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Heather Elvis: Murder Is The Case

MOORER COUPLE FORMALLY CHARGED, BODY STILL NOT FOUND The escalation of charges against a couple linked to the December disappearance of a 20-year-old Horry County woman continued this week … Initially charged with indecent exposure and obstruction of justice last week – and kidnapping earlier this week – husband and…

MOORER COUPLE FORMALLY CHARGED, BODY STILL NOT FOUND

The escalation of charges against a couple linked to the December disappearance of a 20-year-old Horry County woman continued this week …

Initially charged with indecent exposure and obstruction of justice last week – and kidnapping earlier this week – husband and wife Sydney and Tammy Moorer have now formally been charged with the murder of Heather Elvis.

The only problem? Elvis’ body has yet to be found – which means prosecutors face a much higher hurdle in proving guilt beyond a reasonable doubt.

Nonetheless, the Moorers stand accused of murdering her with “malice aforethought” – a.k.a. premeditation. It’s not immediately clear whether prosecutors will seek the death penalty, though.

Elvis was last seen on December 17. Her car – a green 2001 Dodge Intrepid – was discovered two days later at a boat landing near Socastee, S.C.

Elvis was believed to have been involved in a romantic relationship with Sidney Moorer, 38, in the months prior to her disappearance. In fact according to a reporter who claims to have interviewed 41-year-old Tammy Moorer a month ago, she stated that Heather Elvis and her husband had sex in her car “a total of three times.”

The Moorers have an open marriage – meaning they are allowed to have multiple sexual partners.

“(Sidney Moorer) ended it when he realized something wasn’t right about her,” Tammy Moorer told the reporter.

The murder charges against the Moorers will be handled by solicitor Jimmy A. Richardson of Conway, S.C. Attorney Patrick McLaughlin of Florence, S.C. will represent Tammy Moorer, while attorney Kirk Truslow of Myrtle Beach will represent Sidney Moorer.

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171 comments

tomstickler February 25, 2014 at 4:06 pm

As the father of daughters, I have experienced worry over their safety. Despite our best efforts, a child’s actions are beyond our control. We live in hope for the best.

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JodyMack February 25, 2014 at 10:31 pm

Sorry, I REFUSE to believe that her actions had anything to do with this. Who is to know that she was not drugged and raped by that scumbag. We have not heard her side so lets not speculate by listening to the scumbags lies.

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Carrie Privett February 26, 2014 at 3:18 am

task for the ignorant people leaving malicious comments……do some research…thats right, read something of value and see what you can learn about *blaming the victim” and the life stage of *late adolescence*

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kay February 26, 2014 at 3:13 pm

Disgusted by all who are verbally attacking this young woman. Now is not the time, all you are doing is hurting the people who love and care for her. To those that want to excuse and condone the self disrespecting and classless behavior that far too many young women are are exhibiting today, I hope none of you are in charge of the up bringing of any young girls. Most of you were not raised that way. Just because the young girl down the street or you child’s friends are acting this way doesn’t make it appropriate. It is never too late to teach your children self respect and the other necessary tools in life to keep them out of situations like Heather found herself in. Tragic. May the evil people who hurt her rot in hell. May all those out there that feel this beautiful young girl’s behavior was normal and acceptable just because everyone else is doing it rethink that. Teach your kids to be a leader, not a follower.

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SCBlueWoman February 25, 2014 at 4:15 pm

“Something wasn’t right about her” She was just 20. Tammy is 41 and texted friends that Heather was pregnant and Sidney was meeting her that night to give her money to make it go away. I guess being upset about the situation makes Heather not right. I suspect that Heather was the better of the three….

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JodyMack February 25, 2014 at 10:30 pm

MAYBE SHE WAS PREGNANT BECAUSE SHE WAS A VICTIM OF DRUGS IN HER DRINK AND RAPED! THAT HAPPENS YOU KNOW!

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JodyMack's Caps Lock Key February 26, 2014 at 12:44 pm

STOP! YOU’RE HURTING ME!

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Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 3:04 pm

You seem to be a victim of drugs. Lay off the caps pal.

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easterndumbfuckastan February 25, 2014 at 11:00 pm Reply
just Sayin February 26, 2014 at 3:12 am

Some people (like 99.999999999999999% of them) shouldn’t have access to Twitter.

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mindspeaker February 26, 2014 at 7:49 am

That text was proven to be a hoax

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SCBlueWoman February 26, 2014 at 10:24 am

Thanks.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 3:02 pm

According to Heathers room mate Sydney was calling her saying he was in love with her, leaving his wife for her and for her to come meet him. Hecalled from both his own cell and a pay phone. Heathers room mate told police Heather was distraught and upset. Heathers last call was to Sydneys cell (after numerous back and forth starting at 3am) at 6am, also the last time cell cell phone pinged at a tower.

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Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 3:15 pm

Being the best of those three is like being the smartest kid in the slow class.

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However... February 25, 2014 at 4:29 pm

For some reason the solicitor has already stated that he did not think this is a death penalty case. I’m certain that he knows why but it is surprising since the threat of death usually is an important bargaining tool used in finding the body. I guess he knows that the attorneys also know what that element is which would prevent the death penalty but without it they will probably never reveal the whereabouts. It sounds like this one is going to go down the stretch and if so a very bad outcome for the Elvis family.

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Cindy February 25, 2014 at 9:53 pm

Not a lawyer but after reading SC’s laws about death penalty, I think it’s because they can’t prove that both had an active role in the murder. Mitigating circumstances against death penalty are that you participated but didn’t actually commit the murder. DA would know that either one would say the other did it. They know there’s no way to get death penalty as the sentence and it would be a more expensive trial.

