz’s commitment to “limited government” doesn’t extend to reining in our taxpayer-subsidized global police state. He’s a “neoconservative,” a politician who believes America should intervene in the affairs of foreign nations – subsidizing an unnecessary military presence that more often than not makes our homeland less safe.
There’s a lot to like about Cruz – and this website has sung his praises in the past.
But until he starts following the foreign policy lead of Ron Paul – not John McCain and Lindsey Graham – we cannot support his national ambitions.
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A flat tax based on what? The problem isn’t determining the tax, the problem is determining the income on which to tax. First you have to define income (hint- not everyone gets a W-2). It isn’t that easy. Of course simple minds like Ted Cruz don’t know any better.
Stop with the facts!!
…some people’s children!
You libs hate it when anyone threatens your free stuff. Get a job and you’ll like the alternatives to income tax.
I have a job. Thanks for your concern, though!
Also, I’d rather not be given an “alternative” that simply increases the tax burden on the lower and middle classes. I think most hard-working Americans would appreciate that.
SmirCunt has a job. That is why he is able to post on FITS 24/7.
Rick Perry is sending National Guard to border in Texas. Next President.
Smirks is a semi-Socialist, but in fairness to him, so are 95% of the country’s population to some degree, Republicans included of course.
The debate isn’t over Socialism, as we have socialized roads, schools, Social Security, etc., the debate is over HOW MUCH Socialism we should have.
Is that the extent of your analytical powers?
I have a job. I pay a lot of income taxes. But I’m not greedy like a lot of you. I understand that money flows upward from the poor to the rich. The trickle down theory only works for that last couple drops of urine.
Wrong. 92 million lib/dem adults refuse to work and pay income taxes. It hurts the poor children and bankrupts Medicaid.
Source? Oh right. Your ass.
Let me try to simplify this for your simple mind. If the 92 million number is correct (which I have serious doubts)– How much do they have in savings? ZERO. What do they do with any money they get from whatever source ? I know you believe they spend it on “drugs”, but it gets spent at the grocery store, utility companies, landlords, etc. This money makes Main Street go in small towns. Who owns the grocery stores, utility companies and the properties? My guess is the top 5%. Medicaid is a different story in that those monies go to doctors, hospitals, etc. (Granted it isn’t much– but it does offset some of the costs incurred by doctors, hospitals, etc.) So, yes the poor get some benefit from subsidies, but the profits rise to top.
Don’t let the facts muddy the issue!
Which is why you don’t tax income, you tax spending.
And there you are, VAT. A VAT tax taxes every dollar spent including money made illegally. It is fair across the board and if bleeding hearted liberals insist you could even add some progressivity to it in the form of a VAT refund based on income.
It is not fair across the board, because it still is based largely consumer goods. As long as the tax is based on taxing the purchase of consumer goods the middle class pays a higher percentage of their income and wealth in taxes than do the wealthy. If you want a consumption tax that is fair it must include the purchase of stocks, bonds, investments, and real estate.
What spending would you tax?
Apparently not his.Some one else’s.
Fine, let’s go to a VAT.
Dems won’t let you tax their drugs or abortions. You got a problem.
We have a bigger problem than that, the ability to control the populace through manipulating tax policy is so intoxicating that no same politician would go through the abuse they’d get for even suggesting the idea. It will require and actual rebellion to fix our tax policy.
People like you are the tax on sanity.
A flat tax works if you remove Obama voters and those that signed Tom Ervin’s and T-Rav’s petitions from the welfare rolls and make them work.
Flat tax based on what?
A Flat Tax means one tax, that is all that it means, as in no brackets… no ranges depending on how much you make. Obviously he is talking about income tax though we would do much better with a national sales tax, so if you spend more money you pay more money… stop taxing people on their earned income that is just disgusting especially at the rates of Mid evil surfs.
He’s RIGHT!!!…but the liberals will never let it happen. If we can 60-plus in the US Senate, may be.
