Duggar Drama Rocks America

REALITY TELEVISION FAMILY EMBROILED IN MOLESTATION SCANDAL … || By FITSNEWS || The bombshell revelation that Josh Duggar – the eldest son of America’s most famous large family – molested five minor children (four of whom were allegedly his sisters) as a young teenager has taken the country by storm.  It’s…


|| By FITSNEWS || The bombshell revelation that Josh Duggar – the eldest son of America’s most famous large family – molested five minor children (four of whom were allegedly his sisters) as a young teenager has taken the country by storm.  It’s also exposed deep social rifts in our nation – and could even play a role in determining our next president.

Seriously … it’s that big a deal.

Before we get into all that, though, let’s first look at the facts of the case.

Duggar – a cast member of TLC’s wildly successful reality television show 19 Kids and Counting – is the eldest son of Jim Bob Duggar and Michelle Duggar, devout independent Baptists who don’t use birth control and who have raised their children in a strict, socially conservative environment.

He’s 27 years old – and is married with three children of his own (with a fourth child due in July).

Duggar’s past was exposed this week by In Touch Magazine. Using the Freedom of Information Act (FOIA), the magazine obtained copies of a December 2006 Springdale, Arkansas police report detailing the graphic allegations.

According to the report, Jim Bob Duggar first learned of his son’s inappropriate conduct in early 2002 – when one of Josh’s victims revealed he had touched her breasts and genitals.  He was fourteen years old at the time.  In July of 2002 Josh admitted to molesting another victim amid additional allegations – but his father chose to handle the situation “in-house.”

In March 2003, Jim Bob was informed of multiple additional instances of alleged molestation.  This time he took action, discussing Josh’s situation with elders at the family’s church and telling them his son would be sent to a “Christian” program consisting of “hard physical work and counseling” for a period of three months ending in July 2003.

The Duggars weren’t completely truthful about their son’s “treatment,” though, with Michelle Duggar later admitting to police that Josh never went to counseling but was instead sent to stay with “a family friend who was in the home remodeling business” in nearly Little Rock, Arkansas.

When Josh returned, Jim Bob and the church elders made him confess his actions to an Arkansas State Trooper named Jim Hutchens – a friend of the family.  Hutchens took no action.  Of interest?  Hutchens is currently serving a 56-year sentence in an Arkansas prison on child pornography charges.

Yeah …

So – if all of this went down in 2002-03, why did it take until 2006 for a formal police investigation to be opened?  After all, by then the Duggars had already appeared on their first Discovery Health feature – 14 Children and Pregnant Again! – and were well on their way to becoming reality television superstars.

According to the In Touch report, the investigation began around the time the family was scheduled to make an appearance on the Oprah Winfrey Show.  Prior to their appearance, an as-yet-unidentified 61-year-old woman sent Harpo Studios – Winfrey’s production company – an email alerting producers to the molestation allegations.

“The parents have been hiding this secret for a long time,” the tipster wrote.

Upon receiving the tip, Winfrey cancelled the Duggars’ appearance – and sent the information along to local authorities.

When the investigation began, Jim Bob Duggar refused to make Josh available for police questioning.  Ultimately the investigation produced no criminal charges because the statute of limitations (then set at three years) had expired.  As the probe was ongoing, several additional Duggar specials aired on Discovery Health – including 16 Children and Moving In, in which the family moved into a 7000-square foot house partially subsidized by the television network.

Two years later, their reality show debuted as 17 Kids and Counting.  The program is now in its tenth season and has dominated reality TV ratings – including a whopping 4.4 million viewers who tuned into a special wedding episode last fall.

Josh Duggar has acknowledged – in general terms – his sordid past.

“Twelve years ago, as a young teenager I acted inexcusably for which I am extremely sorry and deeply regret. I hurt others, including my family and close friends,” he said in a statement provided exclusively to People magazine. “I confessed this to my parents who took several steps to help me address the situation. We spoke with the authorities where I confessed my wrongdoing, and my parents arranged for me and those affected by my actions to receive counseling. I understood that if I continued down this wrong road that I would end up ruining my life.”

In addition to his acknowledgment, Duggar also resigned his position with the socially conservative Washington, D.C. Family Research Council.

