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A Secession Party Candidate?

S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley has improved her political standing in the Palmetto State in recent months … which probably wasn’t too difficult considering the depths to which she had sunk. Seriously … you know things are bad when a 43.5 percent approval rating is considered a marked improvement. But despite her…

S.C. Gov. Nikki Haley has improved her political standing in the Palmetto State in recent months … which probably wasn’t too difficult considering the depths to which she had sunk.

Seriously … you know things are bad when a 43.5 percent approval rating is considered a marked improvement.

But despite her modest uptick in the polls, Haley remains exceedingly vulnerable in 2014. Not  necessarily because South Carolina Democrats will field a savvy challenger against her (in fact there’s already evidence of some serious miscalculation on the part of her likely opponent, State Sen. Vincent Sheheen) – but because of third party challengers.

These challengers aren’t going to outdraw Haley … but they could move just enough votes out of her column to hand victory to Sheheen (or whoever the Democratic nominee winds up being).

One of these rumored challengers – former “Republican” lieutenant governor André Bauer – is the perfect example of the sort of candidacy that could derail Haley’s reelection bid. While Bauer is unlikely to draw more than five percent of the statewide vote (and that’s his “best case scenario,” people), that’s more than enough to throw the election to the Dems.

And he’s just one of many rumored third party possibilities …

In fact earlier this week we received reports of a possible “Secession Party” candidate entering the 2014 general election discussion. This rumored candidacy – which we’re told would originate from the South Carolina Upstate (surprise, surprise) – could siphon even more votes from Haley, assuming its standard-bearer (a gentleman described to us as an independently wealthy small businessman) gets on the ballot.

We have addressed the issue of secession several times in the past. Here’s what we had to say in December of 2010 … 

(W)e’ve contemplated the notion of South Carolina seceding from the union again … although this time it wouldn’t be to enslave black South Carolinians (our current failed status quo has got that covered), it would be to provide all South Carolinians with the sort of opportunity their local, state and federal leaders seem hellbent on depriving them of …

And here’s an evolution of that view published last November … 

(First), secession would have to be accompanied by the complete dissolution of South Carolina’s infinitely corrupt state government (and its banana republic municipalities, too). Second, a new form of government replacing these rotten edifices would have to be drawn up. This is especially critical given South Carolina’s status as one of the most backward, underperforming states in America – as well as the racial stigma that lingers from its prior attempt to secede.

Given this stigma (and the radical nature of the proposal itself), secession is a hard sell – even in a state where one-fifth of the population lives in mobile homes and wears overalls. And nearly half are Clemson fans (ba doom ching).

But if a “Secession Party” candidate has money and manages to breath from their nostrils upon occasion (or God forbid can articulately discuss how accepting federal largesse is costing us money and jobs), then there’s a chance Nikki Haley could lose 1-2 percent of her base of support.

Bottom line? The possibility of a “Secession Party” candidate running in the 2014 South Carolina gubernatorial election is unlikely on its own to make or break an election – but it is one of several wrinkles Team Haley will have to consider as it eyes a tough reelection campaign.

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44 comments

Smirks April 24, 2013 at 1:45 pm

As a major welfare (or as Republicans call them, “takers”) state, will SC be required to pay its share of the national debt in full before being allowed to secede?

How will we ever wean our state legislature off of Uncle Sam’s teat?

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sweepin April 24, 2013 at 2:15 pm

Better question(s). How will we wean the parents and grandparents, the aunts and uncles, those dependent on Interstate highway transortation, farmers whose incomes are intertwined with Federal farm programs, etc. off the “sugar teat” that Uncle Sam funds?

Who will issue the checks? The Tea Baggers? Folks? Haley? Davis?

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jimlewisowb April 24, 2013 at 6:02 pm

To me the question is

How will we ever wean our state legislature from sucking Washington dick

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Comrade1917 April 24, 2013 at 8:52 pm

USSA is bankrupt, comrade.
But, we will continue to counterfeit the USSA dollar.

