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SCGOP Polling: Black And White

SOMEBODY CUE MICHAEL JACKSON …  || By FITSNEWS ||  South Carolina “Republicans” are probably a bit more racist than GOP voters in most other states, but you wouldn’t know it by looking at the latest polling data. First, let’s start with their views on the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue…

SOMEBODY CUE MICHAEL JACKSON … 

|| By FITSNEWS ||  South Carolina “Republicans” are probably a bit more racist than GOP voters in most other states, but you wouldn’t know it by looking at the latest polling data.

First, let’s start with their views on the occupant of 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue – president Barack Obama.

According to the results of the latest Winthrop University poll, only 4.3 percent of South Carolina “Republicans” approve of the job Obama is doing.  By contrast, a whopping 91.3 percent disapprove of Obama’s job performance.

We know … “racism,” right?

But wait … South Carolina has a U.S. Senator (Tim Scott) who is black.  Twice as black as Obama, actually.

What are his poll numbers like?  According to Winthrop’s survey, 83 percent of SCGOP voters approve of the job Scott is doing compared to only 3.5 percent who disapprove.  That makes Scott (hands down) the most popular public official in the state, among “Republicans” – much more popular than fellow U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham.

Graham, who is white, has a 58.2 percent approval rating among GOP voters.  Meanwhile 34.6 percent of “Republicans” disapprove of his performance.

Bottom line?  South Carolina “Republicans” (and Democrats) may not be ready to let Scott into their swanky country clubs, but they approve of the job he’s doing in Washington, D.C.

Graham?  Not so much …

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55 comments

Rocky April 16, 2015 at 11:11 am

Odd thing is, what, if anything, has Scott done. See the way it works is, if you have the R behind your name, and you don’t do anything, or create any waves, or stand up for anything, you have great approval numbers. You advocate a position or policy, your numbers drop. Hence, nothing ever gets solved in Congress and the Senate.

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southmauldin April 16, 2015 at 12:47 pm

Correct. Just vote against everything except wars, serve about 20 years without sponsoring any legislation, then retire (or quit like Demint), get a sweet lobbying job and collect that pension. Term limits, people.

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Torch April 16, 2015 at 2:03 pm

Sounds like Joe Wilson. Agree with Rocky that he hasn’t done much.

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nitrat April 16, 2015 at 11:19 am

If this were a real political blog, it would tell us how many times Tim Scott has voted differently from Lindsey Graham.
Good grief, I bet there have been well under 50 senate votes on anything since Tim Scott has been in office. It should be easy to compare the two.
I bet there ain’t a dime’s worth of difference.

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idcydm April 16, 2015 at 12:19 pm Reply
RogueElephant April 16, 2015 at 12:43 pm

Off the top of my head there was the vote to defund Obamacare. The vote that mattered was the cloture vote which required a 60 vote majority. A NO vote was the conservative vote. Scott voted NO while Graham voted YES. cutting of debate to allow a vote that only required a majority. Then they both voted NO. Scott honestly and Graham as usual dishonestly. There have been others where Scott has stood with the conservatives and Graham has stood with the Dims.

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Manray9 April 16, 2015 at 11:34 am

“South Carolina “Republicans” are probably a bit more racist than GOP voters in most other states…” I’m surprised to see someone admit it. Scott is a puppet. He has no independent standing and no visibility, prominence, or “horsepower” on Capitol Hill. He’s a figurehead for the SC GOP.

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Mona Lott April 16, 2015 at 12:07 pm

What percentage of regular SC Republican voters doesn’t even realize that Scott is black, I wonder? Fair number, I’ll bet.

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Squishy123 April 16, 2015 at 12:44 pm

Maybe he should change his name to Leroy JaQuantel Scott.

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RogueElephant April 16, 2015 at 12:48 pm

0% I’d be willing to bet.

