POLICE BRUTALITY IN THE PALMETTO STATE
A pair of Greenville County (S.C.) deputies brutally beat a man at a Walmart store on White Horse Road – a stunning display of cowardice and contempt for the rule of law that was captured on video and posted to social media.
Wanna watch the craziness? CLICK HERE, although we warn you the video is not for the faint of heart.
The clip clearly shows the suspect – who is seated on the floor and not visibly resisting – rolled over onto his side and then punched repeatedly in the head by one of the officers. Onlookers recorded the incident on their cell phones, but did not attempt to come to the man’s aid (God forbid they be arrested for disturbing an officer in the middle of a beat-down).
At the end of the attack, the police taunt the battered suspect for being unable to rise to his feet.
“Stand up!” they yell at him.
In an equally stunning display of cowardice, the local media – notably WYFF TV 4 (NBC – Greenville, S.C.) – basically regurgitated the official police narrative of the incident in their online coverage.
“When deputies arrived they said the man identified himself as ‘911’ and walked inside the store,” the station reported. “Deputies said they decided to take him into custody once he went inside the store. Deputies said the man resisted arrest, which is when he was shocked with a Taser. According to deputies, after he was shocked the man continued to resist arrest and they had to physically restrain him.”
Yeah … because that’s exactly what video of the incident showed (editor’s note: sarcasm ).
Greenville County needs to make an example of these cops.
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Did he sign the petitions and how many times?
Is that BigT (Tango?)
We can only wish, but BigT’s real name is Emily so no.
I thought cops had pepper spray to handle intoxicated and/or belligerent individuals.
Cops yes…however we only use it if the old lady won’t give up the cash. A veteran move , so too speak.
Pepper spray and tasers are backup for when you run out of bullets.
Personally, I’d rather depend on pepper spray (OC) to do the job. Unfortunately, that stuff has its downsides, too. Like the Taser, it can fail to subdue a violent or uncooperative suspect. Also, especially indoors, it contaminates secondary targets (persons) to include assisting cops. Ask any cop whose been in a fight with a large, violent, suspect when someone popped CN, CS, or OC, and they will probably tell you about getting a snoot full, themselves Even in stream form, OC would have probably had people in the back of Wal-Mart coughing, hacking, and gasping. Microscopic particles of this stuff branching off from the stream get picked up by air currents and circulated all over enclosed areas. Some of the “citizens” who got a whiff would have been demanding whaaambulances, no doubt convinced they had just won the day’s ghetto or trailer park lottery.
If the cops are using a spray version of OC like Cap-Stun™, the atomization of these particles and distribution of them over a wide area is even worse.
Jessie [The Reverend Jackson], come home!!
We gotst an egregious civil rights violation!!
*waits patiently*
The guy is white, so Jesse and Brother Al don’t give a fuck.
“The guy is white . . .”
Wow, Squishy! You recognized that the guy was white! That’s not like you to notice skin color – you are such a color-blind kind of guy that I am just shocked!
If one day Ferguson ever happens on a national scale, the police are going to regret the daily uploads of their abuse on the general public via various internet media.
There’s a lot more “people” than there are police and it won’t matter how well equipped they are.
“Is it safe?”
Shit that’s freaky, I haven’t seen that movie, it’s going on my list now.
I’m sure that’s how some of our Iraqi prisoners must have felt… “where are the WMD?”
Yep, sad as shit.
http://www.economicpolicyjournal.com/2014/08/voices-from-guantanamo.html
We’ll be buying a Slurpee and a box of Doritos loaded from these guys before long.
If you go to Saigon and go on a tour, how will you know if your tour guide killed your dad to protect his daughters from horny soldiers?
Damn! That scene creeped me out when I first saw it, and I couldn’t even watch it now…. hope I can sleep tonight!
Sleep is greatly overrated.
Damn right. 2% is a REVOLUTION! Ask my wife.
It always matters how well equipped one is. Show up at my house with a knife to do me or my family harm and see how that works out for you.
do me or my family harm
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If I’m going to do *you* harm… I’d first get permission from the local organized crime families.. verify your location with real time video, light up your house with a laser from a drone, and drop 40 2000 pound bombs on your house and surrounding neighborhood from 30,000 feet… on sound of impact, a distant battery of M777 howitzers will begin firing 155mm M982 Excalibur rounds into the same grid until saturation has been reached… then I’d send in three or four rounds of fast acting, self-neutralizing nerve gas.. and only THEN send in an experienced platoon of mercenaries to verify the kill.
Damn! That would leave a mark. You are nothing if not thorough. Remind me not to piss you off… ;-)
That shit of “if you come after me, you’d better *kill* me” isn’t lost on me.
Euwe spent way too much money. A night scope with infred and one 7.62X51 round would accomplish the same goal. I have a friend that was buying a new house and the salesman was describing the security features of the house . Steel doors with extra locks and steel door frames. The guy said: that’s fine but the wall next to the door is one layer of vinyl siding, insulation, 2x4s and sheetrock. He said the salesman got the funniest look on his face. LOL
True indeed! Most folks don’t get it (and one need not go all prepper-crazy to be ready for life’s little surprises). That’s why we will all head up to the third floor “party room” when Euwe Max and his group show up. I was also going to ask Euwe how in the hell he got so well-connected. We should have suspected him a some type of government plant…
Good point, RogueElephant. I look at houses on line and daydream a good bit about places that would be good for whatever monetary abilities I might have at some point in the future. These vinyl-covered cardboard abodes don’t do much for me for the reasons you noted. Like most mobile homes, a .25ACP round would easily penetrate the walls of one. Brick is better, but a box of fifty or so 9mm rounds will soon knock a hole in the side of one that would allow a slim man to crawl inside the house. At least with brick, a stray 9mm or .38 isn’t likely to hit you in your bed as you sleep.
you watch way to much tv if you think that is anything but fantasy
I am he who knocks
You truly are a lunatic sometimes. Do you really have to internalize everything?
Btw, to your point, if 100 crazies show up at your door with a knife, you aren’t going to win no matter how much arsenal you have.
What you call “internalizing” most educated folks would call “analogizing,” but it’s a free country as they say…
As for your main point (the 100 knife-wielding crazies at my door), don’t be too sure about that. That’s not lunacy, it’s just proper equipment.
Ok Mike, sure…you’d win…I should have known.
Not me, technology. Don’t drive angry…
“Don’t drive angry”?
WTF does that mean? lol
You’re are absolutely deluded if you think any level of technology is going to protect you from 100 knife wielding maniacs trying to kill you in your home.
Wow, dude…I really didn’t think that we’d end up here because I was simply responding to what I thought was your humorous “100 crazies” line, but, let’s do it. I most certainly *could* defend my home from 100 knife-wielding crazies, as could a lot of folks in SC. Unless they can hack through the walls of my house with those little knives (or they have a helo on the roof), they’re going to have to get to me (one or two at a time) through a single door on my third floor. In the tactical business we call that a “choke point,” which is a horrible place to be when being fired upon with 7.62 rounds. Assuming you’re only talking hyperbole here and not science fiction / zombie madness, you tell me how all 100 of those knives will get through that door? I have plenty of 7.62 (way more than the 100-200 rounds I would require in your hyperbolic scenario) already loaded up and ready to rock upstairs (where the family would be- behind me). After I acquaint the first dozen or so of your crazies with the pretty impressive stopping power of the 7.62 round, that door will be even harder to get through for the pile of your “zombie” carcasses. Assuming the real world would send 100 guys with knives to my house, would they also continue to crawl through that door to a certain death? I think not. I’ve shot (unfortunately) a fair number of folks and in my experience, once the first few go down in a kill zone, the rest get the point pretty quickly and split post haste. Of course, my only point was that technology does matter- a lot. never bring a knife to a gun fight. As for driving angry- that’s a Bill Murray reference from Groundhog Day- basically akin to “Lighten up, Frances,” “it’s all good,” or “u mad, bro?!” Just funning around man, it’s FITS, not rocket surgery…
Glad you got a plan Mike if the SHTF. Be sure to wear your blues so all the angry poor people know you are one of the “good guys”.
I’m sure your plan would keep you safe.
Dude, really, I think you should consider “not fighting” and avoidance instead if that situation arises… but I understand that would be difficult for those in law enforcement for most of their lives. So I guess you have a plan. We just disagree as to how effective it would be.
You’re are absolutely deluded if you think any level of technology is going to protect you from 100 knife wielding maniacs trying to kill you in your home.
Wrong.
“Whatever happens, we have got
The Maxim gun, and they have not.”
-Hilaire Belloc
I suppose these hero’s in blue would have avoided this if better armed too:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jagvYIMJyzU
“Greenville County needs to make an example of these cops.”
Don’t hold your breath while you wait for that to happen. It’s not a part of the culture in Green Vegas. It’s on the West Side, not the West End.
You know Greenville.
“Greenville Cops Beat Man Senseless At Walmart”
If you are shopping at Walmart I am not sure how much sense you would have before the beating started . . .
Visit the White Horse Walmart some time. It is ground zero for “people of Walmart”. Some “interesting” characters shop there.
My hometown,family friend from Ohio, Attorney General Mike DeWine, has convened a grand jury in Greene County (Ohio) to investigate the shooting death of a black male at a Wal Mart in Beavercreek, Ohio. A woman had a “medical condition” and died running out of the store with her daughter.
The perp was apparently running around the store with a bb/air gun pointing it at children and when the police asked him to put the weapon down, he refused.
Perp’s wife was at home with his two children and pregnant with his third. He was at Wal Mart with his girlfriend.
go back to ohio
When you shop at Walmart, you know the risks.
I don’t know what’s more disgusting, the video or the fucking Ebonics comments. Why the fuck do black people skip every other word in sentences… “for real”? No dumbass, “for fake”.
Racist scum you’re worrying about what black people are saying, and this man is gettting beat by two dirty pigs.
“Dirty pigs?!” Dude, the 60’s called and want their lingo back. Back to your VW van, now, and move along…
hey, pigs are still dirty today.. the analogy is hardly overworked.. pigs are dirty, smelly, fat and wallow, sleep in, and consume shit with their food, and will bite you if you aren’t careful. They don’t understand you when you talk to them.
And they make disgusting noises.
That describes the suspects not the police.
Apparently, the police *are* the suspects.
Wow, man, that’s pretty well thought out. Even kooks know that the vast majority of our LE officers are honest, and all but a very small percentage would risk their lives to save theirs. The “dirty pigs” nonsense makes people look like stoners and kooks, so I actually like it when they whip it out…
Thanks.
Domesticated pigs aren’t so bad. They’re more intelligent than dogs.
You’re sick. You need psychiatric help.
Thanks for your concern, but I had mandatory mental health screenings for almost 20 years. Of course, those were from the federal government, so I guess I should have taken my clean bill of health with a grain of salt. I’ll get checked out and let you know what the shrink says…
I used to raise hogs . I gained almost as much respect for them as I have lost on LE the last few years Don’t call cops pigs. It’s demeaning to pork.
I’ve known good cops. I don’t mean cops that give me a warning on car registration, or going a little too fast. I don’t mean cops that have a good sense of humor, either.
But I’m going the extra mile by saying most of them have good family lives, and their job doesn’t affect the way they think about people. Most don’t have stereotypes, or classify people into mind-numbingly ignorant groups, or find guns a pleasure only eclipsed by the female breast, or love the sound of their leather utility belt and holster squeaking as they lean into your window at a traffic stop…Most cops are just like you and me.
