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Dash Cam Video Released In Zachary Hammond Shooting

CLIPS SHOWS 19-YEAR-OLD BEING GUNNED DOWN … OVER TEN GRAMS OF MARIJUANA Months after the fact, the S.C. State Law Enforcement Division (SLED) has finally released a dash cam video showing the fatal shooting of 19-year-old Zachary Hammond by undercover Seneca, S.C. police officer Mark Tiller. Hammond was shot and killed…

CLIPS SHOWS 19-YEAR-OLD BEING GUNNED DOWN … OVER TEN GRAMS OF MARIJUANA

Months after the fact, the S.C. State Law Enforcement Division (SLED) has finally released a dash cam video showing the fatal shooting of 19-year-old Zachary Hammond by undercover Seneca, S.C. police officer Mark Tiller.

Hammond was shot and killed by Tiller during a hastily arranged drug bust … over ten grams of marijuana.

We’ll repeat that: This kid lost his life over ten grams of pot.

Anyway, here’s the clip …

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Unbelievable …

The video depicts Tiller rushing up to Hammond’s car with his weapon drawn.  Hammond, who was unarmed, attempted to flee the scene – at which point Tiller opens fire.

We showed the clip to a veteran law enforcement agent and asked him if it was a “good shot” – i.e. police code for a justifiable use of deadly force – or a “bad shot,” which is obviously an incident in which the use of deadly force was unwarranted.

“There is a question of whether the officer created the deadly force situation,” the agent told us.  “In other words, he may have been justified in using deadly force at the time it was used. However, the officer created the circumstances that justified the deadly force.”

Indeed … which is the problem.

“The moment that (Hammond) pulled away and the officer had his hand out toward the side view mirror, I could make the ‘good shot’ argument,” the agent continued, although he quickly added “I think the overall opinion may be bad for the cop.”

Of interest?  Police officers are trained not to shoot into moving cars unless they are dealing with a dangerous criminal – and have been left with no other option.

“(The) cop probably shouldn’t have shot him,” our expert concluded, although he did say Hammond “shouldn’t have been slinging dope.”

Our view?

Tiller created this “deadly force” situation by trying to go “Rambo” on this poor kid – over what amounts to a little more than a quarter bag of pot.

“Even if you subscribe to the anti-liberty view that recreational pot use should be outlawed, in what universe is entrapping a citizen over ten grams of weed a proper prioritization of law enforcement resources?” we wrote earlier today in addressing this case.

That’s the lesson here: This bust never should have gone down.

The Hammond dash cam video was released by SLED on the same day S.C. tenth circuit solicitor Chrissy Adams declined to press charges against Tiller.  Adams has refused to release any additional information related to the incident because it is currently under review by federal authorities.

Stay tuned …

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182 comments

Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 5:41 pm

Watched the video, good shoot. The little bastard tried to run over the cop. The amount of drugs is irrelevant.

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CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 5:47 pm

Yep and yep!

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southmauldin October 27, 2015 at 6:14 pm

The little bastard was a druggie and a dealer. They have released his texts and he sounds like a wanna-be thug. And we get a chance to see the skank that he was on a “date” with, too. A real methhead-looking redneck. Don’t run from the cops, don’t get shot.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:35 pm

So you’re ok with pigs fatally shooting unarmed teens in the back because they drive away from a scene?

Are you serious?

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CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 6:39 pm

An automobile is a one-ton (give or take) bullet. As such, he was not unarmed.

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Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 6:47 pm

Yep, the little snowflake was armed with a 3000 pound automobile, which in the video shows him trying to run over the cop. Little dead snowflake made the decision to put himself in harms way, use deadly force against another human being and that he didn’t feel like getting arrested, so instead of leaving the scene in a police car he left it in a coroner’s van. No fucks given for the little bastard.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:51 pm

He was not trying to run over the pig. He was trying to flee the scene. Al the cop had to do was get the license plate and pick him up later…or at the very worst shoot out the tires.

Doesn’t matter, you’ll always get the cops’ back no matter what evidence is presented. That is apparent from all your pro police murder posts.

Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 7:01 pm

So you’re okay with criminals fleeing the scene?

“shoot out the tires”, you watch too much fucking television. You never “shoot out the tires”, “shoot to wound”, etc… you shoot to stop the situation. I didn’t think this blog could find someone more ignorant than GrandTango but I guess I’m wrong.

Come on October 27, 2015 at 8:55 pm

“which in the video shows him trying to run over the cop”

Really bro? Really?

Rocky Verdad October 27, 2015 at 10:06 pm

Nope. Shows him driving around the “retard with a gun” – Feds will have to take care of business – again. Dang – pot’s deadly in SC.

Mike at the Beach October 28, 2015 at 2:00 am

Do grown ups really still refer to cops as “pigs?” That’s pretty funny…

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Mr. Helper October 28, 2015 at 7:37 am

I prefer calling them “bacon”. It seems more respectful. Sometimes I call them “pork bellies” too.

Tazmaniac October 30, 2015 at 2:58 pm

Mike, I have been waiting on you to pop up. I’m highly interested in your opinion regarding this video. I was trained from 1980 to 1983 and while tech has dramatically changed, the basics are still the same. From that perspective, I see a huge amount of errors in this Officer’s actions. I can be Pro-LE and still see that this is a bad shoot, I don’t know why folks want to insist otherwise. PS: that pig thing is 60s juvenile speak.

