Contain ISIS? Good Luck With That …

THE BATTLE TO COME …  America’s latest invasion of Iraq scored its first big success this week, as Kurdish soldiers fighting against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) retook a dam in Mosul – thanks to U.S. air support. The “good news” was touted by none other than…


America’s latest invasion of Iraq scored its first big success this week, as Kurdish soldiers fighting against the Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS) retook a dam in Mosul – thanks to U.S. air support.

The “good news” was touted by none other than U.S. president Barack Obama, who ironically campaigned on getting America out  of the “dumb war” in Iraq … you know, before he decided to put America back at war in Iraq (with no congressional authorization).

Anyway …

“This operation demonstrates that Iraqi and Kurdish forces are capable of working together and taking the fight to (ISIS),” Obama said. “If they continue to do so, they will have the strong support of the United States of America.”


Pay no attention to that $17.6 trillion debt, right?  The federal government is going to keep bombing these people with your money whether you like it or not … for as long as it takes to … what?  

That’s the question, isn’t it? The argument of the rabid warmongers is that America must attack ISIS because ISIS is intent on attacking America.  Of course this ignores the fact America was supporting ISIS in Syria, and that America’s intervention in Iraq is only escalating the conflict – strengthening the organization’s recruitment efforts, radicalizing it further and setting our country up for retaliatory strikes (as if spending the last decade in Iraq trying to kill these people wasn’t sufficient to piss them off).

ISIS is no joke … which is why America shouldn’t be arming it or poking at it.

“The threat matrix is so wide and it’s so deep, we just didn’t have that before 9/11,” U.S. Rep. Mike Rogers said recently of the group. “A terrorist organization that holds land the size of Indiana, has tanks, helicopters, … as much as $1 billion in both precious metals (and) currency. And, by the way, they’re selling oil on the black market to the tune of about $1 million a day according to some.  That means you’ve got a severely dangerous organization.”

And where’d they get those tanks and helicopters?

Oh right … from US.

“You can’t contain these guys,” former U.S. Ambassador to Iraq James Jeffrey told CBS News this week.  “You try to contain them, and you’re going to have hundreds of thousands of young men from across the Middle East either joining them or causing unrest in their own countries.”

Jeffrey added that Obama was eventually going to have to break his promise not to send ground troops back into Iraq because, according to him, “nobody has the training or equipment to accomplish what U.S. special operations forces can accomplish.”

Which again … is what? 

If ISIS wants Iraq, we should let them have it.  And if they want Syria, well … last time we checked America was doing everything within its power to topple the regime of Bashar al-Assad, which is exactly what ISIS wants to see happen.

Bottom line?  Further American intervention in Iraq – or in the Middle East in general – unnecessarily exposes our citizens to the risk of terrorist attack.  Don’t get us wrong, America’s military should be armed to the teeth and ready to take decisive action to eliminate any credible threat to the national security.

But that’s not what we’re doing … we’re trying to police the world and build nations in our image.  With money that doesn’t exist.  In places where we are not welcome.

Is anybody shocked the plan isn’t working?

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Butwarisgoodforbusiness August 19, 2014 at 9:44 am

Cue the warmongers.

Lindsey Graham, what city in America is at risk of imminent attack if we don’t go all out against the rest of the world?

Tell us Lindsey. What does you puppetmaster war machine donor base suggest?

Jackie Chiles August 19, 2014 at 1:16 pm

(guy who will be crying his eyes out when gas shoots to $15 a gallon when ISIS invades Saudi Arabia)

Irrational speculation FTW! August 20, 2014 at 12:29 am

Fear is always a good tactic.

euwe max August 20, 2014 at 8:25 am

I’m afraid you have something there.

Nölff August 19, 2014 at 9:45 am

There’s also Isis, the metal band, I used to listen to back in high school. They play some mean riffs. They’ve been around longer than Isis the terrorists.

GrandTango August 19, 2014 at 9:50 am

Yeah, when Obama pulled a RonPaul…all bets were off for stamping out the hideously Evil..

Brutal murderers just LOVE Dumb@$$ Liberal-Tarians, and Democrat politicians. RonPaul or Obama could likely get 95% of the vote in an ISIS election.

Sandi Morals August 19, 2014 at 10:28 am

LMAO!!!!! Rand would only get 80%. :-)

GrandTango August 19, 2014 at 10:35 am

Good point Sandi: I’m afraid Rand is ruining his career, w/ that ignorant “bury-your-head-and-molest-me -from -behind” policy.