I think I’m going to be ill.
Anyway, what I don’t understand is why when a cop shoots an unarmed kid in the street after getting punched, no one thinks he might *not* be a pig… well, except of course, people who find the idea of law enforcement itself offensive, and just an excuse for a mouth with a badge to act out his personal vendettas on the people he’s supposed to serve “by the book.”
Sorry, but in the case I’m guessing you are referencing about “shooting an unarmed kid after getting punched”, if that giant were coming at me in an aggressive manner, he’d have been shot then, too. A punch to the head, contrary to movies and TV, is not necessarily a little thing. A guy in Orangeburg died a week or two ago after getting punched in the head by a disgruntled employee.
Don’t wanna get shot? Don’t punch someone in the head without good reason and justification, especially if you know the guy you are about to punch has a gun. It really is that simple. Of course, it is also Darwinism at its pinnacle, too.
We aren’t in disagreement about what would feel good to us, should we find ourselves in that same situation.
What we are talking about is the harm it does to the relationship between the “little people,” and those we place our trust in. It seems to me that the way authority treats our least loved members is the margin that defines the entire playing field.
Cutting people’s hands off for stealing might give you an idea of what I mean… or their head for adultery.
There must be a change in society by the knowledge that there are people with so much power, they can kill you and need not even acknowledge that it was not an eye for an eye, but a death for a punch.
oh ok so those were pigs marching in Ferguson. Thanks.
Obviously some were.
And still have some good use as analogies.
Shhhhhhhhhhhh.
Be cool, It’s the Fuzz.
TBG doesn’t dig your rap, Man.
: )
“TBG doesn’t dig your rap, Man.”
Shh – MATB is a hipster and good friend to his teenage children.
Another idiot, talking about the fvcking 60’s. mofo i’m in my 30’s and a female…i don’t know a damn thing about that lingo in the 60’s, And they are dirty pigs like you.
I don’t know what’s more amusing, the fact that you’re using the tired old hippie lingo or the fact that you’re so clueless and inarticulate about it. Funny either way…
Mofo, you’re the inarticulate clueless one. Who gives a fvck about some lingo from the 60’s as your old @ss claim it’s from. Instead of being outraged about that dirty pig beating this man, your old @ss is commenting on some old @ss lingo you used in the 60’s. Go use your gun on yourself….now, laught at that!
Take some deep breaths, mouthbreather. I’m only in my 40’s, so I didn’t party much (or even breathe, for that matter) in the 60’s. Who said I have a gun? Finally, why would I shoot myself over your trolling? I try not to shoot people when I can avoid it, even dumb ones. Go troll elsewhere; I’m out.
Are you a hippy?
No, he wasn’t loved by his parents.
Far from it.
Seems to me he was resisting arrest. He was stupid, but didn’t appear senseless or injured at all. Looks like they made a good arrest. No gun shots, no choke hold, no kicks. A few punches to gain compliance.
I read somewhere that punching a person in the temple with bare knuckles against a concrete floor covered with tile was not a good idea…
It’s not good on the knuckles either. It’s settled law. You can punch as long as they are resisting arrest and are not restrained.
Only an idiot could say some isht like that.
It is suggested they use the heel of the palm when striking in defence or to restrain. It causes less injury to the officer. They are trained to strike in the face.
http://www.policeone.com/legal/articles/2866927-When-a-cop-throws-a-punch-to-the-face/
Excellent article! I have participated in several sheriff’s and city police “citizens academy” offerings and learned a lot about techniques. restrictions, etc. I recommend that anyone interested sign up for one. Perhaps at a later time I will discuss more about my experiences.
One instance was when, on a ride-along (the officer already knew I was up for whatever) a call came in to him about 10:30 pm regarding a medical emergency on a rural road. He hit 115 mpg on the divided highway until he turned off and then gunned it around several intersecting roads to the scene. He took charge and provided assistance until medical services arrived while I controlled and directed traffic. Yes, I was impressed with that officer.
Take another hit off your meth pipe…..
You’re not me.
White people use meth…fvck you.
It’s not good on the knuckles either. It’s settled law. You can punch as long as they are resisting arrest and are not restrained.
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Well you used to be able to choke, too.
Concussions and death can arise from punches to the head. And he was restrained.
The Choke hold is still legal but some law enforcement agencies forbid it’s use.
See comment below. The courts recognize injuries may result.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chokehold
Statistics will eventually bear out which restraining activities produce disproportionate injuries. Resisting authority is not the same thing as threatening authority. Injury for non-compliance is eventually going to be seen for what it is – emotional indignance escalating pain to injury as a means of gaining “respect.”
You can claim that war is peace and injury is discipline only so long. There may be a little lag, but eventually someone comments on the king’s clothes.
There has been a reduction in injury to suspects. It is still a serious problem. The incident in this article was not an example of police abuse. It is almost impossible to get the wrist of a suspect in position to cuff without the use violence.
The incident in this article was not an example of police abuse.
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“police abuse” – a deprecated phrase once used to describe excessive force.
There has been a reduction in injury to suspects.
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Maybe retiring the Iron Maiden as an interrogation tool helped?
Historians have ascertained that Johann Philipp Siebenkees created the history of it (iron maiden) as a hoax in 1793.
Yeah, well that may be true.. they may not have used it before 1793, but they built some afterwards anyway… I was just musing that maybe the idea that we had advanced to the point that we look down on its use as an interrogation tool today, kept them from the brink.
The concept of proportionality of justice has been lost in society, BT being a prime example.
Escalation now is the accepted norm. Idiocracy already in play.
you lie constanly and i have grown tired of you
Don’t you realize that telling me that you find me so offensive and immoral that I’m having a negative effect on your state of mind, would be exactly what I was trying to achieve, and provide me the prize of having made you feel the way I do when I’m surrounded by idiots – with no effort on my part?
I would think you’d rather punch me in the head a few times to express your frustration, instead of becoming my bitch.
Good thing you spelled it out. It’s doubtful the dullard would have understood “counting coup” or the like, though “I win!” might have sunk in a smidgeon.
I learned that from the RRG, when they went out to collect death threats.
Mr. Wilson is that you?
” . . .against a concrete floor . . . .”
Damn that Wal-Mart – can’t they afford to soften up their floors a bit?!?
I spent an entire summer as a floor at Walmart. It’s no picnic, let me tell you.
If you read it on the internets it’s not true.
uhhh… bon jour!
SHit, Im in Greenville. Nip that shit in the bud.
I’ve called the cops to your house and was sure to tell them to give you the 911 treatment. Your stay in Greenville will be nipped in the bud with a brutal beating.
Looks good to me! I’m not sure where the thought that a cop should have to fight fair comes from? We don’t pay these guys enough to get beat on as a matter of routine when dealing with these idiots. They should not have to wrestle or beg a person to comply.
Bet he doesn’t tell anybody his name is 911 again.
You’re a f-ing idiot!!
If these stupid people would behave and act like sensible human beings, we would not have this stuff.
Interesting. Noticed that the video doesn’t show what led up to “911’s” arrest. What ever he was doing was bad enough to get the cops called to a Wal Mart (how bad is that?) and for a cops to have already used a Taser. But none of that made the video.
What made the video was a guy not listening to the cops who had already been tased and the cops having to go hands on with him. Look, cops fight to win, and they fight to win EVERY TIME! Good ole 911 had plenty of opportunity to look up and say, “you’ve got me, I give up” and be taken to jail. But, he thought that he could take the two cops and he lost.
I suppose the good folks of Greenville would understand completely if the cops looked around and said, “Well, he’s not listening to us so we’re outta here. Good luck folks!” I can only image everyone starting the “gubmint employee sucking the taxpayer dry, never doing any work” nonsense. I guess the cops should have not shown up at all? Or maybe polled the crowd to see what they thought the cops should do. Police work by survey.
By the way, I only heard the cops say, “stand up” and not yell it. And, when he didn’t do that, they picked him up. There was a time when the cops would have dragged him across the floor.
When you have someone on the ground, hands behind their back, why would you repeatedly punch them in the face? They had already won. Cops fight to win, then once they win, they humiliate, they emasculate, and they terrorize.
These two cops don’t make people feel protected, they make them feel afraid. Cops should NEVER be judge, jury, and executor. Cops are peace officers, that’s it. They keep the peace. They shouldn’t be bringing about needless violence.
Each and every citizen of the United States should have the expectation of not being beaten or killed by the police without the utmost justification. It is not incumbent upon a free citizenry to take steps to avoid being assaulted or murdered by the representatives of law enforcement. It is, instead, the duty of police officers to act scrupulously to protect citizens with the absolute minimum level of force necessary — even if sometimes it involves protecting citizens from themselves.
Each and every citizen of the United States should have the expectation of not being beaten or killed by the police without the utmost justification.
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what do you want eggs in your beer? Just be happy beer is legal!
Police are here to protect and serve… you want to make sure they think you’re the one they’re protecting and serving, or they’ll fuck you up.
What I do when I see a cop is get my “papers” in order, and look at the ground in front of me as I pass by them. If I can, I change lanes, walk to the other side of the street, or go inside.
America is the land of the brave.
Cops make me feel uncomfortable too, I just avoid them like the plague. I’m sure there are those hear that will assume the reason is that I’m a criminal of some sort, rather than just rational.
Is that marijuana I smell coming from that house over there? Let’s go in and see! AHA! look on the coffee table! Absinthe! That’s illegal in the United States! Call the wagon!
Let’s tear out these walls and see if we can find their stash of cash and drugs!
Good point really, almost everyone is breaking laws without even knowing it…so I should probably say something along the lines of “Even if I might be a criminal, it’s probably not a crime that actually has a victim.”
The irony is, our fondling fathers were bootleggers and seditionists who understood the need to protect the majority against the nitpicking “do gooders” and grudge holders – it was pretty clear to them, that if the nosy busybodies passed laws that invaded your private space to smell your ass – you need higher laws to make sure it was damned hard to do. Fences make good neighbors.
The busybodies have almost knocked down all of our fences, and they work tirelessly every day for their god of privacy invasion to get unfettered access to the fragrant folds of our anuses.
“come in here officers… now if you stand on this stool, and look down through these binoculars, through those two branches, and the curtains down there, you can just make out that they are engaged in sexual congress that is specifically forbidden in this state!… and she wears totally inappropriate clothes to church, as well!”
“The irony is, our fondling fathers were bootleggers and seditionists who
understood the need to protect the majority against the nitpicking “do
gooders” and grudge holders”
I’m not so sure the “do gooders & grudge holders” aren’t the majority, it’s a bit depressing.
I’m not a a believer, but CS Lewis is so good in many areas, specifically to your point:
“Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good
of its victim may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated, but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience.”
I’m not so sure the “do gooders & grudge holders” aren’t the majority, it’s a bit depressing.
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Yet another irony: They were protecting the do gooders and grudge holders too.
They were like the first truly cool dudes in all of history. It’s not all that surprising that if you grow a huge Hindu Kush single bud plant in your back yard, somehow totally undetectable, that your dog will jump up, bite the top bud off, eat it, and still be munching on the seeds when you show up an hour later to harvest it.