Mike at the Beach October 31, 2015 at 12:29 am

Yeah, I feel like it’s pretty obvious that the cop in that video screwed the pooch, procedurally speaking. That doesn’t make it murder, though, which is where all the irrationally angry cop-haters head to straight away. That cop put himself in a bad position, then misinterpreted (I think) what was going on. That, however, is a disciplinary action / lose yer job thing, not a go-to-prison thing. Luckily, despite all of their faults the members of SCOTUS are not usually intellectually challenged – they have ruled for years that cops cannot be judged upon whether they are objectively correct after the fact, but that they were acting reasonably under the circumstances as they would have appeared to that mysterious “reasonable perosn.” It’s just the old Graham v. Connor thing again – “The reasonableness of a particular use of force must be judged from the perspective of a reasonable officer on the scene, rather than with the 20/20 vision of hindsight.”

I think the cop screwed up, but I totally get the solicitor’s legal decision not to prosecute. Sounds contradictory, I know, but if 20/20 hindsight ruled cop work, who in their right mind would *ever* pin on that badge and agree to protect us, knowing that they had to be right 100% of the time no matter what – in the dark, under tremendous stress, and in about a fourth of a second – or it’s off to the pen they go. It just wouldn’t work. I hate the kid got killed, I really do, but he bears the greatest portion of the responsibility for his own death. Slinging dope (even relatively minor amounts) is a dangerous, dirty business. The cop (and his apparently crappy tactics / decision-making) were a contributing factor.

Tazmaniac October 31, 2015 at 9:30 am

Thanks for your input. You would make a great Judge. The downside is you would have spend your day with Lawyers. I guess in this case of two wrongs the tie goes to one alive.

Rocky Verdad October 27, 2015 at 10:05 pm

Bull Squishy – he was driving around the cop. Wasn’t even going fast. Cop should have called it in and had other units pull him over. It’s Seneca SC – where the fook do you think he was gonna go?

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Tunes'n'News October 27, 2015 at 5:45 pm

The solicitor released a whole lot of background information in letter to SLED. Much of it is a red herring that passes for character assassination. It appears Hammond was a drug user and a low level drug dealer. But Tiller knew of none of that at the time, and it’s not relevant. The video shows a summary execution by Tiller for failure to heed his call to stop, not because Tiller was in danger. Tiller shot into a car with more than one occupant. Hammond should have stopped. No doubt. Tiller should be charged.

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E Norma Scok October 27, 2015 at 5:55 pm

Agreed.

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Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 6:08 pm

“execution”??? Thank you Jesse Sharpton. The little fucker tried to run over a police officer. Hope it was a closed casket funeral.

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Tunes'n'News October 27, 2015 at 6:20 pm

No, the little fucker tried to escape. HE created and escalated a dangerous situation by failing to comply with the officer. No argument. But look at the frame grab above. Does fleeing from a drug buy = a justified shooting through a side window? My opinion is no. And when I’ve been pulled for speeding, I turn off my car and radio, turn on the dome light, open the driver’s side window, put my hands on the wheel and say yessir nosir, and tell him I’m beforehand that getting the paperwork from the glove compartment, no matter how pissed I might be.

And Google “ad hominem” while you’re at it, then call me another name, but only if you don’t understand how it weakens your argument. I’ll hang up and listen

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:24 pm

I’m tellin’ brother..many of the people on this site have no problems whatsoever with cops brutalizing and killing unarmed citizens simply because the person does not comply.

This is what people in S.C. are willing to put up with. They’re happy to let cops trample their civil rights and run rough shod over the constitution but refuse to provide expanded medicaid to the most needy among us. What a shit hole.

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Tunes'n'News October 27, 2015 at 6:30 pm

If Hammond hadn’t been shot, yes, the police would have had to apprehend him later. Maybe with risk to themselves or the public. We don’t know how that may have gone down. And Hammond would have bought at least a decade, probably two in prison for his efforts. I have a lot of respect for police. They’re underpaid a great deal. They assume risks the rest of us don’t. But they don’t get a 007 license to kill assholes.

21stconfed October 28, 2015 at 10:02 am

so they can’t call his parents house tell him to turn himself in and they will try get him PTI. sounds scary, glad i don’t have to do it. monsters…

15 will get you 20 October 29, 2015 at 9:52 am

because with the multiple warrants he had already, that route really worked didn’t it? The kid was a fugitive drug dealer that tried to run a cop over to stay free. are you upset your drug connection is gone?

Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 6:45 pm

Maybe we’re just tired of little worthless bastards who have no respect for the law. The little bitch who got tossed across the classroom felt she had every right to disregard what the teacher, administrator, and resource officer told her to do while she was in class because little chocolate snowflake felt she she was entitled to use her cell phone during class. The reason SC may be a shithole is partly because people like you live in it.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:46 pm

So what, you want to empower the government to go around teaching “civics lessons” to kids by using law enforcement officers to beat and murder unarmed kids.

Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 6:48 pm

How is that worse than your wanting empower kids to disregard the law?

Rocky Verdad October 27, 2015 at 10:04 pm

Let’s kill ’em all then, because Squishy’s upset.

21stconfed October 28, 2015 at 10:04 am

“…just tired…” retire or get a new job or embezzle but dont murder someone

Conservative values October 27, 2015 at 8:34 pm

Yeh but they have

“Conservative values”

gobacktoohio October 27, 2015 at 10:57 pm

wah wah go tell that to black lives splatter. nobody cares here in sc

21stconfed October 28, 2015 at 10:00 am

they also don’t approach your window with a gun pulled and pointed at you. honestly if i was pulled over and saw the cop approach like that i would run too. never been in trouble, at all. you have no idea what they could be on or even if they are legit. to be honest we don’t know if tiller is either.

