National Politics - 2016

“Anti-Hillary” Forces Mobilizing In SC

FORMER U.S. SENATOR JIM WEBB’S TOP STRATEGIST MAKES A SOUTH CAROLINA SWING  || By FITSNEWS || Democrats looking for a liberal alternative to presumptive 2016 nominee Hillary Clinton aren’t going to find one in Jim Webb. The former U.S. Senator from Virginia is a liberal, don’t get us wrong, but he’s…

FORMER U.S. SENATOR JIM WEBB’S TOP STRATEGIST MAKES A SOUTH CAROLINA SWING 

|| By FITSNEWS || Democrats looking for a liberal alternative to presumptive 2016 nominee Hillary Clinton aren’t going to find one in Jim Webb.

The former U.S. Senator from Virginia is a liberal, don’t get us wrong, but he’s not going to run to the left of Clinton if he decides to seek the presidency in 2016.  If anything, Webb has made a name for himself as the Democrat who could lure angry white male voters to his banner – meaning his candidacy, in the event it materializes, could wind up coming at Clinton from the right.

According to reporter Nia-Malika Henderson of The Washington Post, Webb “would be an explicit counter to the sort of progressive, feminist narrative that would inherently undergird a Clinton run.”

“He would also be the anti-Obama, a break from the sort of identity politics around race, gender and ethnicity that have, in Webb’s telling, excluded working-class white men,” Henderson added.

Why should we care?  It’s not immediately clear whether we should … but Webb is clearly gearing up for a campaign.

In fact his senior strategist – a colorful consultant named David “Mudcat” Saunders – was in South Carolina this week.

What was he doing?

“Laying the groundwork for an anti-Hillary alternative,” a Democratic source told FITS.

Saunders spoke to the S.C. House Democratic Caucus – appearing alongside operative Tyler Jones, who worked with Saunders on the 2008 presidential campaign of former U.S. Senator John Edwards.

“He talked about Webb and the need to win back the rural white ‘bubba’ vote,” a source who heard Saunders speak at the S.C. State House told FITS.

Saunders would know.  He got former Virginia governor (now U.S. Senator) Mark Warner elected in 2001 – and got Webb elected in 2006.

Saunders made waves in advance of the 2013 Virginia gubernatorial election when he endorsed the candidacy of Republican Ken Cuccinelli, referring to Democrat Terry McAuliffe (who narrowly won the election) as a “corporate Democrat.”

“I’m a friend of Ken Cuccinelli’s and I hope he wins,” Saunders said at the time. “I’m a Democrat, and not a corporatist. I don’t support corporatist candidates.”

Sounds like he (and Webb) are going to have a field day with Clinton … who is being assailed of late for being a crony capitalist.

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63 comments

euwe max March 3, 2015 at 7:29 pm

Other businesses closed during Richardson’s most recent sweep include Tiffany’s Cabaret, Teezers, The Bunny Ranch, Bottoms Up and Airport Express Video.

Read more here: http://www.thestate.com/2015/03/02/4020762/update-fantails-gentlemans-club.html#storylink=cpy

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Imanbama March 3, 2015 at 8:25 pm

American people have already decided Obama can’t be trusted to defend this country and is a ‘closet’ Muslim. A radical.

Muhammed gives him credit for giving Iran nukes,Yemen,Iraq and Libya(Egypt figured it out)in return for fighting ISIS and eliminating Christians in the middle east.

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FastEddy23 March 3, 2015 at 9:05 pm

Agreed, He is in the clutches of the power lovers, the political manipulators …

However He is under the sway of a higher authority: Wall Street, specifically Goldman Sacks of It and the big five retail banks. The president’s apparent snuggling up to the Islamo-Nazis, but the covert purpose is to enrich and empower the military/industrial complex that Dwight D. Eisenhower warned us all about. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8y06NSBBRtY

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dude u r a thinker! March 3, 2015 at 10:01 pm

Brilliant thinking and history lesson for those choose to be educated.

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Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 7:41 am

If you’re so educated, where is the “who” in that sentence, Flipper?

FastEddy23 March 4, 2015 at 12:54 pm

Buz, Who You? Who do you suppose? Taxpayers, ACORNs and Occupiers and anyone else who can possibly read.

(These PlayStations don’t always reproduce everything typed, considering the posts have to pass through Gruberment spy servers, Discus “censoring” servers, FITs “unprotected spew” servers … and then back.)

Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 1:17 pm

Are you “outing” yourself as “dude u r a thinker!”, then? That would mean you are congratulating yourself on your own comment. Please tell me you are not pogo.

