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SOUTH CAROLINA BLACK LUMINARIES GO ON THE ATTACK … This website has been effusive in its praise of U.S. Sen. Tim Scott at times … and harshly critical of him at other times. We base that praise (or criticism) exclusively on Scott’s votes as a member of the U.S. Congress. His…

SOUTH CAROLINA BLACK LUMINARIES GO ON THE ATTACK …

This website has been effusive in its praise of U.S. Sen. Tim Scott at times … and harshly critical of him at other times. We base that praise (or criticism) exclusively on Scott’s votes as a member of the U.S. Congress.

His race has nothing to do with it …

Or so we thought …

Scott’s skin pigmentation became an issue during a segment on MSNBC this week when anchor Craig Melvin – formerly of WIS TV 10 (NBC – Columbia, S.C.) questioned former Barack Obama health care advisor Anton Gunn.

First, Melvin quoted race-baiting S.C. Rep. Todd Rutherford – who said that “the color of (Scott’s) skin certainly is not representative of the way that he votes on the policies that he seems to side with.”

Huh?

Scott was understandably indignant in response to Rutherford’s broadside, saying “the theory that there is some monolithic group of thinkers, called the black community, is not consistent with reality.”

Melvin’s take on all of this?

“Would Senator Scott’s election, would it come with an asterisk like Rutherford’s suggesting or seems to be suggesting here?” he asked Gunn.

Um … an asterisk?

Here’s the clip …

Good God … Melvin’s question is every bit as offensive than Rutherford’s initial comment. In fact it’s even more offensive because it comes from a professional journalist (someone who ought to know better).

“Would Mr. Melvin have asked Gunn the same question of Roland Burris, an African-American who was appointed to fill then-Senator Barack Obama’s Illinois Senate seat upon (his) election as president? Or does Melvin question the legitimacy of Scott’s Senate tenure because isn’t a Democrat?” the website NewsBusters asks.

Excellent questions …

Of course our founding editor was far more direct in his Twitter critique of Melvin’s question …

Whoa …

Again … we don’t always agree with Scott, but you better believe we will defend him against this sort of classless attack from the far left.

There really is no racism quite like the racism of blacks who go after other blacks for failing to fall in line, is there?

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162 comments

Jay Ellington February 18, 2014 at 4:59 pm

Sorry to see Craig Melvin throwing away his talent.

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CorruptionInColumbia February 18, 2014 at 7:58 pm

For real! Like many, I was sad to see him leave this market but glad for him in that he was apparently climbing up the ladder a few rungs.

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Sandy Burglar February 19, 2014 at 7:46 am

Going to MSDNC isn’t exactly “climbing up the ladder a few rungs.” More like falling off the ladder completely into the very cesspool of race-baiting, America-hating, intellectually dishonest, wacky, far-out, plastic banana, left-wing kooks and nut jobs who do nothing but lie their asses off every single day and make complete fools of themselves.
Where else would somebody like Al Sharpton get a platform to spew his hate and lies on a daily basis after he engineered the Tawana Brawley debacle? Crown Heights? All of the race hustling to generate money? MSDNC….good for some laughs and lies but not so much for facts or intelligent discussion. Too bad Melvin.

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GrandTango February 18, 2014 at 5:22 pm

Have you ever watched Melvin on MSNBC? That guy is a kook, leftwing radical nutjob. You should not be surprised….He has died and gone to liberal heaven in his new Affirmative-Action scam…

That said: FITS you do try to claim Scott is gay…so don’t play all on the up-and-up…

You’re not racist, you’re just a liar about what and who you are…You are a lot more likely to pander and patronize black people, like your Daddy, Sanford does…

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Buz Martin February 18, 2014 at 10:07 pm

I don’t believe Will has ever specifically said that Scott is gay. He may have mentioned the perception that a lot of people have on that count. So what?

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:32 am

The Symbiosis Of Murder And Lies
What Do I See Looking Through Your Disguise?
Fourth Reich Dementia, Subversion Ideals
God Only Knows What Your Secret Conceals

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Cali February 18, 2014 at 5:35 pm

Craig Melvin can’t be racist! He’s married to a white woman! Lol!! You need to find another story to talk about, Will.

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Will Folks aka Sic February 18, 2014 at 5:43 pm

Cali, Nobody ever said he was racist toward white people … read the story.

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GrandTango February 18, 2014 at 5:48 pm

You must have never watched his news commentary show then, if you don’t think he is racist toward white people…

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:31 am

You’re Preaching Revolution
Don’t You Mean Genocide?
Behind This Resolution
My Jekyll Doesn’t Hide

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Cali February 18, 2014 at 6:32 pm

Will,

According to your last statement on Melvin, you stated, “There really is no racism quite like the racism of blacks who go after other blacks for failing to fall in line, is there?” He didn’t “fall in line” by marrying white woman. So what makes you think he would be against a Black Republican for not falling in line. LOL!!! Your logic is off my friend!!

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GrandTango February 18, 2014 at 5:46 pm

That’s funny: I had a friend of mine tell me that white women are considered trophies, taken from white men, by black men. It’s usually a sign of conquer, he told me..

Women, in all societies are considered legitimate plunder, according to one black commentator I heard.

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SCBlueWoman February 18, 2014 at 8:07 pm

There you go.. those talking points. Women as trophies. Right.

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9" February 18, 2014 at 9:33 pm

You have a friend?

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9" February 18, 2014 at 9:33 pm

I meant,had.