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pathetic October 28, 2015 at 12:09 pm

“you have no idea what they could be”??? Really??? a cop with his lights on? moron

vicupstate October 28, 2015 at 8:25 am

The officer was never directly in front or behind the car. He was not in imminent danger of being run over.

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21stconfed October 28, 2015 at 9:52 am

tried to run away..dumbass jump in front of him.

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speaking of dumbass heres you October 28, 2015 at 12:08 pm

good you are fucking high. I am worried for our future if you are allowed to breed

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ELCID October 28, 2015 at 12:33 pm

Fuck you, kid was shot in the back!!!
Cop was completely out of the way.

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CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 5:46 pm

Looks justified to me. As with the Black idiots who died because of their wanting to be stupid and fight when they would have lived had they just cooperated, this white idiot died for the same reason. I can see his wild and reckless maneuvering as placing the officer’s life and safety in jeopardy. Had dumbass not decided that jeopardizing the officer’s life and losing his own over 10 grams of pot was a good idea, chances are he’d be alive today.

I still want to know what department gave Will a ticket, yesterday. Also, did Ben Fields ticket him in the past or something? Fits has been enjoying its little cop bash fest the last two days.

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Tazmaniac October 27, 2015 at 6:03 pm

You and I rarely disagree, and I always value your opinion, especially in LE matters but you have to check out the audio included version. IMO, it pretty well shows this guy shooting the kid in the back as he drove by. Its a bad shoot, and the officer didn’t follow correct training with his positioning in relation to the car, again IMO. Cops are people too, and people can easily make a mistake in a high tension situation like this. The kid running was fuel to the drama fire, but it wasn’t like he is a Mexican Cartel member wanted for multiple murders, good training would have dictated cooling this down and picking the kid up later.

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CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 6:07 pm

Hi Taz! Can you tell me where to find the version with audio?

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Tazmaniac October 27, 2015 at 6:11 pm

Let me know what you think after viewing.

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CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 6:25 pm

Hi Taz! I was hoping there would be a clearly defined sound of gunshots, letting you know exactly what point (and angle) the shots were fired. I played it twice and heard no shots. I heard what sounded like the tires grinding or maybe the engine revving at one point as he was driving to stage left, but am still unsure as to when exactly the shots were fired.

I agree that the pot and most drug laws in this country are stupid, unnecessary, and only bolster the drug trade and organized crime, rather than impede it. Still, I am having a very difficult time mustering any sympathy for the decedent, given his apparent disregard for the life and safety of the cop over 10 grams of weed.

Tazmaniac October 27, 2015 at 6:39 pm

The shot was at 12 sec. mark, officers weapon was LEFT axis about 30 to 45 degrees from center.That is important because the car is traveling to the LEFT of the RO Everything was wrong. First, as i understand they basically already had the goods on this kid and were using the girl to bring him out. ONE officer shows, doesn’t park in a blocking mode (45 degree angle on left rear of suspect) which would have given the RO cover for a Felony Stop. RO then runs over to car placing himself in poor position to defend if either suspect wanted to shoot. then he continues to remain near the steering axle which is another no no. Where was his radio? This will become training film. I have no doubt that the kid is a dirtbag, but this was wrong.

End Game October 27, 2015 at 6:51 pm

“Toxicology reports showed that Hammond had drugs in his system at the time, Bland said, but he wouldn’t comment on what type or amount. Adams said in a letter to SLED that Hammond tested positive for cocaine and marijuana, and both drugs were found in the car packaged as if for sale.

In text messages found on Hammond’s cell phone, Hammond said he was “in full outlaw mode” and intended to “go out shootin,” Adams said in the letter. He also says he had run several police checkpoints in the previous weeks, including one in Clemson on June 23 that was verified by Clemson city police.

“Almost every text message deals with Hammond selling drugs to multiple individuals including marijuana, acid, cocaine and prescription pills,” she wrote. “The text messages indicate Hammond was actively evading arrest by flight and evading law enforcement due to his outstanding warrant.”

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:58 pm

The officer had resigned from the dept. a month before and there is some speculation that he had previously been in trouble for excessive force. Yet, he was allowed to rescind his resignation and return to the force anyway.

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Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 7:05 pm

The world is a better place with this little shit stain eliminated.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:08 pm

You’re a disgusting human being. I can’t believe you want to enable cops to have the right to murder unarmed teens on site. No jury, no trial, no judge…just murder straight up.

Doing drugs? October 27, 2015 at 7:14 pm

Was this guy one of your dealers? Murder? Really? You are a moron. Dude ran his car at him end of story yes it was a good shot

a face in the crowd October 27, 2015 at 7:23 pm

It was an execution, plain and simple. In no way did the kid run his car AT the cop. The cop could not possibly have been struck by the vehicle.

Doing drug? October 28, 2015 at 8:55 am

you have no basis to watch a video and make that determination. you see a video in 2D and make a guess as to if he would have been hit or not based on what proof? Only your opinion. Try to watch it with out smoking pot first. You haven’t. Bottom line is the kid tried to flee in a 2000+ lbs automobile and could have run the cop over. He was determined to get away so what makes you think he wouldn’t have run the cop over? Seriously was this POS your dealer?

Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:24 pm

I would call double tapping an unarmed teen, in the back no less, murder.

