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… AMERICA HELPED BUILD IT || By FITSNEWS ||  The U.S. military-industrial complex was on its heels in late 2013/ early 2014.  Americans were weary of war, sick of its costs and in a decidedly non-interventionist mood.  Not even the best laid plans of our so-called “partners in peace” –…

… AMERICA HELPED BUILD IT

|| By FITSNEWS ||  The U.S. military-industrial complex was on its heels in late 2013/ early 2014.  Americans were weary of war, sick of its costs and in a decidedly non-interventionist mood.  Not even the best laid plans of our so-called “partners in peace” – nor the homegrown fearmongering of U.S. Senator Lindsey Graham – were enough to goad America into racking up additional debt on its blood and treasure credit card.

Then along came the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) – a sinister new terrorist menace which, according to the war gods in Washington, D.C., has necessitated an increasingly costly “War on Terror II.”

But where did ISIS come from?  Good question.  According to a sprawling report in Medium, the organization’s rise was facilitated in no small part by … wait for it … American intervention.

And no … we’re not taking about the creation of “martyrs” via drone attacks.  We’re talking about honest-to-God unholy alliances involving money and weapons – strategic partnerships entered into with explicit foreknowledge.

“Western governments deliberately allied with al-Qaeda and other Islamist extremist groups to topple Syrian dictator Bashar al-Assad,” the Medium report stated.

Hold up a minute … we already knew our nation’s intelligence apparatus was aligning with al-Qaeda allies in Syria (here and here), but what does that have to do with ISIS?

Well it turns out our government’s support for militant jihadists in Syria was undertaken – and continued – with the knowledge such a policy was fueling the rise of the multinational jihadist group.

This isn’t conjecture, either.  According to an August 2012 U.S. Department of Defense (DOD) memo (.pdf here), our government explicitly predicted the forerunner group to ISIS was preparing “to declare an Islamic State through its union with other terrorist organizations in Iraq and Syria” – and that this new terrorist organization would “create grave danger in regards to unifying Iraq and the protection of territory.”

So were steps taken to mitigate this “grave danger” (a.k.a. ISIS)?  Of course not … in fact every effort was made to encourage its development.

“This is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime,” the memo stated.

Wow …

We’ll read that back to you one more time …

This is exactly what the supporting powers want …

Yeah.  Do yourself a favor and remember that line the next time the anti-ISIS spin machine kicks into high gear.

“The revelations contradict the official line of Western governments on their policies in Syria, and raise disturbing questions about secret Western support for violent extremists abroad, while using the burgeoning threat of terror to justify excessive mass surveillance and crackdowns on civil liberties at home,” the Medium report concluded.

Ya think? 

This website is by no mean condoning ISIS’ atrocities – nor its threats against the United States.

We are, however, urging U.S. citizens to take a long hard look at where ISIS came from … and to think long and hard before (once again) buying the spin they’re being spoon fed by the warmongers.  We’re also saying non-interventionist politicians who claim to support a more responsible foreign policy (ahem, Rand Paul) need to start exposing these truths rather than caving to the fiction.

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249 comments

Birthers For Cruz May 24, 2015 at 2:55 pm

Hey no mention of Super Hawk Ted Cruz?

Is he finally off your list of acceptable candidates?

If you are going to call Graham a warmonger,the same applies to Cruz.

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Bible Thumper May 24, 2015 at 4:33 pm

If this story is true, is Hillary Clinton on your list of warmongers? She was SOS all during the formation and execution of this policy.

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Zed May 24, 2015 at 5:33 pm

You are both correct. This is no time for partisan blinders.

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say what? May 24, 2015 at 6:52 pm

You are so full of shit….and a fucking socialist. You hate Christians,mock the Tea Party,posted on another blog that you have been a VERY liberal Democrat your entire life and supported marxist Gloria Tinabu.

You are pro abortion,pro gay marriage and believe you are entitled to live on the perpetual welfare train for the rest of your life.

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Zed May 24, 2015 at 10:13 pm

I’m no socialist. I supported Tinubu because she’s a good person and she is not Tom Rice. I supported Tinubu to say “fuck you!” to crooked-ass old Jim Clyburn, who was behind Rice all the way. Dr. Tinubu is to the left of me on many issues, but I believe her heart is in the right place and she genuinely cares about people. Tom Rice, not so much.

I stated that I HAD BEEN a liberal Democrat all my life. That is true. I became a Republican in 2009. But I had not voted for a Democrat for POTUS since the first time that Clinton ran. I consider him to be a piece of shit.

I have seldom spoken of abortion. In truth, I hate it. I also hate to see girls and women have to carry a baby to term if it will kill them, or if they have been raped. I oppose late term abortions. I abhor abortion as a form of birth control. I also despise idiots who oppose both abortion and birth control. Let everyone have birth control and there would be far fewer abortions.

I am on no welfare train. Far from it. I do draw social security, which I paid into. No SSI, even though I am disabled.

Virtually everything you believe about me is the opposite of the truth. But you are obsessed with me and consider it your mission in live to attack me. It must be a truly empty life.

RogueElephant May 25, 2015 at 7:42 am

If memory serves me correctly , a famous Englishman once said : A young person who is not a liberal has no heart, an older person who is not a conservative has no brain. Seems to apply to you.
Tom Rice had more supporters that were Dims than Republicans. I and a friend worked our collective buns off for Ander’ only to be beaten in the primary. He was the only honest candidate in the race. I guess that is why he lost. Where did you get the name Zed ? It has several different meanings. One was used where I formerly worked ?

fc May 25, 2015 at 8:32 am

Zed euwe max • 2 days ago

But JESUS, euwe. But JESUSSSSS!

All is forgiven instantly if you are a good Christian Republican who mouths the right words and votes the right way. Including covering up horrific actions by your fucked-up offspring who likely got that fucked up by being raised by you.

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This was Zed/Box two days ago about Christians.There are more despite the deletion of his past Christ hating/Tea Party hating comments on Fits.

Notice he didn’t mention gay marriage?He is trying to hide from what he is.Ashamed I guess.Who wants to be defined as a freeloading radical leftist that supports socialist/marxist candidates?

euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:34 am

hide from what he is

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still using the same old, well-worn cliches I see.

euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:35 am

I’m a liberal.

…and I have a brain.

How do you explain that?

“I…”

“SILENCE!”

fc May 25, 2015 at 8:46 am

“I am William H. Martin, a long-time SNOB commenter, now banned. Not interested in discussing banning and such here, or controversies involving personalities. Discussion of political stories that appear in The Sun New, from local to international, seem to me to be a more reasonable and desirable aim for this forum.”

ANYBODY that disagrees with you is ‘obsessed’ in your opinion.You can’t stand Christian conservatives OR those that differ from from your radical and perverted world- view.I reply to ALL on Fits-not just you.Get a life.65 is awfully late too start but I got faith in ya!

And my guess leads to the above.

Birthers For Cruz May 24, 2015 at 8:38 pm

What about her?

I was questioning Fits credentials as some kind of libertarian on foreign policy issues due to his support of the Superhawk Cruz.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein May 24, 2015 at 3:20 pm

The ISIS savages are ripping Belgian babies out of Kuwaiti hospital incubators and tossing them on bayonets for fun and are intent on world domination like Hitler and Tojo!

We must DO SOMETHING!!!

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FastEddy23 May 24, 2015 at 5:41 pm

How about we make a really big pile of hand grenades in the desert half way between Ramadi and Bagdaddy … Last man standing wins! … Film at 11.

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euwe max May 24, 2015 at 6:24 pm

we should make a law that’s binding in Arab countries… without the UN!

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with this ring...woof May 24, 2015 at 7:13 pm

Hang in there euwe.First gay marriage than people can legally marry their animals.

“Americans increasingly think that animals should have the same rights as people, according to Gallup polling on the issue.”

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/this-poll-shows-americans-are-starting-to-think-differently-about-animal-rights/ar-BBjXEFF

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euwe max May 24, 2015 at 7:41 pm

make US laws binding in Arkansas?

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guest May 24, 2015 at 8:47 pm

Start with California?

euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:24 am

Too much, too soon…

Try Colorado.

Mike at the Beach May 24, 2015 at 11:16 pm

That’s a stretch…

euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:22 am

We should at least try it before we start trying to enforce laws in the Levant.

Let’s bring a couple of pig-fuckers to justice… just to show we have the backbone to actually do it!