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Buz Martin February 18, 2014 at 10:09 pm

Payback, maybe, for your ancestors banging their slaves, Big T?

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GrandTango February 19, 2014 at 5:45 am

Does not affect me, Buz. But strange that you and Obama look at it like a game of Revenge. That probably explains a lot of things.

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:32 am

Condemned To Violence, Arrested By Pain
Inside The Soul Lies A Man Insane
Conceived In Anger, Addicted To Hate
The Mutant Child Of A Twisted State

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TontoBubbaGoldstein February 19, 2014 at 8:30 am

“….white women are considered trophies, taken from white men, by black men….”

….some of the largest trophies TBG has ever seen.

*”eeee eeeeeee eeeeeee”[orca sound]*

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Squishy123 February 18, 2014 at 6:10 pm

According to Chris Rock, there are three levels of success for a black man:
I. Big Car
II. Big House
III. White Woman

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CorruptionInColumbia February 18, 2014 at 7:57 pm

You left out the adjective, “big ole’ heavy-duty”, before “White Women”.

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BrigidBernadette February 18, 2014 at 7:55 pm

Is that an attempt at sarcasm: ‘he can’t be racist.’ Yes he can! MSNBC is the most racist network on TV, so he found a job in the right place, where he can openly be a racist. Too bad no one will want him after they use him and dump him. The treatment of Tim Scott is a disgrace. Racist liberals claim to want ‘diversity,’ but it better not be diversity of ideology, opinion, politics. In that, you want totalitarian lock step. Keep on popping that Uncle Tom bullshit at SENATOR Tim Scott, I love seeing you show your collective asses.

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Cali February 18, 2014 at 8:08 pm

Your opinions are biased. Melvin did/has not made one racist comment. He found “a job” with MSNBC because he was already working for WIS in Columbia, which is also an NBC affiliate.

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BrigidBernadette February 18, 2014 at 8:38 pm

And your opinions aren’t, huh?

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Cali February 18, 2014 at 8:49 pm

Like I said, he hasn’t made one racist comment. Maybe, if he were working at Foxnews, you would be singing his praises. Lol!! He jumped on Gunn’s case a few weeks ago about a political matter – I guess you didn’t see that.

BrigidBernadette February 18, 2014 at 8:57 pm

The article here, accompanied by the video of Craig Melvin, IS him making a racist comment. Go home, you got nothing. The sky is blue by the way, right in front of your face, you want to tell me it’s green now.

Cali February 18, 2014 at 9:07 pm

You must be looking at an Al Sharpton video – I guess the sky is yellow your way. He was quoting Todd Rutherford when he asked Gunn the question regarding the asterisk. Therefore, you got nothing – go to bed! Lol!

BrigidBernadette February 18, 2014 at 8:42 pm

I don’t even know what you are saying with the network affiliation. Yeah, we know they are all NBC, so does that mean all anchors get rotated to a national ‘job’? Keep obfuscating, because you have nothing to say.

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Squishy123 February 18, 2014 at 6:09 pm

I don’t know if I’d call Craig Melvin a racist, he’s a black man so wanting to be a white man and doesn’t seem to have any problem sticking his black dick in his white wife.

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Squishy123 February 18, 2014 at 6:15 pm

Craig “Tier III Today show reporter” Melvin, Todd “scarhead” Rutherford, and Anton ‘I live off the death of my brother” Gunn in the same location, I feel sorry for the cameraman who was likely confused who he should have the camera on.

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Edgar February 18, 2014 at 8:13 pm

I knew Craig at Wofford and in Columbia. He is a great guy, not a racist and doing a great job. Squishy123, you know better. Todd R grew a pair this year, stood up to the Black Caucus and opposed Jean “I’m a professional crook” Toal. Todd figured out that Toal is actually a racist. She does all this I’m so pro-Black when what she is doing is saying she owns them and they best do what “she say.” Todd’s respect meter within the BAR and politically went up 50 points for this act of integrity just as James Smith’s went down 50 points. You win on Anton. He’s a racist. We need more like Craig and Todd.

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Squishy123 February 18, 2014 at 10:36 pm

Yeah whatever, Craig is just wants to be the next Bryant Gumbel and it’s not going as planned. Craig is below Jenna Wolf on the Today show pecking order and his show on MSNBC is nothing more than a time slot filler.

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9" February 18, 2014 at 6:32 pm

Scott is a bigot,and a hypocrite,but he’s a ‘republican’.He’s alright because he actin’ white.

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Cali February 18, 2014 at 7:10 pm

And that “asterisk” that Melvin asked Gunn about was a direct quote from Rutherford. This was in the State Newspaper. Here’s the exact quote – “But if Scott does become the state’s first African-American politician elected statewide since Reconstruction, House Minority Leader Todd Rutherford, D-Richland, says that win will come with an asterisk.” Will, get your facts together before accusing someone of being racist – Melvin was using Rutherford’s statement regarding “an asterisk” to get additional dialogue from Gunn. You’re a journalist – you should know and understand the nature of reporting!

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SCBlueWoman February 18, 2014 at 8:03 pm

Journalist? Bwaaahaaahaaa.

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Ditto February 18, 2014 at 9:14 pm

What she said.

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Barry1234 February 19, 2014 at 9:00 pm

A “journalist” doesn’t have to accept a ludicrous premise. That would make no sense.
If Sen Brad Hutto believes Nikki Setzler is Bigfoot, a “journalist” isn’t going to ask Sen Wes Hayes what he thinks about Setzler being Bigfoot.

