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There’s Hope For America Yet!

WELL … SORT OF … A whopping 76 percent of American voters think U.S. President Barack Obama’s Internal Revenue Service (IRS) deliberately destroyed the emails of Lois Lerner, the ex-bureaucrat at the heart of the agency’s efforts to discriminate against limited government groups. That’s according to a Fox News poll released this…

WELL … SORT OF …

A whopping 76 percent of American voters think U.S. President Barack Obama’s Internal Revenue Service (IRS) deliberately destroyed the emails of Lois Lerner, the ex-bureaucrat at the heart of the agency’s efforts to discriminate against limited government groups.

That’s according to a Fox News poll released this week …

The survey – conducted from June 21-23 – found that vast majorities of “Republicans” (90 percent), independents (74 percent) and Democrats (63 percent) aren’t buying the Obama administration’s story that Lerner’s emails were accidentally destroyed during a hard drive crash.

In fact only twelve percent of voters subscribe to that fiction … while another 12 percent aren’t sure.

Those are pretty compelling numbers, people.  And the best evidence yet that Obama has a major problem on his hands as it relates to this scandal.

Lerner infamously pleaded the Fifth Amendment last year in response to questions about her role in the scandal.  Meanwhile Obama said in a February interview with Fox News that there was “not even a smidgen of corruption” related to the IRS scandal.

Really?

The IRS scandal was all the rage earlier this year, but since then “Republicans” have been far too busy targeting Tea Party candidates for defeat, ramping up funding for domestic spying and warmongering in the Middle East to pay it much mind.

Limited government groups (we’re bringing this story full circle, aren’t we?) are encouraging them to get their heads in the game, though.

Quickly …

“The only visible follow up by House committees on the missing Lerner emails — so far — has been to hold more hearings and to subpoena Lerner’s hard drive,” writes Robert Romano of Americans for Limited Government (ALG). “No new subpoenas have been issued for the Lerner emails that might be on other federal email servers.”

“Where’s the urgency?” Romano asks.

That’s a damn good question …

Romano adds that “time is of the essence, particularly if House members believe evidence is being destroyed.”

He’s right …

Clearly the Obama’s Justice Department isn’t going to take any action … so it’s up to congressional leaders to get off the snide.  In fact we’re amazed former prosecutor Trey Gowdy – the South Carolina Republican who has been so effective in going after this agency – isn’t taking more of a leadership role here.

“Of all the scandals hanging over the Obama administration, its use of the IRS to silence political opposition in advance of the 2012 election – and the subsequent coverup of the scandal – is by far the most egregious,” we wrote earlier this year. “That’s why Obama is doing his best to sweep it under the rug.”

Obama’s problem?  The public isn’t buying it …

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91 comments

Mike at the Beach June 24, 2014 at 6:42 pm

Ol’ Trey is gonna be a damn star by the time all is said and done with this IRS nitwittery…

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euwe max June 24, 2014 at 7:54 pm

is that a good thing?

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Mike at the Beach June 24, 2014 at 10:17 pm

Don’t know. Not necessarily a bad thing. Even the fringiest on the left are starting to see the IRS thing for what it is…

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euwe max June 24, 2014 at 11:27 pm

Beats there a heart so cold, that would not want proof that it was an accident? This is very abu Ghraiby.

https://disqus.com/home/discussion/fitsnews/the_latest_on_those_irs_emails#comment-1452446179

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Mike at the Beach June 25, 2014 at 12:12 am

Your faith in the nobility of the BHO crew is touching. The weird timing, Lerner’s pleading the Fifth, and the testimony this week is shaking even a few of my heartfelt lib friends. It’s painful to watch…

euwe max June 25, 2014 at 12:14 am

Where in that post did I show any faith in that lot?

You did follow my link, did you not? I’m a liberal, not an idiot.

Mike at the Beach June 25, 2014 at 12:22 am

Sorry, just my natural interpretation of your comparison of what appears to be a very run of the mill political cover-up to the abu Ghraib issue. What’s next, “Bush is a murdering war criminal?!”

I keed, I keed…

euwe max June 25, 2014 at 12:32 am

I actually think there are parallels – remember Rumsfeld telling us to “brace for pictures?” before the cd was leaked – not that losing emails is equal to torture, but that it’s raw meat for the pundits, and everyone knows it.