Anyway: Global Alarmists and WLTX predicting Mass Flooding for SC coast: Read: http://scdigest.blogspot.com/2014/07/sc-coast-in-danger-of-mass-flooding.html
So, Tango’s talking about the weather…funny, now can I get a job at WLTX too?
Weather? The weather is REAL Dumb@$$..Man made Global Warming is a myth.
She has to try something, nobody gives a fuck what else she has to say.
Shoving political agendas down the throats of the American people is all they are good at in DC.
Like Obamacare?
YEP!Democrats Republicans WORTHLESS!
Only you – and your band of Liberal-Tarians -have value, right?
Everybody else but you, RonPaul, FITS and T-Rav are worthless… Elitists indeed…
Your whole political establishment is corrupt and bankrupt of any new ideas.Fear and hate is all they peddle.You consume and digest the bread they give you.FULL YET!
I am not a conservative or a liberal.I AM AN AMERICAN!
But you are a F*#king Dumb@$$…
You idiots are too clever by half. I’ve seen a couple rounds of your – Ross Perot – brand. You’re nothing special, and you’re not new. You think you’re above it all.
But you’re really just too stupid to figure out any truth. You are worthless as $#!* as a voter. But you think you’re brilliant. We’ll end up w/ more Obama-like Bull-S#!* because Dolts like you…and they just LTAO, once they’ve screwed us all, by using you…
Well the one thing I have learned is that conservatives and liberals pretty much have the same rant.Everyone else is “stupid” or “worthless”.Your precious political establishment has gotten us to this point.What makes you think they are the ones to fix it? One party rule seems to be your solution?
I would never describe a 9th grade drop out with a GED as brilliant! What else don’t you know about me? hehe
Tea party,Ross Perot are both failures.We need a real grass roots political party that competes at first locally.This two party system we are shackled with is not enshrined in the constitution.Lets get rid of it.
Why not make Congress volunteer at a DC soup kitchen when they’re not at the office? Why not let them take the janitor’s job in rotation? Why don’t they pay for their own health care? Why don’t we install barracks outside congress for them to live in, and make them eat all their meals at the cafeteria? Why don’t we have them follow a strict schedule with harsh penalties for not being on time? Why don’t we give them uniforms like the military has, give them just enough to cover room and board for their family on the economy, and revoke their salaries?
They work for us! They don’t deserve more than minimum wage for what they do for us.
They work
lol…
They spend most of their time grovelling for money to perpetuate their stay in office.
They spend most of their time on social media stirring up their base so they can keep their cushy gubmint job, while all the time railing against it. WooHoo. Dumbasses everywhere.
If he was as clever as the GOPers say he is, why doesn’t he do something about that pointy nose, acne scars, and that bland, half-hearted “oh poor me” smile and gawd-awful haircut without a personality?
Yeah, maybe if he looked like Obama, you’d suck him off, like you do Obama. Right, Dumb@$$…
suck him off
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you just come here to come here, don’t you?
*cum
…if he looked like Obama’s son, you’d suck him off.
Gotta love T’s unprovoked, homoerotic retorts. Sounds like a “pray the gay away” camp didn’t do a thorough enough job on the poor soul.
Why do you imply Gay is derogatory? I thought you were an open-minded liberal, and er’body’s equal…yet you express yourself like an anti-Gay Bigot…
Coming from Emily, from a woman who has a mouth like a $2.00 whore.
I notice liberals on here like to make fun of the way people look that disagree with them.
You would think with leaders in their own party with ears bigger than ‘dumbo’ and a wife that says his children won’t get close to him cause he smells so bad in the morning and the same wife who looks like a product of Godzilla fucking a hippo and god awful ugly kids , that they wouldn’t do that.
So you thought that was fun, did you?
He isn’t clever, he’s mentally ill. Conservatism is shown to be a mental illness.
How did I miss you?
Evidently you didn’t. Bless your gosnell heart.
