HARVEY PEELER SAYS CHAMBER HAS BECOME “DYSFUNCTIONAL”
|| By FITSNEWS || South Carolina’s “Republican” leader in the S.C. Senate called on the chamber’s president to step down from his leadership role – arguing he was spreading himself too thin by simultaneously occupying two key positions within the body.
Harvey Peeler – the Senate’s “majority” leader – called on liberal “Republican” Hugh Leatherman to resign as president of the chamber, claiming his dual role as president and chairman of the chamber’s budget-writing finance committee had resulted in a leadership vacuum and “dysfunction” within the Senate.
Leatherman, a former Democrat from Florence, S.C., was elected president of the State Senate last summer – with only two lawmakers (S.C. Senators Tom Davis and Shane Massey) voting against him.
At the time of his ascension to the post (accomplished via this shady deal), the 83-year-old was already arguably the most powerful elected official in the state.
Absolute power hasn’t been all it’s cracked up to be, though. In addition to his ongoing health issues, Leatherman’s heavy-handed tactics (including an effort to take control over the chamber’s calendar) have rubbed many of his old liberal “Republican” allies the wrong way.
As a result, Leatherman was unable to rely on his governing coalition of Democrats and liberal “Republicans” this session – paving the way for fiscal conservatives like Davis to successfully filibuster his fiscally reckless proposals.
Frankly, we see such dysfunction as a good thing … especially if it prevents the perpetuation of bad policy.
Unfortunately, it also stops good policy … assuming the S.C. General Assembly ever produces any. Last time we checked, though, the chamber was having tremendous difficulty finding its own hindquarters with both hands.
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What’s a “republican”?
It’s a Republican whom Fits ,a Republican himself,doesn’t like.
Are there any in the state house that he does like?
no, but he is in love with carpetbagger Davis.
I like Davis – does that make me a “carpetbagger’? I don’t agree with him on all issues, but many – why diss on him on this thread? FFS?
He not only is, but acts just like a carpetbagger. He ain’t from here, was trained by Sanfraud and thinks he knows what is best for we poor dumb natives. He is as phony as Sanfraud.
well I “ain’t from here” either, but I’ve lived here several years, a couple children born here and a husband born here. I guess I am about as dumb as Davis – (eyeroll to the right), Sc does rank great in almost every category that we have born and bred residents. By all means, don’t let facts interfere.
He might like them more if there was a balance of power, but that would take all the fun out of it – what could we possibly gripe about?
Fits is far from a Republican. Heck I am barely a Republican and we don’t have the same views.
I’m a Republican, and I only agree with Will about two thirds of the time.
Buz! You know fc is going to attack now – he is the ONLY Republican on this site-ha!
MavisSquires • 4 years ago
You are just full of yourself Buz. I know you do not like me much or care what I say but you still need to know that nobody cares what you think and that is why so many people have taken you of their facebook friend list or blocked you. you spout of conspiracy theorys but no proof of any of your crazy charges. you bore us.
Does Mandy pay you to slobber over her & her big boobies on hre? bet not as you would do it for free I’m sure. why don’t you put her in one of your crappy burlesk shows? She would be perfect for that sleaze. oh but didn’t you write on here that all of the bars where you did your shows have closed down even the 1 in Columbia? maybe there is a message in that for you? You suck as a standup comedian & I hear your girly shows suck too.
You two get a room!You and Buz.
Mavis Squires is dead, pogo. Her ugly finally did her in.
Have you no shame, man? Have you no shame?
This person has comments saved from over four years ago to use against you, and is using the comments of people who passed away? Damn, I’m not kidding when I say Pogo needs a mental health evaluation, not kidding at all.
Funny that he puts up a comment saying no one cares what you think, obviously Pogo cares if he held onto it for four damn years! That’s a disturbing obsession. Do you know who this person is in real life? You might need to get a restraining order and keep a gun under your pillow, no telling when he will bust through your door.
Hmmm… I just found it on another thread on FitsNews.Appears only place it has been SAVED for four years is on FitsNews.
The fact that you are using that as an excuse to go digging through four years worth of comments to find dirt on Buzz is a testament to your deranged, psychotic obsession with the guy. You are a nasty and sad person. Get help somewhere!
Fact is, I don’t know whether or not Mavis is still alive. That was just me trying to shame pogo. I mean, as though he were a normal human being who could be shamed. He wowed that he would dig up all of my old posts that he could when I rejected his “offer” of a “truce” recently. He likely saw that post from Mavis in the process of doing that.