FastEddy23 March 5, 2015 at 12:14 pm

As you may have noted I’m all over the map on postings … I’m ignorant enough to not always keep to topic … or even to a train of thought.

FastEddy23 March 3, 2015 at 9:00 pm

I’m some what surprised you see that and understand.

DHS is not the root core of the Brown Shirt movement(s) of the “progressive” Fascists, but is certainly has the power and secret services to carry out that kind of activities.

The “Patriot Act” is their lynch pin of authority, and you are right to fear it and to speak out against it.

And I agree it does appear that the republicrat rinos smell that power they all seem to adore and bow to. …

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Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 7:31 am

Not sure what a local prosecutor trying to single-handedly kill the golf industry on the Grand Strand by blatantly pandering to the fundies has to do funding DHS, but … well … thanks for speaking your mind.

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euwe max March 4, 2015 at 11:27 am

The connecting point is – Republicans are scum.

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Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 12:51 pm

You still don’t get the fact that, with only a few exceptions, GOP and Dem pols in this state are interchangeable. The Dems who remain Dems are valuable to the ones who have become what Sic calls “Republicans”, because they help them get federal $$$ and cross-over votes.

The GOPers are their access to power. To the extent that the tea freaks figure that shit out and work it somehow to their advantage, they become part of the system. Case in point, Joe Dugan and Gerri McDaniel have transitioned their formerly flailing, inept, obnoxiously obstructionist Myrtle Beach TP group into nothing more than a showcase for national GOP hopefuls on the political stage, once a year. For which they get to think of themselves as kingmakers.

The greens, unionists, etc., of the left — more mainstream Dems according to the national profile — get along with the corrupt ones who play both sides, by mostly ignoring the corruption — and gratefully accepting a few bones and table scraps from them from time to time, in the form of donations.

It is, by no means, an elegant system. But it chuggs along, like a broke-down tractor that has been jerry-rigged time and time again.

Jerry-rigged, gerrymandered … not much difference. Both keep the dysfunctional state functioning, by keeping those pesky minorities from every having any real power.

One exception: Clyburn’s playing of that game gives blacks in his district the power to keep sending him back to Congress, for the benefit of his family and cronies, and pretty much nobody else.

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euwe max March 4, 2015 at 12:52 pm

Like I said…

Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 12:55 pm

You do kinda get it. You just can’t bring yourself to say that a great many pols of both parties are scum.

euwe max March 4, 2015 at 2:32 pm

Suh! Y’all fugets yusef!

While *all* us Suthun men see these actions by the Klan… especially the lynchin’ that happened last night… as unexcusable, it should still be said that them was some seriously UPPITY niggers!

…see? I can be even-handed and engage in false equivalences as well as the next guy.

GrandTango March 3, 2015 at 7:45 pm

So you admit you are seen as the party of race-hate…and Webb is your neo-saviour? ?….LMAO…

LMAO….to see FITS $#!tting all over himself about Hillary. ..your previous saviour. …hahaha…

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Buz Martin March 3, 2015 at 9:22 pm

Once again, reading a whole different article from the rest of us. You really do live in an alternate dimension, don’t you?

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GrandTango March 3, 2015 at 9:46 pm

I can see around corners Dumb@$$…you are always caught w/ your pants down…

I told you months ago Hillary was a joke…but you – or those like you – said she was can’t-miss, best-ever…now you are disavowing her like the Democrat Party tries to disavow NAMBLA as one its premiere voting segments…

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GT bats 1000% March 3, 2015 at 9:57 pm

Oh my!!! Now that ‘manly’ Democrat ‘babs’, Bubba Boxer and Barbara MulCowski are leaving the senate, will they be inducted into the NAMBLA HOF?

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GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 6:27 am

Will probably found NAWGLA…more to their tastes…

Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 12:52 am

Idiot. I may have stated that Hillary was inevitable, because she did seem to be at one point. But I’ve never expressed support for the Clintons on this site. I’ve basically stated, in more ways than one, that I agree with Imus when he calls her “Satan.” How you can twist that into me being a Hillary Clinton fan is beyond human ken.

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GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 6:25 am

I think you make my point. You have no insight, no creativity in thinking…yet you (and FITS) pontificate as if you are authorities…You’re usually just regurgitating pop culture dogma.

While I’ll give you very well-supported articulation and you fight it, and demand you are correct…no matter how many time you are proven wrong, and not very smart…

Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 7:28 am

Ah. Got it now. It is “creativity in thinking”, and “well-supported articulation” to just blatantly make shit up about people, and pretend that it is gospel truth. Good LORD, that is warped thinking!