Limbaughsaphatkhunt May 25, 2015 at 12:27 am

Can’t we just nuke the whole area?

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barrysaidso May 24, 2015 at 3:47 pm

Thought they were the Jay Vee team and we were winning…

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just sayin May 24, 2015 at 6:54 pm

Barry is a ‘closet’ muslim…Anwar Sadat was a ‘closet’ Christian. It happens.

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Liberal deconstruction May 25, 2015 at 9:46 am

Beck was talking for 6+ years about the formation of the Caliphate and the plan for reforming the region as it was in the latter 1800s. Were he and his compatriots right? Seems the President is working hard in what he perceives as social justice all around the world! God help us.

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fc May 25, 2015 at 12:06 pm

Good points.
What an especially sad Memorial Day it has to be for those military families that have served and have lost loved ones.What has become of our nation when we elect a traitor of this nations founding and values…an American hating ‘closet’ Muslim too occupy the people’s house and disgrace it with his disdain for our nations laws,its Constitution and institutions INCLUDING the military and those that have fallen in defense of ‘liberty and justice for all’.

America will prevail again.

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Pogo Dick May 25, 2015 at 5:40 pm

Shit…Reagan and Rumsfuck sold weapons and Bush and Chaindick lied. But carry on, Dumbass…

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guest May 25, 2015 at 6:29 pm

Thanks Bozzz.

Bible Thumper May 24, 2015 at 4:36 pm

Hillary Clinton has some splan’n to do.

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well? May 24, 2015 at 5:29 pm

I’m sure she will be every bit as adept at explaining away her failures / blaming them on others as your idol Haley is.

Tell me again how all these hand picked cabinet directors resigning in disgrace is not Haley’s fault at all?

http://thenerve.org/news/2014/02/17/Haley-Cabinet/

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Zed May 24, 2015 at 5:32 pm

Heh!

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Bible Thumper May 24, 2015 at 6:50 pm

Haley has better gams.

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Zed May 24, 2015 at 10:00 pm

True.

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just a fact May 24, 2015 at 7:03 pm

There is a big difference between Haley and Clinton (excluding Hillary is brain injured from her fall and strokes)….Haley loves America….Clinton hates America…

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Heart May 24, 2015 at 7:56 pm

Haley loves Haley, not sure about the rest

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Tobago May 24, 2015 at 9:19 pm

S S? Same Old Shit?
Yep, that fits Hillary!

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FastEddy23 May 24, 2015 at 5:36 pm

1) ISIS is not new. The Sunni’s have been in a twist ever since Gulf War I when they and Sadamn’ Red Guards were driven out of Baggedad. They have been scheming and plotting a come back since. Whether their “allies” are really allies or not, matters not.

2) ISIS is not new. There have been holy wars in the Middle East since … since … Moses found the promised land … there. The arrival of the Islamic faith(s) has turned up heat of the conflicts … since the Eighth Century … and continues.

3) ISIS is not new. The Shi’ite disturbing Bedowin tribes have claimed that desert and never agreed to the original UN treaties of 1946/1947 … Or the original real estate deals struck between Arabs and Israelis early in the 20th Century. At the first signs of success by those Israelis, even the Arabs began to claim “they were robbed” and wanted to asses extra taxes, tithes and tributes. The Israelis paid in Gold and insisted that the deals be good. … Since 1919.

4) … ISIS is not new. The Islamic states have always had a “male over-population” problem. But that is to be expected in a culture where women are treated like cattle, slaves and birthing machines … Allah commands and the boy child is sent to the front to make his militant mark.

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RogueElephant May 25, 2015 at 7:56 am

It looks like the She its and Sunnis are going at it . I say when your enemies are fighting each other, stand back and watch the show. The more of them that kills each other the fewer of our troops have to suffer. A few B52 strikes can bring them back to reasonable levels for the cleanup. Just like in Vietnam: I wouldn’t trade one American for the whole damn place.

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euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:21 am

stand back and watch the show

Just like in Vietnam: I wouldn’t trade one American for the whole damn place.

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from your lips to God’s ears!

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FastEddy23 May 25, 2015 at 2:20 pm

Instead of B-52s … a couple of well placed drones targeting the mullahs in command.

Ditto re: the whole lot of ’em ain’t worth the sweat of one U.S. GI.

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shifty henry May 24, 2015 at 5:44 pm

Photo Caption: “MOM WITH LOVE”

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Bible Thumper May 24, 2015 at 6:37 pm

I bought my mom one of those at “South of the Border.”

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euwe max May 25, 2015 at 5:49 am

“We’re going to Disneyland!”

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 8:32 am

10+

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euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:36 am

Keep this up, and people are going to think you’re a liberal. :)

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 9:43 am

how so?

euwe max May 25, 2015 at 11:42 am

The general assumption is that if you lay down with dogs, you get up with fleas.

idcydm May 24, 2015 at 5:48 pm


According to a sprawling report in Medium…”, Nafeez Mosaddeq Ahmed…enough said.

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Sims May 24, 2015 at 7:54 pm

I trust that crowd in Washington about as much as I trust ISIS.

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CynthiaJBooker May 25, 2015 at 3:39 pm

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt May 24, 2015 at 8:24 pm

Of course they are bad guys…but there are bad guys everywhere. Hell, Mexican drug gangs have murdered more people than ISIS but you don’t see the U.S. gearing up to invade Mexico.

Plus, it’s mostly Muslim on Muslim violence…should we really get in the way?

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rachelmadcowKauntawhor May 24, 2015 at 8:42 pm

Muslim Obama doesn’t ‘get in the way’ of black on black violence in this country.
He can blame whites.

Muslim Obama supports ISIS/ ‘Muslim on Muslim violence’ cause they are killing Christians.

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Limbaughsaphatkhunt May 24, 2015 at 10:13 pm

I can tell you’re really concerned about black on black violence.

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RogueElephant May 25, 2015 at 7:59 am

It’s only “violence” when it’s white on black. Didn’t you get the memo ???

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euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:20 am

We shouldn’t be worried about white on black crime. Blacks are the majority now, and are in power. It is the black man who is in control of this country. We should be worried about black on white crime…

When the silhouettes of white men hanging from trees are seen in the dawn’s early light, we’ll know then that we were too late.

fc May 25, 2015 at 8:50 am

Blacks and gays are BOTH majorities-on television and in the MSM-despite accounting for 13% and <2% of the population. Your point?

euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:51 am

ceding ground?

fc May 25, 2015 at 8:57 am

No.I just proved that since the media pushes the racist black and gay agenda in our culture today on television/movies while blackmailing businesses with the threat of lawsuits and loss of advertising if they don’t conform-THEY actually have the power..

euwe max May 25, 2015 at 9:14 am

Are you saying that by concentrating on stupid things, you’ve lost?

sandi/flip May 24, 2015 at 10:09 pm

Gang I am gone.I wish all of you the best.Not a conservative left on this blog except ‘Rogue’.Too dirty for me.

bye

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euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:15 am

The corruption of the conservatives means that a lot of the money allocated by the RNC budget for recruitment does not, in fact, go to recruitment, but goes to line the pockets of people in marketing and for politicians in the Republican Party,

there is nothing the Republicans. can do to substitute for the conservative forces’ will to fight.

They need to have a robust strategy. They need more troops on the ground. They need forward air controllers. Do you know that 75-percent of those conservatives return from the internet without having won an argument? That’s because they don’t have somebody on the ground that can identify an issue. They need to have a strategy. There is no strategy.

They drop their weapons on the field of battle, and concede at the first sign of resistance.

They are cowards.

Stand up for what you believe in!

Stand up for the right to discriminate, and oppress minorities.
Stand up for the right to take away the rights of women and gays.
Stand up for open carry without background check in bars and churches.
Stand up for a decaying infrastructure.
Stand up for an even greater income gap.
Stand up for the rich.
Stand up for the vilification of the poor.
Stand up for social darwinism.
Stand up for “personal responsibility”, let grandma’s bills be paid by her family.
Stand up for “charity starts at home” and get it out of government.
Stand up for Christ – let the churches do the job of the government.
Stand up for endless wars that make the world less safe.
Stand up for prejudice in both politics and religion.