*here
The only time “911” had his hands behind his back was after his hands were in handcuffs. Amazingly, the cops were not using any force on “911” once he was handcuffed. Did you watch the video? There was no humiliation (other than 911 doing that to himself), no emasculation, no terrorizing (sorry for the lack of parallel construction). After handcuffing, the officers picked the guy up by the shoulders and walked him out without any other strikes or “accidents.” I submit that the other shoppers felt just fine, after all they continued shopping and filming the cops.
Stephen, at what point should the cops use force to “keep the peace?” If you’re in Wal Mart and 911 wants the beer in your cart,and you won’t let him have it, should the cops let 911 take your beer? After all, no force will be used, the peace will be kept for 911.
There was a time when they would have just shot him. Yawn. Wake me up when we get there again.
There even was a time when the cops would be properly equipped with an old-fashioned “Billy” stick and a lead shot loaded “sap” (blackjack). That used to get things done quickly, and the cops could then transport him safely by ambulance or morgue truck. Ahhh! For the days gone by.
Is this not the same Walmart where the lady working in the bank (inside the store) was stabbed to death during the Christmas shopping season a couple of years ago? Wally World stayed open while the police investigation was completed. I couldn’t decide which was more appalling…the potential contamination of the crime scene or the decision to remain open with a brutally murdered corpse by the check out lines. Little Tijuana, indeed.
si senor esta Burritto, sc. I know of two cop killings in this zip code over the last decade. One was when a deputy was wrestling a suspect just like this and lost his gun on a Saturday afternoon. As it turns out one of these locals had called the cops because the con had tried to break into her trailer. As he fought the guy and screamed for help nobody would come over.
WYFF’s idea of broadcast journalism is to regurgitate official reports and press releases. The station’s fat and lazy reporters aren’t competent to cover a quilting bee — unless there’s free food!
When exactly was he “fighting back” people? He was face down on the floor in handcuffs. With two officers on top they had him .What they did was overboard to say the least. The man wasn’t fighting back.Not sure what led up to the arrest but the fact that he was in handcuffs and couldn’t really fight back yet still got punched in the face repeatedly is police brutality don’t you think??????
Ummmm watch the video again- your eyes failed you or you Ned glasses. He was NOT handcuffed while being struck.
blind bitch
This site has evidently completed the slide into madness that it began a year or two ago. This video will be reviewed by the agency and prosecutors, and although it doesn’t show the whole scene there is nothing in the video that will result in one ounce of drama for those deputies. It doesn’t translate to video well, but to anything other than anti-gov’t, libertarian Kool-Aid drinking, authority haters it is painfully obvious that this kook was NOT complying with the cops’ orders and was actively resisting by tensing up, refusing to be handcuffed, etc. Only in the FITS world should cops have to “play fair,” let the obviously off-kilter jackass rest for a minute, and gently roll around with him until he either grabs one of the cops’ weapons, produces his own, or (best case) simply escapes. Cops in most larger jurisdictions fight people every week, but even with the familiarity it’s still dirty, dangerous work. I’m glad I don’t have to do it, and I’m glad the folks who toe the FITS political line will remain below 5% of the electorate for the next hundred years or so. Cowardice is a strong term, and it stupid to use it to describe the actions in this fairly unremarkable video.
You are a piece of sh-t. Shut the f–k up.
Very well said. I guess I’ll have to shut up now.
Or you can go drown at the beach.
Another stunning, well thought out position. Your camp is killing it!
Maybe he’s channeling death for a punch.
Oh, and it really helps them gain control by consistently beating him in the head? That just makes the suspect want to get away! Get real and do some research. Cops are trigger happy and drunk with power. The guy did nothing to deserve this. Cops don’t know how to handle drunks and the mentally ill. They need more training!
You have no idea what the guy did, unless you were there and witnessed what transpired prior to the video. Nor do I. I was merely commenting generally on the misinformed statements on here regarding the lawful use of force. That’s a different scene entirely from all of the kooky “dirty pigs” stuff that stories like this inevitably bring out. Research? I teach this crap, and did it for a long time back in the day. Cops deal with drunk and mentally ill people EVERY DAY, and most get pretty good at it (detention center folks get even better). Beating a person is, unfortunately, an excellent way control them. Fancy martial arts stuff like shoulder pins and leveraged restraints work great in movies, but less so when the bad guy gets an actual vote. Look, it’s not like I didn’t know putting the actual case law and training guidelines out on here wouldn’t bring all you folks out of the woodwork, but they are what they are. You may think you would have handled that situation much better, but I bet those two cops have rolled around on the floor with mentally ill persons dozens and dozens of times; have you? You may think you could gently reason with the guy, or simply keep tasing him until you went through a few battery packs and eventually he would stand up, apologize, and cooperate fully. That’s just not reality.
I’ve seen several videos of cops being on top of a guy who is screaming in pain and trying to get away from the blows. How does that help them gain control? And very often it’s more than one cop and they’re all kicking and hitting.
I hear you (I’ve seen those too). We’re talking about this one, though, which does not show that. I didn’t say (nor have I *ever* said) that idiot cops don’t exist, only that these two cops in this video don’t fall into that camp. This is just an emotional topic that strikes a nerve with lots of folks, and that makes for lots of bad logic and circular conversation.
That is all well and good, but a rabbit punch to the back of the head and back of the neck is still illegal in professional boxing and MMA yet 13 of 17+ blows land to the base of the skull and back of the head of this “upstanding citizen”. Argue out all the other factors you want about what a dill-hole the suspect was, but the rabbit punches make him a victim and give him ample access to all sorts of tax dollars or get his case thrown out in court by the right public defender.
Let’s just wait and see. The courts (strangely enough) don’t use MMA rules as their review criteria, and this debate went mind-numbing 27 posts ago.
I didn’t realize that tasing is a treatment for mental illness.
Bizarro- who said that it was? Electroshock weapons are, however, an *extremely* effective “treatment” for some of the physical manifestations of mental illness like assaults, resisting arrest, etc. No grown up believes that cops and detention folks should treat mental illness- the lack of leadership from Congress and state legislatures on MH issues has simply created the current environment, wherein the criminal justice system is saddled with the mentally ill (who often receive the only treatment they will ever get behind bars).
Ignorance is bliss, and you are INSANELY happy.
Bravo Mike. Yours is one of the most-articulate, well-stated and accurate posts I’ve ever seen on here. You said what I was thinking, but I did not even know where to start.
FITS has gotten so LIBERAL-tarian, he is now beginning to draw recruits for the Weather Underground, and New Black Panthers.
I guess almost anyone who publishes a website, or at least those with no real-life or real-world experience, must go left. The urge must be like thirst in a life raft, with saltwater being the only option. FITS is gulping the ocean around him, to the point he is bloated and gagging on that which he thought would satisfy him.
GT. You and Mike lost it on this one. It is obvious from the film that the cops were out of control. How many times was the guy hit unnecessarily by the cop? Three men should have been able to lift him up and cuff him. Not to mention being tazed twice. These cops, all three of them should be reprimanded severely for excessive force. LE everywhere has gotten the idea they can beat hell out of some jerk and gat away with it every time. Until someone with the authority puts a stop to it more and more people will get beat on tazed and killed for no reason except the cop getting his rocks off.
Somebody was right, and somebody was wrong. In this case, it is not an absolute. But I refuse to side w/ the disease in this society over those who have to purge it. FITS is trying to manipulate you against the cops.
Several cops are killed every year…have you ever seen a video – or written lamenting- on FITS about a filthy criminal shooting a cop trying to do his job?
GT. You and Mike lost it on this one.
Now. Now.
It wasn’t GT’s to lose.
Being lumped in with GT should give Mike pause, though.
Being lumped in with GT should give Mike pause, though.
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Welcome aboard the Train of Truth, bro….PS: got a Felonious Punk reference on there.
Ha!!! “Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone…”
Who da funny man now?! ;-)
TBG be plenty funny.
he’s following me too.
That has a really eerie ring to it, no?
It’s like toilet paper stuck to my shoe.
That’s quality analogizing there, bro…
Scary – they’re after me too…
“they’re”
Heh!
When your using the royal wee to refer to Damned Tango, you should use ‘their” as in
Scary – their after me to…
I can only imagine the terror when you saw that, like a girl driving home from a bar noticing that the creepy guy who was staring at her all night has been following her back to her house.
That guy was almost 7 feet tall. I would LOVE to see you arrest that guy without punching him a few times. All he had to do was comply and those guys never know what kind of cool belt-buckle blade or pocket shooter these jackoffs will produce. Fuck you losers. When the nuts hit your neighborhood we’ll see which side you take.
If he was being violent, or actually resisting arrest like trying to run away then yeah they can use force… They shouldn’t have to hit a guy just rolling around on the ground. Those lazy fuckers just didn’t feel like putting the efforts to wrestle the guys arms behind his back.
What’s the appropriate force to be used against a guy running away from cops?
I’ve never seen anyone run while curled up in the fetal position.
That wasn’t the question or his comment.
However, since you brought it up, what’s the appropriate force to be used against a guy curled up in the fetal position?
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However, since you brought it up, what’s the appropriate force to be used against a guy curled up in the fetal position?
Any force, of course. How’s the officer to know if the guy in the fetal position with cops piled on him screaming at him and tazing him is actually scared for his life? What if the guy is trying to throw the officers off guard with some relatively unknown kung fu technique? Better turn his face into pulp just to be safe.
Even a blind squirrel…
A stopped clock is right twice a day…
Etc., etc… ;-)
If you’re willing to wait for it, here’s your clue that you’re simply misinformed- if it’s that obvious, prosecutors (and the agency) will have to land on these guys with both feet. They’ll also lose a kajillion dollar civil suit. None of that will happen, because you’re wrong not only on case law, but procedure and physiological reality. This kind of stuff is very emotional and brings out extremely visceral responses, but (luckily for the cops) grownups and professionals have to use the law and procedure to analyze situations like this. Three men can’t usually lift a resisting person and handcuff him without causing even more injury. In the vast majority of cases it is best to subdue a resisting suspect first, then handcuff. Rolling around with kooks and drunks may look like fun, but it’s not. I have worked cases of actual police excessive force, and they jump out at you like a sore thumb. Uncontrolled rage, severely beaten suspects, history of bad acts- I’ll bet you none of that pops up here. Some people really don’t like cops (or authority), but cops get that. That doesn’t change the law, however.
Oh, they were stressed. Well, tough shit. They knew the dangers of the job when they signed up. There are three kinds of people who become cops:
1) People who actually give a shit about the job, and take it seriously.
2) Weakling cowards who want to make sure no one can ever beat them up again and get away with it.
3) Psycopaths looking for an excuse to put the hurt on some, legally.
Most cops I’ve known have fit into category 2, and the least in category 1.
Who said anything about being stressed? You obviously have a chip on your shoulder about cops, and it’s hard to logically debate with folks who throw around crap like “psychopaths” and “weakling cowards.” Every field (including yours, assuming you have a job) has bad apples. Most discussions of bad plumbers or preachers don’t come with the emotional baggage associated with cop-hating as a sport. Sounds like one of the boys in blue may have tagged your chic…sorry about that.
There are some bad apples among jobless folks, too.
I prefer to think of them as potatoes.
Turned “euwe max” into the feds Friday night after he/she threatened Texas Governor Rick Perry.