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Publius April 25, 2013 at 1:53 pm

If they have the right to print fiat currency to pay off debt as the Fed does, then I’m sure they would have no problem “paying their fair share” :)

How about they waive their right to the “ironclad guarantee” of Social Security and Medicaid, we call it even?

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Smirks April 24, 2013 at 1:45 pm

As a major welfare (or as Republicans call them, “takers”) state, will SC be required to pay its share of the national debt in full before being allowed to secede?

How will we ever wean our state legislature off of Uncle Sam’s teat?

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sweepin April 24, 2013 at 2:15 pm

Better question(s). How will we wean the parents and grandparents, the aunts and uncles, those dependent on Interstate highway transortation, farmers whose incomes are intertwined with Federal farm programs, etc. off the “sugar teat” that Uncle Sam funds?

Who will issue the checks? The Tea Baggers? Folks? Haley? Davis?

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jimlewisowb April 24, 2013 at 6:02 pm

To me the question is

How will we ever wean our state legislature from sucking Washington dick

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Comrade1917 April 24, 2013 at 8:52 pm

USSA is bankrupt, comrade.
But, we will continue to counterfeit the USSA dollar.

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Publius April 25, 2013 at 1:53 pm

If they have the right to print fiat currency to pay off debt as the Fed does, then I’m sure they would have no problem “paying their fair share” :)

How about they waive their right to the “ironclad guarantee” of Social Security and Medicaid, we call it even?

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More Import. things to ponder April 24, 2013 at 2:06 pm

Hmmm, I wonder what kind of cake they are serving at the S&S cafeteria today? Hmmm.

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More Import. things to ponder April 24, 2013 at 2:06 pm

Hmmm, I wonder what kind of cake they are serving at the S&S cafeteria today? Hmmm.

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Moman50 April 24, 2013 at 2:10 pm

Silliness?Slow day Fits?At least us the name of the NUT!

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Moman50 April 24, 2013 at 2:10 pm

Silliness?Slow day Fits?At least us the name of the NUT!

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Riceski April 24, 2013 at 2:36 pm

She’ll never get reelected.

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Sam April 24, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Maybe she can work for Ms. Stukes.

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Riceski April 24, 2013 at 2:36 pm

She’ll never get reelected.

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Sam April 24, 2013 at 3:36 pm

Maybe she can work for Ms. Stukes.

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BigT April 24, 2013 at 2:59 pm

Haley’s not up for election for a while. But Sanford is…Hahahahahaha…

Sanford ain’t never been behind. Never been told “No”..And Daddy’s money may not be enough this time. …It’s a bit humorous to see it catch up w/ him…

Bigger question: does this site go Dark, if that idiot’s political career is FINALLY put out of its misery…???…Or do we have to endure FITS-News ’til the rest of the Liberal-Tarians (Mace and Davis) go the way of Big-Daddy Sanford???

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Start Your Own Blog April 24, 2013 at 5:48 pm

I think your ass can leave anytime you like, BigTwit!

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BigT April 24, 2013 at 2:59 pm

Haley’s not up for election for a while. But Sanford is…Hahahahahaha…

Sanford ain’t never been behind. Never been told “No”..And Daddy’s money may not be enough this time. …It’s a bit humorous to see it catch up w/ him…

Bigger question: does this site go Dark, if that idiot’s political career is FINALLY put out of its misery…???…Or do we have to endure FITS-News ’til the rest of the Liberal-Tarians (Mace and Davis) go the way of Big-Daddy Sanford???

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Start Your Own Blog April 24, 2013 at 5:48 pm

I think your ass can leave anytime you like, BigTwit!

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mph April 24, 2013 at 3:05 pm

Hey fits, I have a better story – Mark Sanford debating a cardboard cutout of Nancy Pelosi. Man, what is the wellspring for SC’s insanity?

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mph April 24, 2013 at 3:05 pm

Hey fits, I have a better story – Mark Sanford debating a cardboard cutout of Nancy Pelosi. Man, what is the wellspring for SC’s insanity?