Meanwhile his parents – in a joint statement – have also addressed the scandal.

“When Josh was a young teenager, he made some very bad mistakes, and we were shocked,” they said.  “We had tried to teach him right from wrong. That dark and difficult time caused us to seek God like never before.”

TLC – which was in the midst of running a Duggar marathon – has yanked the show from its lineup.  Its future remains uncertain.

Meanwhile “Republican” presidential candidate Mike Huckabee – who hails from Arkansas and whose White House ambitions have twice been endorsed by the Duggars – lend his support to the family.

“Josh’s actions when he was an underage teen are as he described them himself, ‘inexcusable,’ but that doesn’t mean ‘unforgivable,'” Huckabee said.  “He and his family dealt with it and were honest and open about it with the victims and the authorities.”

Huckabee also attacked the media for investigating – and reporting on – the scandal.

“Those who have enjoyed revealing this long ago sins in order to discredit the Duggar family have actually revealed their own insensitive bloodthirst, for there was no consideration of the fact that the victims wanted this to be left in the past and ultimately a judge had the information on file destroyed – not to protect Josh, but the innocent victims,” he said.

Our thoughts on all this?

First, it seems abundantly clear at this point the Duggar family engaged in a (successful) effort to keep this scandal under wraps as their reality fame grew.  Second, it seems highly unlikely the Discovery family of networks didn’t know about the scandal.  Third, we’re shocked the scandal took this long to break seeing how many people apparently knew about it.

Most importantly, the scandal is already being used to further divide our increasingly polarized culture.  Christians, large families and homeschoolers will be vilified (and viewed with renewed suspicion) through no fault of their own, while members of the media will be attacked for simply doing their jobs.

Both rushes to judgment are wrong …

No one should rejoice in the Duggars misfortune.  Nor should anyone fall for the ridiculous “blame the media” spin put forth by Huckabee.

As for us?  We were initially inclined to feel sympathy for the Duggers, viewing the scandal as a private family problem which they addressed internally – including notifying the appropriate law enforcement authorities.  However as we delved into the details of the case, it became clear to us they were less than forthright about what happened – and less than forthcoming with the appropriate law enforcement agencies.

Having tasted reality stardom – which was subsidizing their new home and new life – it seems as though they rolled the dice in the hopes the truth would never see the light of day.  The only question is whether the network went along for the ride …


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Tazmaniac May 23, 2015 at 10:15 am

Mental note, buy popcorn for when I read the comments on this article later. A pedophile using the camoflauge of religion to conceal sexual deviantcy? Never heard of before.

Daniel Boome May 23, 2015 at 12:03 pm

Except that in this case it was a barely pubescent 14 year old boy whose only “religion” was going along with his parents leading.

Victorious Secret May 23, 2015 at 1:14 pm

And your point is….?

William Kamm, Warren Jeffs, Wayne Knight, Bruno Meyer, Catholic Priests ad nauseam, Theodore Rinaldo, Baruch Lanner, blah blah blah . . . and so on.

Does it matter who is involved in covering this up when the act–by itself–is the fault at issue?

I believe Taz’s point is that this isn’t the first rodeo for this type of story.

Daniel Boome May 23, 2015 at 1:27 pm

It was stated that it was a “pedophile using the camouflage of religion to conceal sexual deviancy”. That was my point of contention, because I’m not seeing that in this case. Where exactly did the Duggars’ use “religion” to cover up anything? I’m not seeing it. In fact, I’m not really seeing any sort of huge cover up at all. It’s more of trying to manage PR, which is a damned if you do and damned if you don’t game. You want to contain as much as possibly to keep from being unfairly tarred and feathered in the court of public opinion, because this is certainly the type of story that their detractors would love nothing more to feast on and relentlessly beat them over the head for. At the same time, there is certainly a need for honesty and a real attempt to make amends with victims. That’s a tough road to walk and there’s not a perfect answer as to which way to go. Bottom line, though, is I don’t see anywhere that they used their faith to cover up anything or pretend that they were above having to deal with it.

Victorious Secret May 23, 2015 at 2:55 pm

I see your initial point now. However, I think that anytime a family holds it self out as “religious,” then it’s certainly likely the general public will scrutinize that family’s behavior against the very same backdrop.