Even if Rand figures it out, and tried to denounce isolationism, people will not trust him. And ISIS sure made RonPaul, Sanford, FITS and Obama look like the blind fools they are.

Sandi Morals August 19, 2014 at 10:38 am

Rand has been busy blaming the police in Ferguson. He ain’t gonna figure it out.

GrandTango August 19, 2014 at 10:57 am

Have not heard that, but I thought the guy was smarter than that. The whole race Bull-$#!t is backfiring on the Democrats. Even Obama is backtracking, talking about how he supports the peaceful protests…knowing D*#n well he was All-In with the idiots until all the facts back the police, and not the liars and Obama-voting thugs.

Sandi Morals August 19, 2014 at 11:36 am

Yep.50 businesses have been damaged in the nine days of Democrat Party occupation of Ferguson. Some have closed and many are open for limited hours. Really sad.

GrandTango August 19, 2014 at 11:38 am

Now that’s Dope and Change…

RogueElephant August 19, 2014 at 10:07 am

The old saying : “when the cat is away the mice will play” comes to mind here. When Obummer withdrew all our military from Iraq, not only was all the men and materials wasted but when we are forced by the enemies of freedom to go back it will be even worse. Stupid liberals. The same thing will eventually happen in Afghanistan unless there are some changes in Washington. The liberaltarians are just as bad, They want to have a hands off policy till TSHTF then look around in amazement and ask “What happened?” You got caught with your drawers down, that’s what. Like 911.

EJB August 19, 2014 at 10:17 am

They won’t ask what happened, they’ll find someone to blame and have a cover story ready and waiting.

Soft Sigh from Hell August 19, 2014 at 7:07 pm

Bush’s invasion of Iraq is working out just so wonderfully isn’t it?

But McCain did say it may take 100 years.

CNSYD August 19, 2014 at 10:07 am

Sic Willie sounds just like Chamberlain. They only want Iraq and Syria, right? It is just lebensraum, right? Let them have it and they will be satisfied, right?

RogueElephant August 19, 2014 at 10:09 am

Liberals/liberaltarians never learn.

Sandi Morals August 19, 2014 at 10:22 am

FITS wants to give Syria and Iraq to ISIS. Obama gave Libya to ISIS and tried to give Egypt to the muslim brotherhood.Obama, Ron and Rand Paul wanted to give Israel to Hamas.
See the pattern? You are correct, again.

EJB August 19, 2014 at 10:15 am

Ahhh, it’s America’s fault, they are only mean to people because America made them mean, they would gladly prefer to just lay in the shade and watch the clouds go by if only we wouldn’t be mean to them and force them to be meanies.

If we leave them alone and let them get it out of their system in Iraq, they’ll stop, they won’t go anywhere else. They’ll be as strong as they want to be and they’ll leave everyone else alone. They’ll just lay in the shade until the next time some imperialistic prick bothers them.

As I recall these heartless pricks came into Iraq from Syria so I don’t see them stopping at Iraq’s border, they blame America like some blacks blame whites for all their problems. These dorks would be slaughtering people regardless of what America did. Not saying America is clean in all this but blaming America only buys those pathetic pieces of shit more time to organize and plan future endeavors.

War is good. Invest your son. August 19, 2014 at 10:20 am

Thank you, George W, Dick Cheney, and Paul Wolfowitz. Mission Accomplished, right?

Sandi Morals August 19, 2014 at 10:26 am

Mission Accomplished, right?muslim Obama has indeed accomplished his mission of installing the radical terrorists in the middle east. He tried to help Hamas destroy Israel but muslim Obama scared the shit out of Egypt and Saudi Arabia and cut that off.

Dan August 19, 2014 at 1:46 pm

George & co removed dictators and began stabilizing the region. Obama pulled American support out, and ISIS arose in the power vacuum. It was not Bush who made a grave error here, as his decisions did not directly cause this. Obama’s decisions DID directly cause this.

Bush could not be expected to anticipate Obama’s future blunder.
Obama should have known what creating such a power vacuum would lead to.

I am not a Bush fan by any means, but at least blame the right moron.