I have in no way been proven wrong in my thinking about Hillary and Bill Clinton. I see them exactly as I have stated. You can push your freakish version of reality for all eterenity and it won’t make it true.

GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 8:27 am

I make up nothing. I take what you freely offer, and assess who, and what you and FITS are…based on what you give me to work with…

That is why you – and all the little FITS groupies – hate me. You think what you say makes you sophisticated and erudite, but really it just shows you to be cliche, pack-think lemmings…

Most people digest the surface to placate their egos…you are like most. You hate me, because I’m not like most..and you despise me even more because I am right about you…

Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 9:18 am

You assume that I hate you. I don’t. You are a curiosity to me — nothing more, nothing less.

The sad truth is, even though you embarrass the hell out of all real Republican conservatives on this site, too many of them really agree with too much of your bullshit. The spirit of true erudition and reasoned articulation on the right is dead. The tea freaks have put a stake in its heart. And you are the designated stake-holder here in FITSville.

William F. Buckley is spinning wildly in his grave. David Brooks and George Will have to be looking for some opportunity to make a graceful exit, stage right.

But sadly, no sane “stage right” is evident. They are trapped in the ever-narrowing confines of a hellish quasi-reality.

Just like the snakes in your head.

Otis March 4, 2015 at 8:31 am

God forbid someone ‘blatantly make shit up about people’ as Boz posted…Rhodes is the mayor of Myrtle Beach..

“The community has been buzzing for the past week about the wreck that involved Rhodes, which led Rhodes to discuss the issue on a local morning radio show on April 6.

Martin said Rhodes had tried to hide that he was in a wreck that Martin said people had speculated involved driving under the influence – which Rhodes said isn’t true. Martin, who told the council Tuesday that he had never stated any of the information as fact, said he came to Tuesday’s meeting because he couldn’t respond on the radio to the criticisms Rhodes made of him on that radio show.

Rhodes said he was in a wreck in Aynor as he was driving a rental car to a meeting in Columbia, but he was not at fault. A copy of the accident report was not available late Tuesday.

“Mr. Martin seems to think it was a coverup because I didn’t call a press conference,” Rhodes said after the meeting. “What, am I supposed to hold a press conference to say I had a wreck?”

Rhodes said he had to go on the radio show to defend himself against Martin’s accusations, adding that if he didn’t respond it would have appeared that he had done something wrong.”

Read more here: http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/2011/04/13/2098479_local-calls-for-rhodes-to-resign.html?rh=1#storylink=cpy

Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 1:34 pm

The no-go no-show pogo blow-hole bloviates on …

That was reported accurately. There had been a lot of “buzz” about the incident, which I now know was due to people trying to make a mountain out of a molehill, and egging me on to do the mountain-building. I should never have allowed myself to be used that way. Period. John did nothing wrong. I made a foolish mistake in attacking him as I did before council.

Ancient history. And it seems to be all you’ve got, flippy pogo. The more time passes, and the more my friendship with the mayor and his family grows, the more foolish you appear for this seemingly seemingly reflexive and pointless regurgitation on your part.

Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 12:13 pm

Curious, do you ever contribute to a conversation without resorting to insults or name calling? Your comments “might” be more interesting if you did.

GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 12:28 pm

You are left lost so much because I am TOTALLY committed to a set of core values and a political movement, devoid of ANY greed or ambition directed toward myself…
All of you simply want to take me out…because you think if you can discredit me, it validates you, and the ignorance to which you espouse.
You are operating on a false premise to begin with, and you have ignoble – and misguided – motives…..
Develop some honor and honesty…and you may not be left grasping so often…
As it is; you’re attacking a solider…as I wage war on your indecency, immorality and insincerity…I know the enemy, and I strike you FLUSH, relentlessly. You are confused, corrupt and stupid.
That is why I win…and you look so bad…
PLUS: I have a lot more talent and intellect than you… (:

Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 12:33 pm

What are the core values and political movement you are so committed to? I am far more interested in that.

GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 1:04 pm

Read the F*#king Posts you brain DEAD idiot…
That’s part of your problem…I define you based on what you say…yet you try to attack me, based on your clichés and pack-think myths…

Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 1:06 pm

Wow, you really are something else! I can see there is no hope for an intellectual conversation, so moving on.

GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 1:43 pm

To ask me what I stand for, after I splatter it all over this site day after day…is indictment of you.
It is a distraction…

Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 1:48 pm

I dont have the time to weed through all your posts trying to analyze what you believe. The amount of time you have spent in a futile effort to demean me, you could have explained. Based on what I have read, you are no conservative, yet you bash everyone on this site. Carry on soldier.

GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 1:54 pm

Thank you. You confirm that my initial instinct was correct..

Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 2:04 pm

Was that before or after your “indictment” of me? LOL

Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 1:26 pm

“…it validates you, and the ignorance to which you espouse.”

Semi-literate much? Don’t tout your “intellect” when you commit such gross offenses against the English language.

One might espouse ignorance, but one does not espouse anything “to” ignorance.

You are a fool’s fool.

GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 1:42 pm

The IGNORANCE to which you are espoused….Better???…LMAO…

Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 6:30 pm

Still wrong. “… the IGNORANCE which is espoused to you…”, though awkward, comes closer to capturing what you’re obviously trying to say. Which is fucked up shit, but at least try to say it right if you are claiming to be so goddamned brilliant, OK?

Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 6:38 pm

Shhhhhu Buz, don’t distract him, otherwise he might have “an indictment of you” too LMAO

GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 8:07 pm

Desperate much????…LMAO…

Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 8:12 pm

You are seemingly desperate, but very entertaining, like a dark comedy.

GrandTango March 4, 2015 at 8:19 pm

Trite Much???

Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 8:24 pm

Oooow and he has found the dictionary. Not much, but sometimes. I am baffled by the number of followers you have, I suppose I am trying to figure out what they find so interesting.

We Read, He Imagines March 4, 2015 at 1:47 am

Tango and his buddy Flip have not mastered reading at the first grade level yet so they make things up.

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SCBlueWoman March 4, 2015 at 8:03 am

It’s alternate dementia.

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scblewfido March 4, 2015 at 8:07 am

Better than the ‘DeBITCHA’ you have been inflicted with. Go have another abortion,service your pit bull and get back with us.

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mamatiger92 March 4, 2015 at 8:22 am

Morning, Flip. Time to take your meds.

SCBlueWoman March 4, 2015 at 9:41 am

Fu*k you, dumbass.

Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 9:48 pm

This site attracts all kinds. Some are disgruntled with two party system, inequality, freedom and various other issues. I don’t think you can really put a label on the content or visitors. I have voted Republican far longer than I care to admit. Sadly, both parties play the race card. I don’t judge a book by its cover, nor a man by his color.

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On the Silly Watch March 3, 2015 at 8:21 pm

Hahaha!

This is about as “serious” as Donald Trumps candidacy!

Is Lyndon Larouche running again?Hell is the old bastard still alive?

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Purple Rain March 4, 2015 at 12:15 pm

Literally laughing out loud!

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FastEddy23 March 3, 2015 at 8:54 pm

Way, way too early. … But, better now than not at all.

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Bible Thumper March 3, 2015 at 9:41 pm

“Angry white men”, “Bubbas”?
We must be a bunch of idiots and bigots. Imagine trying to stop the first time a woman became President. It’s a woman’s turn. We must be sexist and backward people.
Could not possibly be that we have high ideals and sincere concern for the nations future success and prosperity. Naaah! We’re all just angry racist sexist bigots.

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GrandTango March 3, 2015 at 9:51 pm

With liberals, they say race does not matter…but w/ them race is ALL that matters…

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Bible Thumper March 3, 2015 at 9:58 pm

Wrong! Sex matters; gender matters. They are so obsessed that they have to create new words. Example: “cisgender”
It would be offensive to call cisgender people what we always called them. “NORMAL”

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Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 7:35 am

“Normative” would be more accurate.

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Buz Martin March 4, 2015 at 7:40 am

Race trumped gender for Clyburn when he tried to destroy Hillary Clinton in her first run for the Dem nomination.

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Nölff March 4, 2015 at 9:54 am

As for getting a woman into the White House, it’s a great idea. Just put forth a woman with honesty and integrity. I don’t won’t to see a Bush or Clinton presidency again.

The GOP put a lot of effort into Hillary-shaming in the 08 elections. It
let Obama come out on top.

Hilary’s got a lot of scandal going on right now. I think a majority of Democrats wouldn’t vote for her.

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TSIB March 4, 2015 at 12:52 pm

Jim Webb, “liberal?” lol.

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David L Hucks March 4, 2015 at 11:57 pm

She may pull out. Trey Gowdy is on her like…. Well you know.

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TyroneMamaCollards March 5, 2015 at 9:46 am

Impeach Hillary ! Off with her head! Jesus wants it ! To the guillotine !

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Michael J. Stefonick March 5, 2015 at 5:43 pm

Anybody but her.

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