Additionally, it would appear that one could infer that they “covered up” the behavior by the following:

“This time he took action, discussing Josh’s situation with elders at the family’s church and telling them his son would be sent to a “Christian” program consisting of “hard physical work and counseling” for a period of three months ending in July 2003.”

Again, can you distinguish this particular scenario from others? Of course. However, one can just as easily see the analogous features of misbehavior among the religious. Is this fair? Likely not so…rather; the exposing of insecurities among the masses (i.e. glass houses, but those throwing the bricks argue, “I never claimed my house was made of glass.”)

Zed May 23, 2015 at 3:14 pm

There’s also the fact that the only “counselling” the kid actually got was by a guy who became a registered sex offender himself.


I haven’t Googled it, but I’d be willing to bet that the Duggars and that bullshit family counsel group gave Lena Dunham pure hell for talking about “playing doctor” with a younger sister.

At every level the blatant hypocrisy and arrogance of these people in their “faith” and “moral superiority” makes me want to puke my guts out.

Dr. Mark Bear June 1, 2015 at 5:53 am

Okay, I really do not know or understand how to make this clearer: The parents when discussing the matter, relaying it to the media, due to their finally realizing this was coming out, called it “a mistake.” Then they went on to describe the manner in which they dealt with this spiritually. If THAT is not using religion; I sincerely do not know what is!

The “cover up” occurs due to Jim Bob and Michelle waiting an entire year to go to someone, ANYONE, to assist them with this matter. Had they gone to the Church immediately, while I still would remain highly uncomfortable with the manner in which it was handled, I would have at least been able to say they tried in their own way. But waiting just makes this entire thing worse. Why might they have waited?

While I am out on a limb here, and publicly admit so, one hypothesis is as follows: You will recall that the Discovery Channel aired their 14 Kids and Pregnant special following up with two more specials. They still did not have the contract secured for 19 Kids and Counting, as that was over one year away. You will also recall that the Discovery Channel was providing them their new home, which the network paid the Duggars over $200,000 to build. The only thing paid for by the Duggars at that time, was the kitchen appliances, according to many sources. This is precisely “why” I find it nearly impossible to categorize this a public relations issue, and more like a cover-up, IF the hypothesis is true. However, be assured of one thing: perception IS reality, and this is the perception which was created precisely by the manner in which they handled the entire debacle. Personally, as a man, I cannot fathom being put in this position, however I also do not understand how Jim Bob simply allowed Josh to remain in that house, when his daughters still were present? This leads to me next point about the above hypothesis.

At any point during this issue, the parents “could” have contacted the authorities, and in fact, they believe they did, by going to the Elder Board of their church. BUT: The Elder Board instructed JB to get Josh into a program of rehabilitation and JB refused. His reason? If Josh were to go into “that” program, “he would come out just like ‘them.'” That word them has had me bothered since the story has broken because it implies he believes at that moment that Josh is NOT like them, but different. How we might ask? Perhaps because he is “born-again,” or a “Christian?” While you, nor I know the exact reason he ended up sending the kid to a “family friend” who remodels homes. That man just so happens to be affiliated with none other than Bill Gothard, the very man accused of molesting over 34 girls, only to have to step down from his position. Tell me: Why would JB choose this program over the rehabilitative program? Using religion to fix a psychiatric problem comes to mind, but once again, it implies a cover-up because they keep the information disseminated only to those who are “family friends.”

Even when Josh returns from his “counseling” with that family friend (which I might add the counseling actually blames the victims for not being modest enough), he is taken to yet another family friend, “a state trooper” who gives a “stern talking to,” to Josh. Please note: THIS man was a “mandated reporter,” and according to his current statements, “Jim Bob and Michelle downplayed the entire incident or he would have.” Honestly? We can’t trust this guy, because he was later indicted for possession of child pornography and subsequently sentenced to 56 years in prison.

The question which begs an answer is this: Why was Josh taken to “this” person. I am quite sure, or at least I hope the child porn issue was not known to JB or then we really have to wonder why he took Josh to HIM of all people. No! The better “assumption” is that he was taken to this man, due to him being a family friend. Once again; cover-up!