H. Sawyer August 20, 2014 at 5:15 am

The battles of Brooklyn and Ft. Lee were disastrous defeats for America in 1776, but Washington made up for those with victory at Trenton that Christmas, and eventually, in 1783, really won that war. To blame Obama for chaos in winding down a war initiated and lost by George W. Bush is as George W(ashington) would put it, “the height of folly.”

Alcoholics Anonymous’ definition of insanity applies here — doing the same thing repeatedly, unsuccessfully, hoping for a different outcome.

Mike at the Beach August 19, 2014 at 10:23 am

Just plain silly. I’m not sure who’s advising who on the foreign policy front here at FITS- is TR briefing Will or or vice versa. Bizarro world.

The Colonel August 19, 2014 at 10:39 am

Containing ISIL is completely within the realm of military possibility – if the American people are willing to accept the cost.
We have the capability to utterly destroy every man, woman and child associated with this group – the problem is the collateral costs associated with that destruction. Using B-1B and B-52H with cluster and aerial denial munitions we can readily halt their movement and then using conventional dumb bombs, simply make them cease to exist along with who/whatever gets trapped along side them. Had we done something along these lines in Afghanistan (and Iraq), along with targeted special ops strikes we’d have saved a trillion dollars.

EJB August 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm

OK, I’m in.

Soft Sigh from Hell August 19, 2014 at 7:02 pm

Pure and simple lunacy.
Then watch more of our big crowded buildings disappear, but this time with half the world cheering, and the other half saying with little sympathy this time, “Well who’s really surprised?”
You see it again and again, Americans howlingly frustrated that they possess unmatched strategic force and it counts for little in the groundfights that matter.

The Colonel August 19, 2014 at 7:44 pm

Yet more of that collateral damage I referred to…

Basically, you have three options:
1. Kill them all and let God sort it out, but you have to kill them ALL.
2. Find a surrogate to fight them for you.
3. Hurt them badly enough and often enough to keep them scared to screw with you.

Radical Islam is a disease with no cure, only death solves the illness.

Same ol' Same ol' August 20, 2014 at 3:42 pm

Unfortunately, this is true. It’s like reasoning with a drunk. Ain’t gonna happen.

Too soon? August 20, 2014 at 12:26 am

Hey now, let’s not lose our heads over the matter.

The Colonel August 20, 2014 at 8:27 am

Yes, too soon…

Abe August 20, 2014 at 4:57 am

Fecal material getting into your brain, old man? W. got us into both wars and declared victory on an aircraft carrier. W. fed Colin Powell intentionally misleading “intelligence” from Germany that WMDs existed in Iraq, prompting Powell to repeat this at the United Nations, legitimizing the Iraq war. And the Afghan war was completely, totally unnecessary.

The Colonel August 20, 2014 at 6:49 am

I’m not suggesting that we should do it, just that we can do it if we’re prepared to pay the price – we could have accomplished our real objectives far cheaper than we did if we were willing to accept collateral damage on the scale of Dresden in WWII. Fighting wars with one arm tied behind our back and the other in a pocket is dumb, expensive and ultimately a recipe for disaster.

Bible Thumper August 19, 2014 at 12:17 pm

Let’s see how fits policy has worked for others who adopted it.
How about the Free Syrian Army? Surrounded in Aleppo.
The al-Sheitaat tribe in Syria? 700 hundred massacred?
The Arab Christians?
The Yazidis?
The Kurds?
The Shiites?
All of these groups said “It is not our business” until they were attacked.
All of of them said “They are not bothering us. Why should we provoke them.”
Do we want to wait until ISIS is stronger and possible allies are destroyed or do we want save American lives and resources and act now?

Soft Sigh from Hell August 19, 2014 at 7:05 pm

“or do we want save American lives and resources and act now?”

As geopolitical Britain “defended London” by invading Afghanistan in the mid-1800s, only to lose in disgrace.

Bible Thumper August 19, 2014 at 10:35 pm

There are still a few Londoners who remember Chamberlain’s Munich Agreement and the Blitz that followed.

Hippocritter August 20, 2014 at 12:27 am

Every time you turn the other cheek another Chamberlain pops up, eh BT?

euwe max August 19, 2014 at 1:05 pm

Plan? We don’t need no steenking PLAN!

Bible Thumper August 19, 2014 at 1:51 pm

Obama’s Five Point Plan:
1. Let the situation escalate out of control.
2. Wait until media coverage pulls down Obama’s approval.
3. Respond as minimally as possible.
4. Deny mission creep while steadily raising American involvement.
5. After dubious success, (80 Yazidis killed) declare victory.

euwe max August 19, 2014 at 5:35 pm

I blame bush.