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Mike at the Beach February 26, 2014 at 1:06 am

That’s not a bad piece of amateur prognostication, that. Death penalty trials are crazy expensive, drawn out affairs with numerous additional hurdles (jurisprudential, psychological, and political). Plus, if additional evidence turns up (which it may), that decision can come at any time, with the proper notice.

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yes February 26, 2014 at 8:41 am

Very well said.

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It just seems.... February 26, 2014 at 11:17 am

But why would he concede this before plea negotiations are completed? No way he can let either on slide here so this one goes to trial – big risk, but not for the Moorers. They only stand to gain by riding this out together. Nonetheless, they can get 30 for kidnapping or 30 to life for murder plus the other offenses. No light of day for 15 years for this couple but the body may never be revealed. I hope that I’m wrong.

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Cindy February 26, 2014 at 5:13 pm

If he knows it’s off the table, I suspect their defense would also know. It’s impossible to bluff when the other person knows your hand.

Mike at the Beach February 26, 2014 at 6:59 pm

That I don’t know, but I do know that we have one of the few genuinely honest solicitors of the 16 in SC. Richardson is diligent and has always wanted to do things the right way; I have to think (for now) that he knows something I don’t. A lot of people do (know something I don’t, that is).

Back of MF this ain't politics February 25, 2014 at 4:40 pm

Lay off dude. You keep pounding the sexual infidelity fooling around angle. Nothing that happened here to this young lady was deserved by her actions. If it were you then by your own admission you should be hung by your balls from the capitol dome and stoned by the National Guard.

Now imagine for a moment if it were your child. You can get your clicks without pushing that angle any further. If the math is your concern I’ll hop over to the findheatherelvis facebook page and turn 50,000 angry FOLKS to your direction. Before you wet yourself thinking about the clicks you might be surprised at how agressive some of them have become at people like exploiting this tragedy for personal gain or for causing the family greater pain.

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Pass the never mind February 25, 2014 at 5:01 pm

50,000 new visitors to his page? He’d love that.

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Dubious February 25, 2014 at 5:00 pm

There is no way in hell the Moorers are going to get a fair trial in Horry County. Or Georgetown.

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Voicefromthehood February 26, 2014 at 11:09 am

Define “fair”.

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kay February 26, 2014 at 1:58 pm

Just because investigators found incriminating evidence that will be made known in the trial, doesn’t make the trial “unfair’. The biggest problem with crime these days is the system being set up in s way to preserve “fairness” and the rights of the criminals first. Its completely backwards. The victims and their families deserve for their rights and freedoms to be protected first! Anyone defending these folks should stop. You are showing the world what an ignorant fool you are.

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Dubious February 26, 2014 at 2:07 pm

I know, all this shit about “trials” and “innocent until proven guilty” is so stupid.
If the cops say they’re guilty, they’re guilty! We should hang them all without a trial!

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Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm

Oh really? What happens when a person is really innocent? Should they just “hang” all who are deemed guilty by the cops? You’d be quick to disagree when it’s someone you love or care about.

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guest February 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm

The reality is that there are plenty of cases where a trial is nothing but a waste of time and money. In crimes where there is hard evidence such as dna , video etc. There should be no trial. In crimes where the suspect admits to or is caught in the act , there should be no trial. If a man or woman was caught red handed molesting your child I highly doubt you would be in favor of a trial. I would rather see an innocent person go to prison every now and then opposed to the thousands of criminals that get back out on the street because of bullshit politics. It is a very rare situation that a completely innocent person is simply in the wrong place at the wrong time. In those situations there would be no evidence and then I could see a person being deemed innocent until proven otherwise.

Cindy February 26, 2014 at 3:37 pm

I take from that, guest, that you would be ok with yourself or your son or daughter going to jail for crimes you/they didn’t commit.

FYI If someone confesses and doesn’t recant that confession, they generally plead guilty and there isn’t a trial.

SCBlueWoman February 26, 2014 at 3:40 pm

All these patriots willing to forego their constitutional rights just floors me.

guest February 26, 2014 at 3:53 pm

Exactly what’s wrong with the world. People too selfish to give up something to benefit others. I say this because I choose to live right and follow the rules whether I agree with them or not. I challenge you to find a person in the last 5 years who has been convicted of a crime they did not commit AND were in no way a part of. With today’s technology and DNA abilities, the system that’s in place is quite archaic.

easterndumbfuckastan February 27, 2014 at 7:40 pm

5th amendment to The Constitution of the United States of America.

No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offense to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb; nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use, without just compensation.

If you don’t like it, I suggest you renounce your citizenship and move to China, Cuba or North Korea. Send us a letter back from what ever political prison you end up in and let us know how well the beat, I mean, treat you.

guest February 26, 2014 at 3:44 pm

From your comment I suppose you would rather see the murderer of your child walk free due to a jackass attorney or some of brilliant people out there that are put on s jury. I would gladly go to prison for a crime I didn’t commit to save the thousands of people victimized by the monsters that continue to get offered ridiculous plea deals or no punishment at all and are allowed to continue terrorizing innocent people.

Cristina February 26, 2014 at 3:58 pm

Yes, I would rather a guilty person go free than an innocent person wrongly imprisoned or killed. I would not be happy about it, but would realize the necessity for allowing for that possible outcome to operate a society.

So you’re confronting you’re ok with you or your kids going to prison or given the dealth penalty wrongfully without a trial because the police said you/they were guilty?

guest February 26, 2014 at 4:22 pm

You would rather see a member of your family be raped murdered or kidnapped than to see me in prison for something I didn’t do?

Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 3:59 pm

I’m so sure you’d gladly go to prison willingly, for something you didn’t do. When an innocent person gets locked up, innocent families go through torment for no reason, and usually the real criminal walks free for a long time.
So, when you do go to prison for something you didn’t do, I’d like to know how well you take it.

Cindy February 26, 2014 at 4:05 pm

guest, what they all said. You’re joking with your “challenge” right? Have you been living under a rock? There are plenty of people who have been wrongfully convicted.

What’s wrong with the world is that people want one standard for other people and a different one for themselves. I don’t believe for a second you would be happy giving up your freedom for a crime you didn’t commit.

guest February 26, 2014 at 4:26 pm

Its very simple. Yes I would rather see a few innocent people and families go through hell if it changed the system and saved the hundreds of thousands of innocent families that go through hell everyday because of the the system that’s currently in place.

Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 4:40 pm

Well then, go save those hundreds of thousands of people! I’m sure you’ll like your tiny cell, locked up like an animal. You’ll have a blast. Knowing you did absolutely nothing wrong.

Cindy February 26, 2014 at 4:43 pm

The hell you’re talking about though is when a person that law enforcement believes is guilty is found innocent. When there is concrete evidence, that rarely happens. It’s generally the cases that are based on circumstantial evidence. In cases “there is hard evidence such as dna , video etc”, as guest put it, those people are usually convicted. With that in mind, what you’re implying is that we pervert the American concept of justice and forgo trials of those who are likely to be convicted just to save money. Or worse, that you’re suggesting we should not have a trials for anyone accused of a crime in order to spare the victim’s families who believe a defendant is guilty when there is not have enough evidence to convince their peers.

guest February 26, 2014 at 6:22 pm

Regardless of what you think, you are wrong. Do some research. Seriously go down to your local clerks office and take a peek at the cases that have been tried in and near your town. I did this. I can tell you that in the town I live in, in the last 8 months the DA office have sent three cases to trial. I live in a smaller community of about 20000.00 people. We average three to four murders a year and for about a 6 month period last year averaged 4 home invasions a day. Three trials out of that. I think you would be appalled to know this is happening everywhere. Its not black and white like we all are making it sound. Every situation is different. What I do know is the system is broken. When we have states releasing violent criminals because of overflow issues it all boils down to lack of accountability. Parents don’t want to teach their kids how to thrive in society, punish the parents when necessary. When they become adults and screw up they need to be held accountable. Often times its not like that. Look at this case. The husband and wife are more than likely guilty. The police obviously have concrete evidence. But due to making the suspects rights their first priority not only did they have a couple months to get rid of and hide evidence you can be sure that their attorneys are going to slaughter this young woman’s reputation, and weave and twist any kind of lie they can to place doubt into even one jurors mind. The DA knows this s before too long I’m sure a nice little plea deal will be handed down. Justice served, but for who?

Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 3:49 pm

Why do you hate God and America?

Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 4:02 pm

Cause god doesn’t exist.

Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 4:06 pm

So you hate something that you don’t believe exists? Now that ddoesn’t make sense at all.

Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 4:34 pm

It makes perfect sense :)

Dubious February 26, 2014 at 5:17 pm

Well, when you put it that way, I see your point.

George Zimmerman should not have gotten a trial. He should have just been thrown in prison for life!

guest February 26, 2014 at 5:55 pm

He should have gone to prison. He followed and stalked s child who then felt threatened and the need to defend him self. But no, they let him go only to show up in the news on multiple occasions after the fact for violence. We shall see how long it takes before he hurts someone else. Don’t believe I said that all accused should be sent to prison for life.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 6:30 pm

I see your point and couldnt agree more! If the Moorers are innocent than hopefully they can clear up some of the misunderstandings, be set free and maybe shed light on some of this nonsense, right? Truth will set us free.

Cindy February 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm

Given the recent news story about a man who would have gone to jail for several years because of what the cops claimed he did but was shown to have done absolutely nothing when the cops dash can video was released, I don’t think we should just take the police’ sword that someone is guilty.

I do think these people are guilty and Tammy Moorer seems like a cold hearted crazy batch. But I think they have the right to a fair trial.

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Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 3:46 pm

Actually, protecting the rights of rhe accused has long been a hallmark of the Anglo-America judicial system. Sir William Blackstone said that it was better to let 10 guilty men go free than 1 innocent suffer. He based this idea on the mercy God extended to the people of Sodom (Genesis 18). So I guess the real question here is why you hate the Bible and ‘Murica?

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kay February 26, 2014 at 4:18 pm

A person’s rights have nothing to do with god. The bible is a book that not a living soul knows the author(s) of. Kind of ironic those that live by the book that has never been proven and in the same sentence want to continue to push the innocent until proven guilty factor. Can’t have it both ways. Sir William Blackstone seems to be where we took a turn in the wrong direction. Our founding fathers did not run the justice system in the way it is ran today. It is a joke and year by year the US continues to get further and further away from what it was built on. When Americans are murdering their spouses, children, parents and other random people at such an alarming rate its time to pull head from anus and admit there is a problem. Hope the violent sex offender that cut his monitoring bracelet in Colorado for the SECOND time doesn’t find you or yours. It would surely be an eye opener for you as to how well the justice system is working for the tax paying citizens that are footing the bill financially and emotionally.