Much is admittedly unknown about this incident, but one thing we all do know, thanks to the final police report, is that it seems at every turn, when they had the clear choice of getting Josh the help he needed through legitimate means, AND BY GOSH, the victims, JB and Michelle’s own daughters the counseling they NEED, they failed!

Finally, when the final police (legitimate report) was filed, family interviewed etc. it is now known that DHS got involved, and apparently Josh Duggar did not like the parameters they placed upon him for being in the house, so he sued. Also, the record of these occurrences were expunged due to the family running to the court asking a friend of Huckabee (a judge) to do so to protect the minor. So, here we have that record expunged, and get this: the record of the litigation Josh was involved in with DHS ended up being sealed so NOBODY can find the answers out. Thankfully, they are investigating the entire family once again, which is needed, and hopefully they will get the answers needed! Hope this helps! Sorry for the length!

Dr. Mark Bear June 1, 2015 at 6:04 am

I think one last point needs to be included here: the other big counter-point I hear being presented is “but they forgave him” referencing the victims. Sadly though: they have no choice whatsoever BUT to forgive him, and I can tell you as a psychologist, these things stick with victims for the rest of their lives. Should the sister not forgive, they are told, they are damning their own spirit, according to the Advanced Training Institute’s literature (the material now established which was used to assist Josh). Here is something interesting that I was told by another: Did you know that neither Jill nor Jessa had Josh in their respective wedding party? Neither. Is that pure coincidence, or evidence that someone has not been able to forget the matter?

SCBlueWoman May 23, 2015 at 11:12 pm

He abused his sisters from 14-17 hardley pubescent 14 year old boy. more like a sexual deviant teaching the girls to submit…. like his dad.

Mom May 23, 2015 at 10:28 am

As a parent, I understand the desire to protect a wayward child. At the same time, I cannot understand why the parents allowed a repeat sex offender to live in their home alongside younger daughters. WTH!

YallCalmDown May 23, 2015 at 10:43 am

Especially since one of the first victims to come forward was one of their own daughters. They had an obligation to protect her, and they engaged in a cover-up instead.

Zed May 23, 2015 at 3:18 pm


This will kill Huckabee in the primary.

Because I believe there IS a God!

Mom May 23, 2015 at 5:27 pm

Well we’ve known for quite a while Huckabee’s an idiot. For the life of me, I can’t see why ANYONE would align themselves with an admitted child molester. Publicly supporting the Duggars via Facebook is in poor taste, to say the very least. If he wanted to show his support for the Duggars, he should have just sent a nice note.

Criminals Like Josh May 26, 2015 at 11:41 am

They should be charged with child endangerment and obstruction of justice. Josh should be charged for his dirty deeds and be put on a sex offender registry for the rest of his life like any other kiddy-fiddling predator would be.

There is a difference between sin and crime. God deals with sin. Society should deal with crime. We imprison killers and rapists, we should imprison child molesters too.

fred farkel May 25, 2015 at 3:26 pm

Come on Mom it’s all about MONEY, and you screwed up baptist. Just cut his and jim bob’s little peckers off and be done with it.

b May 23, 2015 at 10:40 am

Fair analysis

Zed May 23, 2015 at 11:00 am

He’s scum, and his family is scum for covering up his scumminess.

carolineredbrook May 23, 2015 at 11:02 am

The Duggars are nothing less than pedophile enablers as accused pedophiles like Josh Duggar and Sylvain Kustyan, author of “Join The Team” and former English teacher at College Blaise Pascal, and Jerry Sandusky, etc., must be apprehended before they have decades to prey upon our children. Sandusky is behind bars. But unfortunately, Sylvain Kustyan, who has been formally charged with two counts each of 1st Degree Sodomy and 1st Degree Sexual Abuse of a ten-year-old little boy, fled to avoid imminent arrest. Kustyan, formerly of Tuscaloosa, Alabama and Hermin/ Mazingarbe, France, is now a fugitive from the law. Victims of Child Sexual Abuse often suffer lifelong physical problems as well as the psychological and emotional trauma from their horrifying experiences. Male victims have 3x’s the heart attack risk and 10x’s the suicide rate. Since the average pedophile has 300 different victims in their lifetime and since the recidivism rate among pedophiles is virtually 100% they must be stopped ASAP!