Bible Thumper August 19, 2014 at 5:37 pm

Yeah, but where does that get us.

euwe max August 19, 2014 at 5:56 pm

The same place that shooting an unarmed kid in a fit of rage (or piss-your-pants fear) gets us…..


SCRed August 19, 2014 at 9:11 pm

ISIS beheaded an American tonight. Go a’head’ and celebrate. You had a victory tonight you POS.

euwe max August 19, 2014 at 9:44 pm

What did you do about it, GrOPer?

Jackie Chiles August 19, 2014 at 1:13 pm

Should’ve just supported Assad from the beginning.

Tunes'n'News August 19, 2014 at 2:34 pm

If Obama bin Golfin wants to reengage with Russia and China, agree on a no holds barred, ruthless WW3 alliance to exterminate the Islamic cockroaches wherever they are found. ISIS, Boko Haram, al Qaida, AQAP, whatever.

Original Good Old Boy August 19, 2014 at 3:03 pm

I was against the war in Iraq from the beginning. I was against the war in Afghanistan from the beginning.
But, I’m not opposed to air strikes against those ISIS assholes. This is a rare situation where american intervention is actually welcomed by most of the world. We are not going to be seen as bullies by attacking ISIS. And if there’s a group in the region who we should help, it’s the Kurds, who are as close to us culturally as any other group in the region.
Fuck ISIS and I hope we continue to help the Kurds and others in the region by supplying air power.

Soft Sigh from Hell August 19, 2014 at 7:16 pm

Just how do the ISIS murderers differ from the Central American death squads that Saint Ronnie and the Republicans embraced? Killing Christians didn’t matter then, when they were “our” priest killers and nun rapers and peasant slayers en masse.

Hippocritter August 20, 2014 at 12:44 am

Oh, there’s much more than that going on in the world. There are atrocities going all over the place. But the good US empire must stop THIS particular atrocity for some reason…because it’s more important that the current 6 or 7 others in other parts of the world.

Jackie Chiles August 20, 2014 at 9:01 am

Other parts of the world don’t affect world petroleum prices as much.

Hippocritter August 20, 2014 at 9:43 am

Precisely…but what if that part world was more stable if we didn’t have presence over there?

What if prices actually eventually dropped over time as oil producing countries competed over customers?

If that was the case, not only would all the money we are spending to put our boot on their necks be a waste, we’d also be shooting that same boot ourselves if the above questions yield an different answer than the one currently expected….

Soft Sigh from Hell August 19, 2014 at 7:21 pm

Increasing global impotence.

Don’t fret America. It happens to every post-world-power. Just ask Britain, Russia, France, Germany, Austria, Turkey, France, and to go back further, Spain, Portugal, Holland. Try to find a hobby.

Christian LeBlanc August 19, 2014 at 7:54 pm

Some perspective via Wiki: …the Western Allies bombed many locations in France. The total number of civilians killed was 68,778 men, women and children.

euwe max August 20, 2014 at 8:07 am

When you listen to the bed wetting Republicans, we are *always* on the brink of being destroyed by *someone* – I can understand the hate radio perspective… it sells clappers and Goldline genuine gold clad end-of-the-world bux.


“Oh, my, Harold – did you hear that? Those filthy savages are going to behead Timmy, and throw Lassie down the well!”

I could understand “killing them all” if we were talking about the first year of the 400 year Inquisition… or the Crusades… but at least THEY had the ability to travel great distances and had a good grasp of the latest technology available at the time…. and they were actually going out of their way to kill people on other continents.

But we’re not. We’re talking about people that can’t even salute the same way, or march in step.


Oh, please.

Don’t we have drugs for anxiety?

There’s no secret anymore… even from the stupid people.. It’s about oil, not a physical threat of scimitars mowing down our A-10s.

Maybe the flag standers and barstool heroes would be happier if we dropped everything and started building B-17s out of scrap aluminum left over from GOPer hats. Bring back Rosie the Riveter!

Egghead libertarian August 20, 2014 at 3:40 pm

lol….I like this particular rant of yours. Lots of good in it.

euwe max August 20, 2014 at 3:54 pm

rants are easy – comedy is hard!


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