Doing drugs? October 27, 2015 at 7:42 pm

try to stay sober and watch it again drugie

21stconfed October 28, 2015 at 10:14 am

watched it, worse than i imagined. that kids could have taken out some shrubs. Think how much hardees would have had to pay to replace those. potentially scuffed the curb. could you imagine the drop in value.

CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 7:21 pm

He wasn’t “unarmed”. He had control of the joystick for a 2000 lb (+/-) bullet.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:23 pm

So that’s what passes for being armed now? Great, cops will now kill people filming them with iPhones b/c the cops will say they can throw the phone at me and potentially hit me in the head with it, knock me out and I hit the pavement and die.

CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 7:28 pm

More people die from automobiles each year in this country thsn from firearms. Regardless of intended purpose, any object can (and likely has been) be used as a weapon withvdeadly results. I’m notbsure how many people die by cell phone each year, though.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:34 pm

People drown in pools too…so we don’t outlaw pools but we do require fences and barriers to protect small children. It’s the same with gun control. Not taking away guns but controlling them.

CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 7:37 pm

We have thousands of controls on them throughout the land. Only thing is we seem to have more crime in the areas with heaviest controls because the only people the controls work on are the ones who aren’t a problem to start with.

Tazmaniac October 27, 2015 at 6:59 pm

Never said the kid wasn’t guilty and deserving of prison time. As much as I HATE to say it, the officer was negligent and the kid should be sitting alive in a jail cell. Call me armchair QB all you want, but I’ll bet I’m equally if not more qualified to watch that video and make an evaluation.

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CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 7:34 pm

I wouldn’t accuse you of armchair quarterbacking, Taz. I know you have been and done. You are one of the most logical and level-headed people on here. I do respect your opinion on this matter, even if we are not 100% eye to eye on it. This is one of a very few (if any) such issues that we might disagree on.

Hoffman October 27, 2015 at 7:38 pm

Kids can still get acid? Good to know. I though that stuff had nearly disappeared.

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21stconfed October 28, 2015 at 10:10 am

was tiller drug tested? not just recreation but steroids also.

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stumpknocker October 27, 2015 at 6:20 pm

would you have shot him in the head?

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CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 6:37 pm

I don’t know stumpknocker. I wasn’t in that cop’s shoes. I’m being serious. From the camera’s vantage point, I can see what looks like actual jeopardy he is putting the cop in with his reckless maneuvering of the car. I can’t say that I would or would not react as the cop did, given the same up-close stimuli he was subjected to. As such, I am more than willing to believe the cop deserves a pass on this one.

As I have stated more than once, I don’t know anyone who truly wants to shoot another person. I have been placed in a position of almost having to on more than one occasion, thankfully with circumstances changing at the last second as the trigger and hammer were coming back. I admit I would have enjoyed stomping a mudhole in the butts of those who almost caused me to have to do it for their intense stupidity, but I did not.

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stumpknocker October 27, 2015 at 9:20 pm

my faith in your humanity is validated

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Tazmaniac October 27, 2015 at 7:06 pm

“I still want to know what department gave Will a ticket, yesterday”

It was a full body cavity search on the side of I-77 for a broken turn signal! LOL

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CorruptionInColumbia October 27, 2015 at 7:23 pm

I think so! LOL!!!! Deputy Fields must have loaned them his steel wool gloves for the procedure.

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PHI October 27, 2015 at 6:00 pm

Don’t give chase, just shoot ‘um in the face. ~Judge Dredd

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stop bitching October 27, 2015 at 6:11 pm

Its a good shot. don’t flee and almost run the cop over. anyone that says otherwise is an idiot that is looking for justification when they break the law.

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trollbitchin October 27, 2015 at 6:29 pm

I’m calling bullshit.

Sounds like you support any shot as a good shot.

People oppose brutality, or outright murder, and you suggest that their opposition is solely based on a desire to break the law.

WOW.

Keep drinking that kool aid, pal.

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Quit bitching October 27, 2015 at 7:10 pm

Keep smoking that pot, you are clearly high and just a troll

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guest October 27, 2015 at 6:15 pm

So, the editor’s opinion is that the suspect in a “low level” crime should be free to just drive away and ignore a command from a police officer? Does the perp get to decide how serious his crime is? Are cops supposed to not approach a possible crime scene for fear it may “escalate”? BTW, whether or not this POS was actually ATTEMPTING to kill the cop or not, by continuing forward, he demonstrated he was WILLING to run over the policeman if he didn’t get out of the way. I’m sure his parents will be wailing about how his smile just lit up every room he entered. Please. His death is his own fault and nobody else’s, except maybe his parents.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:19 pm

So you’re down with pigs shooting unarmed kids because they drive away from cops?

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guest October 27, 2015 at 6:31 pm

I don’t believe the officer knew he was unarmed when he approached the car. Driving away when a cop is practically draped over the car with a drawn gun might cause reasonable people to think this POS was up to something serious or had possibly just committed a serious crime. To answer your narrowly worded question, in this case, yes.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:33 pm

Right, there you go ladies and gentlemen. According to this guy cops in this state get a full license to kill when you’re unarmed and refuse to comply just so they can teach you a lesson.

Disgusting.