Todd May 23, 2015 at 12:29 pm

I’d add Paterno to that list.

disgusting pervs May 23, 2015 at 12:35 pm

What do you think being a homo and gay marriage is about?

vicupstate May 23, 2015 at 1:17 pm

Equal rights?

Barney P. Dinosaur May 23, 2015 at 2:44 pm

I love you, You love me,
Ho mo sex u al ity,
People say that we’re just friends,
But we are really Lesbians.

Zed May 23, 2015 at 4:04 pm

Equal treatment, per the Constitution of the United States, for consenting adult citizens?

Only in your mind do you equate it with same-sex pedophilia. LIkely because that is a “lifestyle” you are drawn to, and so you project that on others.

Seek good non-religious psychiatric help, pogo.

guest May 23, 2015 at 5:47 pm

Lol….Boz I have been on the water with family all day.First post.
Calling me a pedophile is going to cost you money.I got an email from a business partner about your allegation.
Carry on.

Zed May 23, 2015 at 7:32 pm

pogo/flip/fc, it is difficult enough to successfully sue for libel when someone posts something negative they claim (and believe) to be true about a public figure — and not have the verdict overturned via the appeals process. When the same is done about a troll with a thousand names, who has been caught in hundreds of lies, the difficulty increases exponentially.

Manray9 May 23, 2015 at 11:02 am

Perhaps we shouldn’t “rejoice” over the comeuppance of the Duggars, but its difficult. They have capitalized upon portraying themselves as paragons of virtue and “Christian values” — implying thereby that others are not. Be wary of those who ostentatiously proclaim their “values.” Christians are supposed to display humility.

Guest May 23, 2015 at 2:44 pm

So true.

ElizabethTMarle May 24, 2015 at 4:20 am

??? $73.. per-hr @mi2//


Daphne Hazel Rank May 26, 2015 at 2:37 am

I never felt the Duggars were implying they were better than others. If you felt that way, perhaps it’s due to your own insecurities. I think the parents have done an AMAZING JOB (as a mother of 5, I am painfully aware of the challenges of raising children!). It is terribly sad this family is going through this. I am so saddened for the victims, as well as the perpetrator, who I believe has grown up and recognizes his awful mistakes. Shame on the media! Let the courts serve justice.

SCBlueWoman May 26, 2015 at 9:48 am

Good lord. Awful mistakes? Predators are just guilty of mistakes. I’ll alert the media.

Manray9 May 26, 2015 at 11:01 am

Any Christian who trumpets their “religiosity” or their “values” for notoriety or financial gain has lost the essence of Christ. “When pride comes, then comes disgrace, but with humility comes wisdom.”

Squishy123 May 23, 2015 at 11:02 am

No surprise, there is something wrong with that whole family.

brad4455 May 23, 2015 at 1:14 pm

I’ve always said that they were a cult.

easterndumbfuckistan May 23, 2015 at 11:16 am

The whole quiverfull movement is either a cult or a political movement bent on either breeding either an army or a full on political machine. Each of the Duggar type “colonies” can breed 130,321 descendants in 4 generations (19 raised to the 4th power). If their are 1000 “colonies” in the country 130,000,000+ all in lock step with allegiance sworn to their chosen leaders.

dart May 23, 2015 at 12:03 pm

The Mexicans and Muslims seem to be doing just fine with their quiverfulls…enjoying all the welfare benefits the flat broke USA has to offer them…

DoorCty May 24, 2015 at 4:34 am

If the USA is “flat broke” it’s because we don’t pay in enough taxes and spend way too much on things like war. We’re the richest nation in the world.

Try Again May 26, 2015 at 8:38 am

Morning Flip!

euwe max May 23, 2015 at 11:36 am

..Of course, Mike Huckabee has walked the same path as Jim Bob Duggar, in having to cover up that the boy the Lord dun gave you hath gone astray. Huckabee’s boy didn’t diddle little girls, he just murdered a puppy dog, that’s all. As yr Wonkette reported all the way back in 2007:

Word is that David [Huckabee] and his best buddy hanged a stray dog while they were counselors at a Boy Scout camp, but no charges were ever filed and David eventually became an Eagle Scout despite being fired from his “job” as a Boy Scout camp counselor for torturing a fucking stray dog. While neither confirming nor denying the incident, Huck told Newsweek “There was a dog that apparently had mange and was absolutely, I guess, emaciated.”