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Jay Ellington February 19, 2014 at 11:42 pm

Ok, so Rutherford is still a racist.

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Cali February 20, 2014 at 8:39 pm

Well, then Rutherford’s photo should be on this page – not Melvin’s photo.

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Elfego February 18, 2014 at 8:45 pm

Blacks percentage wise are much more racist than any race in America. If you do not think and act like a Liberal you are not black enough!

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Cali February 18, 2014 at 8:56 pm

Keep up the good work, Melvin!! Let your haters be your motivators!! Lol!!

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BrigidBernadette February 18, 2014 at 8:59 pm

And on cue, you join the race baiting. You’re no better than Melvin.

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Cali February 18, 2014 at 9:13 pm

That was no racist statement! I support all positive people from all races who are natives of South Carolina.

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BrigidBernadette February 18, 2014 at 9:21 pm

Including Tim Scott?

Cali February 18, 2014 at 9:26 pm

Including Tim Scott, my dear! And that’s a fact. Melvin and Scott are 2 outstanding SC natives who should be commended.

SCBlueWoman February 18, 2014 at 9:13 pm

And you appear to be uninformed or just plain stupid.

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BrigidBernadette February 18, 2014 at 9:25 pm

Did you get lost on the way to the Daily Kos? This is a libertarian site, what are you doing here when you disagree with every single thing FITS stands for, troll. Now get the fuck out of my face. Don’t even address comments to me, you are not worthy.

Smirks February 19, 2014 at 8:32 am

OH. MY. GOD.

HOW DARE YOU COME TO THIS SITE WITH A DISSENTING OPINION? YOU FAR LEFT COMMUNIST HACK TROLL! SOME OF US ARE TRYING TO ENJOY A NICE SESSION IN A CONSERVATIVE/LIBERTARIAN ECHO CHAMBER AND MAOIST ANTI-AMERICAN BIGOT DEMOCRAT FASCISTS HAVE TO COME IN HERE AND EXPRESS THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHT? THE AUDACITY! GO BACK TO YOUR LITTLE LIBERAL HOLE IN THE INTERNET WALL!

WILL FOLKS SHOULD BAN EVERY LAST ONE OF THE COMMENTERS THAT DISAGREE WITH HIM FROM POSTING! ONLY THEN CAN WE TRULY HAVE OPEN DIALOGUE AND FREEDOM!

TontoBubbaGoldstein February 19, 2014 at 8:36 am

YEAH!!

DAMN EFFFING STRAIGHT

WHAT SMIRKS SAID!!!!

BRING OUT THE BAN HAMMER!

Wait…..

WHAT???

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 12:56 pm

Kill..kill…killl and the doctor was jumping up and down with me… screaming kill.. kill… kill..

Gregory Geddings February 19, 2014 at 9:12 am

The CAPS is the cherry on the top of your comment.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 12:55 pm

Capitalism!

He should have left it in one continuous block, added more misspellings and double the’s.

GrandTango February 19, 2014 at 8:40 am

You go brother. SCBW (like a lot of liberals) is a caricature of the ridiculous liberal woman…except she really believes the clichés she advances.

Stupid and failed…but blames every white man in America because she makes bad decisions, and has trouble relating to moral people…

Jay Ellington February 19, 2014 at 8:46 am

Be careful, before you know it SCBlueWoman and her band of mindless trolls will be labeling you a racist. You’re a libertarian? You must be a racist. You’re white? You must be a racist. You have a negative opinion of Obama? You must be a racist. SCBlueWoman, bless her heart, is a race baiting old hag.

SCBlueWoman February 19, 2014 at 9:11 am

I’ll address comments where I like, unless Will bans me. I don’t think that’s the libertarian way, or is it? Bless your heart.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 12:54 pm

Libertarian
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why are we forbidden to post embedded video or pictures? Because personal responsibility and the free market says we aren’t allowed to… but Breitbart is less libertarian and allows their dogmatic bit-brained animals that privilege.

Smirks February 19, 2014 at 8:28 am

Blacks percentage wise are much more racist than any race in America.

1) [citation needed]

2) Are you saying Tim Scott is more likely to be a racist too?

3)Everybody’s at least a little bit racist.

4) Why are you making such a statement? Is it a contest?

5) Judge a man based on the content of his character, not the color of his skin. Racists come in every skin color, and racists are 100% more likely to be assholes than non-racists.

6) Wouldn’t making a comment about how a certain race is more racist than other races without factoring in anything but race be in and of itself racist?

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James Fleming Jr February 19, 2014 at 9:25 am

If you would watch and listen more you would have the only citation needed!

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:55 pm Reply
I'm a raciss, your a raciss February 19, 2014 at 3:19 pm

Percentage of Black voting for Obama in 2012: 93%(96% for females)
Percentage of White voting for Obama in 2012: 39%

This means blacks were more racist than whites in 2012, and not by a little.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt February 19, 2014 at 5:22 pm

Hence the GOP operations in the South to keep blacks (and Latinos) away from the polls.

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Original Good Old Boy February 19, 2014 at 2:48 pm

These words are from Chris Rock, not me, and I’m paraphrasing.
“Black people are the most racist people around . . . the don’t like white people or niggers.”

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Tre B. February 20, 2014 at 2:39 pm

So, noooowwww you want to take Chris Rock seriously… that’s about as smart as taking Todd Rutherford seriously…

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Thomas February 18, 2014 at 9:03 pm

Personally, I was very happy he left WISTV!

His voice is squeaky and his delivery is so…well, he seems to not know when to breath…ok, he is a mouth breather who sprays when he talks.