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TroubleBaby April 17, 2015 at 8:56 am Reply
RogueElephant April 16, 2015 at 12:12 pm

REAL Republicans judge a person by their character not their color. If I remember correctly some famous person said something to that effect.

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vicupstate April 16, 2015 at 12:23 pm

Yes, it was the same person that for years Republicans worked diligently to prevent having his birthday designated a holiday.

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Tom April 16, 2015 at 3:14 pm

Not to mention all the Republicans who wanted SC State employees to be allowed to choose between getting MLK Day off and Confederate Memorial Day off.

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cuvinny April 16, 2015 at 12:28 pm

Why did you ignore question 20? 25% of GOP voters are dumb enough to admit to being racists.

T20 The next is marriages between blacks and whites. Is that acceptable or unacceptable?

All Respondents

Strongly Acceptable 41.6
Somewhat Acceptable 30.0
Somewhat Unacceptable 7.4
Strongly Unacceptable 16.1
Don’t Know/ Not Sure 2.8
Refused 2.1

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Jack April 16, 2015 at 3:23 pm

Those voters who put down Somewhat Acceptable and Refused are the GOP voters who were smart enough not to admit they were racists.

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Squishy123 April 16, 2015 at 6:06 pm

I’m okay with it, most of the mixed marriages I’ve seen you either have a white woman who no white man would ever consider marrying and only go on a date with if he lost a bet, or a white man that would have a hard time even getting an ugly white woman to talk to him.

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SynTwist April 16, 2015 at 7:50 pm

You know what – F*ck what is or is not acceptable based on majority. We are all individuals. I am sick of the F*cking polls that prove nothing. Absolutely nothing. Every single one of them can be skewed, dependent upon who is administering. We can think for ourselves. We don’t need polls to do that.

Conversation between people IMHO is far more important than some damn poll.

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TroubleBaby April 17, 2015 at 8:54 am

You’re missing the political angle here. The Dem propaganda talking point is Republicans are racist. (and I’m not a Republican for the record)

For sure, there’s some truth that some are racist, what is never discussed though is that Dems are equally racist in their own way.

Even further, it’s verboten to consider that a free country would allow people to be racists, assholes, etc., as long as they aren’t hurting person/property.

The boundaries of “acceptable” freedom are placed via MSM & the gate keepers of PC thought in general.

There is no actual “deep thought” on the matter, just emotion and shrill shouts of “unfair”.

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Tom April 17, 2015 at 11:13 am

You are wrong. This is not politics. This is reality. Racism is a problem in the Republican Party of the south. Its not made up, and there has been a ton of “deep thought” on the matter.

Racism still drives Republican politics in SC. You only need to look at their voter suppression legislation to know that. Not to mention their hatred of everything Obama does or does not do. White people can ignore it if they want. They can pretend its not real, because it does not effect them. But minorities would be fools to nor recognize that little has changed in race relations in this state since the 1960s.

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TroubleBaby April 17, 2015 at 12:22 pm

“You are wrong. This is not politics. ”

“Racism still drives Republican politics in SC.”

lulz

Tom April 17, 2015 at 12:31 pm

It is not politics to say racism drives Republican political strategy, if it is true. Politics as you put it implies it is a lie, made up by Democrats. That is simply not the case. So let me put it differently then.

Saying that Racism still drives Republican politics in SC is not something made up for political reasons by a political operative, it is true, and if you are from South Carolina you know it is true.

See my Lee Atwater quote above.

TroubleBaby April 17, 2015 at 12:36 pm

“Saying that Racism still drives Republican politics in SC is not something made up for political reasons by a political operative, it is true, and if you are from South Carolina you know it is true.”

I never claimed the statement that some Republicans are racist “isn’t true”. Go back and re-read my statement.

When you ignore who is driving the narrative, you take a myopic view of a statement made by an opposing party without reflecting on the reason why(like you’ve done here).

It clearly IS politics(regardless of “truth”), as you yourself pointed out.