Don’t give up the fight… you almost had it won.

https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/proxy/IcjqqlyqJUxUKgU-LxbCYRk1-UbFdDvqqYcVUN9YZrLGRMWmAIk_f_qvHrnMDfqjUkzX40tJLAxDmKue8kVriwYWx5QbllLoZY1m1VXRNm-BtrSA_M65SIIv=w5000-h5000

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fc May 25, 2015 at 8:48 am

You posted this before dumb ass.You that ‘high’ you can’t keep up?

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euwe max May 25, 2015 at 8:52 am

actually, this is the first time this has ever been posted by anyone. :)

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fc May 25, 2015 at 8:52 am

ha…::)

euwe max May 25, 2015 at 9:15 am

See if you can find a copy.

shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 9:47 am

— most, or some, of it was posted here within the last 10 days……

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euwe max May 25, 2015 at 12:09 pm

IT WAS NOT!

shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 2:03 pm

Yes, some of it, but it may have been someone else… and you subconsciously retained parts of that post, and now it’s become part of you…..

euwe max May 25, 2015 at 6:25 pm

actually, you may be remembering the news article that used that phraseology… the lack of the Iraqi will to fight – I adapted it to the lack of sandi, fc, and damned tango’s will to fight.

It was my own concept to do that, and I only wrote it once!

shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 6:47 pm

OK, that’s reasonable — plus the satisfaction that folks do read your posts…

fc May 25, 2015 at 8:47 am

I didn’t this.Some of Zed’s work?

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HD May 24, 2015 at 10:37 pm

Nafeez Ahmed? Medium? hahahahaha! You do know that not everything you read on the interwebs is credible, right?

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idcydm May 25, 2015 at 9:17 am

Memorial Day – it’s not just BBQ & beer! Put aside the day’s clutter, take a moment….

http://worriersanonymous.org/Share/Mansions.htm

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 9:52 am

” take a moment….”
many moments — many days…

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 10:39 am

Toasts from days not too long ago:
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May all mankind make free to enjoy the blessings of liberty,
But never take the liberty to subvert the principles of freedom.
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Here’s to America, free laws and a free church,
From their blessing may plotters be left in the lurch;
Give us pure candidates and a pure ballot box,
And our freedom shall stand as firm as the rocks.
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Long may our flag in triumph wave against the world
combined, And friends a welcome – foes a grave, within our borders find.
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May noise never excite us to battle, or confusion reduce us
to defeat.
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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 12:57 pm

Where is the annual Memorial Day diatribe dishonoring our military, veterans and those who died in the service of our country.
https://www.fitsnews.com/2014/05/26/memorialize/

Imagine the lessons Folks taught scouts on his recent visit to Patriots Point and the Yorktown.

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Martial Arts & Weapons Expert May 25, 2015 at 1:25 pm

You are one sick in the head mother fucker. You better hope you never meet me face to face.

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ummm, May 25, 2015 at 1:42 pm

why is he sick in the head? for reposting an article that Fits wrote, and asking him why he did it basically? I very rarely agree with B.T. but why not vent that rant to the author of last years story, as opposed to the guy reminding this site about it? I think you missed the point by B.T. of what was actually written in your attempt to want to act big and bad so you could anonymously threaten someone.

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BT The Sociopath May 25, 2015 at 1:52 pm

People like Bible Thumper (you), suffering from Antisocial Personality Disorder also tend to suffer from another mental disorder known as Narcissistic Personality Disorder. Such people are often called narcissistic sociopaths or sociopaths with narcissistic traits and such a situation is a dangerous one, as these people do not want to be helped. Such people often tend to be highly manipulative and without any shred of remorse for their actions, even if their actions have harmed others who are close to them or their family members. There is nothing that can stop a narcissistic sociopath from achieving his goals. He makes use of all his charm which is highly superficial and intellect in order to attain his goals by any means possible. Such people (you) often think that they are above all and they do not really care if anyone disagrees with them.

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BT The Sociopath May 25, 2015 at 2:05 pm

THE COMMON SOCIOPATH LIKE BIBLE THUMPER
Sometimes called subcultural delinquents, this is the main species of the largest genus of antisocial personalities and, because of the rising incidence of incompetent parenting, they are increasing in number. They have a weak and unelaborated conscience, are not shamed by much of what would shame you and me. They have a weak future perspective because they have grown up under circumstances in which the future was unpredictable and only the pleasures and pains directly at hand could be relied on. They take pride in rule breaking rather than in rule observance and arc like feral children grown up, gratifying impulses of the moment, disinterested in long-term goals. They arc the natural result of weak parental bonding, weak parental control, and bad parental example. Most commonly they also display the effects of being turned loose in the streets to run with other sociopathic children where they assimilate the atavistic social structure of the street or of the adolescent gang. These individuals are feral creatures, undomesticated predators, stowaways on our communal voyage who have never signed the Social Contract.

BT The Sociopath May 25, 2015 at 2:12 pm

On the key traits of a sociopath like Bible Thumper

They can be very charismatic. They don’t really get nervous. … They tend to fail to conform to social norms. They might come off as a little bit of an independent thinker. Or they might be committing crimes, depending on who they are. They have a facility with lying — well, they lie frequently, obviously to cover up certain aspects of themselves, or things that would indicate that they are a sociopath. Probably the biggest characteristic of a sociopath is their lack of empathy. … They can’t really imagine or feel the emotional worlds of other people. It’s very foreign to them. And they don’t have conscience.

BT The Sociopath May 25, 2015 at 2:14 pm

Narcissism is a necessary component of sociopathy but not all Narcissists are sociopaths. Sociopaths also lack remorse and empathy. Sociopaths lie to manipulate others but I suspect that they also lie to preserve their grandiose sense of themselves. They are adept at rationalizing their behavior so as not to shatter the narcissistic belief that they are more special than others.

Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 2:57 pm

1. I’m sorry.
2. I have deep remorse.
3. I want be helped.
4. I’m ashhamed.
5. I give up attempting to change your mind.
6. I broke the rules. I take no pride in that.
7. My positive parental guidance has taught me better.
8. From now on I will conform to the social norms ( such as they may be) of this website.
9. Your criticism has hurt me emotionally, especially I’m regretful of the emotional impact on you.

take a pill May 25, 2015 at 7:22 pm

what the fuck are you ranting about you dumbfuck?

Grand Is Gone. BT is Next May 25, 2015 at 1:58 pm

You’re a f*&$#@ dumb%$$@#!. There is nothing in that article that DISHONORS any veteran. It does, however, point to those in Washington who use the military for DISHONORABLE acts. Sheeeshus, you are so full of yourself that it flows out that pea brain of yours. All you are looking to do is get a reaction. All you do is condemn, condemn, condemn, and condemn. Yes, you are one fucked up sack of shit. I will find out your real name, chump. I promise you that.

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Greenville News May 25, 2015 at 2:23 pm

Just let it go, dude. Bible Thumper is just another trolling peckerjerk. Likely into smoking meth and/or crack, drinking lots of alcohol. You can never trust a drug addict.

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Greenville News May 25, 2015 at 2:25 pm

What are your talking about? I don’t see anything in that link whereas fitsnews dishonors veterans. Why even make such an allegation from an article written eons ago anyway? Whats your beef?

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 2:30 pm

Fitsnews
“Late last year we reached the conclusion that service in the U.S. Armed Forces had “ceased being admirable … and started being either gullible or intentionally harmful to true American principles.”
Read more at https://www.fitsnews.com/2014/05/26/memorialize/#PTPkYypaGQJBUrg3.99

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Johnny Starr May 25, 2015 at 2:36 pm

Or this:

A big part of that? Shredding the myth of the American soldier … and elevating real heroes.
Read more at https://www.fitsnews.com/2014/05/26/memorialize/#OV0P38EW1yAZJm2I.99

If you clicked on “real heroes” you get Edward Snowden.

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Greenville News May 25, 2015 at 3:01 pm

Nothing there. You are attempting to split hairs and misconstrue the wording. I guess all the post about you being a sociopath are spot on ~~

Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 3:05 pm

No I’m the sociopath. Johnny Star is the Narcissist.

J.P.Cash Jr. May 25, 2015 at 3:14 pm

LQQKs like you got your ass kicked all over this thread.

Greenville News May 25, 2015 at 3:03 pm

Yes, Snowden is a hero. What part of that is do you not comprehend, bible thumper?

J.P.Cash Jr. May 25, 2015 at 3:09 pm

Love the picture on this thread.Is that Fits and Zed holding the ISIS flag with you below them OR Ron and Rand Paul?