You know all those lovely stories you see on the FaceSpace, about “they found this dog starving in a ditch, and you’ll never believe what he looks like now”? Yeah, two roads diverged in a wood, and David Huckabee instead took the one that had the emaciated stray dog on it, and he hung it up to die.

Mike Huckabee was Arkansas’s governor at the time, and he did what he could to sweep it under the rug, just like Jim Bob Duggar did, because BOYS WILL BE BOYS, we guess, and also as long as you ask Jesus to wash your sins away, all is well….

Zed May 23, 2015 at 2:41 pm


All is forgiven instantly if you are a good Christian Republican who mouths the right words and votes the right way. Including covering up horrific actions by your fucked-up offspring who likely got that fucked up by being raised by you.

juris May 23, 2015 at 11:39 am

Will America be more judgmental of Bill Cosby or Josh Duggar or Bill Clinton? Will the criminal behavior of a 13 year old boy and the family cover up be considered more reprehensible than the serial rapes performed allegedly by Mr. Clinton and Cosby?

euwe max May 23, 2015 at 11:40 am

Oh boy! I just *love* contrasting and comparing moral decrepitude… the one that wins washes away the sins of the other… isn’t that how it works? Or… is it that since everyone does it, my guy doesn’t deserve to be in the spotlight? I forget how these things work.. I’m getting old, and it’s hard to follow the twists and turns of political propriety.

I used to think that it was worse to claim to be a servant of God and molest your children than not to make a big deal about religion and get a blowjob in the white house. Now, I’m not so sure.

cluck May 23, 2015 at 12:07 pm

Yes…will Hilliary and her Bimbo Eruption Squad…which worked to smear the reputation of Bill’s victims…will she be judged as an enabler to crimes against women?

Mom May 23, 2015 at 12:08 pm


Zed May 23, 2015 at 3:04 pm

She was that, and she still is that.

Zed May 23, 2015 at 3:02 pm

I agree with much of what you say, but the truth is that Clinton was accused of far more than a blow job in the White House. He was accused of rape by Juanita Broaddrick, which allegedly occurred while he was AG of Arkasas He was accused of advances that constitute sexual assault in most states, by Kathleen Willie, while he was POTUS. Plus dropping trow and more or less intimidating that one woman (can’t recall the name) into sucking his dick, after having her brought to him by state law enforcement officers while he was on the campaign trail.

Patricia Ireland, president of NOW, said that Broaddrick was a credible witness who deserved to be heard. The Nation, in an op ed, went further and stated that Broaddrick was just as credible as Anita Hill. Did NOW endorse Clinton anyway? Of course. Ideology and partisanship trump justice and morality, every time.

… which was your point, I guess. So sure, the whole “Your guy did bla bla, so lay off of my guy” game is bullshit. But let’s be honest. With Clinton, the degree to which she Huckabeed the allegations of more serious sexual misconduct by her sex maniac husband is going to be a factor in the election. She may still win. But any win under those circumstances is really a dirty win.

DoorCty May 24, 2015 at 4:36 am

Depends on the skeletons in the others’ closets.

souless creatures May 23, 2015 at 12:08 pm

You know the answer to that.Liberals are Godless perverts and because of that assume no moral standing in a community.

The problem we have with moraless and cultural retards like euwe max,zed and mamatiger is they aren’t happy just being miserable human beings in their own sphere of misery….they try and infect others and the agencies within a community with their hate and perverted morality.

vicupstate May 23, 2015 at 1:15 pm

It is self-righteous, judgmental hypocrites such as yourself that is driving people away from God and Religion.

“I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ.” Mahatma Gandhi

Zed May 23, 2015 at 3:05 pm

Sad but true.

Devolved Religion May 26, 2015 at 8:45 am

Jesus: Help the poor and feed the hungry.

Modern Christians: But welfare is bad! Let’s just ban gay marriage and call it a day.

9" May 23, 2015 at 3:35 pm

What about me? I’m a shameless,cocksucking,buttfucking queer?
I’m not miserable,though.I’m getting ready to suck my 27th cock of the day WHILE fucking GT’s fat ass.