Let us not pretend that there aren’t racist Democrats either, not only that, but I could easily argue to the same degree.

Tom April 17, 2015 at 1:03 pm

I am not a Democrat. I am an independent. I have always been an independent. Over the years I have voted Republican and Democrat. But I grew up here. I come from an upper middle class white family in a small town. I know how politics works here. The odds of a true racist being a Democrat these days are very small. Most of the racists left the Democratic Party in the 70s and early 80s. That is not the case with the Republican party. The odds of a true racist being a Republican in SC are very high.

I use the phrase true racist, because I believe there are a lot of Republicans who are not racists, but who are willing to use the racism of other Republicans to generate voter turn out. They support legislation they know is designed to hurt minorities in order to obtain the support of the racists within their party. I have even less respect for those people than the true racists.

If you took out the true racists and those people who are willing to pander to racists to win elections, you don’t leave
a very big demographic. Throw in the gay haters and it falls even more.

No I do not believe you could argue racism plays a roll in the Democratic party and the policies of Democrats, the same way that it does in the Republican Party.

TroubleBaby April 17, 2015 at 2:06 pm

“No I do not believe you could argue racism plays a roll in the Democratic party and the policies of Democrats.”

95% of blacks voted for Obama.

Are they racists?

Tom April 17, 2015 at 11:02 am

You people are beyond amazing. Even when people admit they are racists, you deny racism is a problem. How do you have a conversation with people who do not want to have a conversation. Do you have a conversation with your dog. That is how true racists feel about having a conversation with black people. People who believe it is immoral for black people and white people to marry or have children are not interested in a conversation. I think you are just embarrassed that the party you support is so racist.

This is not political. Despite the effort of people like TroubleBaby to make it all about politics and talking points. It is not. Racism runs deep in the Republican party. Especially in the South. It owes its very existence to the hatred of “uppty” black people and anger with the national Democratic party over the civil rights legislation of the 1960s. There are far more people like Squishy123 in the Republican Party of the South than people who want to talk out their differences.

I have lived in SC my entire life The Republican Party has always sold itself as the party that will protect you from the blacks. That still drives Republican politics to this date.

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SynTwist April 17, 2015 at 11:59 am

As a matter of fact I do talk to my dog :). It is my opinion racism runs in both parties, because both parties are made up of people and it isn’t a party that is racist, it is people who are racist.

I don’t recall the Republican party promising to protect anyone from blacks? It is my strong opinion the Republican Party uses religion far more than race.

I don’t believe it is immoral for black and white people to marry, have children or whatever they decide to do. But….I don’t require a poll to formulate an opinion.

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Tom April 17, 2015 at 12:23 pm

While there may be some racism in every party. The odds of a racist being Democratic are small. Not so with Republicans

You say you have not heard the offer of the Republican party to protect you from the blacks. Well only three things can explain that.

1. You have not lived in SC for a long time.
2. You are lying.
3. You have not listened.

Lee Atwater describing the Southern Strategy. He died being hated by Republicans for saying this out loud.

“You start out in 1954, by saying n*****, n*****, n*****. By 1968, you can’t say n*****, that hurts you, back-fires. So you say stuff like forced busing, states rights, and all that stuff and you’re getting so abstract. Now you’re talking about cutting taxes. We want to cut this is much more abstract than even the busing thing and a hell of a lot more abstract than n*****, n*****.” LEE ATWATER, REPUBLICAN STRATEGIST.

SynTwist April 17, 2015 at 12:28 pm

I was not born in SC, moved her in 98. Did not get involved in state politics until 2008.

Lee Atwater had a spin until the day he died based on what I have seen/read. Brilliant strategist, but did not appear very honest to me. However, I did not know him, only what I have read or watched.

idcydm April 16, 2015 at 12:28 pm

Why is it if you’re a D and disagree with Scott you are not racist but if you’re an R and disagree with Obama you are?

