Pollsters Protest Fox News

PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE CRITERIA QUESTIONED … || By FITSNEWS || The Marist Institute for Public Opinion – which conducts nationwide polling in concert with left-leaning McClatchy media – is suspending its “Republican” presidential surveys in protest of how Fox News is using the data to narrow the field for an upcoming…


|| By FITSNEWS || The Marist Institute for Public Opinion – which conducts nationwide polling in concert with left-leaning McClatchy media – is suspending its “Republican” presidential surveys in protest of how Fox News is using the data to narrow the field for an upcoming GOP debate.

Fox is using an undisclosed average of five recent national polls to narrow the GOP field from 17 candidates to ten debate participants.

The final snapshot will be taken on Tuesday – forty-eight hours before the ten lucky candidates hit the stage in Cleveland, Ohio.

The seven also-rans?  They’ll appear prior to the main event in an undercard “forum.”

Marist isn’t playing along any longer, though …

“It’s a bad use of public polls,” said Lee Miringoff, director of the institute. “It asks public polls to have a precision that ignores the margin of error. There’s a big distinction made where there’s no statistical difference.”


Candidates are likely being included or excluded from the Fox News debate based on margins of error that are larger than the level of support they are receiving – to say nothing of the minuscule differences between candidates at the lower end of the totem pole.

The lack of scientific foundation isn’ the only reason Marist is backing away …

“The public polls are affecting the process they’re supposed to be measuring,” Miringoff added, noting several recent publicity stunts by candidates.

Fox is standing by its methods, claiming its final debate participant list will be based on “common sense and fairness.”

“Common sense would tell you that there is no formal schedule for who releases polls and when. And fairness would tell you that we can’t judge any poll until you can see the methodology,” the official said. “When the results are released, everyone will see that common sense and fairness prevailed.”

While Marist’s pollsters make some good points, we’re not all that concerned regarding the “fairness” of the methodology here.

Fox is televising this debate – meaning it can invite whomever it wishes to participate.  If a candidate doesn’t like that, tough.

Do better in the polls …

Also, as we’ve noted this debate boils down to Trump versus the “Republican” establishment – with the nine GOP candidates appearing on either side of “The Donald” facing a critical decision.  Do they follow Perry’s model and attack the outspoken, politically incorrect candidate?  Or do they recognize that Trump’s rise is being fueled by something bigger than the candidate – and pay deference to him in an effort not to alienate the GOP voters gravitating toward his candidacy?

We shall see …


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erneba August 3, 2015 at 12:12 pm

Marist has its panties in wad, because they don’t like Fox News. Latest word from Fox, the public, and candidates: we will figure a way to survive without you.

sparklecity August 4, 2015 at 9:43 am

I’ve been doing fine without watching Fake News Channel since its inception
Now, I DID like “Imus In the Morning” on Fox Business but Imus left a few months ago and now Fox Business is dry as desert dirt and dull as watching paint dry.

GOTRUMP August 3, 2015 at 12:23 pm

I does not matter. There are only three people in the race. Trump, Bush, and whoever convinces the Koch brothers they will be obedient servants when they are in the White House. Bush speaks for the establishment. Trump speaks for himself and the people, and the Koch Candidate speaks for the Koch Brothers.

Yes, GOawayTrump August 3, 2015 at 12:36 pm

Trump is a fraud. He might be speaking for the thousands of foreign laborers he brings over to work his resorts or the Mexicans and Chinese who make his clothing line. Not Americans, though.

GOTRUMP August 3, 2015 at 12:43 pm

The frauds in this race are Walker, Cruz, Fiorina, and everyone who went to Koch World for the week. (Except Bush who is there to try to convince the Kochs to unite with the establishment). David Koch is running for President, he just is doing it through a servant, who they will pick soon.
Keep on saying Trump is a fraud. It just shows you are either an establishment stooge or a Koch ass kisser

flip August 3, 2015 at 1:20 pm

You are nuts.Walker or Rubio will be nominee. All Trump is doing is getting rid of Bush.That is the only reason Trump is running.

Spend your time giving your opinion on why Sgt. Wasserman Schultz can’t define the difference between socialists and the Democrat Party and breaking down the soon to be comedy show of the head injured Clinton v. Biden aka brain sugery/injured….

Tom August 3, 2015 at 2:16 pm

If Walker or Rubio are elected we are doomed. We may as well sign up to kiss the ass of Koch just like they do. Remember that time Walker thought he was getting a call from David Koch and almost pissed all over himself. It turned out he was being punked by a radio show. What a loser. Yes sir Mr. Koch, Whatever you say Mr. Koch, How high Mr. Koch. Can I wash your ass Mr. Koch. Pathetic.

Not happening August 3, 2015 at 3:54 pm

They won’t be. Don’t worry.

flip is right!!!!!!! August 3, 2015 at 4:26 pm

Walker or Rubio WILL be the nominee!

Just not the president!!!

Yes, GOawayTrump August 3, 2015 at 1:37 pm

Trump IS a fraud. I noticed you didn’t deny that he imports thousands of forgiven workers for his resorts and has his clothing line made in China and Mexico…all the while claiming to be the best for the American worker. That’s the definition of a fraud.

sparklecity August 4, 2015 at 9:10 am

What do you want to bet that the “Make America Great Again” (or whatever….) cap that loudmouth wears from time to time AIN”T made in the USA!!!!!
Some reporter ought to ask to inspect that loudmouth shit’s cap and see what’s on the label…………..
All he/she’s gotta do is say “hey there Donald, how’s about you let me have a quick look at your cap there buddy boy”
Odds are that shit won’t hand it over. then make an issue of it…..
If I DID go to a Trump rally(which I wouldn’t cross the street to hear/see that loud-mouthed cowardly fuck), that’s the first thing I would do……….

