National Politics - 2016

Ben Carson Is Out

WHO WILL GET HIS SUPPORT? Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson is abandoning his bid for the presidency – further winnowing a “Republican” field that has been consumed by the meteoric rise of surprise frontrunner Donald Trump. “I have decided not to attend the Fox News GOP Presidential Debate tomorrow night in…


Retired neurosurgeon Ben Carson is abandoning his bid for the presidency – further winnowing a “Republican” field that has been consumed by the meteoric rise of surprise frontrunner Donald Trump.

“I have decided not to attend the Fox News GOP Presidential Debate tomorrow night in Detroit,” Carson wrote on his Facebook page.  “Even though I will not be in my hometown of Detroit on Thursday, I remain deeply committed to my home nation, America.”

Why is Carson not attending the debate?

“I do not see a political path forward in light of last evening’s Super Tuesday primary results,” Carson said.  “However, this grassroots movement on behalf of ‘We the People’ will continue. Along with millions of patriots who have supported my campaign for President, I remain committed to Saving America for Future Generations. We must not depart from our goals to restore what God and our Founders intended for this exceptional nation.”

Carson, 64, was receiving the support of nine percent of the GOP electorate nationally at the time he announced his decision, according to the latest aggregate polling from RealClearPolitics.

His high-water mark?  Early November, when he briefly overtook Trump as the national frontrunner …

Of course he quickly melted down after that … his campaign paralyzed by infighting and allegations that he fabricated some facets of his compelling personal narrative.

Carson joins former Florida governor Jeb Bush, New Jersey governor Chris Christie, former Hewlett-Packard CEO Carly Fiorina, U.S. Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky, Wisconsin governor Scott Walker, former Arkansas governor Mike Huckabee, former Louisiana governor Bobby Jindal, former Texas governor Rick Perry, U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham of South Carolina, former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum and former New York governor George Pataki as declared candidates who have abandoned their presidential bids.

Which of the remaining candidates will receive the lion’s share of Carson’s supporters?

Good question.

Carson has run as a political outsider, so there’s a case to be made some of his backers will go to Trump – the king of the outsiders during the current election cycle.  Of course he also performed reasonably well among social conservatives – meaning some of his supporters might be inclined to support U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas.

The problem?  Cruz’s campaign did a number on Carson in Iowa – and there was clearly plenty of bad blood between the two politicians in the aftermath of what happened.


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Crooner March 2, 2016 at 2:45 pm

What does Ben think “God and our Founders intended?”

idcydm March 2, 2016 at 3:05 pm

Probably not the same thing the rest of the politicians running for President think.

TroubleBaby March 2, 2016 at 4:04 pm

That’s probably a closet door you don’t want to open…

Terry March 2, 2016 at 5:18 pm

Well we know our “founders” envisioned a nation run by rich white men. I suspect many Republicans think god’s vision was the same. I guess by dropping out Carson is doing his part to restore the vision.

idcydm March 2, 2016 at 3:14 pm

Thank you Dr. Ben Carson for giving me the opportunity to vote for someone who actually had honesty and integrity.

Flip March 2, 2016 at 3:48 pm

No pyramid grain silos for us I guess.

pogo March 2, 2016 at 7:17 pm

Fits that was funny…

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Flip March 3, 2016 at 10:51 am

Friend’s mate? Wow if you are going to spam at least tell us it’s your sister or buddy. Even your hook sounds shady.

pogo March 2, 2016 at 7:16 pm

Very respectful post.Saw him at an event at a Christian university in Ohio and the way he spoke about ‘life’ should be in the Republican platform.Spent some time talking with his wife and she was very humbled by the Grace God has shown their lives.

Flip March 3, 2016 at 10:52 am

Sounds like you need to go back on the meds.

Flip March 2, 2016 at 3:48 pm

A few others need to join Carson.

pogo March 2, 2016 at 7:18 pm

Scared… aren’t ya bitch?

Flip March 3, 2016 at 10:50 am

I’m scared Hillary will win, because idiots like you supporting Trump will hand her the White House. Thanks a lot freeloader.

Squishy123 March 2, 2016 at 6:08 pm

Is it just me or does it appear that when Dr. Carson speaks, he comes across as someone who’s been sampling the drug company samples.