Obama has been fucking up for some time now… pot, gays, trying to “compromise” with a party sworn to deny him legislation, drones, dragging ass getting out of Afghanistan, arming Syrian rebels, Treating the problem in Iraq like a problem with an established state…

this IRS thing isn’t his doing, but the idiots involved don’t know anything about admitting incompetence – they should learn from the Fukushima people. Admit it in stages that people can get their head around.

Scooter June 24, 2014 at 8:28 pm

That boy knows how to fight. No holds barred.

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Government is hopeless June 24, 2014 at 6:42 pm

The irony of showing an incandescent bulb, just outlawed by our government, in a proclamation of there being “hope” is a bit much.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 24, 2014 at 9:44 pm

Incandescent bulbs vs LED bulbs are no match. They consume vast amounts more electricity…but we wouldn’t want to get in the way of ‘Murican freedom to choose now would we?

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Government is hopeless June 24, 2014 at 9:58 pm

“but we wouldn’t want to get in the way of ‘Murican freedom to choose now would we?”

Certainly that’s not the case with you. You love forcing people to do what’s best for them(in your mind).

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 24, 2014 at 10:16 pm

I’ve learned long ago that South Carolinians are particularly fond of cutting off their noses to spite their faces.
We’re happy to die and injure ourselves in the name of freedom (and higher private insurance premiums and medical bills I might add) as well as scorch and rape the earth we walk on in our little patch (to benefit out of state waste companies I might add).

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Government is hopeless June 24, 2014 at 10:24 pm

So there ya go, you just wrote a whole paragraph to confirm what I wrote in 2 sentences.

Mike at the Beach June 24, 2014 at 10:17 pm

Just curious- do you “choose” to operate your air conditioning during the day while you’re at work? Do you bicycle to that work place? Use solar cells to supplement your residential power supply? Avoid air travel, one of the nastiest of the “greenhouse gas violators?” Buy only only local produce to cut down on shipping waste? Maybe your government should “choose” to legislate all of this for you- it’s precisely the same logic. I fully understand that you mock our “freedom to choose” (and by extension, free markets), but even a casual reading of the Constitution by an uneducated person should reveal that the authors of that document took it pretty seriously.

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Government is hopeless June 24, 2014 at 10:25 pm

Mike, you just spanked his ass intellectually. Kudos to you.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 24, 2014 at 10:46 pm

Read my post above…if you can read…

Enjoy the smack down.

Government is hopeless June 25, 2014 at 12:19 am

Why would I do that? I think I’d read the Unibomber’s manifesto before reading your version of “My pet goat”.

TL; DR, etc.

Learn about brevity if you want people to read your stuff.

Mike at the Beach June 24, 2014 at 11:07 pm

You sweet, naive soul, you! You obviously aren’t familiar with trolls like that guy. They are (conveniently) not bound by logic, fact, or the accepted rules of rational discourse. You’ll see, just wait a few minutes…

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 24, 2014 at 11:36 pm

Takes one to know one mate.

Mike at the Beach June 25, 2014 at 12:23 am

Now THAT’s the intellectual stuff on which we’ve all been waiting! Good night, and enjoy your angry, name-calling rants. I’m out…

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 25, 2014 at 9:45 am

TBG’s Internet Rule # 3 would have saved you mucho typing, Amigo.

Mike at the Beach June 25, 2014 at 12:02 pm

TBG is correct, as usual, but in my defense I will say only two brief things:

1. Once in a while you run across people who just need to get whacked, TBG Rule #3 notwithstanding.

2. Besides, if TBG Rule #3 was the *only* rule I ever violated that caused me a little grief, I would be in great shape. I admittedly stepped across the line, but it only cost me ten minutes of my life I’ll never get back- I’ve lost much more than that tweaking rules here and there in the past… ;-)

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 24, 2014 at 10:45 pm

1. No, don’t have air con on in the day or heat on in the winter while I’m away at work. I turn it all back on when I get home. Can I ask you…are you boneheaded enough to run your dryer to dry your clothes in the summer time when you could hang them outside on the line to save energy? Do you also let the sink water run and run while you do dishes instead of filling up the sink to wash them all at the same time and save water. Do you have water run off tanks from your gutters to capture water for your garden instead of running sprinklers in the dead of summer to keep the lawn green? Do you recycle everything you can….or do you go ‘Murican redneck and just throw everything away…you know…to stick it to Obama. Do you have your tires up to proper inflation (which by the way actually does save millions of gallons of gas per year if all Americans had their tires properly inflated). Do you compost your food scraps or just throw all that away as well…with the recycling.