I hope he does NOT bomb out in his current career path…and…comes back to WISTV to torture us with his inability to report the news. Stay up there, Melvin, please.

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9" February 18, 2014 at 9:05 pm

AND,he’s BLACK! Lord have mercy,please.

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SCBlueWoman February 18, 2014 at 9:16 pm

BLack and beautiful. Woot!!!!

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GrandTango February 19, 2014 at 5:56 am

Like a lot of liberal and bitter white women, you seem to look at male-female relationships as a strategy to attack the people that you have contempt for.

I have noticed in some pop culture TV shows that the liberal women attempt use race as a weapon against white men….It’s really futile…

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TontoBubbaGoldstein February 19, 2014 at 8:24 am

Day-um T…..You getting all defensive over a ‘Woot”. Thank God SCBW didn’t “Woot…WOOT!!” or you would have had a conniption.

Didn’t you already establish your massive Alpha cred on a recent thread?

Why you so insecure, Homie?

*makes popcorn*

GrandTango February 19, 2014 at 8:49 am

Talking about me, instead of the subject matter really is boring. I’m not that exciting..

You hate me…we KNOW that. We GET IT…you look like a vapid idiot expressing it over and over..

I’d REALLY like to see how liberals respond to content…do you really have any thoughts, that are sincere..and not fed to you by the DNC and MSNBC…????

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:38 pm

You hate me…we KNOW that. We GET IT

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is that the royal we?

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:37 pm

Let us all reflect on the unsung praises of the well placed WOOT.

SCBlueWoman February 19, 2014 at 9:13 am

Blaaa blaaa blaaa…. blaaa blaaa blaaa. Sounds just like the teacher in the Charlie Brown cartoons.. Blaaa blaaa blaaa.

GrandTango February 19, 2014 at 9:16 am

Your inability to communicate anything but tripe, proves my point.

You liberals are pretty empty-headed and pretty much serve as a mass voice for democrat dogma, that they have to feed you, so you’ll have something to say. You are lost when asked to exchange ideas or express sincere purpose.

SCBlueWoman February 19, 2014 at 9:21 am

You are simply a broken record. Blaa blaa blaaa. Empty headed is the perfect word for you and your hate filled soul.

Squishy123 February 18, 2014 at 10:37 pm

If he comes back to WIS, maybe he can rekindle his romance with Dawndy.

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Jay Ellington February 18, 2014 at 11:20 pm

If he comes back to Columbia, I imagine Mayor Benjamin has a few positions he’d like to put him in.

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GrandTango February 19, 2014 at 8:45 am

Typical liberal. Anytime a woman is in the public, and not hideous like your heroines Darth Bader Ginsberg, Hillary and Shalala…you can only make lewd accusations. You think women are for using…and abusing….unless they can be used to subvert American freedom…

Bill Clinton and John Edwards sho taught yall how to get the most out of a girl…then toss her to the trash heap…nice party you democrats are…

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GrandTango February 19, 2014 at 6:34 am

Bomb out???…Have you seen the number of viewers MSNBC attracts???…I think he bombed out when he took a job w/ them.

But my guess is he’ll fall somewhere else once his foray into failed liberal talk crashes.

In a fair world, he’d be unemployed because he is tainted for news because his true self was revealed on MSNBC…but unfortunately the market is not what dives liberal media success…

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 12:51 pm

Have you seen the number of viewers MSNBC attracts???

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The most popular news channel is the one that tells the truth.

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FedUp February 20, 2014 at 1:45 pm

Melvin comes from the teleprompter dependent generation.

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Johnny Blaze February 20, 2014 at 9:27 pm

Thomas, I promise you that South Carolina is the very last place that Craig Melvin will want to go back to (I’m sure his wife would laugh in his face if he ever brought up the idea). Why would they want to reside in a a regressive, red state when they can live in New York or D.C.?

You right-wingers are hilarious – do you really think people who leave red states like yours really want to go back? In the few popular red states, folks end up going back to blue portions like (like Austin/Houston, Texas or Miami, Florida). You folks are jokes.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt February 18, 2014 at 9:32 pm

Scott is a BINO. How else do you explain him aligning with the GOP (Grand Old white People) in S.C. with such stellar leaders in race relations as Strom Thurmond and “Pitchfork” Ben Tillman.

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get a life February 19, 2014 at 2:08 am

A “BINO” how fucking deluded can one person get – I’m going to go out on a limbuagh and say he’s actually black in fact. Can’t stand his policies, his positions or his shallow tripe platitudes where he uses talking points for everything from greetings to voting to press releases and anything else – but he is black.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein February 19, 2014 at 8:17 am

“…with such stellar leaders in race relations as Strom Thurmond…”

Heh.
To quote the man, himself… Ol’Strom had “deep roots in the black community.”

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CL February 19, 2014 at 8:22 am

Oh yes, that famous Republican Ben Tillman. And the irony of a Democrat questioning how black people could ever vote for a party with a dark history of civil rights violations is just too perfect, not that you are knowledgeable enough to understand why.

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inciteful February 19, 2014 at 12:07 pm

Umm,…er,,,,’scuse me massa but Ben Tillman was a Democrat.

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CL February 19, 2014 at 12:37 pm

That was my point. I thought the sarcasm was obvious. Especially when I go on to hit the poster for not knowing which party has the disgraceful civil rights record.

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 12:50 pm

which party has the disgraceful civil rights record.
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We kept the migration of the racists to the Republican party after Johnson’s “great society” a secret from the stupid people.