He has a problem.
Make sure he/she was turned into Texas authorities. The liberals hate, and fear, Perry to the point, they’d come after you for trying to save his life.
Also: I think there are 2 or 3 on here who do a bulk of the posting. Some of them may be paid. Democrats are dirty, and they are desperate. And FITS allows anything, regardless of the threat or vulgarity. So liberals have a playground to be as dirty, and dangerous, as they want to be…and that’s pretty filthy.
I’m sure they ignored you.
Turned “euwe max” into the feds Friday night after he/she threatened Texas Governor Rick Perry.
He has a problem.
What’s it like living at Bob Jones “University,” dreaming of long walks on the beach, holding hands with Miss Lindsey? Have they allowed blacks to attend yet?
What’s it like living in a crack house, devoid of your brain?
I wouldn’t know, you tell me.
As long as the LEO shouted “STOP RESISTING!!” before each punch…it’s legit, right?
What is hilarious is the ones who are very obviously resisting arrest and fighting the cops and the cop is yelling at them to “stop resisting” and the idiot perp keeps saying, “I’m not resisting”.
Yes, dumbass, you ARE resisting.
Wait until it is you or a member of your family.
Generally speaking, members of my family don’t wander around in a Wal-Mart creating disturbances (nor do they walk down the middle of the street at night, hang around corners known to be open-air drug markets, or go around assaulting folks). Strangely enough, therefore, they are not assaulted by cops. I did have a relative popped for DUI a few years back; although he was running his suck like the smartass dope that he is, he cooperated with the arrest and (strangely enough, again) was not assaulted by the cop. Weeeeeeeeeeeird.
It’s not emotional for me, so I just can’t get down to the visceral level on this stuff like some on here have. If a member of my family resists arrest some day, I would fully expect for him to take a little ass-whipping with him to the pokey. Big boy rules…
What I was getting at in my comment was that since the Patriot Act it seems to me that the old cop on the beat has turned into a “homeland security officer”. Interestingly a lot of the conservative emails that come across my desk have changed from “law and order conservative” the cop is always right, to have the least amount of contact with police as possible. Don’t talk to them except to answer specific questions. They are looking and waiting for you to say something or do something out of line so they can have the excuse to take action. A long way from the days back in the 70s and 80s when we would sit around the table at a restaurant in the wee hours of the morning drinking coffee between trips and calls. I can recall many night when this officer would see my truck at a restaurant in West Cola and come in and we would have coffee together. Would that still happen today ? I really don’t know but am almost afraid to try it .
I hear ya, but stick to my extended family example / analogy. I don’t know where you are, but here in the Fifteenth Circuit (Horry / Georgetown counties) we seem to have the usual assortment of beat cops. A few percentage points’ worth of fat-assed slacker-looking types who probably can’t run 100 yards even with someone chasing them, another few points’ worth of angry-looking badge heavy types who obviously got picked on in high school, and then the big bell curve “hump in the middle” of the guys and gals out there doing the best they can under crappy conditions. I can’t help myself from critiquing them when I see them operating out on the streets, and believe me when I say I can be their harshest critic. I critique them on an objective, legal, procedural basis, not emotions. Long ago, I used to be the cop whose meal got interrupted about every night, so I still buy cops’ meals when I see them out now and then (without getting into the reason with them). That doesn’t mean I’m emotionally vested and think they do no wrong; I just know how things are in the real world in which they operate, that’s all. We all have our viewpoints…
The imitable Fred Reed…
http://fredoneverything.net/CopNotes.shtml
Ol’ Fred can be a bit over the top at times, but he definitely gets it…good stuff.
Like X 1,000!
I like Fred, but there’s a reason they scaled back on his postings @ LRC.
I will turn as fast as I can with one or the other in my hand. You have to shoot or not.
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I will be running away from you while you are shooting at me. You hit me in the arm, and I stop and turn around. You keep shooting, hit my right arm 5 more times, and then put one in my eye.. and as I fall forwards towards you, just before my head hits the ground, I get one in the top of my head.
You have to admit it, or not.
It’s a jungle out there.
If you want to blow them, fine. It’s your prerogative. But some of use don’t automatically bend over for authority figures. We’re Americans. We don’t like authority, period.
Sooooo…buying a random meal (which people also do for soldiers, folks down on their luck, etc.) equates, in your world, to a blow job. I’m starting to get a picture of where your head’s at…
I’m with you, Mike. That jackass had it coming.
To the morons: this wasn’t exactly what I’d call “police brutality”. I’ve seen a cop killer captured and then beaten beyond recognition, THAT is police brutality. And even in that case I find it totally justified.
At the tender age of 13, i recall being seriously disappointed with the two city cops from my hometown who only broke the nose of Grover Brevard, Jr after he murdered a cop and friend of mine that day. They later explained their reasons, but it still sucked.
Spoken like a true bully, calling people who disagree with you names. Geez…come out of your padded cell much? How is beating someone into oblivion acceptable? I hate to imagine what you think is “totally justified” punishment for babies who need diaper changes at 3:00 a.m.
You showed yourself to be a massive hypocrite in the first two sentences.
Yeah, beating that guy up is 100% acceptable, morally. His name is Esteban Carpio and he’s rotting in RI jail for life. The guy grabbed a gun from a cop while he was being held for questioning about a non-fatal stabbing, shot the cop dead, then jumped out a third floor window to escape. The police officer this scumbag killed had a family. The murderer’s family was mad about the “brutality” but no one got in trouble for it. Which is good.
Coming from someone whose avatar is George Castanza, I’m not surprised by your response. Beating someone to a pulp is never “morally” acceptable, I don’t care who it’s done by, and I don’t care about the reason. The police officer had a family. So do most innocent murder victims…so I guess you’re saying that in every case where a person is murdered and leaves behind a family, the murderer, if caught, should be beaten beyond recognition by the police? Interesting.
For the police officers who apprehended this scum it’s personal. There was a case a few weeks ago when a man walked into a room in his house and found the babysitter who was a family friend for years molesting his young son. The pedophile was beaten senseless before the father called 911. The man told the 911 operator that the pervert would need an ambulance and that he had beaten him up. No charges were filed against the man who beat up the pedophile.
Welcome to the real world.
Finally someone with a brain, thank you!
Uh, yeah, I’m not libertarian and I don’t think cops should get away with beating the shit out of helpless people.
That must be a Republican thing.
These dirty pigs are scums.
Authority… or Freedom?
The problem with authority is that it doesn’t see itself as a threat to civilization, but a guarantor. Freedom may tend towards anarchy, but it is easier to persuade to the pedagogical anarchist, with reason, why “no system” is life denying, and “common will” produces the advantage of scale. Once the reason for a system is understood to enable the implementation of the common will, there is only left to prioritize life-affirming goals, allocate resources, set standards, define verification and validation procedures, agree on design and begin work.
once the anarchist buys into the benefit, the authority figures who are inevitably placed “in charge” of the various stages of implementation, are less concerned with the success of the project than to amass as much power as possible. The power, they reason, is necessary to eliminate inefficiency, waste, and graft in”their” organization. Slowly the power is used to transform the authority figure into the avatar of the stage they represent, and the abstraction blinds them to their part in the success of the big picture. Unless you have an Il Duce to replace the heads of the stages of implementation, they simply become less and less relevant to the system the common will granted access to the resources for in the first place.
The will of the people should be strong enough to refactor the system by removing actors, and changing the process.. but as we can see, the devil is in the details. The people want the result, and don’t care to know why the implementation isn’t going well… so they complain without the passion to analyze the problem critically and recommend specific changes… and authority becomes complacent from lack of annoying oversight.
This condition can continue indefinitely.. and does.
The biggest mistake that has been made, in my opinion, to try and correct this is to try to instill discipline in the “people.” Remove their temptation to focus on recreation, implement punishments for those who are “inefficient,” and introduce incentives for those who marry.
The problem isn’t with “the people,” the problem is in “the system.” Unfortunately, all of this could be described by the evolution of adaptive species over eons of statistical failure… not intelligent design. We must continue to have passion and accumulate information, analyze and feedback, and spread it around… so that in a million years or so, with higher IQs, better communication, and more selective fucking, meta evolution will have refined it all.
No offense, but good luck with all that. In fairness to you, maybe you realize it and are just being hopeful.
I have a positive outlook – maybe it’s because I can see how absurd it all is, but it doesn’t seem to matter to anyone else.
Well, it’s not that it doesn’t matter, there’s a small number of us that agree(vocally)…who really know what % the silent population is…but it’s more a situation/feeling(reality?) where there’s not much anyone can do about it…until one day where the proverbial cork pops…if that happens.
It could be a Soviet Union situation in the end game, where it all just dissolves unceremoniously and relatively non-violently via economic reality where even the foot soldiers of oppression aren’t getting their checks and stop caring.
*knows
Look at it this way… we can fall on the ground when they cut off our arms or legs, and bite our enemies to death!
Never give up!
Never give in!
lol…shades of Monty Python
Good time to sing “Always look on the bright side of life.”
I was standing just off screen on the left. From what the manager told me afterward, they asked him to leave, he made it to the door, then freaked out and wouldn’t go outside. He went back to the furniture section and sat on the chairs, so they called the cops. I walked over when I heard them taze him the first time. He was lying on the ground and they yelled at him to roll on his stomach. He just looked stunned, he didn’t even say any thing. They tazed him again and yelled at him to roll over _while_ he was flopping around. Not like you can comply while you are doing the kickin’ chicken. He managed to roll on his side, but the cop came up and kicked him. Not in the back to make him roll over, but in the chest, which rolled him on his back. They tried to taze him a third time, because you could hear it, but one of the electrodes had fallen out so it didn’t work. That’s about where the video started. When both cops had him on the ground trying to cuff him, all he was doing was curling up in the fetal position. The cop tried to pull his arm behind his back, but he grabbed his elbow and had no leverage. Instead of grabbing his wrist for a better grip, he started punching him in the head. Which just made him ball up more. The whole time he was obviously out of it, and just seemed confused by the instructions. He never fought back.
Who trained these cops? Do they not learn anything about joint locks or pressure points? One skinny guy who isn’t doing anything to resist except curl up in a ball, and the best tactic they have is to punch him in the head like a school yard bully? They can’t figure out how to get leverage to just cuff him already? I’m just sick over this.
Calm down.. .they probably walk around in a mental movie… the one where the beefed-up testosterone-addled flag-stander is regaling his admirers with stories of danger and heroism… where the crack addict stuck him in the wrist with an AIDS-infected needle, but when the scuffle was over, relieved, he saw the syringe flopping about, stuck to his leather watchband… and then takes it off so they can all see the little hole it made.
At night, settling down for a few beers and an episode or two of “Cops,” they see the take-down maneuvers, and the subsequent swaggers… the matter-of-fact, and out-of-breath blow-by-blow description by the officer to his peer… the little jokes… and the summary music before the commercial… his whole day is infused with manly meaning once again.
“Thank you for your service.”
Have you seen who qualifies for city cops? They’re one tier above university police and two above mall cops. They know that and cop an attitude that they’re bad asses who make $30,000/yr.
I know that, and you know that – but people think we’re drinking kool-aid and not appreciating the difficult job these pricks are doing for us.
county cops dumbass.