2. I would cycle more but taxpayers (lawmakers) won’t invest in bike paths, bike lanes in the city, bike awareness campaigns, wider shoulders with no rumble strips or strengthen laws against motorists who harass, injure or kill cyclists…so I ride when I can but it’s dangerous out there.

3. I would invest in solar panels but the legislature is more in bed with the fossil fuel industry than the solar guys. The tax incentives to use free energy (the sun) can’t compete with the paybacks and kickbacks and payoffs from the Exxon boys. The Exxon boys get BILLIONS of our taxpayer dollars per year in “investment and research” while their CEO’s make kajillions of dollars and live like kings…off our tax money. You can bring up Solyndra all you want, but that’s a drop in the bucket compared to what the fossil fuel boys get from us.

4. When I fly, I opt to pay the carbon offset allowance.

5. When I buy produce, I usually try to wait to go to local farmer’s markets where the stuff is grown local and the money stays local. I get organic if I can. If I can’t, I don’t buy stuff that is out of season or flown in from other parts of the world.

6. The authors of the constitution were all white, all men, all of one faith, and mostly slave owners…hardly a cross section of “free thought”. While they had some good ideas, they hardly invented democracy and in my opinion the constitution leaves a lot to be desired. But just to entertain your thoughts, you should check out Washington’s approach to the Whiskey rebellion and the enshrinement of Federal powers that took root as a result of that action. Just sayin’

But, like I said…most South Carolinians (myself excluded) simply enjoy just being assholes for the sake of being assholes even though better solutions exist out there to make our state better.

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Mike at the Beach June 24, 2014 at 11:05 pm

Smack down? You truly are an intellectual wonder- you just wasted a dozen or so column inches making my point (but I know this gets tougher for you when you can’t pull your answer off of Wikipedia). The behaviors you listed all represent choices that you are free to make in this country, just as I should be free to use my clothes dryer versus exposing my lines and clothing to the salt air all day. You need a history lesson on the Constitution and the framers as well- I don’t recall ever saying that they “invented democracy” (nor did any of my excellent history or Pol Sci profs). What they did was perfect the model of republican, representative democracy, an entirely different animal. We simply disagree on a more fundamental level- you seem to believe that since YOU think I’m an “asshole” for buying my wife a vehicle large enough to be safe for her and my kids (and not hanging my clothes outside), that YOU should be able to dictate those choices for me. My bar for imposing the will of the collective government on our citizens is simply much higher than which light bulb we buy or whether we choose to air-dry our clothes. No biggie, but luckily (at least for the time being) the majority is hanging in there on the side of being left alone.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 24, 2014 at 11:35 pm

Your right to make poor choices *should* end where it meets my right to know that your poor choices won’t impact or threaten my life, liberty or happiness.
This happens seamlessly in other western democracies, but for some reason…a hell of a lot of ‘Muricans desire to make poor choices that negatively impact all of us…especially in this GOP run cesspit of SC.

Look, don’t take my word for it friend. Start some googling and find out for yourself where SC sits amongst the 50 states on anything from crime to education to pollution to corruption to unemployment to gun deaths to health care to obesity to traffic deaths to the “happiness” index…you name it.

Let me know what you find :-)

Mike at the Beach June 25, 2014 at 12:19 am

Again, you make my point. We enjoy great freedom here; if the “happiness index” (a fairly nonsensical bunch of nitwittery in itself) accurately reflected some level of genuine misery, would it not logically follow, then, that if our “happiness index” is somehow rated as “low” or “falling” (having not read it I don’t the rating system) that our population, free to move to some other less crappy “cesspit” would do so? I would bet that many states in your “happiness index” rate much higher than SC- is SC’s population declining or increasing? How does the rate of decrease or increase compare to other “happier” states? I think even you probably know the answer the answer to that without so much as a glance at Wiki. Smart, motivated people vote with their feet.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 25, 2014 at 12:26 am

You dodge and parry well. I stand by my comments for all to see and read here. Do some research and find out what the hard data says (not opinion) about where SC ranks amongst other states in quality of life measures.