Greenville News May 25, 2015 at 3:00 pm

Nothing there. You are attempting to split hairs and misconstrue the wording. I guess all the post about you being a sociopath are spot on ~

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 3:01 pm

Correct, see my responce.

Greenville News May 25, 2015 at 3:02 pm

How many names are you posting under now? 8?9?10????

Smirks May 25, 2015 at 3:17 pm

Your understanding of the basic grammar rules is essential for interpretations of sentences. Besides, there was a poll that reflected what fitsnews reported.

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 3:26 pm

First you say I was incorrect in my understanding, then my misunderstanding reflects public opinion. Ok! I’m wrong but if I’m right I’m still wrong. Excuse the grammar.

Sin City May 25, 2015 at 2:25 pm

Careful.He may trip over the furniture again.Do you bruise easy?

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 2:35 pm

Harsh anonymous comments bruise me.

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Greenville News May 25, 2015 at 3:06 pm

How many fake names has Bible Thumper posted under? Well … at least 5 according to my programs.

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 3:13 pm

A Narcissist has too much of a ego not to take credit for all his remarks. That’s why I only post BT.
But why do you post with Greenville News, BT The Sociopath and make anonymous physical threats “Martial Arts & Weapons Expert”.
You have your own screen name, Will Folks.

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J.P. Cash Jr. May 25, 2015 at 3:24 pm

Do you hear different voices in your head?

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 3:34 pm

When these attacks occur it is always because I criticize Will and they are always from Guest posters. That leads me to the most likely conclusion. You’re Will. Just a reminder. South Carolina’s unemployment data will be released 10:00 an Wednesday. You have a habit of not reporting good news.

GOD BLESS USA May 25, 2015 at 3:36 pm

Propaganda no different than what Joseph Goebbels spewed on the German people during the heyday of the Nazi state.
Read more at https://www.fitsnews.com/2014/05/26/memorialize/#Uc4k5DMD2RbgVm7P.99

This one really bothered me.Comparing our fallen soldiers to Nazi’s?

Bill Tolks May 25, 2015 at 3:38 pm

Why not paraphrase from the writings? Are you too dumb and don’t know how to copy and paste???

SCBlue May 25, 2015 at 3:50 pm

GOOD NEWS FOR OUR ILLEGAL ALIEN COUSINS!!! MORE PAID UNDER THE TABLE LOW WAGE JOBS!!!!! YES! YES! YES!!!!!

HD May 25, 2015 at 4:24 pm

Geezzz! You got your teeth slapped down your throat; but, did you have any to begin with? Nevermind. Don’t answer, though everyone is sure you are itching to react.

Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 4:35 pm

“Teeth slapped!” You’re kidding, right. Some guest post a copy/paste from a Google search of Paranoid Personality Disorder. Doesn’t even challenge my post that was purely informational.
The voices in my head could do a better slap down than that.

BT The Sociopath May 25, 2015 at 4:01 pm

Here the subject “Bible Thumper” – aka “Labrat” – becomes a prey to premature delusion. According to Kraeplein, in this disease the cause of delusion is internal, and no hallucination is involved.

Paranoia a lot of times is a symptom of an underlying condition such as paranoid personality disorder, schizophrenia or delusional disorder, etc. The treatment of Paranoia can include prescribed medicines and some different therapies or a combination of them.

The common feeling experienced by people suffering from Paranoia is that they are being target of persecution by others. Their feeling ranges between hallucinating ideas of being central figures in situations which are far from realiity. These ideas have very little connection to them in real life.

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BT Has Lots Of Loose Screws May 25, 2015 at 4:05 pm

Lastly, and generally speaking, the people who suffer from Paranoid Personality Disorder (like “Bible Thumper” ) do not have trust in other people. They always have a desire or need to become or show high degree of autonomy and self sufficiency. They try to have a sound control over other people surrounding them. Rigid, stubborn, always critical, lowest level of collaboration, are some of the traits of people suffering with Paranoid Personality Disorder.
Signed — I Am Not Will Folks.

Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 4:13 pm

By Will Folks  ||  I got an undergraduate degree in 1997 from The University of South Carolina – double-majoring in history and philosophy.  And before you ask me what I was thinking, I don’t remember.  Seriously … I was drunk or high the whole time.
Read more at https://www.fitsnews.com/2014/08/27/majored/#HmxHp1D8Z0IhuTSc.99

But you did learn to copy and paste. These silly post completely ignore the subject you are replying to and attack me. That is the definition of a troll. You don’t have an argument so attack me personally. Pitiful. ..

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 5:21 pm

My furry faced friend – what in the world are you doing? Why all the attacks? Were you GT? Where did your sense of humor go. It was more appealing and people more willing to listen, unless your goal is to make people dislike you?

You are better than this.

Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 6:00 pm

Rarely does anyone lay in to me like now. It’s only happened about twice before. It always seems to be when I challenge Will. And it’s always guests posting. That’s why I think it’s Will.

I think it might be because I mention his family. But the way I see it laws and politics always effect the family. If he wants to legalize prostitution, why someone else’s daughter? I got skewered for that, but never got a good answer. I believe he reacted to this statement I made earlier in this thread.

Imagine the lessons
Folks taught scouts on his recent visit to Patriots Point and the Yorktown.

I may be trying to get my butt whipped, but I think people should think personally about what they say and consider how it would effect their family or if they would repeat their opinions to their family. How would his statements effect the family of a fallen soldier?

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:12 pm

I’ve been absent for some time, I just see some blood spilled all over the comments and wonder, what the heck happened during my brief absence?

I don’t know anything about the lessons, but one can expect if you challenge Will on this site – you are one, maybe several – down.

I am not opposed to legalizing anything, as long as they are adults. I hope my child never goes down that path, but I also think people do those things out of some emotional or monetary desperation.

I agree that people should think consider how it would effect their families personally, but each person has a different view. In my personal life (me only), I am hardcore pro-life, but that doesn’t give me the right to make decisions for another. I do think about my family. The what ifs. What if my daughter, grand daughter, someone down the road lead a different life, had more difficult choices to make? Would I still feel the same?

Times are changing – they have changed – at least for me. I think they will continue to. That is my opinion.

You shouldn’t worry about getting your butt whipped for your opinions. I am likely the least popular person on any political site ;). Don’t change who you are, but I hope you stay true to self. I remember a time I wasn’t and it caused me pain.

guest May 25, 2015 at 6:35 pm

Thanks Boz SYNTwist…

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:21 pm

A word of advice from garbage to a furry friend – your strong point is intellect, don’t discard it for emotional rants. I’ve read enough of your posts to know your intellect can stand. Many may not get it, but they read it – it speaks volumes. Emotional rants aren’t your strong point. May be unwanted advice and I apologize in advance if it is, but I once had a friend help me when I was grossly out numbered on the opposite side of your debate. So take it with a grain of salt. Just food for thought.

guest May 25, 2015 at 6:23 pm

Grear advice Boz.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:35 pm
guest May 25, 2015 at 6:44 pm

Not a chance.Last time you were mentioned on Fits was with a phone number for cyber hacking and the State of SC.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:49 pm

????

My let’s get it on and you have some game, so bring it on.

guest May 25, 2015 at 6:56 pm

GT has apparently deleted his account and posts are gone.Mande article.Night GT left.I have a nice screen shot-email it to you? ha ha ha

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:56 pm

I hope you read my last comment. If you want to email it and know my email, go for it, but the minute you do, I know who you are.

guest May 25, 2015 at 7:03 pm

I read it.You came on here as SYNTwist…then Garbage…begged Will to toss GT…just asked Will to boot me,HACK.

Shit.You fuckers know who we are anyway.Who you kiddin?

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:12 pm

I don’t know who you are. I never begged anyone to do anything – not my style. If I have to beg, not worth it. You are clearly confused.

I don’t even know who the F you are – so I didn’t ask anyone to boot you.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 5:42 pm

I don’t always agree with BT, but I don’t agree with labels either. When someone says, “I know what you are thinking….” or “how you think” it’s a symptom of dysfunctional thinking in and of itself. We are all individuals, entitled to our own opinions, unreservedly, without labels.

guest May 25, 2015 at 6:18 pm

Thanks Boz.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 4:42 pm

Ouch!

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guest May 25, 2015 at 6:19 pm

Thanks Buz.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 4:41 pm

I just wonder how many fake names you post under. We might agree on some issues, but truth is, most everyone on this site posts under false names. Are you REALLY Greenville News?