Squishy123 May 23, 2015 at 4:36 pm

I just don’t understand the whole gay thing… as a man, have you seen another man naked? Have you seen a woman naked? I don’t quite understand how one can choose the one with a hairy ass. I mean if you want to fuck something in the ass, a woman has that too. Hell if I was a woman I’d probably be a lesbian because I don’t see the attraction to a naked man.

9" May 23, 2015 at 5:51 pm

You’re not gay,so you shouldn’t understand,but it’s normal for guys,esp high school and college,to fool around,just as I did with women.What I don’t understand about straight men is-how can you stand THAT SMELL?!!!

Squishy123 May 23, 2015 at 7:32 pm

What smell? You mean the opposite of the stench of ass and BO? Did you fool around with just fat women or skanks that didn’t understand hygene… or maybe you’re talking about black women who all have that weird stench?

Zed May 23, 2015 at 11:09 pm

When I came out, my best friend screeched with joy, then said, “We can talk about boys together!”

Zed May 23, 2015 at 10:32 pm

You disgust me most of the time, but I agree with you on this. A man’s hairy ass has zero appeal to most heterosexual men. That is because, guess what? We are not gay, or bisexual.

It makes no sense at all to say a man actually chooses to have the desire to fuck another guy in the ass. For what reason would that even happen?

I do not remember the day, or night, that I finally “made the choice” to be straight. I don’t remember it because it never happened. It was never supposed to happen.

The whole notion that it’s a choice, I must conclude, is promoted by those who actually did have to choose to resist the (to them) mighty temptation of male ass (or female ass, for women).

This is why you have sick bastards like the voodoo shrink Marcus Bachmann. It should scare the piss out of every Republican that so many took seriously an obviously crazy woman who said she was “subservient” to such a goddamned maniac.

Squishy123 May 23, 2015 at 11:01 pm

You sickitate me.

Zed May 23, 2015 at 11:06 pm

When I came out, it was to a group of friends from school, who are all girls. They asked me if I was SWAG (Secretly We Are Gay), and I just keep repeating, “So Swag”. Then one of them wanted to hug me, but we were on a bunch of branches overhanging a lake, so she almost fell. We laughed warmly, and we basically just try to find ways for me to come out to my parents. The plan so far: “Mom, dad, I’m… I’m straight… STRAIGHT UP GAAAAYYYY!!!!” and then basically throw Skittles everywhere.

Squishy123 May 25, 2015 at 11:27 am

I suspect your coming out wasn’t a big shock to everyone.

Your parents already know, trust me… they know. And probably disappointed.

Jan May 23, 2015 at 12:07 pm

Rejoicing in the downfall of others, especially those that are politically different than you, is pettiness of the most juvenile and hateful manner. But it is also very common.

And that is the point–our culture has become common, juvenile and hurtful. I say it is time the children put down the keyboards and grow up.

mamatiger92 May 26, 2015 at 8:28 am

In the rush to defend & “forgive”, none of the Duggar apologists even acknowledges the suffering of the victims. THAT is the true tragedy here.

Todd May 23, 2015 at 12:26 pm

The only victims here are the girls that were molested. I’m was on the fence about Mike Huckabee, now that decision is easy for me. I will never support a sympathizer of a child molester. Pedophilia is an affliction with no cure.

vicupstate May 23, 2015 at 1:29 pm

A good college friend of mine said that anyone that places themselves on a pedestal as morally superior usually has the most to hide. He was right.

I hope the victims got some counseling and I hope someone is supervising his time with his own kids.

It is a travesty that the statute of limitations has run out and in many jurisdictions that wouldn’t be the case. Then again this is Arkansas, where inbreeding is common.

The Duggers have tried to vilify the GLBT community for wanting CONSENTING ADULTS to have the right to get married, all the while knowing their own family member was guilty of pedophilia crimes that would put him behind bars for most of his life. There is no bigger hypocrite than the nutty right kind.

erneba May 23, 2015 at 1:37 pm

Note to daddy Duggar, father of nineteen children at last head count.
I like chewing gum, but I take it out every once in a while.
Seriously, I watched the show once, did not make it all the way through. The boy should be made to pay, a coverup is inexcusable, he broke the law. But on the flip side, having nineteen children and only one turd surfaces, that is a pretty good batting average.