SO, the fact that I went to grad school and CHOSE to serve my community (and effectively sacrifice my financial future) as a local cop fits your narrative… how? Seriously, no issue with not laying hands on people, just don’t whine when no criminals are being caught.
If you choose to resist arrest, don’t whine when you lose the fight. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.
You sound like part of the problem.
You sir are the problem. Take off that uniform and you will be a scared little boy
Ignorant comment! Someone has to uphold the law or YOU will be the scared little boy!!! When you have thugs at your door and no one to call or your wife, son or daughter is attacked and you have only yourself to defend them!!! I say if you think you can do the job better you need to get on it!!! If you think you would let all the pot smoking, drunk drivers and murders go free then lets see how you would like the results! When your family is hit by a drunk driver or someone that is getting high with his buddies or your shot at in the streets we will see who is the scared little boy!!! And that is the TRUTH! trughmonger??? Right! hehe
Pressure points & joint locks sure works wonders on someone who is stoned or shitbat crazy. Confused by the instructions? Really? Maybe the Wal-Mart employees should have been more sympathetic to the dude’s needs. Hug a thug?
I suppose the possibility that he had loss of muscle control after the Tasing is a bit of a stretch, right?
You lose muscle control DURING tazing, and regain it immediately after. Been there, got tazed.
Maybe you should be a cop! I love all these know it all’s!
Thank you for the rest of the story. I’m sure you’ll be attacked by the “good people” soon.
I sure hope that you are willing to testify. These cops need to be in jail. Being a retired employee of SCDC, believe me the rest of the population there will know exactly what to do.
Now that the entire story is coming out about this cretin perhaps you would like to re-think your ARTICLE FITS! This ordeal lasted 30 minutes, the guy has a record for assaulting a cop, he was on something, and he would not stop resisting. Sure, nobody likes to see another human pummeled because it is grotesque but if that guy had gotten up and grabbed that lady in pink and twisted her neck these same people would be screaming that the cops didn’t PROTECT THEM.
You got your goddamned clicks but you also took the wrong side just like the ignorant AMY HILL. Someone below put it best: maybe the cops should have said, ok dude, you win, we can’t take you, get back to your terrorizing, we’ll head on to the next call.
My statement is if u were not there to witness what the fuck happen then SHUT THE FUCK UP. Everybody always got there fame opinion about something but if the shit happened to u or one of your loved ones then u would be raising hell and wanting someone to talk up for u. 2 wrongs don’t make a right. Just because he did things previously in his past does not give anyone the right to treat him like that during this incident. The truth of the matter is police are trained when why and how to use force on someone. And if u are tazed and not responding then please tell me why in the hell would the next move be to punch them in the heaf. What are they trying to do, beat the response out of him? Really????? So as far as your dumb ass comment about the cops doing nothing then I hope if you ever come across a time when u need them they do nothing or better yet if u are giving a directive from them and don’t move fast enough or don’t respond then they jump on you and beat the hell out of you!!!!! For Amy baby keep telling exactly what you saw. Don’t let these dam bullies on here intimidate you at all. Hell now a days bullying is taking serious so maybe I should call the cops and report 30 Up vote and everybody else who is attempting to intimidate u and let the cops beat the hell out of them while we all sit and watch and take the cops side
Yeah you’re right about all that. I beleive if a police officer is doing his/her job and after 30 minutes of losing a battle it’s time to punch people in the face so they can get back to watching netflix in their cars. Get real there are rules to follow, people that work in customer service don’t go around punching people in the face. You have to remember that the police are there to provice a service. Sometimes it’s more difficult but that many blows to the face is not needed when someone is already on the ground 2 v 1. If it was 1 v 1 and the cop didn’t have backup near by I’d understand but with proper training that situation could have been put to rest with body mechanics not involving punches to the face like that. Police have a toolbelt of weapons, the toolbelt starts with your mouth and ends with your gun. So a police officer starts talking and that isn’t working, grab a different tool: yelling doesn’t work, grab a different tool: taser didn’t work, notice he’s on the ground now as an officer you can chose to disengage or reengage, grab a different tool: try talking again, different tool: yelling orders, different tool: both officers pounce on the man 300+ pounds on the man, this tool is working but needs a little more, grab a different tool: each cop grabs an arm and holds it to the floor with all of their might, this works: he can’t move his arms but can kick and try to move his hips up, new tool: keep hold of your arm and take out your handcuffs and cuff the man with one link each, new tool link the two seperate handcuffs together now focus on getting the situation under control. new tool take the man outside to the car. situation over no one’s injured. Holy Shit is it possible that punching a man was the only option?
You don’t think the man was in the wrong for terrorizing the store? I’m sure it is hard to see someone getting punched but you also have to take into consideration that they are there to protect the other innocent people standing around taking videos and shopping. They can’t just let him do whatever it is he is doing. Why didn’t he leave the store when asked? I heard he has had run in with the law, maybe they know him and know what he is capable of.
Regardless of his past run ins it was a 2 vs 1 fight. Both police officers had him under control. The one cop started punching him while ON THE GROUND under two police officers. If it was 1 vs 1 it’d make more sense but the cops were winning there was no need to esculate the way he did. As a police officer you aim to do things the quickest but yet safest way possible. Multiple punches to the face of a man on the ground is not anything I’ve seen tought in a police academy.
so by not leaving, he is now terrorizing customers. please, rethink this. Once the man was on the ground he did not need to be kicked and punched for any reason. Years ago, believe it or not, people did not have to jump because they were told to. We used to just say no, and guess what, cops did not taser and beat us half to death. We are losing our freedoms because people like you think we are wrong if we do not follow what we are told to do.
Ur right bud cops should enjoy their god complexes and really show pple how they can use whatever over the top force they want to injure and infringe on pples rights. His record that they knew nothing about before beating him..totally relevant. Enjoy life behind ur blue wall in ur fantasy land. Classy really classy
you sound so retarded. The lady was right there and saw the whole thing. It does not matter what the guy had done in the past. He was not resisting. Its plain to see and by the witness he was not resisting. If he is not then they have no right to act this way.
‘a record for assaulting a cop’ … mhm . i’ve also been accused of assaulting a cop, after the cop assaulted me . they’ll charge him for assaulting these cops … which is what this gang does after beating people : charge their victims with assault
fuck the police
all o’ y’all witnesses should’ve stopped these thugs from beating a man who was no threat
Bull Sh.., cops are out of control. I do not care what he did in the past (I am sure he was already punished and jailed for it). The police are brutes. I defended the cop in fergason but these cops need to go to jail, but they will be justified. If the man was out of control he only needs to be tased once, if at all. Once tased, no one is capable of moving, they have just been electrocuted. They could ha ve cuffed him without kicking him in the head. for all of the good cops, these cretins give the good cops a bad name.
i always say i need the whole story before making a judgment on cops because they have a hard job! Thanks Amy
WTF? And these maniacs with a badge could be suited up in military grade riot gear and assault weapons on a moments notice?
Didn’t that cop even have a gun on him at first? What cowards!
Burr-head stfu.
A liberal’s dream. You can take down the hated non-union Wal-Mart while crucifying a couple of policemen, with the resisting law-breaker looks like a valued dope-smoker or maybe a child-ogling creep, the left will defend.
Just think if the A-hole disturbing the peace, and making society more of a cesspool, would have been black? So close to a Trifecta that would send FITS to the top of the leftwing blog-stratosphere, Rachael-Madcow style. Better luck next time.
Take the corporate cock out of your mouth before you speak. It’s only courteous. You and Miss Lindsey can share it later.
The Ferguson Officer Darren Wilson defense fund is collecting money like wildfire. Read about it on SCPD. Coverage over here SUCKS, unless you’re a radical idiot leftwing liberal.
“GREENVILLE COPS BEAT MAN SENSELESS AT WALMART”
GREENVILLE COPS BEAT SENSELESS MAN AT WALMART
Fixed it for ya!
SENSELESS ARTICLE ABOUT MAN AT WALMART
SENSELESS GREENVILLE COPS BEAT MAN AT WALMART
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SENSELESS BLOGGER POSTED VIDEO LINK OF COPS DOING THERE JOB
Edit for BT: *their
There there now.
They’re their now.
*chuckles*
Walmart is the slopping place for you’re and your’s.
Cops like that are great. The keep us safe and provide entertainment. Better they beat the tazed and dazed guy than their wives. THen again, maybe they beat both each week.
Y’all WILL NOT BELIEVE who Felonious Punk has hired as his Communications Director. FITS readers know this name WELL..
.LMAO…check out SCPD to find out. Some of you PM me. PM me, and I’ll send you the link if you don’t have it.
the man identified himself as ’911?
Was Shawty on fire, on the dancefloor?
The terrorists missed a great opportunity to show us they had a sense of humor by hitting us on 7-11.
lmao!
It’d only be better if they got a $50k loan each to fund their “startup” from the Feds.
The reports I saw say the guy was obviously drunk, drugged or both. I guess this article forgot to mention this. And yes it matters.
It looked like the pink elephant trying to make her own video was hell-bent and determined to stay in front of the camera.
I don’t see brutality, the guy on the ground was not injured. I see that force was necessary but it was ineffective. None of those cops on scene could make the local high school wrestling team, much less do they look like the cops we’re used to seeing in the movies and on TV. The backlash on the Police lately is caused by society watching too much “Walker Texas Ranger” growing up. The average Police Officer is not a highly trained martial arts expert capable of fighting bigger, stronger men or disarming people with weapons. They are “regular Joe’s” that do the best they can with bad situations. I know Dudes capable of getting coked up, steroid-head Monsters in cuffs without throwing a punch or disarming blade wielding thugs without emptying a mag full of bullets into them. The problem is that those guys don’t want to be cops. Most bad-asses are not interested in a life of being poor, drug free, clean cut, and scrutinized for their every action. Free market principles apply, you get what you pay for.
Hey FITS:
Police Chief Gunned Down in South Texas
ELMENDORF, Texas (AP) — The police chief of a small Texas town was killed Saturday while attempting to arrest a man on a warrant, authorities said.
Elmendorf (TX) Police Chief Michael Pimentel was making a stop to serve an active misdemeanor warrant for graffiti, when the suspect fired, hitting the chief several times.
Wonder if the Hateful Liberal Bigots care about this man’s life? …or is the life of your criminal political idiots more valuable than those protecting us?
So? He knew the dangers of the job. I’m sorry the guy’s dead, but that’s what happens to police officers sometimes.
Yeah, Tell that to Michael Brown.
I’ll tell your wife the next time we hook up.
An eyewitness account had the suspect tasered 3 times before the video started. Tasers for the police are much stronger than civilian models. Looked like the cop was using an M-18 taser. You know, 50,000 Volts, 18 Watts and 133 MilliAmps of measured power is instantly discharged into the subject. The electrical discharge pulses in a revolutionary new method of advanced EMD power (Electro-Muscular Disruption) that no subject has ever been able to overcome…until now?
I’m sure everyone has either been given a shot by a sadistic nurse, or heard the story of the nurse that gets pleasure from forcing the needle painfully into your arm, and gives the needle some shearing force that bends it in place before pulling it out again. Her years of service prove it’s not lack of experience, but a spiteful penetration for schadenfreude.
There’s something about causing someone pain that is attractive to some people.