The first thing Communist hardliners did in Russia to suppress dissent was declare their ideological opposition insane and imprison them in institutional/state run asylums.
Is that why conservatives want to dismantle our mental health care system and just use the prisons to house the mentally ill? More profit for conservatives all the way around, eh?
Give me a cup of what that guy is drinking!
We need the Fair Tax at about 23% across the board. Everyone would pay the same and everyone would PAY. All the under-the-table monies would get caught in the sales area and would at least get taxed somewhere. I can understand the politicians being against this because they would lose their sacred cows but the rest of US would be much better off.
Sounds great in theory. However, it isn’t practical. You would cause a massive tax increase on the lower 90% of the population and on the top 1% (and you know that will never fly).
What a maroon.
Where is that from again?
Bugs Bunny
Thats right.Thanks.
Why aren’t the illegals coming over the International Bridge? Machine Gun Fire from the Cartels into the US?
http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/07/21/it-is-a-horrifying-place-to-be-glenn-reflects-on-his-visit-to-the-rio-grande-river-with-louie-gohmert/
Well of course the simplest road is a flat tax. What other system better serves the moneyed interests to which the Republicans kowtow? I guarantee if Cruz was elected president tomorrow (through some malign juxtaposition of time and space) absolutely nothing would happen with the IRS. This is one of those issues Republicans use to pander to the rightist lunatic fringe within their party and about which they would or could do nothing in office. Wake up!
Once again– flat tax based on what? How do determine income Einstein? This issue is deductions.
Spending, you buy a piece of bubble gum, you pay a 10% tax, you buy a Lear jet you pay a 10% tax.
Good in theory, but won’t work in reality. That would be a massive tax increase for 90% of the population. If people voted based on their real financial situation– there wouldn’t be a Republican elected in the country.
Republicans always want to base it on consumer goods, because that shifts the tax from the wealthy to the middle class. The middle class pays more the wealthy less. The only fair tax will tax all expenditures, including those for investments, stocks, bonds, and real estate. We could probably even go well below 10% if we did that. But no Republican would ever suggest that because it does not fulfill their goal of cutting the tax of the wealthy donors and paying for the cut by increasing the tax on the middle class and cutting middle class benefits.
It has been a trend over the past 30 years to shift the tax burden from the so-called investor class and on to wage or salary earners. Clinton and G.W. Bush each pushed the effort forward. People with W-2 income (wages and salaries) pay income tax rates along with the payroll taxes.(Social Security and Medicare). Individuals receiving dividends, capital gains and carried interest are taxed at much lower rates and do not pay the payroll taxes. That great Democrat and the workingman’s friend, Bill Clinton, signed the Taxpayer Relief Act of 1997 which cut long-term capital gains from 28% to 20% and reduced the 15% bracket to 10%. It is good to be rich in America. The system is rigged to favor you.
Did you read my post? The term is facetiousness.
I stand corrected. Not accustomed to anyone with real sense on this site.
cant this idiot google? can anyone in texas google? the irs does not employ 110,000 people. south carolina reps and senators might be stick-stupid losers, but at least they’re low key about it.
Hard to decide which Stephen King novel Ted Cruz escaped from. Options are limitless.
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What I don’t understand, is how is that a communist – Canadian-born Cuban whose wife works as an executive for one of the too-big-big-to-fail bail out financial services companies gets to set immigration and tax policy. That’s sort of like letting dracula into the blood bank.
I always thought Cruz was an educated idiot, this speech confirms it again. The tax code is more complex to “fix” it with a flat tax scheme. Really, a stupid pronouncement. How do you tax hedge funds? Capital gains? Import/export revenue? Off shore multinationals? Property? I think he and Palin are shrills. Palin needs voice lessons. Hat tip to Harvard’s ability to graduate morons. Without voice lessons, Palin will not be viable. Can you imagine a State of the Union with her voice?
Because forensic accountants need to be given rifles and walk a post. What a dumb douche.
Ted, put your money where your mouth is: Go to the Border!