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Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 7:44 pm

Pleaae tell me who taught your civics course in school so that I cam make sure her teaching certificate is revoked. Thanks in advance.

easterndumbfuckastan February 26, 2014 at 8:46 pm

So, you prefer the Soviet style system under Stalin, or Nazi Germany under Hitler. That’s what you just advocated for. Comrade Kay, you are no longer useful to The Party, but since you were a good little slave you can choose hard labor in Siberia or off the the gas chamber. Pick wisely.

Leila February 25, 2014 at 10:15 pm

I don’t think Heather should have been sleeping with married people. Open marriage or not, she used bad judgement becoming involved with a married man. I’m not saying she deserves to disappear, but it wasn’t a good choice in my opinion.

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JodyMack February 25, 2014 at 10:25 pm

The only one’s claiming she slept with him are THEM….I do not think for a second that she slept with him willingly.

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easterndumbfuckastan February 26, 2014 at 1:24 am

Read her Twitter, she was a skank. Not saying she deserved to be kidnapped and murdered, but she bears some responsibility in this.

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tuiven February 26, 2014 at 1:41 am

Fuck u! U don’t even know her.

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easterndumbfuckastan February 27, 2014 at 7:34 pm

I don’t need to know her. I read what she published for the world. She shouldn’t have been murdered, that’s a given, but she made a bunch of questionable decisions that lead to her demise. She acted as a skank and sadly she paid the ultimate price for it.

Carrie Privett February 26, 2014 at 3:21 am

See previous replies to Jody……….

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dianne oakley February 26, 2014 at 3:24 am

maybe she didn’t know he was!!!! she was only 20 you heartless piece of crap!!!

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no February 26, 2014 at 8:39 am

Omg!!! All these exclamation points totally get my point across!!! Get real. She was having an affair with an older married man with kids. It definitely does not matter what age she was if she did that. If you heard about a 20 year old doing that and she was alive, you would be calling her a skank too.

No dog in this fight February 26, 2014 at 12:51 pm

I won’t call her a skank; she seems like a typical young adult in MB.

Her Twitter account is fascinating, though. Look what she retweeted from Daniel Tosh:
daniel tosh ?@danieltosh Nov 5
hey married fellas, you can either cheat on your wife OR murder her. never both. that’s when you get caught. new #tosh in 30!!!

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JodyMack February 26, 2014 at 12:55 pm

Please do not use my screen name you freak!

JodyMack February 26, 2014 at 12:58 pm

It never ceases to amaze me how people are so quick to blame the victim. That’s why rape goes unreported. There are cases where victims have been drugged day after day and still able to carry on normal activities. We still do not know her side of the story. I refuse to judge and speculate. Please do me a favor, DO NOT USE MY SCREEN NAME!!

Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 1:39 pm

You seem obsessed with rape and drugs. You have no idea what went on, and from the looks of her social media, she wanted this guy bad, and knew he was married.
I don’t care how old you are, at an early age people know right from wrong. She should have just admired this guy from afar, and left it at that.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:09 pm

Again – your point? Do you feel murder, two families torn apart, condemnation of the dead for the world to see is fair justification?

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:40 pm

Again – your point? Do you feel murder, two families torn apart, condemnation of the dead for the world to see is fair justification?

JodyMack February 26, 2014 at 4:51 pm

Do you have any idea what went on beyond a shadow of a doubt? NO, I do not think so. Stop judging her. We do not have the full story. A few comments on her twitter page proves nothing.

Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 5:27 pm

Neither do you.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:07 pm

Agreed. We will not ever know her side of the story either …

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:06 pm

Her Twitter feed is now simply a sad look back of what if’s …

No dog in this fight February 26, 2014 at 2:11 pm

Yes, it really is sad. And that retweet may not mean a thing. It just seems eerie under the present circumstances.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:33 pm

Agree. :(

Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 3:08 pm

A typical young adult in MB could still be a skank.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 5:33 pm

Does it make you feel better about yourself to label and name call the dead? Do the ends justify the means?

Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 7:07 pm

Does it make you feel like a big hero to defend her “honor” in these comments?

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:43 pm

Which “her” The victim or the accused? We already know you feel “Being the best of those three is like being the smartest kid in the slow class.” If being empathetic and persevering in the return of Heather to her family or encouraging somoen with information to step forward – than I guess so.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:05 pm

Name calling a VICTIM and judging makes this better? Do you feel bigger about yourself now? Are you saying she bears responsibility in being murdered?

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Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 3:07 pm

The fact that she was likely a victim of violent crime doesn’t make her a saint.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 5:25 pm

No one is saying she is a saint, she was young and human. The fact that she was the victim of a violent crime means whomever did it lacks a conscience and should be removed from society.

no March 2, 2014 at 5:55 pm

Actually EVERYONE on her Facebook page and beyond calls her a “saint”

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:03 pm

Both on Heather’s Twitter and on Tammy Moorer’s PUBLIC FB page (removed yesterday by authorities) a relationship is alluded to and acknowledge.

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JodyMack February 26, 2014 at 4:53 pm

I saw Heather’s facebook and twitter page, still no proof.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 5:57 pm

JM – her dad acknowledges that he did not know about the relationship while it existed, but found out from friends and coworkers after Heather disappeared. I believe it was on Nancy Grace, and has not yet been posted.

Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 3:06 pm

Not true. Her father confirmed it with her friends and co-workers.

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JodyMack February 26, 2014 at 4:53 pm

Please show me where. I have not seen proof of any confirmation and I have followed this from day one.