As a general rule, those horrible liberal (blue) states tend to have better measures and act as Fed Tax donor states to the ‘Murican (red) states mostly in the south and mid-west who are taker states.

Just sayin’

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 25, 2014 at 12:27 am

…or we could stop constantly just voting the GOP to run our state and give that a whirl eh?

Smirks June 25, 2014 at 1:32 am

Air conditioners, as well as tons of other household appliances, are subject to federal regulations for improved efficiency and lower power consumption. Cars are being held to stricter gas mileage standards too.

Solar cells aren’t quite at the level to be affordable for most everyone. Also, you’ve got to worry about what your HOA is going to say about it in a lot of peoples’ cases. (Ironically, some areas are trying to pass laws to make it harder to purchase/install solar panels.)
“Freedom to choose” is a peculiar thing because most people don’t actively choose to go with the least efficient, most resource-consuming appliance or car they can find, and they don’t actively choose to get their power sources from the worst polluting energy sources. People pick an appliance because it’s cheap, on sale, looks nice, has a neat feature, got good reviews, etc. People pick a car because it’s roomy, it has a sunroof, it can tow a boat, it’s fucking huge and helps them cope with their small penis, etc. People simply call whatever power company and pay their bill, often completely oblivious to where their energy is coming from. Most people never exercise their “freedom to choose,” therefore the minority (and in some cases, extreme minority) that does is rendered insignificant and things don’t improve because the trends do not move towards improvement.

I will say that banning incandescent light bulbs wasn’t the brightest (pun definitely intended) idea, especially considering the flaws with the alternatives. Even so, regulating/banning shit that is deemed bad for society has been an American staple for a long, long time, and essentially every other country does it.

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Mike at the Beach June 25, 2014 at 2:25 am

I never put much stock in things like “every other country does it…”

Government is hopeless June 25, 2014 at 8:32 am

That doesn’t matter to Little Benito, he knows what’s best for everyone.

Smirks June 25, 2014 at 12:55 am

Ehh, LED bulbs aren’t the solution just yet. I bought a set for my ceiling fan and they blinked like strobe lights. Apparently LED lights don’t like digital switches, and even ones that say “dimmable” may not work for all applications.

Also, did you know most LED bulbs “burn out” long before the LEDs themselves die? There’s components inside the bulb that are needed to properly apply power to the LEDs themselves, and usually that’s the part that dies. Because of this the life expectancy of an LED bulb isn’t as long as it could be.

(This is why a lot of LED bulbs have heat sinks on them, and many recommend not putting it in an enclosed fixture. If the heat builds up it lowers the life expectancy of the bulb. I know some manufacturers go ahead and tell you to use them like normal bulbs anyways, but I’m sure those still have the same problem.)

CFLs also have issues but those are more well known.

I’m not bashing LED bulbs, not at all. I intend to buy some more in the future, I just know I can’t replace all the bulbs in my house with them just yet.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 25, 2014 at 1:16 am

First of all, kudos to you for trying them out.

However, it sounds as if you didn’t completely do your homework prior to switching over (don’t worry, most people don’t) and that’s why you encountered the flickering effect and the non-compatabiliity with dimmable switches.

However, the technology is already here, it’s the underlying electrical infrastructure in a home that sometimes causes these probs with LEDs. If you’re not an electrician, you can get one out to advise whether you need to make the necessary changes to accommodate the LED bulbs or if you can just switch out the halogen (incandescent) bulbs straight up.

As far as dimmable LEDs go, you can get them, but it requires a whole new fixture. Gotta say that the heat issue (when properly installed and operational) is far less than any other bulbs out there. You could leave an LED bulb on for hours and reach up and touch it and it would be cool to the touch (I’ve tried it). LEDs also burn for 45,000 hours longer than your normal bulb so even though they may be $$ up front, it’s been proven the long term savings from not having to replace bulbs as often and the reduced electricity consumption makes them pay for themselves fairly quickly…and help save the earth.

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Smirks June 25, 2014 at 1:51 am

it sounds as if you didn’t completely do your homework prior to switching over (don’t worry, most people don’t)

underlying electrical infrastructure in a home

If you’re not an electrician, you can get one out

As far as dimmable LEDs go, you can get them, but it requires a whole new fixture.