We put it in history books where they would never look.

CL February 19, 2014 at 1:54 pm

I must admit, nothing rankles more than the unearned snark of the ignorant. The migration you talk about was basically complete before Johnson became president. The breakup of the South as a Democratic voting block began cracking with the New Deal and was fractured by the time Eisenhower was president. Eisenhower won a plurality of the Southern vote in 1956. I know the destructive power of the Great Society was immense, but I had no idea it could travel backwards in time.

Can you name any Democratic segregationist politician that joined the GOP other than Strom? George Wallace, Robert Byrd, Ross Barnett, each remained a Democrat til he drew his last breath. Yet Democrats just repeat this talking point without ever proving it. As Mencken noted, “The most common of all follies is to believe passionately in the palpably not true.”

http://www.nationalreview.com/articles/300432/party-civil-rights-kevin-d-williamson

http://www.powerlineblog.com/archives/2013/04/the-southern-strategy-debunked-again.php

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:15 pm

I must admit, nothing is quite as irritating as the unearned snark of the ignorant.

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Yes there is – Republicans.

CL February 19, 2014 at 2:32 pm

I imagine having your ignorance pointed out to you is irritating.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:33 pm

Try it, and we’ll see.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:43 pm

The migration you talk about was basically complete before Johnson became president.

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Did it take place before the history of the party was pertinent to current events?

CL February 19, 2014 at 3:03 pm

Pertinent as defined by whom? What does that even mean? I suspect you define pertinent to mean that which supports your silly attacks and impertinent as anything that contradicts them.

But I would take the Republican Party’s record on the subject over the Democratic Party’s record any day of the week. The fact that you feel compelled to, pardon the pun, whitewash history by trying to recast the Democratic Party’s segregationist past as somehow being attributable to the GOP indicates that, in your heart of hearts, you know I am right.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 3:32 pm

Pertinent as defined by whom? What does that even mean?

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The essay on this will be due one week from today – “Compare and contrast the racism previous to the civil rights act in the Democratic party to that of the Republican Party today.” Please use demographics, statistics and voter political self-identification to support your points.

Next essay will be on the effect of racism on the perception and psychology of those being oppressed – education, segregation and resulting opportunity.

Jay Ellington February 19, 2014 at 11:44 pm

Are you capable of speaking in anything but ad hominem?

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 1:18 am

I can speak in English in a pinch.

GrandTango February 19, 2014 at 8:36 am

It’s funny (not really) that you leftwing Race-Haters have to go back to Ancient History to find your demons…while your Bigots and Haters are in the White House or preaching, present day, and manning voter precincts to intimidate white people…

Race hate is WRONG and immoral no matter who is doing it. If you take Dr. King at his word, he’d be disgusted w/ the democrat party and your bitter hatred for the people who freed you, when you would not, or did not do it for yourself.

You are an absolute disgrace to humanity. You are as filthy as Hitler or Malcolm X…You do nothing but evil and damage. And when it flips on you…you will deserve every lash delivered upon your diseased souls.

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 12:49 pm

It’s funny (not really) that you leftwing Race-Haters have to go back to Ancient History to find your demons
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It’s a good thing you’re above that

You are as filthy as Hitler or Malcolm X.
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QED

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:34 am

Without power, there can be no racism… the Jews hated the Nazis – were they racist?

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CL February 19, 2014 at 8:18 am

This is nonsense from start to finish. Skinheads in this country have no power, or certainly less power than the press. So the “logical” conclusion of your argument would be that skinheads are not racist. Obviously that strips the concept of any meaning whatsoever. Your claim is also incredibly patronizing to and infantilizing of black people, who you suggest are powerless (in a country where the president is black, for goodness sakes).

And I am sure many of the Jews persecuted by the Nazis came to hate their oppressors, but it had nothing to do with their race or nationality. So your statement is either a complete non sequitur or a slander (if you are really claiming Jews hated Nazis as stand ins for white protestants or Germans generally).

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 12:48 pm

And I am sure many of the Jews persecuted by the Nazis came to hate their oppressors

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Thank you for your acute insight.

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CL February 19, 2014 at 2:06 pm

I take it you are unfamiliar with The Sunflower: On the Possibilities and Limits of Forgiveness by Simon Wiesenthal, which addresses the complicated moral issue of whether Jews should forgive the crimes committed against them by the Nazis. There is no easy answer, except to those of limited intellectual and moral development. But however you answer that question, your simplistic statement that “the Jews hated the Nazis” is certainly not universally true. There are many instances of grace and forgiveness among survivors that I doubt I could match if placed in similar circumstances.

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euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:14 pm

“the Jews hated the Nazis”

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Let’s be more specific – the Jews in the concentration camps.

CL February 19, 2014 at 2:52 pm

It is still too reductionist to say all camp prisoners were filled with hate towards their captors. But I am glad you felt the need to be more specific, it shows your understand that your initial sarcasm was misplaced.

The complexity of this issue is well captured in The Sunflower, which is about Wiesenthal’s time in a camp. He was being forced to tend to a dying German soldier who asked Wiesenthal for forgiveness for specific atrocities the soldier had committed against other Jews. Wiesenthal was kind to the soldier, holding his hand and swatting away a fly that was irritating the dying man, but ultimately Wiesenthal walked away without offering any forgiveness. But he was immediately conflicted and asked his fellow inmates (i.e. while still in the camp) whether he had done the right thing. Their response was not “f*** the Nazis.” It was, essentially, “who are you to speak for the dead and offer forgiveness for what he did to them?”