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Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 7:04 pm

YOU CAN LOOK IT UP YOURSELF!!!!

a friend February 25, 2014 at 11:35 pm

Who are you to jugde. Who she had relations with is and will never be your business. Nobody deserves to die. How would you feel if this happened to someone you love or even you! Mind your business

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no February 26, 2014 at 12:31 am

Um, it became everyone’s business when she disappeared. So…

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:38 pm

Everyones business as in concern, or everyones right to judge and condemn a dead person?

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no February 27, 2014 at 10:58 am

Both. Of course people should be concerned about her. NOBODY deserves to be murdered for pete’s sake, regardless of past actions. But just because she’s dead doesn’t mean you can ignore her past actions and pass her off as a wholesome person.

Carrie Privett February 26, 2014 at 3:12 am

It’s called….blaming the victim….look it up…read something…..reduce the ignorance level just a littl

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Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 1:47 pm

We made mistakes, but sleeping with older married men weren’t one of those mistakes. I think that’s just common sense, at any age.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:01 pm

Sunshine, in your world did she deserve to be abducted and murdered? In your opinion are mistakes only allowable if they are the same kind you made?

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Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 2:54 pm

Did I say that? She didn’t deserve it, no. No one does, but common sense would have kept her away from these people.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 5:15 pm

Susnshine, common sense isn’t something we are born with – we learn it as we go. Life lessons do not peak at any age but are things we acquire until we cease to exist on earth. On the same note we can say a 38 year old man should have had common sense not to encourage the advances of a 20 year old woman, and a 42 year old woman should have common sense to have left the 38 year old man instead of committing (allegedly) kidnapping and murder. So all parties involved lacked common sense. Do the means justify the outcome? Of course not.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 5:21 pm

Common sense or lack thereof are not the issue. Coulda, woulda, shoulda. Abduction and murder and a missing body are the issues at hand.Being honorable and giving the authortites the location of the body OR if the Moorer’s are not guilty coming clean on all the lies they have been caught in, no matter how embarrassing, to assist in finding her – ultimately they could end up being heroes!

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 1:58 pm

Because you always make the right and best decisions so sayeth WHO? Sure – a 20 something holding down 2 jobs while going to school living the party life coming of age lusted for a married man – who BTW was in an open marriage – I agree with you – she did not deserve to disappear or be MURDERED.

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Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 3:18 pm

Exactly. She should have stayed away. Bad choice.

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JodyMack February 25, 2014 at 10:22 pm

REALLY? I think they are lying. I do not think Heather had anything to do with that man. Why would anyone believe Tammy’s word is way beyond me. Those kind are always liers.

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JodyMack February 25, 2014 at 10:28 pm

If she did sleep with him, it is possible that she was drugged and raped. We do not have her side of the story. It never ceases to amaze me how people will take a scumbags word before a victim’s word.

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brittbritt February 26, 2014 at 7:34 am

Jody where are you getting your info?? Tammy only admitted to ?the affair Bc they couldn’t hide more deny it. She actively sought him out and she most certainly knew he was married as per her own twitter. I’m getting tired of reading your mouth on her. Your very rude at ?the thought of others. You need to go read her social media sites before you say anything more. Of course no one should have hurt her. ?the girl will never have a chance to change her life around and her family will be without a daughter. What tragedy. On ?the same hand what tragedy for ?the moorers children’s. No parents. This situation was out of control from ?the word go
Like it or not.

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JodyMack February 26, 2014 at 12:49 pm

Eyerolls, so you believe Tammy, the scumbag?

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:16 pm

Name calling is not helping to find Heather. Keep in mind the accused have family and friends that love them too. Name calling will only help in fueling their anger and possibly prevent someone from coming forward. What everyone needs right now are people to start being brave and coming forward with everything they know – for both families sake.

Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 3:50 pm

I have to agree about the moorers children. They now have to live with what their parents did for the rest of their lives. They’ll grow up without parents, and probably be shunned by many people. It’s not only Heather who’s a victim here, and people seem to not notice that.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:12 pm

Only ignorant people will blame the children. There are people out there who understand that they are also victims. Even if the children witnessed something and thought it best to lie to save their parents (not saying they are/did, generalizing) people will understand they are just kids themselves. However, if the family or friends of the accused know something that could help better the situation for the Elvis family, its best they speak up and be heard instead of carrying the burden of “what if” for the rest of their lives.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:08 pm

Agree their are many suffering on both sides. The difference is if the Moorers did abduct and murder Heather, they made their own children the victims of their own doing. The Elvis family didn’t have a choice. The Moorer children will be allowed to visit their very much alive parents.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:26 pm

No. There are posts from both Tammy Moorer and Heather Elvis alluding to or confirming a relationship at one point or another. I agree – its a shame that the victim bears the brunt of the burden. More sad – the victims families will read the awful things people say.

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Cindy February 25, 2014 at 11:25 pm

If you look at her Twitter, it was pretty easy to see she was into the guy. She mentions him once by name and once as the guy who builds things at work (media has said they met at her restaurant and he his job is building things, so 2+2 tells who she’s talking about).

She talked to her friend about a relationship with him. There doesn’t seem to be any reason to speculate that he raped her.

If they had sex, it was consensual. Though that’s no justification for killing her. A 38 year old married person should know better than to mess with a 20 year old. It’s too bad she didn’t realize she was way out of that guy’s league.

There’s no evidence that she was pregnant.

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easterndumbfuckastan February 26, 2014 at 1:22 am

She did say…Prego my Eggo on her twitter once, I’m guessing her goal was to get pregnant from that update.

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mindspeaker February 26, 2014 at 7:51 am

I beloved there is something to the whole pregnant thing.