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guest May 25, 2015 at 6:19 pm

Thanks Jed.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:29 pm

Thanks GrandTango.

guest May 25, 2015 at 6:33 pm

Thanks SYNTwist.

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Tank B. Crusher May 25, 2015 at 3:25 pm

Support for President Obama among members of the military has fallen drastically in recent years, according to the results of a poll published by the Military Times.

A survey of 2,300 active-duty service members showed that only 15 percent of troops polled in 2014 said they approve of the job Obama is doing as commander in chief. That is down from 2009’s paltry 35 percent approval rating.

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/395212/obama-support-among-military-plummets-15-percent-john-fund

They hate Obama.

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easterndumbfuckistan May 25, 2015 at 4:30 pm

Thanks for renewing my faith in America.

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Tank B. Crusher May 25, 2015 at 3:31 pm

I bet you spent the morning taking American Flags off of veterans grave sites you disgusting enemy of the state.

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Bible Thumper Got Crushed May 25, 2015 at 3:20 pm

America’s All-Volunteer Army: Military and civilians increasingly divided…
http://www.latimes.com/nation/la-na-warrior-main-20150524-story.html#page=1

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Bible Thumper Got Crushed May 25, 2015 at 3:21 pm

The U.S. military today is gradually becoming a separate warrior class, many analysts say, that is becoming increasingly distinct from the public it is charged with protecting.

As the size of the military shrinks, the connections between military personnel and the broad civilian population appear to be growing more distant, the Pew Research Center concluded after a broad 2012 study of both service members and civilians.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 3:27 pm

You hate God and those that serve.Shame on you for disparaging our fallen warriors on this Memorial Day.

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SCBlue May 25, 2015 at 3:48 pm

Greatttttttt information. Thank you!

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 5:11 pm

The military serves our country. If they fail, it is because they have a contract and marching orders they are obligated to follow, implemented by The People, and enforced by our Government.

The connections that Pew “might” make, are based on some algorithm that unlikely factors in human behavior. It’s akin to hiring a body guard and blaming them if they take a bullet meant for you.

Most people who hate the military are damn cowards and faint of heart, who don’t have the courage to do what is necessary. They don’t want to take a bullet, but blame the government, and the military, for everything that goes wrong in their life?

Recommended Reading: “The Art of Living Consciously” by Nathaniel Branden. Instead of tearing others down to make yourself feel better, how about building yourself up, and take responsibility?

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guest May 25, 2015 at 6:20 pm

Thanks buzzman.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:22 pm

You guys are dying to figure out who I am – guess, guess, and keep guessing.

Try dialogue, it’s better and easier.

guest May 25, 2015 at 6:23 pm

Thanks Bozz.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:27 pm

Welcome!

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:28 pm

Are you high or looking for one? Buzzman?

guest May 25, 2015 at 6:32 pm

Don’t threaten me SYNTwist.

Love, Boz

Bible Thumper Got Crushed May 25, 2015 at 3:27 pm

Stop trying to get the attention of the people who dont care about you and try keeping the attention of the people who do, like GrandTango.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 4:59 pm

BT and GT had almost nothing in common except conservative values. GT was unreasonable and not interested in engaging. BT has his own values, but some diplomacy, where GT miserably failed.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 6:22 pm

Thanks William H.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:23 pm

Ha! Not sure who that is, but must be an awesome person. Last time I am responding to you or anyone else regarding my alias.

guest May 25, 2015 at 6:24 pm

Thanks William H. Martin. Ha!

Kennys Frivolous Lawsuit May 25, 2015 at 3:35 pm

Well I could agree with you, but then we’d both be wrong.

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BT The Sociopath May 25, 2015 at 3:53 pm

People like Bible Thumper with obsessive-compulsive personality disorder do not necessarily have the more commonly discussed obsessive-compulsive disorder (OCD), although many individuals think the two conditions are the same. Those with obsessive-compulsive personality disorder (OCPD) generally have an inflexible pattern of thinking, feeling, and behaving, whereas those with obsessive-compulsive disorder have obsessions (recurrent, persistent thoughts) and compulsions (repetitive behaviors).

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 4:01 pm

Oh. But I must convince you that I’m right. I must! Please! Please! Help me.

I don’t want to become like Will Folks. Obsessed with Haley. Never letting even the slightest opportunity to criticize her pass.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 4:57 pm

As someone “borderline” (meaning they can’t diagnose predictably) OCD, there is a huge difference in OCD and OCPD. BT and I don’t often agree, but he isn’t OCPD from where I sit. I’m not sure he even qualifies for OCD, save the number of posts.

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Will Folks is a Patriot May 25, 2015 at 8:13 pm

Save your cheap pocket psychology for the experts at MUSC’s Institute of Psychiatry.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 8:56 pm

I thought the same thing when I read the first comment. Save for the experts of in a field of inexperienced, that allows people like above to label people however they like.

Sounds like you know more about that MUSC Institute of Psychiatry, so I digress.

Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 8:17 pm

You a are ruining my reputation.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 8:18 pm

Are you married? So sexy.

Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 8:23 pm

Whoaa! Tried to trick me with a guest post.

Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 4:38 pm

By the replies I’ve been getting to my comments, I can tell that they really miss Tango.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 4:40 pm

Wow – he’s gone? LOL

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 4:50 pm

It is my opinion there is so much more at stake and due to national security, we will never know the details. We might get some of them after the fact. We elect leaders to do a job. What is their job? To protect America at any cost. That is my opinion. To second guess that would be to assume we know more than they do, nothing but foolish thinking.

I find it most interesting that both a conservative (Bush) and a far left Democrat (Obama) are continuing down the same path heedlessly. This is really a non-partisan issue, neither party has the answer. It’s multiple moves in the great game of global chess. I prefer to be on the winning side.

It is also worth mentioning that while I like Rand Paul, I also like Ron Paul – We are not an island and the isolationist policies do not work. History proves that.

The crux of war is typically religion, some might claim race, but genocide goes back to religion. There is no bartering with terrorist. Rand’s plan doesn’t work. It is idealistic/wishful thinking.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 6:56 pm

Will,

I came back to help you. If you are the guest. It’s easy to solve this problem. I’ll go away. My only desire to help you, is that you have ONE of the only free sites in SC. But I can easily go somewhere else v. putting up with crap on your site.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 6:57 pm

LMAO!!!!Kick me off Will.Shit I know I have made you more money than this bitch.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:17 pm

You probably have guest, but do you give a care about keeping this site going? Or do you just sit on your arse all day and type? I like this site because we have the ability to disagree without being censored so much. So guest – put your money where your mouth is. Help FITS and I’ll be gone, you never have to listen to me rant on again. Awwww….sweetie, I know you’ll miss me, but we all have our limits.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 7:13 pm

Shifty would be upset, SYNTwist.Please stay. My plate is full.
I am gone.GT was right.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:14 pm

(shrug) whatever. Enjoy your dinner.

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 6:58 pm

Ask a kid if no one gets the answers. I’m putting my guesses for which ones of you will get the correct answer–
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1] – How much do pirates pay for their earrings? (BT)
2] – Where do kings keep their armies? (Max)
3] – Do trains have teeth? (GT)

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:10 pm

Dang – I don’t even rank. Hmmmm…. I need something to add to that list. ;)

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 7:22 pm

ok, I gave you one – and you’ll get it because it fits ya” (chuckle)

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:13 pm

You forgot Fast Eddy’s flat tax plan, that would trump BT’s pirate plan -ha!

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 7:59 pm

1) By hook or crook.

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 8:01 pm

” How much do pirates pay for their earrings?”
A buck-an-ear..!!

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 8:02 pm

I’m embarrassed that I laughed at that.

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 8:05 pm

These are the best three I got from a kid’s joke book last week. Silly, but clever – especially since I never heard them before! Maybe somebody will make a kid laugh this week…..

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 8:54 pm

The little piggies went down a slide. The first little piggy shouted, “weeeeee…..” Second little piggy shouted, “weeeeeeeee…..” Third Little Piggy screamed, “raaaaaaadio!”

shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 9:02 pm

I haven’t got it yet, but I’m thinking…..

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 9:04 pm

Tell it to a kid….LOL. It wasn’t that funny to me either, but the kids love it! The last little piggy was so different, instead of weeee…..he wanted the radio I suppose? :)

shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 9:43 pm

‘Do trains have teeth?’