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 2:53 pm

It is still too reductionist to say all camp prisoners were filled with hate towards their captors.

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Case in point – the smiling fellow at the top of this article.

CL February 19, 2014 at 3:12 pm

“since there were Jews who didn’t – that makes the Nazis less culpable and deserving of hatred, scorn and historical condemnation… ”

Are you drunk, stupid or just a liar? I never said anything remotely like this.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 3:24 pm

Are you drunk, stupid or just a liar?

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false choice. Can’t I be all three?

All of your caterwauling about how many Jews hated the Nazis is *so* pertinent to the analogy of blacks who resent whites for racism being itself called racism… notwithstanding the pathetic whining about “reverse racism.”

Vaguely reminiscent of the rich victims of the jealously of the poor.

Oh.. and the “historical” racism of the Democratic party migrating into the Republican party having no effect on policy – good luck with that, immigration man… or should I say food-stamp man?

CL February 19, 2014 at 4:18 pm

Apparently you can be all three. Caterwauling? You are the one who started snarking about my use of the phrase “many Jews” as opposed to your attempt to speak for all Jewish people. You have as much as conceded the point in your follow ups, but keep rambling if it makes you feel better.

Oh make no mistake, the Democratic Party is still plenty racist. Look at its treatment of black people who do not toe the party line. The Democrats had a stated policy of opposing minority and female judicial appointments under Bush (see Supreme Conflict by Jan Crawford, an ABC legal correspondent, for the dirty details). That is racism in its purest form.

The supposed racism of the Republican Party is another liberal myth that can be supported only from tendentious arguments of disparate impact from facially neutral policies. But using that logic, Democrats still come out looking like Bull Connor. “Progressive” policies have had a profoundly damaging impact on minorites. As Thomas Sowell has noted, the Great Society did what Jim Crow never could – cause the “disintegration of the black family, which survived centuries of slavery and generations of government-imposed discrimination in the Jim Crow era, but began coming apart in the wake of the expansion of the liberal welfare state and its accompanying social dogmas.” http://townhall.com/columnists/thomassowell/2012/03/20/race_and_rhetoric/page/full

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 4:24 pm

Apparently you can be all three.

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I wouldn’t want to disappoint you. I’m sure you’re accustomed to all three.

Oh make no mistake, the Democratic Party is still plenty racist. Look at its treatment of black people who do not toe the party line.

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Take food stamps, or we’ll make you shine our shoes! Send you back to Africa, you ungrateful, tennis-shoe-buying, welfare queens! Know your place, and don’t walk through our neighborhoods, or we’ll shoot you with our liberal pistols.

CL February 19, 2014 at 5:15 pm

As Clarence Thomas said, the worst treatment he has received in his life was at the hands of Northern liberals. Coming from someone who grew up in the segregated South (where he suffered under a different set of Democrats), that is disturbing. But I’m sure you know more about racism than he does.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 5:52 pm

As Clarence Thomas said, the worst treatment he has received in his life was at the hands of Northern liberals.

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Good old Clarence… Mark Thurman is another one abused by Northern liberals.

CL February 20, 2014 at 1:22 pm

Afraid I am not familiar with a Mark Thurman. Friend of yours?

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 4:01 pm

Afraid I am not familiar with a Mark Thurman. Friend of yours?

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I have no idea who he is. But, apparently, Northern liberals, whoever they are, abused him terribly.

CL February 20, 2014 at 5:38 pm

Wouldn’t be the first or the last, whoever he is.

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 5:47 pm

Those damned Northern Liberals will abuse anyone who even remotely *sounds* like a racist!

That’s the problem, racists don’t get an even break in this country anymore!

CL February 20, 2014 at 7:28 pm

Actually, they do, as Thomas pointed out they get a total pass by calling themselves liberals, which frees them up to act in the most illiberal ways.

euwe max February 21, 2014 at 10:33 am

Woo hoo! We’re talking now!

The Republican mantra:
“I’m rubber and you’re glue, bounces off me and sticks to you!”

“Coopting liberal messages and blaming the victim since 1967!”

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 5:53 pm

But I’m sure you know more about racism than he does.

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More about racism than Clarence Thomas?????

No one knows more about it than him.. except maybe you of course.

CL February 19, 2014 at 8:47 pm

I don’t believe I’ve ever seen someone post so frequently without ever feeling the need to make anything approaching a cogent point.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 8:53 pm

Don’t give up. You might be able to read one of my messages, and understand the content, if you go into seclusion with Tibetan monks, and take a vow of silence for a year or so….

Life is like a beanstalk, my son.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 4:25 pm

The supposed racism of the Republican Party is another liberal myth

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Yeah… Republicans love Mexicans and blacks – if they’re wearing a suit.

CL February 19, 2014 at 5:12 pm

I prefer not to reduce people to physical traits. While I know that is hard for you to understand, I prefer to judge a person for the content of their character.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 8:59 pm

So I don’t love or hate “blacks” or “Mexicans.”

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or white boys.. or nazis… or..

Do you think it’s genetic? and is it better referred to as sociopathy or pychopathy?

CL February 20, 2014 at 7:41 am

You prove the point. To you, anyone who disagrees must be a bad person or crazy. I know it is not your fault, it is just your limited moral worldview and your inability to process things outside your narrow values. But it does make things a bit bothersome for those of us who prefer a more mature discussion. Have fun with your imaginary Nazis.

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 8:21 am

You prove the point
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yep.