I suppose there really are several reasons I could sue pogo. One is stating that I’m a “welfare” sponge. I could prove in court that I am on no form of public assistance, even though I’m entitled to it, under law. He’s just parroting dishonest, defamatory shit that was said about me by some of the asshole on the old “SNOB” forum. He really knows nothing at all about me.
“He wowed that he would dig up all of my old posts that he could”
That is the kind of stuff I would expect an abusive ex-husband to do to harass someone, or maybe a stalker or serial killer keeping clippings on a bulletin board in their basement that has anything to do about their prey. I have a feeling a psychologist would have a field day with this guy.
I have no idea how that comment is relevant to me? I don’t know who MavisSquires is or how this applies. I don’t dislike Mande as a person, but I am no fan of her political positions.
You are a lowlife socialist, welfare sponging bum that supported Green Peace Marxist Gloria Tinabu.
You are pro-abortion, for gay marriage and hate Christians.
I call other people socialist but beg Haley to raise our taxes! I love taxes, more more more, but I’m not a liberal, you are! LMAO!!! LMAO!!!
What he calls your average every day Republican in an attempt to make it look like Republicans aren’t almost universally like that.
Democrat in Action Most Notably and Republican in Name Only in other words a DAMN RINO! See Jeb Bush, Chris Christie, Hugh Letterman, Bobby Harrell, etc.
Now that Game of Thrones has had its finale it is appropriate that South Carolina’s version, Game of Blattaria , cranks up its new season
It is always of upmost interest when one Blattaria sticks his head out from under the toilet seat and singles out another Blattaria
Either Peeler has an inside source feeding him Leatherpecker’s medical records or he has lost his fucking mind
Either way no sleep is to be lost when one Mother Fucking Cockroach attempts to bite off another Mother Fucking Cockroach’s balls
Do cockroaches really have balls? I’ve never looked — and I’m not going to either!
Leatherman knows that he is handling the two positions legally. His big buddy Jeal Toal has already said it was okay. They protect each other.
So Peeler is applying pressure for Leatherman to have to make a choice … Committee or Senate President. And who is in line to take over the committee? The “honorable” Mr. Peeler. He always looks out for himself but positions it so that it looks like he’s only looking out for us. If you think Leatherman is bad, just wait for Peeler to take over.
Amen to that!
Peeler just wants the position. Leatherman isn’t resigning his position until he stops shitting in his pants, and at that point they’ll be hauling him out feet first.
HE NEEDS TO RETIRE!
They all do.
LOL – you must be watching Grimm?
“Shady Pines” = “Golden Girls” reference.
“Keep that up, and you’re going back to Shady Pines, Ma!” was an oft-repeated threat that Bea Arthur’s Dorothy made to her mother, Estelle Geddy’s Sophia.
Peeler detests Leatherman and the air he breaths. Peeler wants to be Chairman of Finance Committee so bad it is an obsession with him. His desires , in my opinion, are for self serving nefarious purposes. He is a vindictive, immoral narcissistic cretin, who I’ve had the displeasure of dealing and working with many times.. I heard his brother, Bragg many times, when running for Governor, how he and Harvey would rule State, Budget and Comtrol Bd. would pay. Don’t really care for Leatherman( but anything Leatherman is, Peeler is a100 Times worse.
Then why can’t they elect someone else? I thought that position was a vote?
If you attempt a coup d’etat and fail, you will be severely punished by Leatherman et al.
Your district won’t see another state funded dime as long as you are in office, there will be a well funded attempt to “primary” you in the next election with support from establishment money and the ethics process will likely be used against you. Wouldn’t be unheard of to have a 2 AM knock on the door by SLED “investigating” your campaign finances for several election cycles.
That is an interesting theory, but I suppose only a theory until they come knocking on your door. There is always a higher power. SLED should have good info before knocking on any door, if they proven wrong…. I don’t think even SLED wants that.
The problem is there is good information on all of them. It’s almost impossible to run and win without violating ethics and/or campaign finance laws. In the same way it’s almost impossible to drive over 1 mile without violating some traffic law.
If I were in office, I would make my best effort not to turn a darn thing in, unless I knew by IRS code I could write it off, even then with hesitation.
SC Constitution is riddled and one of the longest in the US. For good reason, but it needs to be refreshed -I know we have many constitutionalist who don’t favor that, but all one needs to do is a little research to realize it is ineffective. Too lengthy.
We have many laws on the books that no one understands, legislators don’t even know they still exist until citizens complain. Ethics laws are a joke, it takes someone challenging them to change them – that is one of many why I like this site and SCPC.
