Letter: May The Confederate Flag Decline In Vigor And Strength
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If we take the confederate flag down, can we impose a law that requires (blacks and whites) to put their fucking pants up to their waist?
Or make black males responsible for their kids?
Or white single mothers responsible for getting food for their kids without food stamps.
Or black single mothers ceasing to use their genitals as entitlement factories.
Or loner white men shooting up offices, schools and movie theaters with assault weapons.
Another (typically) poorly researched and irreverent bit of non sequitur from you on this. There have been a not-so-whopping 160 active shooter incidents in the US from 2000-2013, during which just under 500 victims were killed. This is not a good thing, obviously, but represents an over-hyped bit of media puffery in the scheme of US crime, when hundreds of thousand of Americans were murdered in the same time period. Progressive souls love active shooter stuff because it’s a 90% white male game and generally makes it easier to demonize guns. The active shooter “problem,” however, is small beans in the overall crime picture. Either way, a massively weak analogy to the racial divides and ratios in entitlement spending…
I’d agree to that compromise
Comments above prove flag issue is about racism.
To whom?
Only in your feeble little mind.
You’re to stupid to even realize it. Why would you tie flying the confederate flag to the behavior of African-Americans? What’s the relationship there?
Why would you tie flying the confederate flag to the behavior of African-Americans? What’s the relationship there?
Hint:
Think “Colored People*” instead of “African-Americans”.
*As in the National Association of.
Pants at half mast?
I’d settle for their poles being at half mast. It’s a money saver.
I say we just exchange it for the Bonnie Blue flag. The Klan never used it, it honors people participating in the Civil War, and it just looks cooler.
Good deal. That and the pants up thing.
You know, I really like your idea. Toss the ties to slavery out the window, but retain the notion of secession from unjust government.
That’s a sensible solution. Hence our legislators would never consider it.
I’m just sick and tired of hearing about this nonsensical issue, myself. It really isn’t that big of a deal. We spend more time worrying about removing a flag from the State House grounds than we do removing shitty politicians from the State House grounds, and no surprise, it shows.
Personally, I never think about that flag until I see some raggedy-ass pickup driving down the road with a pole mounted on the back. That is, until someone decides that they want to get elected and there it is – in my face every time I glance at the news. Give them the flag and tell them to stfu. But that monument must go with it.
Why the monument? Why can’t people realize that history is complicated and not everything is black and white. Those who fought and died for the Confederacy largely fought to defend their state.
if the blacks want to go back on their original agreement to have the flag removed from the dome then they should lose what they gained in the agreement. THAT SIMPLE.
They agreed that moving to the statehouse grounds was an acceptable resolution, now it’s just not good enough any longer. If it’s moved to a museum, eventually that won’t be acceptable any more and they’ll want it removed from there because it’s just to painful. There really is no resolve that will adequately pacify the portion of the population that want to beat this dead dog.
And I understand that they would never agreement to lose the monument, therefore, the flag would remain. We seem to be making the same point that they do not understand compromise, only take and cry, take and cry.
I suspect the stars and bars, much like the stars and stripes, will continue to lose all relevancy to our pluralistic society where notions of heritage and history appear at times quaint, if not simple-minded.
Sooo… “flag down” and “pants up” — yes, that means today is Friday!
Rhys be trippin’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_XwcOPjfro
That’s some flowery writing, for sure. In any event, I don’t buy the argument that “it only belongs in a museum.” The Statehouse grounds have always contained historical monuments and symbols. While the flag is controversial, it is also part of our history and a defining part of our state’s past.
I think the problem isn’t necessarily placing the flag on the grounds, but rather placing the flag front and center next to Main and Gervais. I think a more appropriate setting would be off to the side — somewhere less visible from traffic.
I WILL NEVER MY LOWER MY CONFEDERATE BATTLE FLAG. LOWER YOUR FAG FLAG YOU SELF-HATING WHITE PIECE OF SHIT RACE TRAITOR. GO SUCK A NIGGER DICK WHILE YOU ARE AT IT.
Psychopathic Klan member does not know the difference between public and private property. No one gives a shit if you fly the confederate flag in your single-wide. The argument is that it does not belong on public property. Crawl back in your ditch.
No one gives a shit if you fly the confederate flag in your single-wide.
Only because they won’t know it’s there. They will give a shit if you fly it over your single-wide.
The argument is that it does not belong on public property.
The argument used to be that it didn’t belong over the Statehouse dome. TBG wonders what “the argument” will be 15 years from now.
Not true on your first point. Many people fly the flag on private property, consistent with the First Amendment. On your second point, the Statehouse dome is public property, as is the Statehouse lawn. If you want to look at it militarily, there is no room for the flag of an enemy of the U.S. on public property.
Not true on your first point.
http://www.live5news.com/story/13235751/copy-sc-neighborhood-doesnt-like-confederate-flag
PRO TIP:
Start with the assumption that TBG is always right…
Nice anecdote. Now consider thousands of other cases — and pick-up truck license plates.
…pick-up truck license plates.
http://www.ajc.com/news/news/state-regional-govt-politics/new-confederate-license-plate-brings-skirmishes/ndSjT/
Aight.
First Rule of Holes:
When you’re in one…stop digging.
I’m not in one — you’re the delusional South Carolinian in this equation.
$10 says this an Obama supporter just trying to get shit started.