CL February 19, 2014 at 4:22 pm

I note you were not unable to support your BS claim that I was apologizing for Nazis. If you have a shred of intellectual honesty, this might be good time to admit that you made that up.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 4:39 pm

I note you were not unable to support your BS claim that I was apologizing for Nazis.

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Thanks for noticing. Your claim that all Jews didn’t hate Nazis was a great addition to our conversation… I have a tendency to make a blanket statement about Nazis that includes them all!

The complexity of analyzing the psyche of those Nazis that might not have been culpable for the oppression of the Jews… too much for my feeble mind.

CL February 19, 2014 at 5:10 pm

” Your claim that all Jews didn’t hate Nazis was a great addition to our conversation…”

I didn’t introduce that subject. You objected to my use of the phrase “many Jews,” so I had to defend its accuracy. But keep spinning your bs.

“the complexity of analyzing the psyche of those Nazis that might not have been culpable for the oppression of the Jews… too much for my feeble mind”

More bs. I never made any distinctions among Nazis. That is solely a product of your imagination, which apparently is quite fertile. You have created an entirely fictitious exchange between us so you can have some strawmen to attack.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 5:54 pm

I didn’t introduce that subject. You objected to my use of the phrase “many Jews,” so I had to defend its accuracy.

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of course you did. Your integrity was on the line!

CL February 20, 2014 at 7:36 am

No, just felt like puncturing your unearned smugness given the inaccuracy of what you wrote, a point you have now conceded.

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 8:20 am

No, just felt like puncturing your unearned smugness

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so how is that working out for you?

CL February 20, 2014 at 1:18 pm

Pretty well, since you conceded the point you were snarking about.

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 3:59 pm

I thought your claim to fame was not getting it because there was nothing to get.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 5:55 pm

More bs. I never made any distinctions among Nazis. That is solely a product of your imagination, which apparently is quite fertile. You have created an entirely fictitious exchange between us so you can have some strawmen to attack.

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I thought you were objecting to the width of my brush.. no?

CL February 20, 2014 at 7:35 am

You were painting with to broad a brush, about Jewish people. You have now repeatedly lied and claimed I was somehow drawing distinctions among Nazis. But I should not be surprised. You cannot make an actual point, so you have nothing else to offer than lies.

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 8:18 am

You were painting with to broad a brush, about Jewish people.

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You mean my simple statement that Jews who hated Nazis were not racist? Yes, that was met with the white irises and cloudy pupils of the dead.

In order to disable the analogy, you “cleverly” sought to attack the size of the brush I used – for the Jews, but not the Nazis.

You can’t understand the simplest of analogies, and complicate every aspect of communication to make admitting it as difficult as possible,

But hey. I understand completely. It’s important to you not to “get it.” Deliberate ignorance is nothing new, and it’s not very sophisticated.

You’re just a poor victim of mean old liberals, having your sensitive nose tweaked in public, when all you ever wanted was people to accept you as a crypto bully.

CL February 20, 2014 at 9:15 am

Spare me the sanctimonious nonsense about how I do not get your idiotic analogy. There is nothing to get. Even if every Jew everywhere hated Nazis with a universal and undying passion, it has nothing to do with racism because there is no evidence to support the notion that Jewish people hated Nazis because of their race.

If you want to slander them by suggesting otherwise, then prove it. But you are not kidding either of us by pretending there is something I am missing or by again trying to mischaracterize how the discussion proceeded.

I did not avoid your analogy or try to disable anything. I directly pointed out the obvious and idiotic flaw in your “logic” that would require us to conclude skinheads in this country were not racist (which you still have not addressed in these countless, pointless posts of yours). It was you that tried to change the subject by quibbling about my word choice. That did not end well for you either, since you conceded the point.

At some point, you just need to realize how pitiful you sound and stop trying to salvage your undeserved intellectual vanity.

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 10:47 am

Spare me the sanctimonious nonsense about how I do not get your idiotic analogy. There is nothing to get.
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I have only begun to sanct. Saying there’s nothing to get is just another way to say you don’t get it. Claiming nothing is there is just something to say so you don’t have to admit it.

Trick number one. Lookest thou over there. Thus endeth the trick.

there is no evidence to support the notion that Jewish people hated Nazis because of their race.
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my point was hating one’s oppressor isn’t racism. If Nazis claimed Jews were racist because they resented the holocaust, they couldn’t be right, because Jews were not in power during the holocaust, no matter what else may have been the case. You’re just beginning to admit that hatred because of oppression can’t be converted to racism.

White people aren’t a pure race, neither are blacks, the Nazis, or the Jews.

We call it racism when a group in power oppresses another group because of recognizable racial characteristics. It makes no sense for the oppressor to call his victims racist because they hate him.

CL February 20, 2014 at 11:51 am

“my point was hating one’s oppressor isn’t racism. If Nazis claimed Jews were racist because they resented the holocaust, they couldn’t be right, because Jews were not in power during the holocaust, no matter what else may have been the case.”

No, its not racism because the Jews in this example don’t give a crap about the color of the folks ushering them into a gas chamber.

“We call it racism when a group in power oppresses another group because of recognizable racial characteristics.”

No, that is not the definition of racism, it is an example of racism. The Oxford English Dictionary defines racism as “the belief that all members of each race possess characteristics or abilities specific to that race, especially so as to distinguish it as inferior or superior to another race or races.”

Nary a mention of power. Check any mainstream dictionary and you will see that it is belief that is the touchstone of racism, not power. You are wrong. Just admit it. You’ll feel better.