To be honest, I was not there. I speculate the suspect here was intoxicated or something. The suspect was non compliant to the officers commands. I get that. But two-three laser shots and two cops seemed sufficient to get cuffs on him. Sloppy, they had to resort to ground and pound. I get that too. So to be fair, get the new X26 CEW?
That being said, this how they are trained and how we are conditioned to accept their training. Reading the comments, I see we are divided and conquered without any shots fired. The tactics used are absolutely mongoloid. But then again, citizens have regressed to the level of a Silver Backed Gorilla. Best I can say is, whomever planned for our society to be where it is at this point must not be cognizant of their surroundings as much as they think. God by three touchdowns.
It’s the partisan virus. Once some dick learns what seems disgusting to liberals, he is honor bound to man up, loudly suck the snot into his mouth and hock a lugie at the pearl clutching blue haired ladies with their panties in a bunch… never mind he spent last night in lock-up because he fell against the tomato paste display at the 24-hour grocery after the bars let out, trying to find the margarita mix. When the cops finally got there, he was laying on the cans rolling under him as he struggled to get up, slurring out a string of obscenities longer than an optical cable, and occasionally throwing an offending can as if it was ganging up on him. Never mind that he was tased, and beaten and tased, and tased, and beaten… and finally dragged to the parking lot “sleeping it off” (unconscious from being beaten and tased).
By god, that’s the way his pappy did it!
Tasers fail to subdue suspects quite often. I’m guessing the latter part of your post was a quote from “Taser” propaganda. I’d rather take my chances with a good grade of OC (pepper spray) than a Taser on most days. Of course had they deployed OC, even in stream form, everyone in that store would have been coughing and gasping, with a few demanding an whaaambulance because they were certain they had just won the ghetto/trailer park lottery for the day.
tranquilizer darts.
Okay, this has been up long enough.. Now, I’ve got something very deeply disturbing to share with you all.
You came here for the macabre, a haunting narrative that will stick to your ribs.. and I’m just the prick that’s gonna give it to ya!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fMJrivt_e-g#t=27
Damn you, Euwe max!!!!! I had weird, shitty, dreams last night and this morning. Now, thanks to you, I am sure to have more of the same tonight.
scooooooooorrrrrre!
Not me, CiC – I’m going to bed with an erection…
A good lodge pole will keep the sheets from sticking to your stomach.
Consult your physician if it lasts for more than four hours.
A guy goes to his doctor for help with a little problem
called premature ejaculation. The doctor gives him a tube of cream which will help him. The next day the guy calls the doctor, “Dammit! I ejaculated while wiping it on!”
If only she was wearing a white shirt with no bra.
How scary is it that her, McCain, & Hillary all have a reason to “pal” around now?
I was arrested by South Carolina mauldin county police and the cop took me to jail with no shoes didn’t take my belongings and after sitting in the cop car this other officer said I was hitting my head against the window I was sitting there just waiting he then had me sit in the back of the car for 2 hours told me if be released in the morning I ended up being put in a unit in orange finally got a bond and walked from greenville to mauldin in bare feet because this punk ass 22 year old cop he asked if I was in the military I replied yes he asked my mos I said 19d he responds well I was an mp fuck the police they think they can do anything punk motherfuckers with a badge and a gun
Don’t break the law in bare feet and don’t use run-on sentences . . .didn’t your mother tell you these things?
Fuck you pig loving cocksucker
What’s that common but-harmless-to-others anxiety-attack type that relates to dread of going outdoors? Agrophobia? Anyway, dumb ill-trained cops who are too stupid but to cuff and arrest diabetics who are befuddled and with clearly acetone, not alcohol, on their breath from a diabetic attacks certainly are not going to recognize any other relatively common medical distress.
“Why, he was disrespecting mah authority! Not obeying Mah ORDERS!! Why I COULD’A shot him!!!”
If you have a relative or other loved one having an emotional or psychological or drug episode, even if he (or especially if he) is threatening to hurt himself, or others, don’t EVER EVER call the police. They will kill him at the drop of a hat. You read the news accounts again and again. The one that stands out in my memory: Dumb cops at opened front door, just arrived; 16-year old with a knife threatening to kill HIMSELF standing in house a reported 15 feet away; kid makes some move, though not notably toward cops, and they kill him from their perfectly safe distance. Another notch in the handle. More strutting rights. Street cred.
I’m not sure of all the particulars of the case you referenced, but 15 feet is well inside of the “21 Foot Rule” regarding justified shootings of someone brandishing a knife. People call the police because their crazy and/or (often) drugged and/or drunk family member is out of control and they cannot handle him. They then want the police crucified because they had to use the means they had at hand to handle him and unfortunately, it was fatal. There have been plenty of suicidal people who for whatever reason (suicide by cop, among others) they decided to go hostile on cops or bystanders rather than just offing themselves. The cops don’t get paid to be someone else’s pincushion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tueller_Drill
You make my point.
For a deranged loved one, do NOT call the cops. They are NOT there to help. Some will use ANY excuse to kill. Not, “I felt threatened and HAD to shoot,” but instead, “He was inside the radius and I was allowed to shoot.”
Call the cops on criminals. NEVER call them for disturbed or deranged loved ones or other innocents. There is a fair chance the cop is as deranged himself, just more quietly.
Bingo!
I might add, if the nature of the crime is not one where you need a report for the insurance company, you might as well forgo the call for a criminal matter as well…unless it’s a crime in progress type situation; and even then you’re better to handle it yourself. Shoot in scoot, then call an attorney. If it’s a truly dangerous situation you’ll be dead before they get there anyway.
Rarely is a theft ever solved, it’s just paper pushing for them…unless you’re talking something over $10k and even then it depends on who the crime was committed against and the nature of it.
When I was younger and didn’t know this truth, the many times I had called cops to the scene of a crime(usually car break ins, but a B&E once and a motorcycle theft) the interactions were always difficult and ended up being a waste of time. In fact, no print lifting or investigations…they tell you in advance when/how you can get a copy of the report because they know there’s gonna be no real investigation and that you need it for insurance.
From reading this article, it sounds like the cops may have had reason to believe this dumbass to be more of a threat than the video revealed. How often have we seen this dynamic in action. Rodney King “beating”, anyone?
http://www.wistv.com/story/26353764/deputies-tase-forcefully-subdue-intoxicated-man-inside-walmart
It would have been amusing to read the fitscrowd responses if there were no hint of the race of the beating victim.
“Gol’durn, am I for it or agin’ it?”
Fuck him. He refused orders.
Good little robot. Suck the authoritarian cock.
He likes it because it has shit on it.
I wish fits would get a good story to lambast some sorry sack of SC Highway Patrolman. I don’t mean make up something or overblow something, but just some true story the next time one beats up a middle-age black lady at the side of the road or the like. I don’t think our troopers are bad or certainly not any worse than city cops and probably better (well, “Big Dog” Melvin of Lee Co. was probably someone you did not want to meet on a back road at 2 AM) What is amusing to watch though is the apparently orchestrated avalanche of “troopers wives” who write in after any media story critical of a trooper, no matter how guilty of what. We just don’t know what worthy saints these boys in the big hats are!! The hats must cover that halos.
It used to be that the Highway Patrol hired mature sensible people. Now, they seem to be hiring smart ass kids.
Tomorrow I’m going to watch our favorite “Miss Mall Cop” video again. — “respect mah authorrati”
Walmart video show man trying to get into cash register and being chased through store.
So why was he not charged with attempted robbery? Also I did not see the victim assaulting anyone, and I did not see the officers attempting to handcuff him. I saw an officer first hit him on the side of his head, then pin him down while the officer beat him.
The offender was refusing to comply with the instructions to stop resisting. Resisting doesn’t have to entail an assault on the officers. Failing to be physically compliant with the officers’ attempts to place him in handcuffs is “resisting.” These cops have no way of knowing what is in this dude’s mind, or pockets. They have one objective at this point – complete control over the offender. If he isn’t allowing them to get and keep control over him (by getting him in handcuffs), he’s going to get tazed and/or punched in the noggin. I spent ten years defending excessive force cases. These guys are in zero trouble.
That is not what I saw. See it your way.
That is not what I saw. See it your way.
Hello officer. Get anything good at Wal-Mart?
Not a cop, but have tried approximately 30 cases involving allegations of excessive force. I know it when I see it – and this ain’t it.
That was no beating. I have seen some get beat a lot worse. To tell the truth, most of them needed every bit of it. Some just don’t know when to shut up and quit.
Oh really? Being repeatedly punched in the head isn’t a beating?
White gangbangers with guns and badges and government salaries
It’s 2014 for God’s Sake, when are these morons running around playing junior journalist with their cell phone going to realize if you rotate the phone 90° in either direction it shoots in landscape mode producing a much cleaner, ready for TV image. Amateur hour.
The ENTIRE incident should be on the store’s video. Instead of everyone being judge, jury and executioner, why not wait for all the facts to come out before passing judgement. Until then, the officers should be on admin duty or suspended with pay.
He was a worthless bum to begin with. Sick of coddling them.
Cowboys jump off a horse at full gallop and hog tie a running animal pretty darn quick. Just a thought, teach cops how to hog tie perps. :)
Wow, way to tell 9/10ths of the story! How about writing all the stuff this guy did BEFORE he was finally subdued? Trying to take a cash drawer, threatening employees inside the store, trying to take a deputy’s knife out of it’s sheath, acting crazy in general, and running back inside the store despite repeatedly being told to stop. And, he has done this exact same thing before, high as a kite with super human like strength. He is not a small man either, really tall and muscular. Geez, get some FACTS before you try and stir a pot that didn’t need stirring.
America was stole my people were enslaved beaten for hundreds of years its look like much has changed. But we cant run north anymore.
How To Profile Serial Killer Sting Operatives!
Sting operative serial killers enjoy framing and murdering people and tend to celebrate openly after they frame or murder off people and are easily caught celebrating the misfortunes/death of their victims!
Sting operative serial killers use sting tactics to target their victims and will use the pretense of conducting investigations on their target to justify surrounding their target at their place of residence such as taking over the surrounding apartments that surround their victims apartment in order to have/gain control over the area by shear numbers!
Sting operative serial killers use their power of influence and their police power to vilify their targets behind their targets backs by making false allegations about their target in order to isolate the target from any form of help or support from neighbors/coworkers!
Sting operative serial killers generally use doubles and photogenic photo’s to frame their target for crimes that the sting operative serial killers are guilty of and they tend to take several months to a couple years impersonating their target to build a false history of complaints on their target! The target usually never hears about the complaints and is unaware their are organized people impersonating him/her and are vilifying the target!
Sting operative serial killers use these tactics over and over and over again and being aware of these tactics makes it easier to identify them!
Sting operative serial killers are generally people in law enforcement and people that are either buddy’s or relatives or girlfriends of people in law enforcement!
Sting operative serial killers are funded and supported by local and state and federal law agency’s and are immune to prosecution due to authority’s refusal to arrest them and refusal to admit they recruit civilians into sting operations!
Authority’s use their reward system to help fund their civilian sting operatives which is why authority’s never reveal the names of people that get rewards from authority’s, if you could find out WHO gets those rewards you would be shocked to see how many of them are either buddy’s or relatives or girlfriends of people in law enforcement!
Sting operative serial killers not only target adults they also target children, sting operatives use children all the time to frame people and if children become targeted by sting operative serial killers they tend to end up getting poisoned by the sting operatives!