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guest October 27, 2015 at 6:44 pm

Under your reasoning, how is a police officer ever allowed to approach someone or much less make an arrest if the suspect just doesn’t feel like “complying” with proper commands? I guess a smart cop, in your opinion, would just walk away and leave them alone. Especially since they would know, of course that the suspect was only a “low level’ criminal and of course, unarmed.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:55 pm

It’s about the appropriate use of force to match the situation. Not the over use of force or the application of deadly force when it’s not warranted.

You are happy for cops to swat flies with a howitzer.

Plain Clothes Cops October 28, 2015 at 8:58 am

I dont believe the kid knew he was a cop. no lights, plain clothes, gun drawn. i would have run too

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bull shit October 28, 2015 at 9:18 am

you can clearly see lights flashing in the video.

bull shit October 28, 2015 at 9:26 am

go back and watch the video again. at around the 40 second mark on there is a odd flashing going on in the back left of the drug dealers car, at the same time the cops shirt seems to magically change colors back and forth from the actual color of his shirt to a hint of blue kind of like what would happen if the cops lights were on. Translation THEY WERE ON.

Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 10:08 am

Well given the tight turn he was make, my guess is both hands were on the wheel in full view. You let him leave since you don’t have back up, and go to his house and arrest him. It’s in Seneca for God’s sake, where’s he gonna go?

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21stconfed October 28, 2015 at 10:05 am

watch the video again.

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puff puff give October 28, 2015 at 12:25 pm

it will just show EXACTLY what he is writing about to be confirmed. maybe you should watch it again, but put the bong down this time

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:18 pm

Fucking disgusting pig…still gets to stay a pig. I hope the parents get more than the $50 million they’re asking for and the Feds charge this pig with murder.

Fucking S.C.

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Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 6:41 pm

Why did the little bastard try to run over the cop?

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 6:56 pm

He didn’t. Stupid pig was jumping around the car like a rabbit. The kid was just trying to drive away.

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Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 6:58 pm

Is it your advice when pulled over by a cop who has his weapon drawn to “just drive off”? Kid made a decision, the wrong decision.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:00 pm

Is it your advice that pigs get a free pass to murder unarmed people because they drive off?

Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 7:02 pm

You didn’t answer my question.

Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:08 pm

You didn’t answer mine.

Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 7:59 pm

I asked first.

you do drugs October 27, 2015 at 7:41 pm

then leave it if you don’t like it, crack head

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:50 pm

Because I want to try and make it better. I’m sick of living in such a shitty state.

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Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 7:59 pm

So do something about it, like fucking leave.

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You do drugs October 27, 2015 at 9:03 pm

You must be on welfare and can’t leave, but no matter what you only make the state worse off

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Ed October 27, 2015 at 9:06 pm

Limbaugh is a whiney bitch.

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Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 6:50 pm

Will, you seem to be focusing on the amount of drugs Hammond had. Would your opinion change had it been 10 pounds of meth or heroin?

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BARNEYFWANK October 27, 2015 at 7:01 pm

keep thinning out the herd . good riddance to the stain

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Tazmaniac October 28, 2015 at 8:42 am

Uh, would that not be “good widdance”?

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Elfego October 27, 2015 at 7:02 pm

I do not think you can use deadly force to make an arrest per say. I would hate to be in this officers shoes from what I see. If there is not much more evidence than what I see he has a problem.But this is Monday Morning quarterbacking and I would like to see and hear all the facts.
We are at a stage in America where no one respects authority any longer and I am of the opinion it is only going to get worse. The Justice System in America sucks and it only protects the Elite and covers for them.If you think I am wrong look at what occurs daily in DC.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:05 pm

Would you respect law enforcement when they get away with murder…literally? It’s only b/c the advent of video evidence on social media catching them out nowadays that the public is more aware of the abuse and corruption of cops….and we’re sick of it.

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Ed October 27, 2015 at 9:05 pm

Limbaugh is a whiney bitch

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Nasty Bob October 27, 2015 at 7:02 pm

The greater question- undercover. I didn’t see a badge anywhere. Some guy in plain clothes with a gun rolls up to me? Im bouncing.

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waltmitty October 27, 2015 at 7:08 pm

great if only that was limbaughsfatkunt. what a wonderful world it would be

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:10 pm

No worries. I have every confidence that somehow you’re a weapons holder and given the stats and the continuity of time…you’ll end up doing yourself in

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Ed October 27, 2015 at 9:05 pm

Limbaugh is a whiney bitch.

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cuyahogacontamination October 27, 2015 at 7:14 pm

limbaughsafatpussy .stay the fuck in ohio . dont pollute our state

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Original Good Old Boy October 27, 2015 at 7:25 pm

I can’t believe the number of people defending the cop. The cop ran over to the window, gun drawn, and tried to put his body in front of the car. But he was then easily able to get out of the way (he was never in the way to begin with) and only shot him as he was driving past. The cop got angry, in other words, that Hammond was escaping, so rather than calling in the plates or getting back into his car, he executed him.

It’s amazing that people can view this video and believe that the shooting was justified. This is really not much different than the Walter Scott shooting — shots fired at a fleeing suspect when they could easily apprehend him at another time.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt October 27, 2015 at 7:27 pm

Good luck with this crowd. They are A O.K. with cops murdering citizens on site to “teach em a lesson”

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two face October 27, 2015 at 7:39 pm

Wouldn’t surprise if most of them are the ones on here hollering about abortion being murder and harvesting babies for fetal tissue research too.

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you guys are high October 27, 2015 at 7:54 pm

no but we aren’t the ones blindly defending a drug dealer we use from time to time by claiming the video never shows what it really does. he tried to run him over point made end of debate.