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 4:03 pm

No, its not racism because the Jews in this example don’t give a crap about the color of the folks ushering them into a gas chamber.

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The color? The “master race” did not identify themselves solely by color, neither is race mainly concerned with color (despite what pappy may have told you). and the point I made is that hating the “master race” because of oppression would not be racism – even if color were their main claim to fame.

CL February 20, 2014 at 5:22 pm

“The color? The “master race” did not identify themselves solely by color, neither is race mainly concerned with color (despite what pappy may have told you). ”

I was unaware of the vast number of non-white Aryans. I also never realized racists did not care about skin color. Please tell me more. I expected you to try to change the subject again, but this is pathetic even for you. You can call me or my father whatever moronic insults you can dream up, but that does not change the fact that you are still advocating a definition of racism that excludes Adolph Hitler while he was dictating Mein Kampf in prison.

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 5:23 pm

I was unaware of the vast number of non-white Aryans.

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You seem to also be unaware that race is not exclusively concerned with color.

CL February 20, 2014 at 5:28 pm

“I’m afraid you are also unaware that race is not exclusively concerned with color.”

I never said that, and you are still trying to change the subject.

euwe max February 20, 2014 at 5:44 pm

The subject is, if the racist who oppresses is in power (as the Nazis were), then the hate of the oppressed (in this case the Jews) is not racism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH5_uREXkjM

Your whining about the size of the brush I used notwithstanding.

CL February 20, 2014 at 7:27 pm

Show me a single definition in a credible dictionary that adds at the end “unless those beliefs are directed at a group with greater power.” Hitler believed a Jewish conspiracy was oppressing him, so he still gets to avoid being a racist under your made up definition.

euwe max February 21, 2014 at 10:38 am

Show me a single definition in a credible dictionary that adds at the end “unless those beliefs are directed at a group with greater power.” Hitler believed a Jewish conspiracy was oppressing him, so he still gets to avoid being a racist under your made up definition.

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Damn, you’re dumb!

If there *was* a Jewish conspiracy in power, oppressing him, then his anger towards them would not qualify as racism.

But even so, once he was in power and oppressed *them*, he was a racist, and their anger towards him for his oppression would not quality.

Because, you splooge-gargling bottle squatter, if you are powerless under oppression, your oppressor is the bad guy!

CL February 21, 2014 at 1:42 pm

I must be missing in your post the dictionary cite I asked for. When you post it, can you flesh out the exact moment when Hitler was eligible to be considered a racist. Silly me, going my whole life thinking he was pretty much one his whole life. Darned SC public schools.

And there is still the tiny problem with your made up definition that we would pretty much have to have passed this mystical rite of passage where a black person can be considered racist, given that a black man is running the country and all. So your original argument is still refuted, just by you this time instead of me.

euwe max February 24, 2014 at 5:27 pm

I must be missing in your post the dictionary cite I asked for.
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You have that confused with brain cells.

the exact moment when Hitler was eligible to be considered a racist?
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The exact moment that his race had the power to oppress the Jews, and began to implement that oppression.

Darned SC public schools.
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I blame your parents.

mystical rite of passage where a black person can be considered racist, given that a black man is running the country and all.
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a man isn’t *the* race, he *belongs to* a race. Being president doesn’t make you a race leader. Sorry I had to say all this stuff in front of your fans. I hope they don’t start avoiding you.

euwe max February 19, 2014 at 3:02 am

You know they went after King
When he spoke out on Vietnam
He turned the power to the have-nots
And then came the shot

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Smirks February 19, 2014 at 8:10 am

Why do people watch cable news? It’s trash. MSNBC and Fox consist of heavy propaganda and CNN is better at covering celebrity news than anything else. Calling cable news journalism is like calling Here Comes Honey Boo Boo a gripping documentary for highly intelligent viewers.

Oh, wait, I get it. Honey Boo Boo fans are the kind of lowest common denominators who watch cable news. Carry on.

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Gregory Geddings February 19, 2014 at 9:10 am

Charleston’s Bill Walsh, WCSC TV 5 weatherman took a news team to Georgia to do a story on Honey Boo Boo complete with interviews with her mom and little boo boo herself. Talk about B.S. Great stuff for a photoshop piece, however…

http://2big2fall.wordpress.com/2012/11/02/bill-walsh-interviews-honey-boo-boo/

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Elfego February 19, 2014 at 10:17 am

I do not know who Honey Boo Boo is but you seem to!

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venomachine February 19, 2014 at 10:31 am

As bad as cable news is, network news is worse.

Of course with cable news, you have to listen to a bunch of bobbleheads yelling at each other.

There really isn’t much ‘real news/journalism’ out there today.

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Nölff February 19, 2014 at 10:44 am

Hell, You’ve praised Bakari Sellers a few times.

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Mexican jumping bean February 19, 2014 at 11:43 am

I’m not a racist, I just hate niggers.

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Barry1234 February 19, 2014 at 8:43 pm

Craig Melvin isn’t a journalist. He’s a talking head now. He’s paid to insert his opinions into his “interviews” on MSNBC. He’d be fired at any local station for that those types of interviews.

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west_rhino February 20, 2014 at 10:34 am

The spirit of Jezebel is alive and well in the left, ask Shirley Q. Liquors…

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idiotwind February 20, 2014 at 3:51 pm

tim scott is insincere.

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Arlen Cooper February 23, 2014 at 11:19 am

The Liberals dislike black Conservatives as bad as Conservatives dislike interracial marriage. Don’t ya reckon?

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