Yes – so they can “choo”….

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here’s a bonus one for you —

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The devout cowboy lost his favorite Bible while he was mending fences out on the range. Three weeks later, a pig walked up to him carrying the Bible in its mouth.

The cowboy couldn’t believe his eyes. He took the precious book out of the pig’s mouth, raised his eyes heavenward and exclaimed, “It’s a miracle!”

“Not really,” said the pig. “Your name is written inside the cover.”

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 10:04 pm

LOLOL

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:28 pm

It seems most people are on this thread. I came back to this site, look for a button, some kind of donate here (assuming that is legal?) to help keep this site alive. There are a number of folks on this site I like, but I certainly did not come back for your abuse. Don’t need it. Don’t want it.

So for those of you who want to be ugly, play your silly games, try to ruin someone’s life. Get over yourself.

I detest the way the Republican party handled last election. I have voted Republican a LONG time, but I witnessed them beat out every libertarian leaning member who was running on a Republican ticket.

Will isn’t always right and we don’t always agree, but I do appreciate what he tries to do with his site – offer an alternative. A place where we can discuss SC politics, even when it gets to the point of ridiculous.

For all those concerned about me and Shifty – never met him/her, never spoken to him/her that I am aware of. I don’t know any Shifty. I do think he is funny and I can guess who he is, but I don’t know. It’s all guesswork here.

Please stop trying to label me. Conversation is most welcome, but stop being jerks. No one likes a jerk. That simple.

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 7:41 pm

Welcome back. You picked a bad day for it though.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:43 pm

You aren’t kidding! Good grief what happened while I was gone a brief period of time?

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 7:51 pm

I’m afraid I started it today, but it wasn’t my intention. I linked fits article from last Memorial Day against the military.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 7:53 pm

What I figured.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:54 pm

I usu try to avoid social media on Memorial Day – always ticks me off the way the soldiers are talked about. Unless someone is a soldier, they have not clue. I am a war vet in early 20’s, no longer active, but I know what it is …..

Today should be a day of recognition for those who currently serve, those who died for our freedom – instead it is a day to bash all active duty. My tongue is bleeding, as is my heart. Just really sad and mean.

guest May 25, 2015 at 8:00 pm

Horseshit.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 9:07 pm

You obviously know more about this topic of “Horseshit” than I do. I know a little about bovine feces, but I digress, you win.

shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 7:51 pm

The world kept spinning and herked and jerked along just like the time my 14 year old daughter wanted me to teach her how to drive a straight-stick “Just in case, Dad”). (my poor sports car!)

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guest May 25, 2015 at 7:48 pm

And there you go again.Whine all day about Will and then with open arms welcome back SYNTwist/Garbage aka Boz “I never want to lose contact with you again”.

What kinda scam are you playin?

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:49 pm

You really don’t have a clue guest. You are throwing farts in the wind.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 8:22 pm

Clue about what?That Fits is Thumper?Brilliant.Look at the ‘clicks’ today.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 9:06 pm

Yes and I am Boz, Buzz, among many other names. Again – farts in the wind.

Will Folks is a Patriot May 25, 2015 at 8:08 pm

You are nothing but a big cry baby in depends. Go the fuck away. In fact, go hang out with your buddy “GrandTango.” Everybody here has pegged you for your ugly self. You are the spawn of satan himself.

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Bible Thumper May 25, 2015 at 8:13 pm

I’m crying now. You’re a big bad anonymous meany. Look at the bunny. It’ll make you smile.

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Will Folks is a Patriot May 25, 2015 at 8:15 pm

pfft! Go hide under your mommy’s skirt, little boy.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 8:16 pm

I love you.I am a drunk wino.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 9:08 pm

nice try …. but I do have disqus, someone can click on your fake alias and know we aren’t the same. No hover. :( So sorry.

If at first you don’t succeed, try, try and try again.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 9:21 pm

Not true.My account was hacked.You are lying.I am Garbage.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 9:26 pm

Ha! Everyone knows. Keep trying. On your best day, you still aren’t Garbage ;)

Guest #2 May 25, 2015 at 9:39 pm

Jean Toal is your drinking partner?

shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 7:44 pm

Well, gee, thanks for the compliment so here’s some tidbits about me. Adult male/ professional background in several areas/ several children and grandchildren/ family roots in Alabama, Mississippi, Louisiana, Tennessee, Georgia, and South Carolina (where I planted my butt after my Navy tour/ variety of interests/ love jokes and humor/ sometimes sarcastic/ follow Fitsnews for information and fun, and where I get educated on some areas of interest to me/ and I don’t have a clue about any of you fella’s or gals.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:48 pm

LMAO – Exactly! You and I joke on this site so everyone makes the assumption we KNOW each other in some way. If we do, it is one sided. You do seem very familiar to me, but might have to do with the love of jokes and humor, being in the Navy, having lived in similar places and so on. I don’t know you from John, except on this site.

We try to laugh and joke, and honestly that is one of the highlights of this site – the ability to interact without hate.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 7:51 pm

This site is all about hate.Destroying people-public officials and their families. Mocking Christianity and Christians.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:55 pm

You are doing a great job of that all by yourself, why not build your own site? Oh – I forgot you did and it failed.

SYNTwist May 25, 2015 at 8:12 pm

I did? Built my own ‘site’? No, I post as Garbage now.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 8:52 pm

Haha!

Guest #2 May 25, 2015 at 9:21 pm

Funny. There are many good natured positive articles. But sometimes people tend to focus exclusively on the bad. SC is a cesspool of corruption. If nobody reported on the skanks, would you be pleased then?

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 9:25 pm

That is exactly why I like this site, because it does report on the cesspool of corruption.

Guest #2 May 25, 2015 at 9:33 pm

Me too. It takes balls to write what sic does. At least he can back up everything. Boy did he make Public Servant Kenny Bingham angry lol. So that alone give insight as to lurking spies on this website who never post squat.

guest May 25, 2015 at 9:41 pm

spies? damn if you post on Fits and disagree with his liberal agenda or Ron/Rand Paul, you are a spy?

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 10:09 pm

It takes balls to even click on that, but be it what it may. I detest bullies. Yes, we all have our differences in opinions, but that doesn’t mean someone needs to try to destroy another’s life.

FITS will figure out who his real friends are, when this is over. Question is, does he value friends. Hmmmm.

I prefer not to see the smut, but more of a focus on politics, however, that is my opinion, and I can view only what I want to see with a simple click.

guest May 25, 2015 at 9:38 pm

Who is corrupt?

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 10:04 pm

name a name ….

guest May 25, 2015 at 7:49 pm

You are always a gentleman.You apparently just picked the wrong lady on Fits.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 7:50 pm

Is that why you called him out by name? Assuming there was something there? or are you just “another” guest?

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 7:58 pm

PS: “Shifty” is used because only Nikki Haley would have a clue why I used it here. It was to draw her attention but either she ignored it or more likely doesn’t want to be reminded about it. It goes back to her Clemson days.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 7:59 pm

This site is BUILT around ruining ‘someone’s life’. That is okay.Just love exposing a hypocrite like yourself that pretends like that bothers you.

Long as someone hates and mocks Christ,loves abortion and perverted marriage, you are cool.

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Will Folks is a Patriot May 25, 2015 at 8:06 pm

You are a joke. Get a life!!!!

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 8:52 pm

The Moral Landscape by Sam Harris: ….”This rupture in our thinking has different consequences at each end of the political spectrum: religious conservatives tend to believe that there are right answers to questions of meaning and morality, but only because the God of Abraham deems so. They concede that ordinary facts can be discovered through rational inquiry, but they believe that values must come from a voice in a whirlwind. scriptural literalism, intolerance of diversity, mistrust of science, disregard for the real causes of human and animal suffering —too often, this is how the division between facts and values expresses itself on the religious right.

Secular liberals, on the other hand, tend to imagine that no objective answers to moral questions exist. While John Stuart Mill might conform to our cultural ideal of goodness better than Osama Bin Laden does, most secularists suspect that Mill’s ideas about right and wrong reach no closer to the Truth. Multiculturalism, moral relativism, political correctness, tolerance even of intolerance — these are familiar consequences of separating facts and values on the left.