It’s about this moment that the average person gives up. Nobody wants to do their homework (believe me, I thought I had after a few hours of reading before I bought the bulbs). Nobody wants to even think about what the electrical infrastructure in their home is like. Most people are clueless about electrical work and nobody would want to call an electrician because it’s expensive. Even talking about buying new fixtures or switches or what have you is enough to turn most people off to it.

CFLs have the luxury of working in a lot of applications without any extra work. LED bulbs are already more expensive and the mere thought of having to do extensive work or spend even more money is pretty much the final nail in the coffin. I can’t blame them, I feel the same way. I don’t want to spend who knows how much time/money/work trying to get a light bulb to work in one room, and extra costs will negate the savings on the energy bill for years and years. Maybe if I were richer, but sadly I’m not.

Maybe 20-30 years from now, almost all fairly new houses will just be LED ready from the get go and it will be more feasible, but for now I don’t expect it to really pick up off the ground.

You could leave an LED bulb on for hours and reach up and touch it and it would be cool to the touch

The first few bulbs I bought were cheap ones and do heat up after about an hour. They are in open fixtures so the air at least circulates a bit and keeps them from getting too hot.

I realize it’s my fault for going cheap (I bought them with the intention of just trying out an LED bulb in various rooms) but most Americans are going to go for cheap bulbs.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 25, 2014 at 2:09 am

I feel your pain…and dare I suggest the dreaded t-bagger government subsidy to homeowners in the form of some sort of meaningful tax credit or even a direct pay scheme to the electricians themselves to assess and replace the bulbs. Something in the order of a 30 to 40 percent rebate ought to do it. But of course, this is America and in this current climate (no pun intended), there is absolutely no political will to pass something sensible like this for people like us.

I’m desperate to install solar panels but just can’t afford the upfront costs. If only the gov’t (some sort of fed/state partnership) would give us a massive rebate for installing them…more people would do it…which would make them cheaper to produce and more affordable. But then you get the crowd who whine about “picking winners and losers” but are happy to have the gov’t dole out billions to the oil and coal industries.

Government is hopeless June 25, 2014 at 8:35 am

I love watching two know it all’s debate each other on the merit of LED’s and which law telling everyone what to buy should be passed and enforced by government.

The goosesteps by both of you give me goosebumps.

Viva La Revolucion!

What’s next comrades? Tell us what to do!

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 25, 2014 at 11:30 am

About 7 years ago, TBG did the math on CFLs. Taking into account their longevity [Ha!] and power savings , TBG concluded that he could switch out all the bulbs in his home, go all Johnny Paycheck on his boss and post comments on blogs for the rest of his life…..

Now you know the “Rest of the Story”……

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 25, 2014 at 11:35 am

I bought a set for my ceiling fan and they blinked like strobe lights.

Lemons….lemonade.

Hang a disco ball under it and invite GT, his mom and some other folks over for a party!!!!

*TBG is going to be attending an out of state Powwow/Bar Mitzvah that weekend. Sorry.*

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CorruptionInColumbia June 25, 2014 at 12:17 pm

Somehow, I just haven’t yet been able to wrap my mind around the idea that these modern fluorescent bulbs with a high mercury content, being broken by the millions in our landfills and even in our homes, are less polluting than the energy consumed by a standard incandescent bulb.

On the LED’s I can deal with that better but know that the LED’s do produce a fair amount of UV radiation, which may be harmful to one’s eyes or maybe even in other ways.

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Government is hopeless June 25, 2014 at 12:33 pm

You see, it doesn’t matter, certain people know better than you. Individual choices are the bane of central planners, as it leaves them little to do.

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Tom June 25, 2014 at 10:42 am

Without debating whether we should have incandescent light bulbs, since I really do not know. I understand what Progressives believe, but I am trying to understand what “conservatives” (if that term really means anything anymore) think about the environment. Do you truly believe the government has no right to restrict your ability to pollute the environment? How do you see the free market protecting us from becoming like London during the industrial revolution, the US in the 1960s and China today.

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Government is hopeless June 25, 2014 at 11:03 am

First, I’m not a conservative.

Second, we have too many laws regulating every aspect of everyone’s life.

So what I “believe” is that people should be free to choose whatever they want as long as it doesn’t hurt other people. (and that would include polluting their own property as long as it doesn’t impact others, which would be stupid for them to do obviously)

If some factory is belching out pollutants that ruins the air for surrounding citizens, said citizens should be able to sue for damages.