Sting operative serial killers use their power of influence at public schools to get kids they target kicked out of school and will order the school to not permit the child to go back to school until the child is placed on a prescription, the prescription tends to be something that impairs the child’s memory and will over time deform the child’s face so that the child, if not retarded, will appear to others to be retarded!
Sting operative serial killers use the public school system to help them vilify their targets and will order the schools to print flyers vilifying a neighbor the sting operatives are targeting, and it’s all done without courts and without due process, sting operatives have a name for these tactics, they call it pedofying!
Sting operative serial killers will take over several apartments surrounding their target, stage crimes near where their target lives using a operative as a double, take side shots and back shots of the double using photogenic photo’s, vilify the target and blame the target behind the targets back, order the school to print flyers giving the targets description along with the alleged crime that was totally staged/committed by sting operatives, and then they sit back and laugh while honest and good people are tricked into thinking the target is a bad guy and joins in on the vilifying of the target!
These crimes, after sting operatives have taken several months to implement, usually cause the death of the target after the target is vilified!
Police and their sting operatives hide the fact that it is an assassination by faking a shootout with the target, usually police select one of their rookie cops to be the one that fakes being wounded in the shoot out, and police usually have one of their buddy doctors at the hospital to back up the lie that the cop was shot, they never show the cops wound on video because THEY ARE NOT SHOT! They just fake it so they can frame the man they targeted as a armed killer and by doing so they fake justifying shooting their target!
Sting operatives are serial killers, and they tend to enjoy framing and murdering people and are easily caught celebrating what they do to their victims, news media always looks the other way when sting operatives celebrate their crimes openly and publicly!
My wife Joan Wagar was having an affair with a Portland cop named Eric Carlson and he was acting as a double to set me up as a pedophile!
When I found out my wife Joan Wagar was hooking our daughters up with a cop that was acting as a double I tried to warn people about it, and that’s when I was severely poisoned by Joan Wagar!
All of my wife’s coworkers at East Port Walmart were calling officer Eric Carlson by the nickname Doubleclick because they knew he was acting as a double, and after my wife Joan Wagar poisoned me everyone at East Port Walmart started calling my wife by the nickname Mrs Dash!
Police used their power of influence to cover up the poisonings at the hospital and I was repeatedly denied emergency services because of police influence and interference at the hospital!
Shawna Wagar admits in writing to making false pedophile accusations about me and this occurred when my mother and father were poisoned and murdered by local police and by my wife Joan Wagar!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/shawnaconfession2.jpg
April 2005 officer Eric Carlson and Joan Wagar adopted and actively used the nicknames Doubleclick and Mrs Dash in love letters and in their cellphones and it was East Port Walmart employees that first coined their nicknames!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/toolwiz20132-5-20-44-331.jpg
December 2005 I confronted my wife Joan Wagar with a audio recorder over that love letter Doubleclick the body double wrote my wife and she admits it’s her love letter but refuses to admit to her nickname because she is trying to hide the fact she is a poisoner and that it is open knowledge at East Port Walmart, she still also is trying to hide the fact Eric Carlson is a cop and a look-a-like to me!
http://youtu.be/95Ty0wT2w-o
2006 because of police influence Joan Wagar aced a lie detector test I payed for!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/scan0011.jpg
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/scan0012.jpg
2006 Two months later Joan Wagar A,K,A, Mrs Dash admits in her diary she lied on that lie detector test and admits to her affair with officer Eric Carlson and admits to using pills and antifreeze in her diary and admits to mixing drinks with poisons and admits she is a liar and a psycho and admits to poisoning a plasma donor and admits I was ill at the time and admits I cannot get help from police!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/joan-wagar-admits-she-is-poisoner-hospital-refuses-to-help-victimsmallpdf-com.pdf
Near the end of Joan Wagar’s diary she admits she is a plasma donor intending to DONATE PLASMA!
https://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/scan0027.jpg
A day or two later she outright admits she is a
poisoner at the end of her diary!
https://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/scan0029.jpg
2006 A week later Joan Wagar writes her infamous denial letter denying her ongoing affair with officer Eric Carlson and denying she is a poisoner, everything in her denial letter is a lie and even her daughters were sleeping around with officer Eric Carlson and his partners, one of her daughters got pregnant at the time of Joan Wagar writing this by Eric Carlson’s partner David!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/joan-wagars-denial-letter-she-wrote-almost-everything-in-letter-is-a-lie1.jpg
2006 By the time of Joan Wagar writing this written confession that she uses antifreeze as poison I was so debilitated at this time I was bedridden, Joan Wagar tossed this at me like it was a Frisbee because she wanted to see if I could get out of bed to try and find help or not, I could not!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/joan-wagar-brags-she-uses-antifreeze-as-poison1.jpg
2007 the hospital admits I had abominable pain and internal bleeding but fakes not knowing what’s wrong and once again refuses to take a toxicology test and ignores my complaints and covers up Joan Wagar’s written confessions she is a poisoner!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/ohsu-hospital-admits-terry-wagar-has-abdominable-pain-and-internal-bleeding1.jpg
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/joanohsusgtwalkerericloveletterfileminimizer6fileminimizer.jpg
2007 Officer Eric Carlson brags to Clackamas Walmart employees he’s a twin and an alter ego and Walmart employee makes it known it is open knowledge at Clackamas Walmart he is a look-a-like to me and is using my wife Joan Wagar’s locker where my audio recorder was!
http://youtu.be/xkesZhUJOOs
2008 Portland police and OHSU hospital admitting to covering up my calls for help and threatening me telling me I am not welcome to help at a hospital!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/ohsu-hospital-and-portland-police-admit-to-covering-up-my-calls-for-help-and-deny-me-any-help-forever1.png
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/ohsu-and-police-admit-i-am-not-welcome-at-my-hospital-and-cover-up-my-calls-for-help1.png
2008 Multnomah county sheriff’s covering up my calls for help and emails for help and are taunting me via their personal Blackberry emails!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/multnomah-county-sheriffs.jpg
2009 Police made sure I could not get help from any other hospital as well and no one will take a toxicology test! Officer Eric Carlson is one of the first responders to respond to my 911 call and he was NOT there to help!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/medicalrecord-doctor-refuses-to-take-toxicology-test-11.jpg
2009 officer Eric Carlson and his bros in the Portland police and Joan Wagar made a audio death threat and broke into my home and put it on the computer, their using sound boards to say goodbye in multiple ways!
The same day I found their audio death threat the police parked a black car with the Oregon license plate “SAYLVU” on it in front of my apartment!
http://youtu.be/leRUWYlR3Cc
2009 Another Portland police officer caught on video acting as a double of me outside my apartment and he is with a female that is acting as a double of my daughter Megan Wagar, here is a picture of Megan Wagar with officer Eric Carlson’s partner David!
https://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/0fae1d1f-8ddd-11dc-82d1-35880418b3e1.jpg
And here is video of a police officer acting as a double of me and he is with a female acting as a double to my daughter Megan Wagar!
http://youtu.be/Yb4wgK6-pTc
07-10-2009 Officer Eric Carlson caught on video paying children TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS to frame me as a pedophile outside my apartment and children admitted I will be killed and admitted my family members were involved!
http://youtu.be/-eUrVfK_BjU
2009 Two weeks later Officer Eric Carlson and his partners and my wife Joan Wagar are caught outside my apartment building trespassing and waiting in ambush to shoot me, they are armed with guns, recording devices, and flashlights,their car with the license plate “SAYLVU” is in the parking lot!
http://youtu.be/p8UF4tiXAQ0
06-01-2014 Female sting operatives renting apartment below mine are deliberately placing small children in my path and then falsely labeling me as a pedophile!
They continue to frame me as a pedo with intent of opening fire on me!
http://youtu.be/-6AShiXx4Kg
My wife Joan Wagar was having an affair with a Portland cop named Eric Carlson and he was acting as a double to set me up as a pedophile!
When I found out my wife Joan Wagar was hooking our daughters up with a cop that was acting as a double I tried to warn people about it, and that’s when I was severely poisoned by Joan Wagar!
All of my wife’s coworkers at East Port Walmart were calling officer Eric Carlson by the nickname Doubleclick because they knew he was acting as a double, and after my wife Joan Wagar poisoned me everyone at East Port Walmart started calling my wife by the nickname Mrs Dash!
Police used their power of influence to cover up the poisonings at the hospital and I was repeatedly denied emergency services because of police influence and interference at the hospital!
Shawna Wagar admits in writing to making false pedophile accusations about me and this occurred when my mother and father were poisoned and murdered by local police and by my wife Joan Wagar!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/shawnaconfession2.jpg
April 2005 officer Eric Carlson and Joan Wagar adopted and actively used the nicknames Doubleclick and Mrs Dash in love letters and in their cellphones and it was East Port Walmart employees that first coined their nicknames!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/toolwiz20132-5-20-44-331.jpg
December 2005 I confronted my wife Joan Wagar with a audio recorder over that love letter Doubleclick the body double wrote my wife and she admits it’s her love letter but refuses to admit to her nickname because she is trying to hide the fact she is a poisoner and that it is open knowledge at East Port Walmart, she still also is trying to hide the fact Eric Carlson is a cop and a look-a-like to me!
http://youtu.be/95Ty0wT2w-o
2006 because of police influence Joan Wagar aced a lie detector test I payed for!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/scan0011.jpg
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/03/scan0012.jpg
2006 Two months later Joan Wagar A,K,A, Mrs Dash admits in her diary she lied on that lie detector test and admits to her affair with officer Eric Carlson and admits to using pills and antifreeze in her diary and admits to mixing drinks with poisons and admits she is a liar and a psycho and admits to poisoning a plasma donor and admits I was ill at the time and admits I cannot get help from police!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/joan-wagar-admits-she-is-poisoner-hospital-refuses-to-help-victimsmallpdf-com.pdf
Near the end of Joan Wagar’s diary she admits she is a plasma donor intending to DONATE PLASMA!
https://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/scan0027.jpg
A day or two later she outright admits she is a
poisoner at the end of her diary!
https://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/scan0029.jpg
2006 A week later Joan Wagar writes her infamous denial letter denying her ongoing affair with officer Eric Carlson and denying she is a poisoner, everything in her denial letter is a lie and even her daughters were sleeping around with officer Eric Carlson and his partners, one of her daughters got pregnant at the time of Joan Wagar writing this by Eric Carlson’s partner David!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/joan-wagars-denial-letter-she-wrote-almost-everything-in-letter-is-a-lie1.jpg
2006 By the time of Joan Wagar writing this written confession that she uses antifreeze as poison I was so debilitated at this time I was bedridden, Joan Wagar tossed this at me like it was a Frisbee because she wanted to see if I could get out of bed to try and find help or not, I could not!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/joan-wagar-brags-she-uses-antifreeze-as-poison1.jpg
2007 the hospital admits I had abominable pain and internal bleeding but fakes not knowing what’s wrong and once again refuses to take a toxicology test and ignores my complaints and covers up Joan Wagar’s written confessions she is a poisoner!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/ohsu-hospital-admits-terry-wagar-has-abdominable-pain-and-internal-bleeding1.jpg
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2007 Officer Eric Carlson brags to Clackamas Walmart employees he’s a twin and an alter ego and Walmart employee makes it known it is open knowledge at Clackamas Walmart he is a look-a-like to me and is using my wife Joan Wagar’s locker where my audio recorder was!
http://youtu.be/xkesZhUJOOs
2008 Portland police and OHSU hospital admitting to covering up my calls for help and threatening me telling me I am not welcome to help at a hospital!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/ohsu-hospital-and-portland-police-admit-to-covering-up-my-calls-for-help-and-deny-me-any-help-forever1.png
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2008 Multnomah county sheriff’s covering up my calls for help and emails for help and are taunting me via their personal Blackberry emails!