Mom March 2, 2016 at 6:17 pm

Ben Carson was a total gentleman throughout the entire campaign. I hope he will continue to work hard for his sincere desire for this country’s future. I believe he was doing “God’s Work” and it will pay off in some way.

jack March 2, 2016 at 7:42 pm

You mean when he stabbed that guy. Or when he attacked his mother. Or was it when he tried to get the KFC robber to shoot the guy behind the counter instead of him. Exact which act did Jesus direct him to do.

idcydm March 2, 2016 at 8:04 pm

You must not like Dr. Carson or is it Jesus you don’t like? Maybe it’s Mom or just people of faith in general?

Jack March 3, 2016 at 9:37 am

Ha, typical. Deflect. If you don’t like the question, attack the person asking it. Even if you know nothing about the person asking the question, attack them Isn’t that Carl Rove 101. My question was quite simple. Of all the acts Carson claimed to have done, which of them were gods work?

idcydm March 3, 2016 at 9:51 am

You ask a question that can’t be answered and you know it, so who is deflecting, Jack? One red herring deserves another.

Jack March 3, 2016 at 9:57 am

Well if you believe he is doing God’s work, you must know what that work is. How can you say he is doing God’s work but you don’t know what he is doing that is God’s work.

I am tired of Politicians claiming God told them to do this or God told them to do that. Apparently God wants us to have 5 or 6 Republican Presidents at the same time. So why didn’t he tell the “founders” that.

idcydm March 3, 2016 at 10:09 am

Here’s what one said:

It does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. ~Thomas Jefferson

Think about it Jack, does it really harm you or just piss you off.

Maybe one of these days when we figure out what was there before the Big Bang, what people believe will cease to matter.

Flip March 3, 2016 at 10:58 am

There aren’t a lot of politicians that claim to not believe in a god. I don’t think Jack is pissed off he believes in god, just the fact that he says what he’s doing is what god told him to do. Insane murderers claim that god told them to do what they do too. You don’t have to hate Jesus to know that it probably is not the case.

idcydm March 3, 2016 at 11:23 am

I don’t care if Jack believes in God or not. Religions like political parties are created by man, with all of man’s fallacies coming into play. If anyone injects God for what ever reason it does me no harm and I take it with a grain of salt, unless of course they are trying to kill me.

Tazmaniac March 3, 2016 at 1:56 pm

” I don’t think Jack is pissed off he believes in god, just the fact that he says what he’s doing is what god told him to do. ”

Then in this case, you don’t know Jack. Probably never will because he has no traceable posts either. Seems like even the regulars are going private now. I like the fact that anyone can see what i have posted over the years and it also shows I have adjusted some of my views after civil adult debate on the merit of their positions. One I can think of off the top of my head is Gay Marriage.

Flip March 3, 2016 at 2:24 pm

I’ve seen someone post as Jack on many different threads at least, I assume it is the same guy but who knows, that troll pogo likes to impersonate everyone here.

idcydm March 3, 2016 at 2:30 pm

And then there are some that don’t want you to see what they have posted in the past, judging from the many private profiles, right Flip?

Mom March 3, 2016 at 9:40 am

Obviously you’ve never had a teenaged boy. They do stupid things. And your references here happened when he was youngster. And if you had read his book, you would know a bit more about the context of these events. And you would know that he found salvation a bit later.

Flip March 3, 2016 at 10:53 am

Jesus asked him to repent of his sins rather than pull stupid stories out of his rear end.

shifty henry March 2, 2016 at 6:36 pm

THE LAW FOR THE WOLVES (Rudyard Kipling)

“NOW this is the law of the jungle, as old and as true as the sky,
And the wolf that shall keep it may prosper, but the wolf that shall break it
must die.

As the creeper that girdles the tree trunk, the law runneth forward and back;
For the strength of the pack is the wolf, and the strength of the wolf is the

Wash daily from nose tip to tail tip; drink deeply, but never too deep;
And remember the night is for hunting and forget not the day is for sleep.

The jackal may follow the tiger, but, cub, when thy whiskers are grown,
Remember the wolf is a hunter—go forth and get food of thy own.