The problem with your argument about the statue of pollution at any given time in any society is that it assumes that technological advance in manufacturing wasn’t responsible for the cleaning of air…instead it was “gov’t regs” or the like.

If there was simply an effective way for people harmed by pollution to adjudicate their harm without government interference(see, if gov’t says a factory can pollute currently, then it’s ‘ok’) then these problems would resolve themselves over time and on the basis of tech. advancement.

So while said advancement might always include a window of pollution and a struggle to control it, it’s not ‘forever’ and in the big picture still makes human life better from my perspective.

The idea that a group of 536 elected central planners and their bureaucrats know whats best for 330 million people is laughable.

Burning one fire in your fireplace emits more carbon in the air than running a modern day car for a year…so do we outlaw that too? There’s really no practical limit to that philosophy as Mike so eloquently pointed out.

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Tom June 25, 2014 at 11:32 am

Ah, so you propose a turn the lawyers loose method of control. I am not opposed to that as an idea. In fact, I think that could solve a lot of problems. However, the problem is those who purport to Represent “conservatives” or “libertarians” or limited government people or whatever you guys call yourselves, do not agree with you. They want to pass laws that prevent people from suing corporations and other people.

For example did you realize there is a federal law limiting the damages a utility would be subject to if a nuclear reactor melts down? All of your property could be contaminated, you could be wiped out, and you would get virtually nothing from a law suit against the utility, because of the total damages limitation. This is what the tort reform movement is all about. Making it impossible for average people to sue large corporations when they are damaged.

And while I don’t disagree with you its difficult to know what is best for everybody, we do have objective evidence of what will happen if we do nothing to protect the environment. This is why I get so frustrated with the Tea nuts. They don’t think anything through. Its always an emotion driven half plan. Like, lets get rid of the EPA and see what happens; lets get rid of income tax and see what happens.

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Government is hopeless June 25, 2014 at 11:44 am

“Ah, so you propose a turn the lawyers loose method of control. I am not opposed to that as an idea. In fact, I think that could solve a lot of problems.”

Well, then, you could have stopped there and we’d be in agreement.

“Its always an emotion driven half plan. Like, lets get rid of the EPA and see what happens;”

Yea, but see…you just answered your own concern…you turn the lawyers loose…end of story…no “emotional” argument needed. It’s like you just agreed and then disagreed.

Tom June 25, 2014 at 11:54 am

But virtually no one who agrees with you on the environment agrees with you on turning the lawyers loose, and repealing all the anti-lawsuit protections that corporations have paid politicians to put in place. You can’t do one without doing the other. Therein lies the problem.

Also, while I agree with that plan, it would not be enough. Large corporations would still bury any individual who tried to sue them, figuratively if possible or literally if not. Not to mention the cost of doing the research necessary to prove your point. You would need public funding of litigation, and police protection for litigants.

Government is hopeless June 25, 2014 at 12:01 pm

“Not to mention the cost of doing the research necessary to prove your point. ”

You agreed with me…now you are disagreeing…lol…I give up. Some things are so axiomatic they don’t need research.

I don’t need research to tell me the sky is blue…or that I like air…lol…oh well…I tried.

Tom June 25, 2014 at 12:14 pm

I agree with you still on the lawyer issue, I just don’t agree its enough to solve the problem. Further, while you do not need research to tell you the sky is blue, you do need research to prove you have monetary damages when the sky is brown. That is how litigation works. You have to prove something is damaging you monetarily to get compensation.

Government is hopeless June 25, 2014 at 12:22 pm

“That is how litigation works.”

Thank you for explaining that to me.

Native Ink June 25, 2014 at 12:11 pm

That is what is so disgusting about the “freedom” conservatives want to protect. It is largely the freedom to exploit, discriminate against, destroy, and corrupt.

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Native Ink June 24, 2014 at 6:52 pm

It isn’t a partisan thing. The next time you guys get started with “libtard” and whatnot, remember that the majority of Democrats won’t come to the defense of dishonest bureaucrats and politicians, even if they work for a Democratic president.

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Fat Greg Dulli June 25, 2014 at 10:41 am

Do you have statistical data to support? Seems as though Oblammo’s administration is programmed to defend the dishonest.

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Native Ink June 25, 2014 at 12:08 pm

I’m talking about the Democrat voters. I believe there are dishonest bureaucrats and politicians no matter who is in the Oval Office.