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mindspeaker February 26, 2014 at 7:52 am

Believe

I have no decency February 26, 2014 at 11:58 am

I’d have humped her and ran away. Crazy isn’t fun long term.

“Elvis has left the planet.”

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:23 pm

Clearly, you have no decency.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:21 pm

No. Expand the tweet. It was a funny thing she heard and tweeted, her best friend called her out on it.

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Cindy February 26, 2014 at 4:19 pm

That could have meant anything. No one in her family or law enforcement has said anything about her being pregnant or believing she might have been. This article is the only source I’ve seen where it claims Tammy Moore texted someone that Heather was pregnant.

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easterndumbfuckastan February 25, 2014 at 10:57 pm

Not saying she deserved to be murdered, but read her Twitter, girl was fucked up.

https://twitter.com/HeatherElvis

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Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 1:43 pm

I think some things are meant to stay private, and not be written on the internet for the world to see. Leaves a bad impression. She should have thought about writing that stuff.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:17 pm

She is a typical young adult in her posts. From 13 on up write similar to that now – and parent who think their kids do not, typically do not know about their other accounts. Sad and true we all should watch what we post. Saying she was F’d up is no better than her tweets! lol

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Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 3:00 pm

I know young adults who don’t write stuff like that (I’m one) because it could be read by anyone. I think before I do, and so do many others I know.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 6:05 pm

Kudos to you and your friends. To clarify: Are you saying poor judgement in the use of social media is reasonable fault on the victims part? By taking this stance it sounds like you are justifying for the alleged criminals – who also BTW used social media poorly.

No dog in this fight February 26, 2014 at 2:17 pm

“Not saying she deserved to be murdered”
I’ll go out on a limb here and say she didn’t deserve to be murdered.

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Krisnsc February 26, 2014 at 12:47 am

I’m sure that rode hard out up wet 41 year okd became jealous when she found out her man was holding down a 20 year old. I speculate that it was a case of “her or me”, and the “her” may have been get rid of her. I am 32 and I can’t imagine if my boyfriend (who is 36) dated a 20 year old.. Probably not too great. Seems like. Case of jealous rage IMO

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:58 pm

The “Jerk” Tammy is referring to in this rant is Terry Elvis, Heather’s Father. When he noticed on the cell phone records there are numerous calls between Heather and Sydney from 3am until her disappearance, he started calling Sydney Moorer begging, then threatening to know his daughters whereabouts. Yes, Tammy’s FB screams of jealousy and insecurity – please note she declares she herself has a boyfriend outside the marriage: http://www.allthingscrimeblog.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/rant.jpg

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Alicia Pinkytoe Plyler February 26, 2014 at 1:57 am

ok not saying that they did not do it, but no body and no confession… can please someone give the evidence… i mean really…. what did they find… unless it is blood in the car or something what is the proof. I feel bad for the family of Heather because this is going to be tough… her dna in the car is not going to be enough evidence when even the wife admitted to them having sex in the car. ready to see how this unfolds…. PRAYERS FOR THE ELVIS FAMILY!

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Lana Porter February 26, 2014 at 10:16 am

Alicia, about not having a body (yet) >Murder charges can be files without a body IF, and ONLY if investigators have found enough evidence to prove the murder happened, through multiple pieces of evidence. And, about no confession > WHY would they confess when the only thing they have left to hold on to is that Heathers body has yet to be found. Many people who murder deny even with a body.
I read a post by a gentleman that knows both of the Moorers who stated at the time the murder charges were filed that it is his opinion that TM & SM will not talk because the family “is known to hide terrible secrets”. Now I do not know what that means, but he seems to be correct so far. I believe the Moorers think her body will not be found and think that is their “chance” to get out of this mess. But her body WILL be found and even then they can deny but they would not have murder charges filed against them if they were innocent. Authorities have to have a lot of strong evidence against the Moorers to charge them with murder without a body….they would not risk filing the charges on weak evidence. Even though authorities can not release information because the investigation into finding Heather is ongoing, they have said that Heather was murdered…at the landing where her car was found…and on Dec.18…and that she was kidnapped and brought there. Obviously the evidence found at the Moorer home & property led to this.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:20 pm

In a press conference the police said they did not have a body but more than enough circumstantial evidence to be confident in proceeding with murder charges. All taken from the Moorer’s home and vehicle. Yes, prayers – for both families.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 11:09 am

First: “(Sidney Moorer) ended it when he realized something wasn’t right about her,” That isn’t this articles post it was a quote, clearly from insignificant trash. Any man that is in his thirties and has a relationship with someone that much younger has issues. Second: Everyone needs to stop saying “Go look at her Twitter” because that only paints one side. You can no longer find Tammy and Sydneys PUBLIC rantings on their FB page because authorities shut the pages down yesterday afternoon. However – want to get a taste of Tammy’s psycho you can search and find her posts and rantings, including the family members and friends saying in the comments “um, this is public” realizing the world could see what everyone was saying. (Yup, I read them all before they disappeared) While we are character slamming a dead 20 year old how about welfare moochers, living off the state AND traveling to Disney all the time?! Third: 3 kids without parents? Sad that their parents created a nightmare for not just their own family, but another. Did you REALLY go there?! How about parents that know their daughter is DEAD and can not bury her because now her dead body is leverage for their jail terms?! Those kids will have to carry the burden from the ignorant in the world, but we all have burdens, trials and tribulations to bear and their parents created theirs for them. They STILL HAVE their parents! Fourth: Heather was a consenting adult – but her FB, Twitter and Instagram are no different than most kids in college coming of age. Regardless your personal opinions about her posts – none of us knew her as an individual NOR are in a place to judge. Fifth: They would not have charged them with murder if they did not have substantial evidence, which at this time (obvious reasons, duh) is on lock down. What we need now is for a very public push (in a peaceful way) to the Moorer family to divulge the whereabouts of Heather so Dateline can create the episode and all the people involved can begin their healing process.