It should concern us that these two orientations are not equally empowering. Increasingly, secular democracies are left supine before the unreasoning zeal of old-time religion. The juxtaposition of conservative dogmatism and liberal doubt accounts for the decade that has been lost in the United States to a band on federal funding for embryonic stem-cell research; it explains the years of political distraction we have suffered, and will continue to suffer, over issues like abortion and gay marriage; it lies at the bottom of current efforts to pass anti-blasphemy laws at the United Nations (which would make it illegal for the citizens of member states to criticize religion); it has hobbled the West in its generational war against radical Islam; and it ay yet refashion the societies of Europe into a new Caliphate. Knowing what the Creator of the Universe believes about right and wrong inspires religions conservatives to enforce this vision in the public sphere at almost any cost; not knowing what is right–or that anything can ever be truly right — often leads secular liberals to surrender their intellectual standards and political freedoms with both hands.

Food for thought….

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FastEddy23 May 25, 2015 at 8:13 pm

Air Force thumping the drum for faster, higher flying more expensive jets today on FoxSnooze. … All but totally useless in a gorilla ground war.

Close ground support is what’s needed, even if US GI’s are not flying them. Heck, SPADs dropping long fused grenades would be good.

(Yes, gorilla is the proper spelling in this case.)

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 9:24 pm

I never really respected the Air Force in my younger years. I was Navy, Marine were a branch of Navy (a running joke how they were inferior due lack of pioneering). Then there is Army and the joke was Air Force ( another running joke, they were a branch of Army). Then we had Desert Storm. Huge casualties expected. I was in the barracks in Dhahran just a week or so before a scud missile hit it. I personally saw the Air Force intercept missiles, one exploded at ground level. We had no real idea what kind of nuclear weapon it might contain. We did not know their capabilities, we knew what Saddam was capable of – he used Mustard Gas on his own troops (look it up – horrible way to die).

While I am Navy, met with Generals and even King Fahd – the Navy General believed we should have conducted an amphibious assault – the would have been a HORRIBLE move in hindsight.

We won, due to air superiority – the Air Force rocked! You don’t appreciate them nearly as much when sleeping in your comfy beds as you do when you see them shoot down a missile within eye sight. Military is one big team, their goal is to secure the future. Sure, many join for reasons of escape, immature and most (in my experience) because they believe in American causes.

Active duty soldiers are your best friend and ally. They keep watch while we sleep. I salute every single one of them with American Pride. Thank you.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 9:30 pm

Oh my! Bottle #?

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 10:05 pm

I limit mine to 2 or 3 glasses, but a bottle will suffice. How many bottles have you had friend? Oh my!

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 11:17 pm

—- way to go!

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 11:29 pm

I’m going to give two good ones to copy/paste and read later because they are long

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To LtCol Ventura,

Sir, I am DJ Baker and I would appreciate it if you could tell me what it takes to be an F-16 fighter pilot of the USAF. What classes should I take in high school to help the career I want to take later in my life. What could I do to get in the academy.

Sincerely, DJ Baker

—–End of Original Message—–

Subject: FW: Anybody want to help this poor kid from Cyberspace?

From: Lt Col Ventura

Dear DJ,

Obviously, through no fault of your own, your young, impressionable brain has been poisoned by the superfluous, hyped-up, “Top Gun” media portrayal of fighter pilots. Unfortunately, this portrayal could not be further from the
truth. In my experience, I’ve found most fighter pilots pompous, back-stabbing, momma’s boys with inferiority complexes, as well as being extremely over-rated
aeronautically. However, rather than dash your budding dreams of becoming a USAF pilot, I offer the following alternative.

What you REALLY want to aspire to is the exciting, challenging, and rewarding world of TACTICAL AIRLIFT.

And this, young DJ, means one thing – the venerable, workhorse C-130! I can guarantee no fighter pilot can brag that he has led a 12-ship formation down a valley at 300 ft above the ground, while trying to interpret a 9-line to a new DZ, avoiding pop-up threats, and coordinating with
AWACS, all while eating a box lunch, with the engineer in the back taking a piss and the navigator puking in his trash can!

I tell you, DJ, TAC Airlift is where it’s at. Where else is it legal to throw tanks, HMMWVs, and other crap out the back of an airplane, and not even worry about it when the chute doesn’t open and it torpedos the General’s staff car! No where else can you land on a 3,000′ dirt strip, kick a bunch of ammo
and stuff off the ramp without even stopping, then take off again before range control can call to tell you you’ve landed on the wrong LZ!

And talk about exotic travel-when C-130s go somewhere, they GO somewhere (usually for 3 months, unfortunately). This gives you the opportunity to immerse yourself in the culture enough to give any local population a bad taste
in their mouths, not something those strat-lift pilots can do from their airport hotel rooms!

As far as recommendations for your course of study, I offer these. Take a lot of math courses. You will need all the advanced math skills you can muster to facilitate the calculation of per diem rates around the world, and
when trying to split up the crew’s bar tab so that the co-pilot really believes he owes 85% of the whole thing.

Health sciences are important, too. You will need a thorough knowledge of biology to make those educated guesses of how much longer you can drink beer before the tremendous case of the shits catches up to you from that meal you
ate at that place that had the belly dancers in some God-forsaken foreign country whose name you can’t even pronounce!

Social studies are also beneficial. It is important for a good TAC Airlifter to have the cultural knowledge to be able to ascertain the exact location of the nearest titty bar in any country in the world, then be able to convince the
local authorities to release the loadmaster after he offends every sensibility of the local religion and culture.

A foreign language is helpful, but not required. You will never be able to pronounce the names of the NAVAIDs in France, and it’s much easier to ignore them and go where you want to anyway.

A study of geography is also paramount. You will need to know the basic location of all the places you’ve been when you get back from your TDY and are ready to stick those little pins in that huge world map you’ve got taped to your
living room wall, right next to that gigantic wooden giraffe statue and beer stein collection.

Well, DJ, I hope this little note inspires you. And by the way, forget about that Academy thing. All TAC Airlifters know that there are waaay too few women and too little alcohol there to provide a well-balanced education.

A nice, big state college would be a much better choice.

Good luck and see you on the SKE scope!

Maj. Lowenfast

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 11:32 pm

Thank you! I’ll read them first thing tomorrow – falling asleep at keys. Well, fighting sleep like I might miss something? ;)

Here is a link one of my favs:

https://www.pbs.org/civilwar/war/ballou_letter.html

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shifty henry May 25, 2015 at 11:38 pm

Thanks — here’s #2 (also long, but great)

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Now this message for America’s most famous athletes: Someday you may be invited to fly in the backseat of one of your country’s most powerful fighter jets. Many of you already have-John Elway, John Stockton, Tiger Woods to name a few. If you get this opportunity, let me urge you, with the greatest
sincerity….Move to Guam. Change your name. Fake your own death. Whatever you do, do not go. I know. The U.S. Navy invited me to try it.

I was thrilled. I was pumped. I was toast! I should’ve known when they told me my pilot would be Chip (Biff) King of Fighter Squadron 213 at Naval Air Station Oceana in Virginia Beach. Whatever you’re thinking a Top Gun named Chip (Biff) King looks like, triple it. He’s about six-foot, tan, ice-blue eyes, wavy
surfer hair, finger-crippling handshake-the kind of man who wrestles dyspeptic alligators in his leisure time. If you see this man, run the other way. Fast. Biff King was born to fly. His father, Jack King, was for years the voice of NASA missions. (“T-minus 15 seconds and counting….” Remember?) Chip would charge neighborhood kids a quarter each to hear his dad. Jack would wake up from naps surrounded by nine-year-olds waiting for him to say, “We have a liftoff.”

Biff was to fly me in an F-14D Tomcat, a ridiculously powerful $60 million weapon with nearly as much thrust as weight, not unlike Colin Montgomerie. I was worried about getting airsick, so the night before the
flight I asked Biff if there was something I should eat the next morning. “Bananas,” he said. “For the potassium?” I asked. “No,” Biff said, “because they taste about the same coming up as they do going down.”

The next morning, out on the tarmac, I had on my flight suit with my name sewn over the left breast. (No call sign-like Crash or Sticky or Leadfoot — but, still, very cool.) I carried my helmet in the crook of my arm, as Biff had instructed. If ever in my life I had a chance to nail Nicole Kidman, that was it.