Your comment is FALSE…about the SC Constitution being one of the ‘longest’ in the US. It is 44th.
http://knowledgecenter.csg.org/kc/system/files/bos_1943_5.pdf
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Your reference is at least 55 years old, because it doesn’t include Alaska or Hawaii. Don’t know how reliable Wikipedia is but it has to be better. From 44th to one of the longest since 1968 is not good.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitution_of_South_Carolina
I have researched the same and come up with the same results. At one time decided I was going to read the SC constitution – arrrgh! What a disaster.
Wiki also has references that can validate that information.
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That is sweet.You two progressive socialists make a nice couple. :)
I heard them bragging too. Thank God the people of SC showed that adulterous brother Bob Peeler what they thought of him.
They are both pathetic pond scum.
Leatherman is 83. When is enough enough ?
When they carry him down the granite steps at Main and Gervais feet first. He’s got too much to hide to leave office.
Exactly. Just like Jimmy Metts! These crooks stay in office so they have power over anyone who knows enough to send their worthless, crooked, asses to prison.
In Jimmy’s case, he waited too long to get out and is going to prison, anyway. maybe Hugh will get a taste of the same.
Thurmond comes to mind….
Thurmond wasn’t really hiding anything. His daughter illegitimate daughter was the worst kept secret in South Carolina. His constitute service was second to none and he took care of South Carolina when it came to making sure our little state received our fair share of federal money.
You are absolutely correct. He excelled at constituent services. And in his later years there was no bias in the way it was applied. He, like Olin D. Johnson, was of the old school as far as being truly responsive to the needs of constituents was concerned. Doesn’t really happen these days at all, that any of them respond to helping just plain folks, rather than just the wealthy elite who contribute to their campaigns. True of most “Representatives” as well. Both in DC and in Columbia.
Lawton Chiles (Florida) was a good one for that. He was one of the last Democrats I have voted for except for a few here and there. Last guy I can remember that made you feel like he really cared.
TRUE
That’s only around election time, when they are actively looking for campaign funds. Even if you do contribute – they forget your name the minute you do until election time. Unless of course you are a PAC.
Ole Strom helped my Dad in a situation at a position he had after retiring from Ft. Jax. Dad voted Democratic his entire life with the exception to Strom for helping him.
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Thurmond wasn’t squeaky clean and was way too old in the end. I do think he served his time well, most loved him enough to keep electing him, but I think his time was really up long before he gave up.
I also find it interesting that he did have a big racial daughter, while he put on the pretense of racism. I saw her interview, he was apparently good to her, but why he never really took a stand? I guess he knew he wouldn’t win?
No. He finally came around on civil rights, but there was absolutely no indication he cared about such things earlier in his career. If fact, he famously actively opposed civil rights laws.
Having a clandestine sexual relationship with a black woman was not unusual at all for white men of his era — just as had been the case in the antebellum years. Most, however, we not as mobile as he, in taking care of the offspring of such couplings.
Hmmm….”In the 1960s, he opposed the civil rights legislation of 1964 and 1965 to end segregation and enforce the constitutional rights of African-American citizens, including suffrage. He always insisted he had never been a racist, but was opposed to excessive federal authority. He attributed the movement to practice constitutional rights to Communist agitators.[5] In 1948, Thurmond stated:
“all the laws of Washington and all the bayonets of the Army cannot force the Negro into our homes, into our schools, our churches and our places of recreation and amusement.”[5]”
https://en.wikipedia.org/?title=Strom_Thurmond
That’s right. He very much felt that way at that point. Of course, we don’t know whether the screwed the mother of his illegitimate child in her home, his, or someone else. Pretty sure there were no bayonets involved.
LOL – I doubt there were bayonets involved.
I checked property records around I-20 through Aiken county etc. and guess who owned lots of the property it ran through? Dear old Strom.
Not surprising at all. He was old by the time I moved to SC, but still being elected. I have no idea how he even had the mental faculties to vote on legislation by the end of his term.
Someone buy the old fucker an prostitute that will fuck him to death.
Hire a prostitute that specializes in “poo fetish” so as she’s riding his ass into the river Styx she doesn’t mind him shitting himself.
It’s a dirty job, but rest assured it can be done if the right women is hired; obviously it won’t be cheap.
We just got rid of GrandTango, don’t you start with that crap.
Hmmm. 83? Harvey Peeler? ‘Nuff said.