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Fat Greg Dulli June 25, 2014 at 12:35 pm

Obama got re-elected, how’s that for Dem voters propping up a dishonest politician?

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Native Ink June 25, 2014 at 12:43 pm

LOL. I am not 100% behind Obama. I hate his position on the NSA, for example, but every election is a choice between 2 flawed people. The majority of Americans preferred Obama to Romney, and I agree that was the right choice.

Fat Greg Dulli June 25, 2014 at 3:51 pm

Sorry to hear that, he’s been one huge disappointment after another.

urbantrout June 24, 2014 at 7:06 pm

Nothing to celebrate here….that poll was taken from a sample of people who’ve actually HEARD of the IRS scandal…….that amounts to about 10% of the population.

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GrandTango June 24, 2014 at 7:41 pm

What percent of the German population did you and Hitler kill? Was it higher than 10?

EVERY AMERICAN matters, you NAZI piece of S#!t….

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Tom June 24, 2014 at 7:47 pm

While your response to urbantrout’s post is amusing and shows you lack the ability to read with even third grade comprehension; I believe you and Romney would support killing about 42% of the US Population. Isn’t that the percentage Romney said we did not need to worry about, because they are worthless takers. Ah, so much for the Republican view of on every American counting.

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GrandTango June 24, 2014 at 8:54 pm

Obama is instituting DEATH PANELS. And Obama told the woman he’d give her mother a pain pill, and let her die.

Romney has never been president. Dumb@$$…Nice Try though…

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Smirks June 25, 2014 at 1:57 am

GrandTango is instituting DUMB PANELS! You can read all about them on his blog. Well, mostly because the panel is his blog.

Rakkasan June 25, 2014 at 8:37 am

Or is it Dumb Panels for dead people? Or is it Death Panels for Dumb@$$es?

Or is it benefit/coverage denial as a standard practice of every private sector health care plan out there–including yours. Anything to reduce their costs for the most expensive coverage: the last year of your life. Welcome to the Free Market

Rakkasan June 25, 2014 at 8:26 am

And Romney wasn’t even counting the corporate and farm welfare queens in the 42%.

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urbantrout June 25, 2014 at 9:19 pm

Not a fan of subsidies either, but….corporations actually PRODUCE THINGS AND EMPLOY PEOPLE…..those parasites you see stumbling around public housing projects produce nothing but urine, feces, Democrat votes, and more of their own kind.

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 24, 2014 at 8:45 pm

What percent of the German population did you and Hitler kill? Was it higher than 10?

EVERY AMERICAN matters, you NAZI piece of S#!t….

Mike Godwin called. He wants his law back.

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urbantrout June 25, 2014 at 8:49 am

I don’t know who you are, but you must have tangoed off the deep end of an empty pool, you brain-addled fucktard. Who the hell was talking about Nazis? Although, the IRS are kinda like Nazis, without the cool uniforms and tanks and planes…..yet. That may be in the 2015 budget. SO, we’ll need your tax money, so don’t quit your job expressing dog’s anal glands at the Petsmart yet, Tango.

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euwe max June 24, 2014 at 7:54 pm

How’s that whole “hopey changey” thing working out for you?

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vicupstate June 24, 2014 at 8:30 pm

I whole lot better than “Don’t Mess with Texas”

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euwe max June 24, 2014 at 8:39 pm

Yeah, but we got guns!

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Bible Thumper June 24, 2014 at 8:44 pm

Obama is against anyone having guns except Mexican drug lords and ISIS.

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euwe max June 24, 2014 at 8:47 pm

He’s for limiting firepower… the NRA wants even the Mexican drug lords and ISIS to have guns with unlimited firepower

Fat Greg Dulli June 25, 2014 at 8:48 am

Unlimited firepower is a myth perpetuated by the mentally retarded left. Unlimited firepower, what does that even mean?

euwe max June 25, 2014 at 8:53 am

Unlimited firepower is like liberty and freedom – the definition depends on how wacko you are.