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SCBlueWoman February 26, 2014 at 3:37 pm

Some on here know her and her family. I also read the Moorer’s unsecured facebook page. Your post is right on.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 3:59 pm

Before the Mooorer’s FB page was taken down – the outlash of behavior publicly and posts were really quite disturbing, and make Heathers immature Twitter account look like a normal late puberty adolescent college kids tweets. For any and all family, community and friends of all directly involved – my heart goes out to you and light and love are with you.

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Cindy February 26, 2014 at 3:44 pm

I’ve looked at her Twitter and don’t see anything that’s not normal for a 20 year old who had a crush on a much older guy.

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Cindy February 26, 2014 at 3:48 pm

I feel I should clarify because I think I left room for interpretation that I don’t consider having a crush on an older guy to be a bad thing at all. It’s normal for a 20 year old. In my opinion, the older person should have more responsibility knowing where to draw a line – especially when that person is married.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 3:55 pm

I agree completely. However, coming of age and significantly younger – “open marriage” was the term being used by both the Moorer parties (the wife admits openly she had a boyfriend on the side) it changes the rules a bit. Not that I would want to get tangled in that – but I can see where that to a third party would be greying out the boundary lines. This has cost so many so much.

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Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 4:03 pm

The rules are the rules whether these white trash want to follow them or not.

Cindy February 26, 2014 at 4:10 pm

From the way Tammy Moorer made her alleged statement about the open marriage on Facebook, I don’t personally believe there was any sort of arrangement. Judging only on that statement, I think TM claimed she had a boyfriend in order to make it seem like she didn’t have a reason to be jealous (ie no motive). Even if there was an open marriage, TM’s alleged Facebook statement claimed Sidney cheated on her. So he at least went out of the bounds of their agreement if they ever had one in the first place.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 5:04 pm

I also wondered about her rant – its screams “I am hurt, we are guilty” sadly it does appear he went outside the agreement of their arrangement. I guess only Tammy and Sydney know the truth.

Chrissy Lane February 26, 2014 at 11:57 am

If this case teaches us nothing else, everyone reading Heather’s twitter can see how this generation is different from that of their parents. Today’s 20 somethings place less emphasis on emotional attachments…they are into casual sex. I don’t see anywhere Heather professed to love Sidney Moorer. She lusted after him. That is not a crime. Murder is a crime and should be punished to the full extent of the law. I can see that Heather still had a baby face and a naive, easygoing outlook on life. She was enjoying the moment. If Sidney had an ounce of conscience or common sense, he wouldn’t have been fooling around with her. He is not going to “man up” now and tell what happened or give the Elvis family any information that would allow them any resolution to their grief. What a scumbag!

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No dog in this fight February 26, 2014 at 2:48 pm

I have no opinion on his guilt or innocence, but I agree with everything else you wrote.

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ash February 26, 2014 at 12:21 pm

looking at this pretty girl i am wondering how she got caught up with that bunch. they are significantly older and seem country and she is drinking raw and organic pressed juices. just doesnt seem to fit.

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Sunshine February 26, 2014 at 1:41 pm

What does drinking organic juices have to do with anything? Wow.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:15 pm

I follow your point. It is an odd match of ducks.

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jenniferleigh013@yahoo.com February 26, 2014 at 1:43 pm

first off the HAMHOCK (morrer) posted via facebook her “HUSBAND” “cheated on me with this whore”..if infact they have such an OPEN relationship as she claims…how did he CHEAT? and WHY DID SHE USE ” ” when stating my “husband”???? RIP pretty girl and burn in hell fatass n pedo

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sarah February 26, 2014 at 2:10 pm

Her Twitter feed certainly portrays her much differently than press articles. No one deserves something bad to happen to them, but this little girl was living a very risky lifestyle and did not care who she hurt in the process. Don’t believe me? Go spend an hour or so reading her last years worth of Tweets.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 6:09 pm

The problem with social media is that things we did not know, did not need to know, or do not want to know about people is now publicly displayed for all to read. Just because she was partying and dating doesn’t take away from the fact that she was a college student, holding down 2 jobs, active in her community and church. A person can still be a good person and have lead a “very risky lifestyle”

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 2:31 pm

“(Sidney Moorer) ended it when he realized something wasn’t right about her,” Tammy Moorer told the reporter. <—— I would like this "reporters" name sited and the full interview published, or a link to it, as well as connection/ties (if any) to Tammy Moorer published by fitsnews. I request this because I have only seen ONE interview made publicly and it was to a local Blogger who is a friend/relative to one of the accused Tammy Moorer. Thanks :)

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Charlotte February 26, 2014 at 4:35 pm

http://www.chelseahoffman.com/2014/01/exclusive-interview-chelsea-talks-to.html

Not really a “reporter” so to speak. More a blogger for a “wanna be” news site.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 6:37 pm

There is a big difference between a reporter and blogger. I work with both. Both take pride in what they do :)

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spicypants February 26, 2014 at 5:35 pm

Are you talking about the interview with Chelsea Hoffman? That’s the only interview that’s gone public that I’ve heard about, as well. I’m interested to know where that quote came from too. Hmm….