Keep peace with the lords of the jungle, the tiger, the panther, the bear;
And trouble not Hathi the Silent, and mock not the boar in his lair.

When pack meets with pack in the jungle, and neither will go from the trail,
Lie down till the leaders have spoken; it may be fair words shall prevail.

When ye fight with a wolf of the pack ye must fight him alone and afar,
Lest others take part in the quarrel and the pack is diminished by war

samantha March 2, 2016 at 10:13 pm

Carson’s a good man. Wish we had more leaders like him. I pray with all my heart that he feels the great appreciation many of us have for him for stepping out on this limb and for helping to expose the right and the wrong of “politics”. I greatly appreciate his staunch Christan perspective. A sincere thank you, Dr. Carson. You are the classiest act that this country has seen as candidate for President of the US of A in many, many, decades if not centurys.

The Colonel (R) March 2, 2016 at 9:32 pm

“… The problem? Cruz’s campaign did a number on Carson in Iowa – and there was clearly plenty of bad blood between the two politicians in the aftermath of what happened….”

What a load of bovine excreta.

Carson wound up with 6% in Iowa. His highest numbers without the”dirty trucks” by Cruz and company – 10% and most of the time he has polled under 5%. He’ll make a great surgeon general, he is not presidential material despite his compelling story and sincere persona.

Anyone who buys this “Cruz did me dirty” narrative is naive in the extreme and apparently hasn’t ever paid any attention to presidential politics before.

idcydm March 3, 2016 at 7:14 am

I said many time on this site that Carson was too nice to become President but it didn’t stop me from voting for him.

Hank March 3, 2016 at 9:32 am

What a load of bovine excreta!!!. My guy is a lying cheating POS but it did not hurt your guy as much as you say. What a damn argument for a candidate. Cruz cheated. Cruz lied. We will never know for sure how much he hurt Carson, because you are relying on polls, not facts. We have no way of knowing whether people would have changed their minds at the last minute. So lets all get off the politically correct band wagon and call bull shit when we see it.

The Colonel (R) March 3, 2016 at 10:11 am

Fact – Carson has not received more than 10.2% of the votes in any single primary event
Fact – Carson generally receives 5-6% of the votes cast
Fact – Carson has received 566,000 votes in total in all primaries (5.8% of all votes cast)
Fact – Carson has earned 8 delegates
Fact – Carson has about $4,000,000 on hand (Cruz $14 mil, Rubio $5 mil)
Fact – There is no path to the White House for Ben Carson (except when he comes to visit after having been appointed Surgeon General, a job he is eminently qualified for)
Fact – Cruz’s “dirty tricks” did not affect the outcome of the Iowa vote and in fact amounted to nothing more than repeating a CNN story and attempting to sway potentially disaffected voters – nothing new there

Hank March 3, 2016 at 11:56 am

More BS. Of course there is no longer a path to the White House for Carson. There probably never was. But that is not relevant. That does not change the fact that had he done better in Iowa he may have done better elsewhere. He may have raised more money. He may have more delegates now. All that is possible. All that is speculation. The truth is the only facts we can discern from what happened in Iowa are: Cruz lied; Cruz cheated; Cruz has no character; Cruz will do and say anything to win; and Cruz is not a trustworthy person.

The Colonel (R) March 3, 2016 at 1:16 pm

“…Of course there is no … path to the White House for Carson. There …never was”

There, fixed it for you.

If saying that Cruz lied and cheated makes you feel better then go for it. Truth is politics is a full contact sport and Cruz has stood up for the right issues when it counts. The whole Sally Hemming/T. Jefferson thing was a smear aimed at keeping Jefferson from office. Google Andrew Jackson and the “Petticoat affair” where a virtuous woman was smeared without a whiff of truth in the name of making Jackson look bad. Cruz’s staff simply passed on what CNN reported. I know I’m not changing you mind – but you’re both wrong about the situation and naive about politics.

staffer March 3, 2016 at 10:47 am

Now Carson can get that nap he so desperately needs.

shifty henry March 3, 2016 at 11:03 am

Have any of you tried the new Starbucks “Foam-Over Trumpuccino” ..??


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