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2009 Police made sure I could not get help from any other hospital as well and no one will take a toxicology test! Officer Eric Carlson is one of the first responders to respond to my 911 call and he was NOT there to help!
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2009 officer Eric Carlson and his bros in the Portland police and Joan Wagar made a audio death threat and broke into my home and put it on the computer, their using sound boards to say goodbye in multiple ways!
The same day I found their audio death threat the police parked a black car with the Oregon license plate “SAYLVU” on it in front of my apartment!
http://youtu.be/leRUWYlR3Cc
2009 Another Portland police officer caught on video acting as a double of me outside my apartment and he is with a female that is acting as a double of my daughter Megan Wagar, here is a picture of Megan Wagar with officer Eric Carlson’s partner David!
https://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/04/0fae1d1f-8ddd-11dc-82d1-35880418b3e1.jpg
And here is video of a police officer acting as a double of me and he is with a female acting as a double to my daughter Megan Wagar!
http://youtu.be/Yb4wgK6-pTc
07-10-2009 Officer Eric Carlson caught on video paying children TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS to frame me as a pedophile outside my apartment and children admitted I will be killed and admitted my family members were involved!
http://youtu.be/-eUrVfK_BjU
2009 Two weeks later Officer Eric Carlson and his partners and my wife Joan Wagar are caught outside my apartment building trespassing and waiting in ambush to shoot me, they are armed with guns, recording devices, and flashlights,their car with the license plate “SAYLVU” is in the parking lot!
http://youtu.be/p8UF4tiXAQ0
06-01-2014 Female sting operatives renting apartment below mine are deliberately placing small children in my path and then falsely labeling me as a pedophile!
They continue to frame me as a pedo with intent of opening fire on me!
http://youtu.be/-6AShiXx4Kg
Pedophile rapist cops that committed a early morning break in and rape and murder of a child/teen in 2007 are gang-stalking and harassing and terrorizing me for being a witness and for catching them in the act of their crimes with a audio recorder and their currently using their police powers to rent apartments surrounding mine to further frame and terrorize me while they poison my tap water!
The apartment manager is helping them and is renting the apartment next door to the apartment the cops/sting operatives are using!
More evidence along with audio explanations by me!
http://youtu.be/2ElWca90rfo
Shawna Wagar stabbing/cutting me while I was asleep in the living room!
http://youtu.be/fAj5xIVQNrs
Portland police sting operatives renting apartments surrounding mine and they are caught on video wearing plan cloths and wearing a Portland police jacket!
http://youtu.be/aG7D4PTu2ns
Portland cop repeatedly hangs around my apartment and after I catch these cops stalking me on video they try hiding their red pickup truck behind some trees and have their vehicle in the visitor’s parking area proving they do not live here!
http://youtu.be/z-MYl69uFfw
I am disabled from being poisoned by my wife while she was having sexual affairs with these officer’s and I am surrounded by gyuilty people that are sting operatives that are staging/committing crimes around my area and they are using officer’s as PHOTO DOUBLES to impersonate me and one of my daughters and I caught them on video using DOUBLES in front of my apartment!
http://youtu.be/Yb4wgK6-pTc
These cops and their civilian sting operative girlfriends were putting death threats in my home along with planting paraphernalia in my home!
http://youtu.be/leRUWYlR3Cc
My wife Joan Wagar brags in writing to her affair with a Portland cop and brags I cannot get help from police and flaunts the fact she use’s antifreeze and pills as poison and admits she wants life insurance money’s and at the time Joan Wagar wrote this her daughter Megan Wagar was pregnant by Joan Wagar’s lovers partner David!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/joan-wagar-admits-she-is-poisoner-hospital-refuses-to-help-victimsmallpdf-com.pdf
Joan Wagar admits in writing she is a poisoner poisoning plasma donors!
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Sgt Walker of the Portland police admits in writing to covering up Joan Wagar’s poisoned victims 911 calls and threatens victim for reporting Joan Wagar is a poisoner!
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Officer Eric Carlson of the Portland police admits in writing to his affair with my wife Joan Wagar and is openly referring to Joan Wagar as Mrs Dash in love letters!
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Multnomah county sheriff’s taunt victims of Joan Wagar via emails and also cover up victims complaints!
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Doctors at Multiple hospitals admit in writing to covering up Joan Wagar’s poisoned victims complaints and refuse to take toxicology tests and refuse to help victims due to Joan Wagar’s sexual affairs she was having with cops and in effect help police cover up victims 911 calls!
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It was open knowledge at East Port Walmart and Clackamas Walmart Joan Wagar was having an affair with Portland cop officer Eric Carlson and it was open knowledge officer Eric Carlson was a close look-a-like to Joan Wagar’s husband and it was openly talked about at those stores!
http://youtu.be/xkesZhUJOOs
Now you know what officer Eric Carlson and Joan Wagar’s nicknames Doubleclick and Mrs Dash stood for that Walmart employees coined and both officer Eric Carlson and Joan Wagar adopted!
A lot of people died in connection to Joan Wagar’s affairs with cops and her repeated use of poisons, Don Wagar, Valerie Quigley, Virgil Minor, Don Minor, Donna Minor, a child/teenager with the last name Hunter, another female named Jessica!
Mrs Dash has a lot of cops and county sheriff’s covering her ass! In more ways than one!
Mrs Dash A,K,A, Joan Wagar brags in her diary to poisoning off plasma donors while flaunting her affair with a Portland cop and she admits in her diary her victims Cannot get help from police!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/joan-wagar-admits-she-is-poisoner-hospital-refuses-to-help-victimsmallpdf-com.pdf
Portland cops officer’s Eric Carlson and John Ray committed a early morning break in and raped,photographed, and murdered a female child/teenager and they planted evidence in innocent mans home and poisoned the innocent mans coffee pot and then they drove to Clackamas Walmart and bragged to their girlfriends/whores that worked there about it all and spent the remainder of the day in the back of that store recruiting Walmart employees to lie for them while their girlfriends printed flyers giving an innocent man the blame for the cops crimes! Officer Eric Carlson had celebration sex with his girlfriends after she got done printing the flyers and they succeeded in recruiting the entire clothing department and shoes department to lie for them!
Officer Eric Carlson gave Joan Wagar permission to be a serial killer and permission to poison off relatives for life insurance money’s!
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Joan Wagar tries to hide the fact that officer Eric Carlson is a cop and lies about being a poisoner!
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Joan Wagar admits to her motive of being a poisoner and admits in her diary to poisoning plasma donors!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2013/11/joan-wagar-admits-she-is-poisoner-hospital-refuses-to-help-victimsmallpdf-com.pdf
Officer Eric Carlson of the Portland police department is calling Joan Wagar by the nickname Mrs. Dash in love letters!
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Portland police and local hospitals cover up the poisonings by denying victims toxicology tests and by covering up Joan Wagar’s written confessions she is a poisoner and by covering up victims 911 calls and fakes and pretends to not know what is wrong with poisoned victim!
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Sgt Walker of the Portland police outright admits in writing to covering up poisoned victims 911 calls and is outright threatening the poisoned victim for reporting Joan Wagar is a poisoner and reporting her motive being an affair with a Portland cop!
http://wifepoisonedme.files.wordpress.com/2014/01/ohsu-hospital-and-portland-police-admit-to-covering-up-my-calls-for-help-and-deny-me-any-help-forever1.png
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Multnomah county sheriff’s taunt the poisoned victim via email while the Portland police brag on audio deaths threats and threaten the victim in writing!
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Portland police officer Eric Carlson and his partners and Joan Wagar made a audio death threat bragging to their debilitated poisoned victim in an attempt to blackmail the victim!
http://youtu.be/leRUWYlR3Cc
Portland police officer’s Eric Carlson and his partners paid several of their girlfriends with children TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS to make their poisoned debilitated victim look like a “bad guy” and are directing the children’s words and actions outside the victims home, and the victim is catching them in the act on video and audio admitting their being paid to make him look like a bad guy and their admitting their going to kill the victim!
http://youtu.be/-eUrVfK_BjU
Portland police caught on video using TWO BODY DOUBLES, one to impersonate their poisoned victim Terry Wagar, and the other to impersonate Terry Wagar’s daughter Megan Wagar!
Neither of these people are Terry Wagar or Megan wagar, but their both look-a-likes and were deliberately hanging out in front of Terry Wagar’s apartment and the two were kissing!
Terry Wagar is the one bolting out his door with a camcorder to catch the DOUBLES on video before they left!
http://youtu.be/Yb4wgK6-pTc
The Portland police that were paying children to vilify their poisoned victim and paid BODY DOUBLES to impersonate their poisoned victim are caught on video waiting in ambush to murder their poisoned victim outside the victims apartment!
Officer Eric Carlson and his partners in the police department as well as his girlfriend Joan Wagar are caught by the poisoned victim Terry Wagar on video waiting outside Terry Wagar’s apartment to shoot Terry Wagar!
Officer Eric Carlson and Joan Wagar were both hiding by Terry Wagar’s front door and they were armed with guns and recording devices and flashlights, and Terry Wagar is catching their ambush and attempted murder on video!
http://youtu.be/p8UF4tiXAQ0
I already proved Joan Wagar was having an affair with officer Eric Carlson of the Portland police and proved she is a poisoner, and I proved officer Eric Carlson was openly referring to Joan Wagar in love letters by the nickname Mrs. Dash!
Well I also proved via officer Eric Carlson’s nickname he admits to in writing, Doubleclick, and I proved on video the Portland police was framing me using DOUBLES!
Their crimes were open knowledge at East Port Walmart in 2005 and it was Walmart employees there that coined their nicknames, and Joan Wagar and officer Eric Carlson obviously adopted and were using the nicknames!
Several people in the family died during Joan Wagar’s repeated use of poisons, and Joan Wagar was pressuring people she was poisoning to donate plasma!
On March 26th 2007 officer’s Eric Carlson and officer John Ray along with several other female officer’s and their girlfriends committed a early morning break in and raped, photographed, and killed a female child!
These several officer’s/operatives went straight to Clackamas Walmart where they bragged they were framing Joan Wagar’s husband as a pedophile and they needed people there to lie for them and they spent the next three hours bragging about how they use DOUBLES and PHOTOGENIC PHOTO’S and bragged they poisoned Joan Wagar’s husbands coffee pot and they used Walmart printers to print flyers giving Joan Wagar’s husband the blame for their crimes and they were having celebration sex with female Walmart employees!
Officer Eric Carlson and Joan Wagar were discussing the female child they murdered while having sex, and one or two Walmart employees walked in on them in the back of the store having sex and the Walmart employees apologized to them and waited for Joan Wagar and officer Eric Carlson to finish their sex by waiting in the break room!
That’s how much power and influence cops have with EVERYONE working at Clackamas Walmart!