So, TM is related to Chelsea Hoffman? Also, what I wonder about is what went on in the hours leading up to Heather going missing. They were charged with indecent exposure, and apparently they were at Tilted Kilt when the alleged indecent exposure happened. It seems like they were looking for Heather that night – and looking for trouble as well. I really wish they’d go for the death penalty with these two – they seem evil.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 6:20 pm

Yes. Thank you – I had forgotten her name. I requested the source where they got their material because a blogger is not a reporter and relationship because I had read an online commentary where someone commented they (TM and CH) knew each other. I am not trying to drag down CH credibility, wanted to have that rumor confirmed or denied. Interesting now – wondering if that podcast is being or has been profiled.

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spicypants February 26, 2014 at 9:18 pm

Good call! Until you mentioned it, I never thought about where that quote came from. I would really like to know – I guess I assumed it was something she told the police? Could be wrong. Hopefully the owner of this blog will answer you. As for Chelsea, I don’t know anything about her – I’ve read some of her stories, but that’s all. If she’s related to TM, I’ll be shocked/surprised.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 6:40 pm

Scratch that last comment – her podcasts are about the case, her conversation with TM was off the record and not to be recorded. Still, it would be interesting if her professional notes from the conversation were subject to subpoena.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:02 pm

The dates of the charges make TM’s statement to CH about not returning from California until after she had gone missing a lie. Why lie? that is what I do not understand.

http://freepdfhosting.com/e7bf0b510d.pdf
I thought the charges for indecent exposure would have been based on the public FB post by SM regarding the adventures at the mall …You added an interesting point to the mix. If TM is enraged and broken hearted over an affair, why take her husband to the place of the persons employment? I just wish they would tell the truth and end the drama for all parties involved.

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spicypants February 26, 2014 at 9:15 pm

Why lie? Good question! There’d be no reason to lie… unless…??? I guess that’s why they’ve been charged with murder. It’s sad that we’ll probably never know the truth – these two creepers will never admit to anything, that’s obvious, they’ve spent two months covering up and lying. Their FB pages were nothing but a big show, it proved the level they (I mean she, since she was working both profiles) will go to. There is a special place in hell for people like them.

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Chrissy Lane February 27, 2014 at 1:12 pm

If SM &TM went to the TK and were upset enough to have incurred an indecent exposure charge, the statement above regarding an “open marriage” is false. If the marriage was so open, TM wouldn’t have been sending im rants about Heather, unless that too was staged by her or someone else. I wouldn’t count on these 2 psychos to have hatched a very elaborate cover-up.

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spicypants February 27, 2014 at 5:41 pm

I agree!

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Jster Mac February 26, 2014 at 3:27 pm

Okay I’m done with all these post instead of gossip let’s help the family with a fund raiser to help with there expense through all this and remember this family has too much love in there heart to ask for anything I want to see POST on when the next fundraiser and hanging posters to find Heather Keep the family in your prayers

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:26 pm

That is a good question for the support page admins
https://www.facebook.com/findheatherelvis

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Haleyj February 26, 2014 at 3:34 pm

I think some of you people need to get your facts straight before you start bashing this girl on ANYTHING. Yes she did some dumb things but who hasn’t??? I went to school with her and her sister and I’m sure some of you don’t have any room to talk. TM and SM are trash. I saw them around MB all the timeand they are crazy people. Heather didn’t deserve what happened to her. I pray for some of you inconsiderate jerks.

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Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 4:01 pm

So if we so have room to talk then it is okay with you?

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:22 pm

Funny little smart alec aren’t ya?! There was only one perfect person and it is said his father asked him to die for our sins. You are no better than anyone else, let the person with no sin cast the first stone …

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Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 7:27 pm

Your comments here about “judging” demonstrate a child’s Sunday school understanding of that passage.

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commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:31 pm

because you are behaving like a child, I assumed it should be on that level. Knowing your bible will do you justice. Where is your empathy for the people suffering? What do you gain from baiting someone who is clearly grieving?

Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 7:36 pm

Who am I baiting? Who here is grieving?

If any good is to come from her life we can’t white wash over the way that she lived. Her fate should serve as a cautionary tale to other young people living the same depraved lifestyle that she chose.

You should capitalize Bible and realize that the texts were not written in English and given to you.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:48 pm

To be fair, since it reads as if you passed judgement on or condemned the victim, you feel about the Moorer’s how?

Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 7:54 pm

Explain to me what you think it means to “pass judgement?” I am not weighing the worth of their soul here. I am simply discerning something about their actions and all were behaving like white trash.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 8:00 pm

When you say her fate, it does involve her soul. Are you saying in this “Her fate should serve as a cautionary tale to other young people living the same depraved lifestyle that she chose” that the outcome is justifiable? I probably misunderstood. It reads to me along the lines of a person wear revealing clothes deserves to be raped and should serve as a life lesson to anyone else opting for a similar outfit.

Yelsewh February 26, 2014 at 8:09 pm

Fate = murder. I’m saying nothing of where she will spend eternity because I simply can’t know… I have my beliefs which will probably surprise you but that’s a much deeper conversation for another forum.

You are making the mistake of equating my statement about Heather’s risky and repugnant
behavior to me saying ahe deserved to die. That’s not very smart of you.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 8:24 pm

Again

Outfit = rape ??

Nor is is it empathic of you to continually name call and bash the parties involved in this situation.

commonsense February 26, 2014 at 7:19 pm

Sorry for your loss. Please know there is more good than bad in the world. You may not e able to see or feel is now, but there is. thoughts and prayers to all involved.

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troll March 2, 2014 at 5:56 pm

Heather was a fucking whore. Don’t care that’s she’s dead in the slightest.

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