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21stconfed October 28, 2015 at 9:50 am

TRIED TO RUN HIM OVER?!?!? he was trying to get away from someone who had a gun pointed at him. Anyone points a gun at me I am either shooting back if I am armed or running if i am not or can’t get to it. perfectly natural and reasonable response

do another line drugie October 28, 2015 at 12:07 pm

good, then you would have been shot too. It wasn’t a someone it was an officer of the law with lights on his car you dumb fuck. if a cop points a gun at you shut the fuck up and stop.

Sarah Failin October 28, 2015 at 10:01 pm

Not really, dude. I’m not sure why the cop shot the guy (seems unwarranted), but the video certainly explains why the cop acted.
Shame this kid lost his life, but if Big T got shot, would any of us say anything?

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Squishy123 October 27, 2015 at 7:57 pm

Would you prefer we defend the person selling drugs to kids?

Why do tomorrow what you can do today?

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Original Good Old Boy October 27, 2015 at 8:09 pm

I would prefer that our cops don’t act like roid-raging meatheads who think they are judge, jury, and executioner.

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Squishy123 October 28, 2015 at 9:38 am

Well I guess you’re out of luck Bubba.

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Mike at the Beach October 31, 2015 at 11:03 am

If fired-up cop haters would settle down just for a minute and at least *attempt* to recognize their own biases, they may realize that their gripes are with a tiny percentage of cops (and that those cops generally get handled by the system). I won’t bore everyone with the numbers again, but cops engage citizens millions of times a year in the US, and only a small fraction of those interactions involve the use of force. An even tinier fraction of that fraction involves inappropriate use of force, but every single one of those makes the news. Emotion makes this discussion tough, though.

9" October 27, 2015 at 9:19 pm

What does it take to be a cop ? A GED ,low self-esteem,and a thirst for power

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nitrat October 27, 2015 at 9:28 pm

And, you get to kill people or beat them up or railroad them into prison with impunity.

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flip October 28, 2015 at 8:02 am

You just described the liberals on Fits.

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Squishy123 October 28, 2015 at 9:38 am

So kind of like a “top” for gay men.

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ELCID October 28, 2015 at 12:32 pm

Kid was shot in the back!!

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Todd October 27, 2015 at 7:35 pm

White kid. No one cares. Does not advance media agenda. Move along.

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stumpknocker October 27, 2015 at 9:17 pm

as if you gave a shit

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Ken October 27, 2015 at 9:03 pm

Unacceptable.
Worse thing that could have happened is they pick the kid up from his parents house later that night.
No hardend criminals here. No risk to the public. Just a dumb kid and an even dumber cop.

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stumpknocker October 27, 2015 at 9:16 pm

a killer cop, he shot him point blank in the head

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Rocky Verdad October 27, 2015 at 10:07 pm

How America sees South Carolina –
1. North Charleston cop shooting a guy in the back
2. Dalyn Roof
3. Shooting into a moving vehcile over a joint.

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flip October 28, 2015 at 7:41 am

How the world sees America under Obama:
1. China, Russia and our military-LAUGH
2.Iran,ISIS and ANY Radical Islamic organization-THEY LOVE US

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 10:11 am

Sure, you keep dreaming. Russia – the third world country that’s down to 12 months cash reserves – they’ll be out of Syria in 6 months with nothing to show for it but dead bodies.

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TARevolution October 28, 2015 at 8:45 am

And the smart blame Jim Clyburn, ‘Pootlian and Jesse Jackson for the ignorance and ass-backwardness…because it is their false theology that leads to your poverty and spiritual unresponsiveness.

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Gee I woinder why??? October 29, 2015 at 10:41 am

What about Jarvis Hall? Oh that’s right why would I ask. He is the POS that killed a white cop for no apparent reason other than he wanted to kill a white cop. It didn’t make news as much since the races were reversed therefore it cant be racial, so why show it? Also why not talk about Greg Alia? The cop that died and his infant son. Or better yet his wife who was at the Harvest Hope food bank volunteering less than a week after her husbands murder when the floods hit. Yeah again black man killing a white cop isn’t “racist” so it doesn’t make news and surely the generosity of the grieving widow putting the communities needs WAY ahead of her own wont make the news either. No, people like you are the reason America might see SC like that, because that’s how you want to see it and that’s how you want to portray it. take off your blinders and see it for how it really is. That’s not my SC.

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Bye Bye Bad Cop. October 27, 2015 at 10:38 pm

This rogue out of control cop will hang for this. Lawsuit will bankrupt that little puissant town. Murder charges, like in he Scott case, are mandated.

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flip October 28, 2015 at 7:42 am

Drug problem-not cop problem.

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Bye Bye bad kid October 28, 2015 at 8:49 am

not the cops fault at all. dope head kid tried to run him over with the car. nothing like Scott case. Not one thing will or should happen to the cop or town

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Todd October 27, 2015 at 11:29 pm

Plus LOL at having a Solicitor named “Chrissy.” Sounds like a real tough customer.

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nitrat October 28, 2015 at 8:40 am

Hell, son, we have a governor who proudly named herself “Nikki”, not Nicole, not Nicola, “Nikki”…with 2 Ks and an I.