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Right April 24, 2013 at 3:19 pm

“A gentleman described to us as an independently wealthy small businessman” from the Upstate. Can’t be Lee Bright, then. He’s broke as a joke.

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Right April 24, 2013 at 3:19 pm

“A gentleman described to us as an independently wealthy small businessman” from the Upstate. Can’t be Lee Bright, then. He’s broke as a joke.

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Marie Harrison April 24, 2013 at 3:35 pm

I think John Rainey should run in 2014. The Governor’s office needs someone with integrity.

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Marie Harrison April 24, 2013 at 3:35 pm

I think John Rainey should run in 2014. The Governor’s office needs someone with integrity.

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Mr clit April 24, 2013 at 3:43 pm

maybe she’ll get really desperate and hire Wes Donehue

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Mr clit April 24, 2013 at 3:43 pm

maybe she’ll get really desperate and hire Wes Donehue

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Palmetto Patriot April 24, 2013 at 4:44 pm

I would support the Secession Party if it’s a serious effort. The USA is replacing us with 3rd World immigrants and destroying our freedoms, prosperity and security.

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fred April 24, 2013 at 5:31 pm

Yeah you sound like you would support a “Secession Party” you YAHOO. Apparently the teabggers didn’t work for you.

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michaelCfromSC April 24, 2013 at 4:44 pm

I would support the Secession Party if it’s a serious effort. The USA is replacing us with 3rd World immigrants and destroying our freedoms, prosperity and security.

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fred April 24, 2013 at 5:31 pm

Yeah you sound like you would support a “Secession Party” you YAHOO. Apparently the teabggers didn’t work for you.

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Bill April 24, 2013 at 5:30 pm

Actually: Andre wouldn’t make a bad Governor. He did a great job as Lt. Governor. We just have to keep him out of the driver’s seat of a car, or air plane.

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Bill April 24, 2013 at 5:30 pm

Actually: Andre wouldn’t make a bad Governor. He did a great job as Lt. Governor. We just have to keep him out of the driver’s seat of a car, or air plane.

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Soft Sigh from Hell April 24, 2013 at 6:56 pm

The funniest theory I’ve read (and read perhaps here) is that Jakie Knotts is behind the Bauer run (they’re “buds” it’s said) and revenge on Haley is the sole goal.

Sordid, sure–“of the cesspool born”–but SC politics is rarely boring.

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Soft Sigh from Hell April 24, 2013 at 6:56 pm

The funniest theory I’ve read (and read perhaps here) is that Jakie Knotts is behind the Bauer run (they’re “buds” it’s said) and revenge on Haley is the sole goal.

Sordid, sure–“of the cesspool born”–but SC politics is rarely boring.

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Mark April 25, 2013 at 8:26 am

Andre’ Bauer? Seriously? Can’t this guy simply figure out he is not electable? It is always the same old lame ass narcissistic dick heads who throw their hat in the ring first. We will probably wind up with numbnuts Sheheen for sure.

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Mark April 25, 2013 at 8:26 am

Andre’ Bauer? Seriously? Can’t this guy simply figure out he is not electable? It is always the same old lame ass narcissistic dick heads who throw their hat in the ring first. We will probably wind up with numbnuts Sheheen for sure.

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9" April 25, 2013 at 9:04 am

I once believed in this thing called ,’progress’,but everyday,SC gets a little closer to,Herschell Gordon Lewis’,2000 Maniacs

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9" April 25, 2013 at 9:04 am

I once believed in this thing called ,’progress’,but everyday,SC gets a little closer to,Herschell Gordon Lewis’,2000 Maniacs

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9" April 25, 2013 at 3:34 pm

You know what’s more fucked up than Andre,Nikki and Mark? It’s YOU,taking this bullshit seriously.Get your shit together and be a REAL MAN!

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9" April 25, 2013 at 3:34 pm

You know what’s more fucked up than Andre,Nikki and Mark? It’s YOU,taking this bullshit seriously.Get your shit together and be a REAL MAN!

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