A fighter pilot named Psycho gave me a safety briefing and then fastened me into my ejection seat, which, when employed, would “egress” me out of the plane at such a velocity that I would be immediately knocked unconscious. Just as I was thinking about
aborting the flight, the canopy closed over me, and Biff gave the ground crew a thumbs-up. In minutes we were firing nose up at 600 mph. We leveled out and
then canopy-rolled over another F-14.

Those 20 minutes were the rush of my life. Unfortunately, the ride lasted 80. It was like being on the roller coaster at Six Flags Over Hell. Only without
rails. We did barrel rolls, sap rolls, loops, yanks and banks. We dived, rose and dived again, sometimes with a vertical velocity of 10,000 feet per minute.
We chased another F-14, and it chased us. We broke the speed of sound. Sea was sky and sky was sea. Flying at 200 feet we did 90-degree turns at 550 mph,
creating a G-force of 6.5, which is to say I felt as if 6.5 times my body weight was smashing against me, thereby approximating life as Mrs. Colin Montgomerie. And I egressed the bananas. I egressed the pizza from the night before.

And the lunch before that. I egressed a box of Milk Duds from the sixth grade. I made Linda Blair
look polite. Because of the G’s, I was egressing stuff that did not even want to be egressed. I went through not one airsick bag, but two. Biff said I passed
out. Twice. I was coated in sweat. At one point, as we were coming in upside down in a banked curve on a mock bombing target and the G’s were flattening me
like a tortilla and I was in and out of consciousness, I realized I was the first person in history to throw down.

I used to know cool. Cool was Elway throwing a touchdown pass, or Norman making a five-iron bite. But now I really know cool. Cool is guys like Biff, men with cast-iron stomachs and Freon nerves.

I wouldn’t go up there again for Derek Jeter’s black book, but I’m glad Biff does every day, and for less a year than a rookie reliever makes in a home
stand. A week later, when the spins finally stopped, Biff called. He said he and the fighters had the perfect call sign for me. Said he’d send it on a patch for my flight suit. What is it? I asked. “Two Bags.” Don’t you dare tell Nicole.

shifty henry May 26, 2015 at 8:44 am

thanks – copied and saved

Garbage May 26, 2015 at 11:30 am

LOL – can relate to the C-130 cargo plan, a 23-25 hour ride in a jump seat is anything but joy. Luckily I was exhausted from days of sirens going off in the middle of the night, scuds launched, the smell of oil burning and hazy days of smoke filled skies. I slept the entire ride, save a brief layover in England, where we had decent food for the first time in months.

To make matters worse, Saudi is a dry country – alcohol is illegal. In the blistering heat we, particularly women, had to wear full gear, sleeves to the wrist, head always covered with a hat. As if the sweat from the heat/clothing wasn’t enough, donning our gas mask was a daily occurrence. Often several times a day and night.

I should have taken more building classes, I didn’t realize as a paper pusher I would be installing ventilation, building barricades out of sand bags and help build a hospital that was delivered in crates. My computer experience came in helpful, I created the compound databases using Enable. Geography would have helped on the trip over, I thought our layover was Frankford, Germany, but later realized it was Frankfurt. I should have taken nursing classes, I didn’t realize as a paper pusher I might be part of a triage should it come to that and I have a tendency to faint when people are in pain.

Yes, the pay stinks, as a young reservist, I was losing money every day. I fulfilled my contract and respectfully requested a transfer to inactive duty status.

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shifty henry May 26, 2015 at 11:59 am

Great story and you learned to do a lot of different things. Glad you made it back…..

Guest #2 May 25, 2015 at 9:22 pm

I guess Will took a break today. Was school out?

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guest May 25, 2015 at 9:25 pm

LMAO!!! Great day on Fits.Hilarious.Better than school.

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Guest #2 May 25, 2015 at 9:29 pm

hmmm. I am scanning comments now. Looks like a bunch of attacks back and forth. I guess grand tango is back.

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guest May 25, 2015 at 9:33 pm

Apparently not.Fits says he is GT and Bible Thumper? Carry on.
I figured GT,not Bible Thumper. LMAO!!!

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Guest #2 May 25, 2015 at 9:38 pm

omg! really??? Well, if Fits is he is pretty good at disguising his writing style. But on GrandTango’s disqus profile, doesn’t he post the link to his own blog? Thumper I don’t know about, just that he seems to have a vendetta of sorts against Fits.

guest May 25, 2015 at 9:42 pm

Hilarious.Thanks Garbage.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 10:03 pm

WTF? How did I get mixed in on this conversation? I have nothing to do with GT or BT or any T. I am a site contributor. guess you “guests” always need a target. Sorry, I won’t be your victim.

guest May 25, 2015 at 10:24 pm

Oh fuck.Quit playin that victim shit.You want to accuse public/private people or agencies of falsehoods and felonious behavior, ya got to ‘pay the piper’.No freebies in life.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 10:30 pm

No idea what you are talking about. I could care less what private agencies do unless it affects me personally (i.e. I don’t want to pay for anything that crosses my heart). Public, very similar, but ripe for corruption. For good reason – who would want that job? Pay stinks, your entire life if public, daily questions and opinions on how to solve the worlds problems.

I much prefer private sector. Those who play politics are “mostly” in my opinion, disingenuous. Who would want that job? The people I have known who are/were in those jobs, equally detested their position, but loved power.

It is, what it is. Come on GT. You can do better than that? If FITS truly blocked you, your IP address would be blocked. Are you in someone else’s basement? Not sure how much I missed during my absence.

guest May 25, 2015 at 9:49 pm

Grand Tango still has a ‘disqus profile’? That website was apparently used by Fits to gain information on contributors during the last midterm elections. Just my opinion.

Guest #2 May 25, 2015 at 10:09 pm

Senior NATO Official: “We’ll Probably be at War This Summer” “If we’re lucky it won’t be nuclear.” Give thanks to hate filled war monger Senator Lindsey Graham. He must be so excited that he wet his pants each day.

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Garbage May 25, 2015 at 10:14 pm

NATO, certainly has their role, but Congress seems to hold the power in a REAL war. Yes POTUS at the top of hierarchy, but cannot do anything without approval. Look back at WWII and FDR, why did he have secret meetings?

A lowly Senator? While I might disagree with Graham, he doesn’t have the power to push us into war.

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euwe max May 26, 2015 at 8:56 am

he doesn’t have the power to push us into war.

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no, it’s a combination of hawk voices, amplified by Faux news, and abetted by CIA infused news articles, and videos seeded in the MSM.

Glorify our soldiers, and throw in a lot of “fighting for our freedoms” to indirectly give fighting without an imminent threat credence.

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sparklecity May 25, 2015 at 10:54 pm

It’s a fucking mess plain and simple – no matter how you cut it

Been that way since a little before WWI, went full tilt-boogie during the “great game” and has been on turbo-charger ever since.

If you haven’t been over there you don’t have a clue and anyone’s opinions/musings don’t count for shit…………

Be that the “man on the street” or US Senators or Congressmen/women

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FastEddy23 May 26, 2015 at 1:11 pm

Garbage:

“I never really respected the Air Force in my younger years. I was Navy, Marine were a branch of Navy (a running joke how they were inferior due lack of pioneering). Then there is Army and the joke was Air Force ( another running joke, they were a branch of Army). Then we had Desert Storm. Huge casualties expected. I was in the barracks in Dhahran just a week or so before a scud missile hit it. I personally saw the Air Force intercept missiles, one exploded at ground level. We had no real idea what kind of nuclear weapon it might contain. We did not know their capabilities, we knew what Saddam was capable of – he used Mustard Gas on his own troops (look it up – horrible way to die).

While I am Navy, met with Generals and even King Fahd – the Navy General believed we should have conducted an amphibious assault – the would have been a HORRIBLE move in hindsight.

We won, due to air superiority – the Air Force rocked! You don’t appreciate them nearly as much when sleeping in your comfy beds as you do when you see them shoot down a missile within eye sight. Military is one big team, their goal is to secure the future. Sure, many join for reasons of escape, immature and most (in my experience) because they believe in American causes.

Active duty soldiers are your best friend and ally. They keep watch while we sleep. I salute every single one of them with American Pride. Thank you.”

“… we knew what Saddam was capable of – he used Mustard Gas on his own troops …”

What? WMDs?

“… We won, due to air superiority – the Air Force rocked! …”

Agreed! Absolutely! One might note that the fastest jet fighters were not used except to down those missiles.

For close ground support? Please clarify since you were there.

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