Scooter August 3, 2015 at 8:30 pm

Or a scared Democrat

Sic Semper Tyrannis August 3, 2015 at 3:33 pm

A very fair statement.

sparklecity August 4, 2015 at 11:05 am

Kinda sorta agree but that loud mouthed coward Trump sure as hell don’t speak for me – I’ll tell you that much.

Speak D Truth August 3, 2015 at 12:25 pm

Everyone know that the polls aren’t scientific. If a candidate gets in at number 10 that should be number 11 then that means the number 11 guy got in. That’s the chances of being a mid pack candidate. Both guys need to make the most of their circumstances.

TooFunny August 3, 2015 at 12:36 pm

And the republican shit show rolls on….

Republican TV August 3, 2015 at 12:47 pm

Is it any wonder why people call Fox News GOP TV? It isn’t news at all.

flip August 3, 2015 at 1:25 pm

CBS-Communist Broadcasting System
CNN-Communist News Network
MSNBC-Moronic Sic Nuts Broadcasting Communism

RogueElephant August 3, 2015 at 3:59 pm

Best description I have heard lately.

NOTV August 3, 2015 at 4:32 pm

I don’t watch cable news, it’s all shit. Why can’t you guys admit Fox News is unashamed in its huge Republican bias? Does admitting it make you feel uncomfortable?

GOB August 3, 2015 at 4:37 pm

I always like CBS or “See B.S.”

sparklecity August 4, 2015 at 9:39 am

My retort is:
MSNBC has Mika Brezenski (looks,brains and class all rolled into one fine package) and none of the others don’t!!!!!
Put that into you pipe and smoke it in the basement of your mother’s house!!!!
Since you think there is only one news channel you are no different than the PRADA News agency of the former Soviet Union.
There ain’t much difference between communists and hard right as far as mindset goes…………Attitude is identical

idcydm August 3, 2015 at 1:46 pm

Is it any wonder why *Democrats* call Fox News GOP TV…there fixed it for you.

Sic Semper Tyrannis August 3, 2015 at 3:35 pm

It is

How Is It Not GOP TV? August 3, 2015 at 4:28 pm

Found (one of) the Fox News viewer!

Jack August 3, 2015 at 3:43 pm

I prefer the Fake News Network. I think that is more accurate. Most of what they say is made up. They are the only news network, whose viewers know less news than people who do not watch news at all.

idcydm August 3, 2015 at 7:38 pm

This from the guy that said other news outlets are right down the middle.

Liberal = Ignorant August 3, 2015 at 1:43 pm

NAZI Liberals have not changed in 90 years.

LD August 3, 2015 at 3:17 pm

Please explain “NAZI Liberal”. I always though of liberals as “thinkers” and not “followers” like conservatives.

RogueElephant August 3, 2015 at 4:03 pm

The liberal sheep follow their wolf masters. Conservatives think for themselves. Look at the Republican candidates. From mushy middle moderates to rock solid conservatives. And all in between. No two Republicans are the same but liberals, Dims and socialists are stamped out like cookies at a bakery. All just alike.

Sic Semper Tyrannis August 3, 2015 at 4:05 pm

That is a bogus statement. You should know better rouge.

True Diversity is Conservative August 4, 2015 at 7:06 am

Great post, R.E.

sparklecity August 4, 2015 at 9:26 am

Looks to me like R.E. is actually describing independents……(the fastest growing group in politics and the MOST influential and COURTED during national elections!!!!). But that smug self righteous dinosaur won’t admit it nor will any of his kind……EVER His type (maybe you as well) is just as delusional as the hard left.
Remember that “lock step” remark by Newt?
Actually it should have been “Goose-step” but that is for another day…………
it’s just too bad Beau Biden passed. I think he was the one to bring the Democrats away from some of the shit they have painted themselves into. No doubt they are floundering for sure…..

Scooter August 3, 2015 at 8:34 pm

Thinkers? You can’t think with crap for brains.

Sic Semper Tyrannis August 3, 2015 at 3:34 pm

Why should they?

Centrist View August 3, 2015 at 3:42 pm

Poll rankings are influenced by name recognition. And how do these candidates obtain that recognition without media coverage or being in the televised debates?

It looks like the excluded candidates will be out because of Fox News’ Double Super Secret Suspension Candidate Elimination Method.

Sic Semper Tyrannis August 3, 2015 at 4:03 pm

I actually love the, FOX news network.Their confusing reterict is Good for the people.

MashPotato August 3, 2015 at 4:26 pm

Your rhetoric confuses me.

Sic Semper Tyrannis August 3, 2015 at 4:29 pm

That’s the FOX way, it confesses me also.

Scooter August 3, 2015 at 8:32 pm

Fox is getting more poplar every day. Live with it.

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Slartibartfast August 3, 2015 at 4:39 pm

?=?n? . Do that without tweaking, and then call me back.

I like cookies August 3, 2015 at 9:30 pm

Protesting Fucks News is like protesting AIDS.

shifty henry August 3, 2015 at 10:29 pm

The Zoo is now open ….. I’m going to watch my animated version of “Animal Farm (1954)”.


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