Do you swallow?
It’s hard to see where people get the idea that the flag (that is coming down eventually) is tied to racism and extremism (and a history of violence and terrorism)…
…even in a state where nearly half of its citizenry is African American
According to the latest U.S. Census Bureau figures it’s actually 27.9%. Nit-picking aside, though, I agree with the sentiment of the article.
It’s merely a matter of time before it comes down and is relegated to the museums it belongs in. The vast majority of the under 40 crowd understands this symbol has been co-opted by the bigoted and intolerant such that its message of southern pride and valor has been drowned out. Moreover, the younger folks empathize with those whose ancestors were oppressed under this flag and how they are hurt by this symbol flying over their statehouse grounds.
Those opposing its removal are, once again, on the wrong side of history.
That’s correct.
It’s coming down sooner rather than later,but it’s a good vehicle to fan the racial flames a little longer.
Whats funny is when it does come down,it will be like the Civil Rights Acts passage.It was fought tooth and nail in Dixie,yet within a few years after its passage,it was almost impossible to find anyone who’d “really ” opposed it!
I can see it now.Fast forward about ten years from now, as the flag is being lowered for the final time.It will be hard to find anyone who ever “really” favored keeping it flying.
This issue is most likely to always be a problem with ignorant people. It is at an appropriate location. Sadly to some people it’s now more visible than when it was on the dome. It is only a 3 ft square flag. Compared to a huge slave monument on the statehouse grounds. Which of the 2 resembles and reminds people of a once slave nation north and south. We do not hold the USA flag accountable for slavery. Why not? The confederacy only existed for 4 years. Why not honor all of history for each and every accomplishments black white or whichever race. Blame game is always against the south and it’s people. I for one have many ancestors from all wars and the confederate army. If blacks can honor Martin Luther king and Malcolm x or tupac. Why can’t I honor my heritage without a label. South Carolina should not be held by demands of a compromise that was reached in 2000. It is finished and it’s at an honorable location. Be content that it’s off the dome and leave it be. It’s only a publicity stunt to get more black votes or whomever who don’t agrees votes. Perhaps read history and understand all points.
“Compared to a huge slave monument on the statehouse grounds.”
Hardly huge, but to the CSA monument you really need to add those of Ben “Jim Crow” Tillman, Ol’ Dixiecrat Strom, and Dr. “Mengele” Sims.
We’ll I would say take every damn one off the grounds but then some damn fool would put up a damn monument of Obama. Hell all they do anymore is make demands and expect positive results. How positive is it for ignorant fools to worry over a flag. It is not a real issue that is destroying anyone. Look at a real threat to our homeland like Isis. Oh no now Jackson claims Ebola is racial profiling. How is this the white mans fault. Oh no we have furguson racist too. Oh my race cards are flying like 52 card pick up. The liberal democrats have nothing on the plate except race race race. They could not do Michael browns funeral without putting the democrat vote in the damn eulogy. They could not do the early service without asking for donations. Money and race is all these people know. Protests and looting is making these people look ignorant. You know racism try looking why you or anyone is racist yourselves. Racist blacks is just as bad as racist whites. Look at furguson and it’s being proven over and over.
This issue is most likely to always be a problem with ignorant people. It is at an appropriate location. Sadly to some people it’s now more visible than when it was on the dome. It is only a 3 ft square flag. Compared to a huge slave monument on the statehouse grounds. Which of the 2 resembles and reminds people of a once slave nation north and south. We do not hold the USA flag accountable for slavery. Why not? The confederacy only existed for 4 years. Why not honor all of history for each and every accomplishments black white or whichever race. Blame game is always against the south and it’s people. I for one have many ancestors from all wars and the confederate army. If blacks can honor Martin Luther king and Malcolm x or tupac. Why can’t I honor my heritage without a label. South Carolina should not be held by demands of a compromise that was reached in 2000. It is finished and it’s at an honorable location. Be content that it’s off the dome and leave it be. It’s only a publicity stunt to get more black votes or whomever who don’t agrees votes. Perhaps read history and understand all points.
It’s like deja vu all over again.
Those who want the Confederate flag to remain atop the Capitol …
An impossibility.
Have you been afuckingsleep for the past 15 years?
If you spit on the rebel flag in South Carolina-Would that be a felony or a misdemeanor?
Smirks, well said. And many of these politicians use the flag (bring it down and keep it up) to get elected and re-elected. Lets move on and govern responsibly rather than whining about where a flag is placed.
The funny thing is that if they ran the first national flag up the pole most of the uneducated people that protest against it, listening only to the talking heads, wouldn’t know what it was and probably just think it was an old version of the American flag.
to the writer of this article: may whatever god you believe in, have mercy on your soul
Why does the NAACP and their lackeys GET TO DEFINE A HISTORICAL AMERICAN FLAG?
TELL THE SC LEGISLATURE NOT TO NEGOTIATE WITH THE NATIONAL ASSOCIATION FOR THE ADVANCEMENT OF CERTAIN PEOPLE.
TAKE BACK OUR FLAG. PLEASE SIGN THIS PEITITION:
https://www.change.org/p/south-carolina-state-house-south-carolina-state-senate-south-carolina-governor-demand-the-naacp-rescind-their-odious-blight-on-the-universe-resolution-before-any-debate-on-removing-the-sc-confederate-veterans-memorial-flag