Fat Greg Dulli June 25, 2014 at 10:30 am

Oblabber seems to want to attack the number of rounds American’s can purchase at a time now. None of these school massacres have involved any more than a couple of 50 round boxes of ammunition, hardly unlimited firepower. The last time I saw anything close to “unlimited firepower” on display in America was when those two bank robbers in LA got caught with their pants down and staged that massive shootout with LEO back in the mid 90s. Before that was when the Koreans had to protect their property from being destroyed in the wake of the Rodney King verdicts because LEO had abandoned them. There’s a case for “unlimited firepower”.

euwe max June 25, 2014 at 11:40 am

Let’s talk about something interesting… how about we talk about all the nifty weapons we used in the Iraq war.. did you see the rounds that the A-10 fires? 30mm! Now that’s a squirrel gun I can get behind!!! do you think the fondling fathers intended for us to use something like THAT for home defense?

HAW HAW

Carrying a cross wrapped flag June 25, 2014 at 12:26 pm

I think my favorite part of A-10 rounds is the subsequent contamination from depleted uranium in the areas it’s used in.

Defects in your enemy’s newborn are a great way of saying, “We’ll fuck your children too.”

Yay for America!

euwe max June 25, 2014 at 12:50 pm
urbantrout June 25, 2014 at 9:15 pm

You’re being facetious, but I totally agree…fuck their offspring. As Cromwell and Chivington said, “nits breed lice”. Unfortunately, you show your ignorance of fissile materials….regardless of what Code Pink might tell you,DP is pretty much inert.

Carrying a cross wrapped flag June 25, 2014 at 9:55 pm

“regardless of what Code Pink might tell you,DP is pretty much inert.”

“The actual level of acute and chronic toxicity of DU is also a point of medical controversy. Several studies using cultured cells and laboratory rodents suggest the possibility of leukemogenic, and of genetic, reproductive, and neurological effects from chronic exposure.[5] A 2005 epidemiology
review concluded: “In aggregate the human epidemiological evidence is
consistent with increased risk of birth defects in offspring of persons
exposed to DU.”[10] The World Health Organization, the directing and coordinating authority for health within the United Nations, states that no risk of reproductive, developmental, or carcinogenic effects have been reported in humans due to DU exposure.[11][12] This report has been criticized for not including possible long term effects of DU on the human body.”

-wiki

Let me guess, wiki is “bullshit” to you right?

No matter, I have nothing but respect for a man that isn’t afraid to self identify as an eager baby killer. Seriously, would you admit that in public instead of here? We both know the answer to that, but whatever makes you feel like a big man keyboard commando.

urbantrout June 25, 2014 at 10:45 pm

You made my point , cupcake…and as an aside, if you can’t discern the difference between ignorant savages and the evolved humans of the northern hemisphere, you’re beyond help.

Carrying a cross wrapped flagg June 26, 2014 at 4:24 am

I can discern the savages quite clearly, cupcake. Perhaps its time for you to do some more keyboard curls.

urbantrout June 25, 2014 at 10:39 pm

You are one stupid fuck….exactly who gave the drug lords automatic weapons? Your twin Gods, Amos Obama and Andy Holder yassuh, yassuh

euwe max June 25, 2014 at 11:03 pm

.exactly who gave the drug lords automatic weapons?

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guns don’t kill people.

TontoBubbaGoldstein June 24, 2014 at 8:29 pm

… so it’s up to congressional leaders to get off the snide.

It’s “schneide”, TBG points out snidely.

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euwe max June 25, 2014 at 12:59 am

I prefer “idge” (Illiococcygeus) or “quim”

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt June 24, 2014 at 9:43 pm

Talk about conspiracies….look up how many people think the twin towers were an inside gov’t job or “false flag” attack. Same with the Boston bombing.
Hell, there’s millions of Americans who think the earth is only 6000 years old and was created in 6 days by a magical sky wizard.

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major major June 25, 2014 at 9:21 am

So–to sum up–some Americans believe in God, therefore the IRS didn’t deliberately destroy emails.

OK, got it.

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Manray June 24, 2014 at 11:30 pm

It’s common knowledge that if more people believe something than don’t it must be true.

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euwe max June 25, 2014 at 12:51 am

Unless you’re in the tea party – then if most people don’t believe it, it must be true.

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Survey June 25, 2014 at 1:27 am

Invasion on the border … why doesn’t Sic report anything about it? Is Sic Pro Illegal?

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Rakkasan June 25, 2014 at 2:24 am

Why, I just don’t recall very much at all about Iran, weapons, or giving guns or money to the Contras. In fact, I do recall that that would be illegal. I vaguely remember some conversations with LtCol North, but the details escape me.

Ronald “Tax Raise” Raygun

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