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Squishy123 April 16, 2015 at 12:42 pm

Are SC Democrats more racist than in other states? Or is racism a one way street…

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RogueElephant April 16, 2015 at 12:46 pm

You didn’t get the memo did you ? Only conservative Republicans can be racist. Everyone else gets a free pass.

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Bible Thumper April 16, 2015 at 1:09 pm

Don’t forget Nikki Haley has a 79% approval rating and she is not white.

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SynTwist April 16, 2015 at 7:48 pm

Who appointed Scott?

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Bible Thumper April 16, 2015 at 8:19 pm

Are you Pineappletwist’s sister?

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SynTwist April 16, 2015 at 8:25 pm

I have the same avatar, should be easy to recognize. :)

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Bible Thumper April 16, 2015 at 8:27 pm

Why the change from Pineapple?

SynTwist April 16, 2015 at 8:29 pm

I chose to? I stated on earlier threads I was struggling with a name. Everyone can recognize me by the avatar? No? I stated I grew that pineapple, how hard is it to connect the two? Tomorrow, I might be Pineapple something else ;)

SynTwist April 16, 2015 at 8:30 pm

Look up Synergy and then Twist, that is where I got the name.

Bible Thumper April 16, 2015 at 8:37 pm

Ok. In my mind juice is dripping down my furry chin.

SynTwist April 16, 2015 at 8:38 pm

LOL – If you had tasted that home grown pineapple, it truly would be dripping ;)

I didn’t want to steal an image, nor pay for one, so this is a pic I took, of a pineapple I grew when in bloom. It looks twisty, and fitting :)

SynTwist April 16, 2015 at 8:44 pm

Hmmmm…..Furry chin, you are either a hobbit with misplaced hair or need a trim? ;)

Bible Thumper April 16, 2015 at 8:51 pm

Just my avatar.

SynTwist April 16, 2015 at 9:51 pm

Ha! I do act a lot like mine – ha! Love roleplaying, but there is always a nugget of truth ;) Just gotta dig for it.

shifty henry April 16, 2015 at 1:15 pm

After suffering weak gain at the poles, the National Transistor Party has been trying to energize their base.

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TroubleBaby April 16, 2015 at 1:27 pm

“Twice as black as Obama, actually.”

lol, that’s pretty funny.

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Manray9 April 16, 2015 at 5:41 pm

Twice? One-half? In many places in the Old South the legal standard was “one drop.” That would make Obama and Scott equally African-American.

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Alex April 17, 2015 at 12:33 am

There’s nothing funny about you people openly displaying your ignorance and patting each other on the backs over it.

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TroubleBaby April 17, 2015 at 8:49 am

“You people”?

Sounds like you’re a racist to me.

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Jonny Logic April 16, 2015 at 1:58 pm

Yup, Mr. Scott has a nice, unintimidating name, doesn’t really do anything, and basically acts the token he is supposed to. Nice gig if you can get it.

And I bet Repubs also love how he speaks so intelligently. Almost like he’s a person.

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Southern Patriot April 16, 2015 at 3:08 pm

Ask those poll participants to name a single thing Tim Scott has ever done – in his life – and you won’t get a response from any of them. They only “like” him because it proves they’re not racist.

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Tom April 16, 2015 at 3:11 pm

LOL, exactly.

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Lone Ranger April 16, 2015 at 4:55 pm

And of course since Will Folks only has walking around sense
he doesn’t yet have a clue that ole Tim is—imagine it—even more dumberer than
he

That’s right—and Haley KNEW that when the
conservative-stabber appointed Scott who says…I serve black folk and the whites
sending money to me !!!

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SynTwist April 16, 2015 at 7:47 pm

Scott is a go along get a long kinda guy. When I look at MegaVotes, he typically votes in step with Graham. I have nothing against him personally, but what does he stand for? Does anyone really know?

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FastEddy23 April 16, 2015 at 9:23 pm

FITs … Time to change the home page poll and put Hillary’s name on there, too.

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