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Former LEO October 28, 2015 at 12:08 am

This was a bad shoot even though the officer tried as hard as possible to needlessly and wrecklessly put himself in a deadly situation, he was unable to get in front of the car. He tried hard, to do it. Didn’t quite make it. However, the officer did manage to accomoplice his primary objective that he has in mind as soon as he got out of the car – which was to shoot and kill this kid. Low life though the kid may have been. This was a horrendous shoot. This cop had better thank his lucky stars this kid wasn’t black or some other ethnicity/race besides white. Rather than stonewalling the requests for info, the cop would be fired and in jail – probably on federal civil rights violation to boot.

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 7:05 am

#WhitePotHeadKidsLIvesMatter

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#Bidenhidesbehinddeadson October 28, 2015 at 7:35 am

Liberals and libatards want to legalize drugs and this will be a common theme for our young people.

Whites are busy raising their families and paying bills-unlike 90% of blacks.They don’t have time to protest and we don’t pay enough.

People need to stop hiding behind behind their dead kids for profit.

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TARevolution October 28, 2015 at 8:42 am

Well said. We’re in a culture WAR…and these leftwing religious fanatics are just as guilty as child sacrifice as any of the other failed, and false religions before them…

And like all broken cultures, the modern left is as greedy as any…they are just lazy, w/o the courage as the savages of lore…

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flip October 28, 2015 at 9:18 am

Thank you.I figure Rocky has just clocked in at FitsNews and is drawing up a response?? :)))

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 10:19 am

Blah, blah, blahblah, blah. Bush lover.

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 9:55 am

If black folk ain’t payin’ no taxes, you can thank that there Mr. Bush W for increasin’ them income credits so’s they don’t have to. I’ze actually wich you on da tax thin’ – deyz ain’t gots no skin in da game.

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flip October 28, 2015 at 9:58 am

Blame Jackson,Sharpton ,the NAACP and the rest of the race hustlers enslaved on the plantation-riding the perpetual welfare train while their children are educated in failing schools.

All it costs em is a vote.

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 10:18 am

Jessie and Al didn’t vote for the 2001 tax give away.

shifty henry October 28, 2015 at 8:24 am

I looked at the video several more times, and what I see is:

1) – the kid knew it was a LE officer as soon as the cop stopped his car at an angle and away from the kid’s car

2) – there is a reflection on the kid’s car left taillight which appears to be coming from a grill light on the cop’s car – before the cop got out of his car

3) – as the kid attempted to drive away, the cop was not in danger of injury, other than maybe having a foot run over

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flip October 28, 2015 at 9:17 am

Well stated.I am disturbed that according to the video the car had cleared the officer and he was standing on the side of the car shooting.This shooting reminds me of the shooting by a University of Cincinnati PO of a man he had stopped for no plate or DL.The guy just tried to leave and the officer reached into the car to stop him,When the car started to move away the PO shot him.

God Bless our PO. Two more were shot in Savannah last night.The liberals that you read on FitsNEWs perpetuate these shootings/killings with their hate toward law enforcement and disdain for order in our communities.

I worry that incidents like this give the American hating left ammunation to destroy those that serve and protect.

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 9:53 am

Hey, maybe it’s not distain, maybe it’s we let the criminals have more guns. More guns hurray.

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flip October 28, 2015 at 9:56 am

Guns? Never seen a gun fire on it’s own. People kill people.We gonna take away cars from people after the lady ran over the people in OK?

Think about it.We take guns from liberals and people in those living in urban areas and we live in a safe country.

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tomstickler October 28, 2015 at 10:55 pm
Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 10:03 am

Flippy – here’s some factoids for you.
Officers Killed in Line of Duty from National Law Enforcement Memorial Fund:
2013 – 107
2014 – 117
2015 – YTD 101 (if two got killed last night in Savannah it’s 103)

Yeah, it’s much worse than during anytime in recent memory. This didn’t happen during the Bush years.
2004 – 165
2005 – 163
2006 – 156
2007 – 192

Oooops – your arguments about Obama causing some great increase – FAIL.

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flip October 28, 2015 at 10:05 am

Faux argument.Ask the FBI and it’s director.He just told us what is going on.

Obama declared war on law enforcement and is now reaping what he sowed.

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 10:09 am

Number suck, eh? Numbers are down nearly 40% from before Obama took office. That’s why real cops love Obama.

shifty henry October 28, 2015 at 10:15 am

I’ll add more for you later on this today….. from my experiences

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shifty henry October 28, 2015 at 2:46 pm

Wasn’t there a report that the woman in the car was the one who was there to sell drugs? Some reports said that the two were on a “first date” — that makes it sound so sweet and innocent — like my daughters going on their first solo dates.
We allowed them to start dating on their 14th birthday but only with other kids and a parent must be driving. At 16 they were allowed to start dating solo but with a non-adult driver. We were fortunate that policy worked well. My granddaughters followed the same rules. I love them all ..!!

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TARevolution October 28, 2015 at 8:49 am

FITSNews is a lockstep, leftwing robot…who dutifully falls in line with what his liberal gods tell him to do. Nice cliche FITS. It proves you have nothing unique, different or intelligence-based to offer.

But thanks for the forum. Your leftwing brethren in the website business will not allow posts from Conservatives, and the intelligent (redundant, I know.)

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Yelsewh October 28, 2015 at 9:09 am

I’ve watched the video half a dozen times now. It’s easy to second guess the cop, and there’s no way to know what he was actually thinking, but it’s possible that he thought the driver was trying to run him over. Tie goes to the runner.

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flip October 28, 2015 at 9:29 am

Nice analogy.