I seem to remember a story recently about Harvey Peeler giving his research assistant an tremendous raise . There were many postings about she and Peeler and a, not so, religious relationship. Now, he wants to be Senate Chairman, or Finance Chairman. Can we imagine the raises that the women of questionable morals may receive on the taxpayers back. Just like his brother Bob Peeler, who was caught with one of his married campaign workers! How was she handsomely paid? Yea, another Peeler, just what we need!
Postings? Is that all you got. There was more on Nikki, but nothing credible.
You obviously do not know the Peelers. They are sickening bunch!
In Gaffney and Lexington. Look at their close friends and party group:
Randy Halfacre (shamed and rejected mayor) Joe Owens( rejected and rebuked Mayor ) Danny Frazier (rebuked criminal Councilman) Jimmy Metts (criminal disgraced Sheriff) Jason Amodio (disgraced criminal Chief of Police). What’s the old saying “Birds of a Feather” and “you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas”.
You appear obsessed with the Peelers. If you feel that strongly about them why not take your chicken shit ass and confront them FACE TO FACE.
Na.You won’t do that.It is much easier for a chicken shit like yourself to hide behind your keyboard and put forward false allegations about individuals and their families.
Get some help.You appear to be dangerous.
Kind of like you are obsessed with SYNTwist and Buzz, eh flip/pogo?
I’ve never really understand his fixation on me. I’m starting to think it is because our interaction via this site, is the closest he can get to talking to someone of the opposite sex. It doesn’t seem to matter that I look like a pineapple.
His fixation with various people on this board should raise questions. He has severe mental issues, no doubt about it. Don’t underestimate what crazy people will do.
He is about 11 shy of a dozen. He does seem unstable. I can’t imagine anyone spending the amount of time he does dredging up old comments. To be frank, several times a week, I consider deleting my account permanently, because I don’t underestimate crazy. Most of the people on this site make conversation interesting, fc on the other hand seems a little more calculating – always collecting data on others.
You just made me paranoid as hell, I am not sure if that was your intent, but I am deleting my Disqus. fc can have it.
You obviously don’t know them, or you are them!
What keyboard and alias are you hiding behind dipshit!
You must be a “chicken shit” coward!
I have never been more satisfied with government on the national or state level, than when GRIDLOCK reigns supreme.
Leatherman is playing chess while you folks are playing checkers. You don’t even know that he has gotten a great deal of what he wanted already.
Watch this week, and watch the master work his magic. He will get more of what he wants because he fellow members of the general assembly are whores just waiting to be bought.
The important work is done behind the scenes. That crook Leatherman has his people all over state government and they are milking the place dry. While we watch the filibuster, he is making his cronies and himself rich.
The Chamber of Commerce is the organization that is trying to get all these illegals in here to do work that Americans on welfare and food stamps refuse to do because it is above their dignity. I am for helping anyone who will help themselves but this Democrat Project that Lyndon Johnson started has almost destroyed America. I came up dirt poor and have never asked the government for anything I did not work for!
America has become a nation of lazy uninformed and or ignorant people!
Can you include Loftis in the conversation about resigning? He sucks.
The FBI is closing in.. Talking to a lot of people. Just a matter of time. Loftis should resign now. It will be very difficult to lie under oath and not tell the all truth. Very embarrassing for Curt… He has pissed off too many. He will get what he deserves… soon.
Peeler properly diagnosed the disease (dysfunction) but he misdiagnosed the cause. The honorable men and women who have and do serve in the senate chamber have never lowered themselves to a level of personal attack on another member from the senate floor to promote their own self interest and egomania like he did yesterday. Vern Smith cut a flip in his grave. While Leatherman’s plate may be full, he understands and can explain in detail everything that is on it which is something Peeler has never and will never be able to do. God help us IF he ever gets to the place where Leatherman is. All you have to do is take a look at the dysfunctional senate republican caucus to see what a disaster that day will be. Yesterday’s spectacle showed a true lack of character and leadership on Peeler’s part. Perhaps he should step aside.
Amen! Peeler would be a self serving, skirt chasing disaster. He is a vindictive, low life snake!
Watch him sometime, he is NOT smart, has trouble enunciating his thoughts and position on issues, pitiful.
Fits once said in an article, (paraphrase) “If the State could collect a nickel for every time he has propositioned a woman, the State would have a bounty of available funds”.
Mrs Leatherman,
Please don’t be so dismissive of Peeler. He was only speaking his mind. Bravely so, I might add.
Leatherman is a power freak. If that involves crookery, that is ok. But mainly he is in it for the power.