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Going to hell October 28, 2015 at 9:17 am

All these idiots saying the cop should have done this, or should have done that, need to go F themselves. This is what should happen when a drug dealer that may or may not be armed with additional weapons tries to run you over with a 3000 pound weapon that will squash you. You know what? On second thought maybe the cop should have let him go and picked him up later, assuming the kid didn’t run away. Or maybe he had plans that next weekend so he should have let him go to that first and not inconvenience him with an arrest until it was over. You know I heard in about 10 years he was going to want to have kids so maybe wait until he did, then arrest him. But then the kids would have a father in prison and nobody wants that so lets wait until they are at least out of school. You know we might as well wait even more to arrest him as he may want to see his kid get married. Screw it, he wanted to get away so lets just let him go. What a bunch of crybabies we have here sympathizing with a criminal. I wonder why? Perhaps they too have broken the law and have problems with the police so they are willing to over look the fact this kid was dealing drugs, on drugs, disobeyed a direct order, tried to run away by running over the cop, and now they want to paint him out to be some innocent bystander and the cop never should have been there. Its very simple. Don’t do drugs, Don’t deal drugs, Don’t run from a command, Don’t try to run over the cop. If he would have followed any of those things (which are laws by the way) he would be alive today. We may never know

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flip October 28, 2015 at 9:29 am

90% of the contributors on FitsNews are liberals and HATE this country like Obama.HATING and wishing the destruction of those that serve and protect is just a natural extension of their God-less depravity.

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 9:54 am

Oh get over it. We don’t hate America. We love America. That’s why we run for, and win, the White House.

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flip October 28, 2015 at 10:02 am

You have lost EVERY election from dog catcher to the senate since 2008 and 5 of the last 9 Presidential elections.

Dems can’t win without Amnesty or illegals in the future.They need a whole new class of voters as middle America has turned on em.

Dems run as moderates to get elected then govern as socialists.They couldn’t get elected otherwise.

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 10:10 am

Really!! Love your numbers. 5 of the last 9? How about we’ve won 4 of the last six Presidential elections. That’s 4-2 – for Ohio State that’s considered a roll.

nitrat October 29, 2015 at 8:31 am

So, I guess that means all those Republican presidential terms have done all the damage to the country you complain about.
Yeah, I thought that, too.

LouieBouy October 28, 2015 at 9:40 am

Civil suit is next. Big $$ payout? The consultants these days are saying pay out big $$ before anything goes to trial. Was the onlooker at the end of the clip a buyer or supplier?

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oldTVeng October 28, 2015 at 9:56 am

Did anyone else notice that it is very bright to be a quarter past midnight?

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Rocky Verdad October 28, 2015 at 10:04 am

Does look rather daylight don’t it?

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staffer October 28, 2015 at 9:59 am

Police murder hack: Jump out in front of a car to make you reasonably scared for your life then shoot the driver, with or without probable cause that a crime was committed.

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Mr. Columbo October 28, 2015 at 10:03 am

You were the one buying drugs at the scene?

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staffer October 28, 2015 at 11:51 am

You can’t walk out in the rain and have a legitimate claim against someone else because you got wet. And, by the time he pulled the trigger he was no longer in any danger. If he want to stop the kids (who was allegedly committing a misdemeanor) he should have just shot the tires out and called reinforcements. No way that kids would have gotten away. He would be charged with the drug crime and resisting arrest but he would still be alive. I know a lot of good cops and I haven’t found one that said this was the way to handle a pot bust with a teenager.

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Manray9 October 28, 2015 at 11:33 am

Three things jump out to me: 1. This is another tragedy tied to the failed War on Drugs. The bottom line is this kid was killed in a marijuana bust. Why should that have happened? 2. I have sympathy for the cops — they’re often damned if they do and dead if they don’t. But there seems to be a bit of “Dirty Harry” tough guy running through the veins of some officers today. Their resort to violence is too quick. Perhaps it’s better to back off and de-escalate on occasion? They couldn’t have taken the kid’s license plate number and picked him up at home? 3. Yet again there is, at least, a whiff of cronyism contaminating justice in South Carolina. I am suspicious of Chrissy Adams’ motives.

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Speak D Truth October 29, 2015 at 10:38 pm

They young adult with a history of running from the cops could have not tried to run also.

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Manray9 October 30, 2015 at 10:23 am

What?

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ELCID October 28, 2015 at 12:32 pm

If this kid had been black the entire world would be in SC wanting this nut job cop’s head. Instead, only Black Lives seem to matter to the NAACP and the ACLU. More concerned about an out of control black kid at Spring Valley than an out right murder of a white kid and a major coverup by the local prosecutors in the same State.

What a bunch of hypocrite bastards.

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Supid Will. October 28, 2015 at 12:51 pm

Plenty of cases made against “veteran” police officers who go rogue, don’t know the law, and are full of shit like the one reported on in this story. This cop is committed murder- PERIOD.

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You are the stupid one October 28, 2015 at 2:18 pm

Bullshit. Kid tried to run away by trying to run the cop over. you are a fucking retard PERIOD

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PigsAgain October 29, 2015 at 11:37 am

After 9/11 the pendulum swung so far in favor of Cops that they began to believe that they could do no wrong. Now the pendulum swings back. This is why we used to call them PIGS.

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truthmonger November 8, 2015 at 5:47 pm

I’d love to know WHO your “veteran law enforcement agent” was. He obviously has NO idea what he’s talking about. LOTS of “veteran” law enforcement officers out there who have NEVER worked the street a day in their careers…. and quite a few of them are highly placed, and quite a few at the police academy.

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