Mom May 23, 2015 at 5:33 pm

So you think the other kids are all normal? Don’t drink the Kool-Aid.

erneba May 23, 2015 at 5:45 pm

I think nothing about the other Children, never entered my mind. I plan on not making the Duggar family the focus of any attention nor my disdain. To jump to a conclusion, as you have done about me, just proves that are in the business of prejudging people and should be ignored. Personal weaknesses take on many forms and you should address yours before trying to play Doctor Phil.

no moral authority May 23, 2015 at 2:20 pm

Convicted of CDV and judging these folks? Please.

The Morality PoPo strikes May 23, 2015 at 2:56 pm

Misdemeanor CDV for maybe pushing his girlfriend who was standing in the doorway vs. molesting children? That’s no comparison.

Bad touch May 26, 2015 at 9:03 am

Number of victims shows he is a sexual predator, doing it to his sisters shows he doesn’t care who he violates. Pretty tough to defend that by comparing a guy who might have done something wrong in the heat of an argument.

tomstickler May 23, 2015 at 3:06 pm

If there is any lesson to be learned from this situation, perhaps it is that repression of natural sexual curiosity leads to “improper” behavior. It appears these homeschoolers trying to shield their children from the evils of sex education (skimpy though it may be) in the public schools are neglecting their parental duties.

It’s not normal that a Duggar daughter had never been kissed until after her recent wedding. Makes you wonder what sort of parental “sex education” these Duggar spawn receive.

Zed May 23, 2015 at 3:16 pm


Frank May 23, 2015 at 4:25 pm

You have drawn a false and evil conclusion from the aberrant behavior that is not representative of any group of people.

Deviant behavior can be found in any corner of society. Intentionally miscasting that behavior and painting a large group of people with your false and libelous conclusion is as deviant as any action mentioned in the story.

mamatiger92 May 26, 2015 at 3:22 pm

“Intentionally miscasting that behavior and painting a large group of people with your false and libelous conclusion is as deviant as any action mentioned in the story.”.

You do realize the irony of this statement, don’t you?

tomstickler May 23, 2015 at 3:11 pm

In related news, 62.1% of voters in Ireland approved a referendum to change the Irish constitution to allow same-sex marriage. Ireland!!!!!

9" May 23, 2015 at 3:27 pm


Squishy123 May 23, 2015 at 4:34 pm

You going to celebrate by sucking down a few tonight?

9" May 23, 2015 at 5:42 pm

Yes,Sir! Get in line.Irish men are SO good! I was married to one for quite a while…We had planned to make it legal,but according to Will,the genius,you have to do that in church.I don’t mind fucking the preacher of the church on a weekday when nobody’s there,and that’s so hot,but when two people bond,it shouldn’t be done in the holy man’s cum trails…

Squishy123 May 23, 2015 at 7:28 pm

You must be Catholic.

Mark M. May 23, 2015 at 3:23 pm

But it’s okay guys, because his God, er…I mean Dad, forgave him. I wonder how his sisters feel about it?

mamatiger92 May 26, 2015 at 8:47 am

“I wonder how his sisters feel about it?”
A question none of the Duggar apologists is asking.

Eric May 23, 2015 at 4:37 pm

The quality of commenters has fallen over the last year such that there is rarely any considered thought behind the comments. Often, they are simply displays of prejudice and hatred.

The comments are the stuff of warmed over political hackery masking the poster’s inability to reason beyond knee jerk reactions and worn out phrases.

Too bad, yes, too bad that there is rarely an original or interesting thought posted.

mamatiger92 May 26, 2015 at 8:46 am

oh, the irony.

idcydm May 23, 2015 at 5:47 pm

“Duggar Drama Rocks America”…Rocks America, therein lies the problem. People know more about pop-culture than there elected representatives.

~Get Real May 23, 2015 at 7:32 pm

I believe it all starts at the top and rolls down hill.

If you do a little research on pedophilia and washington DC, you could find a treasure trove of how this is used to blackmail a politician and/or discredit a person or situation. This has been used by ALL of them. In fact, the amount of information out there is so overwhelming, it is hard to keep up with it. The coverup runs deep and wide.

see this link below on “the franklin cover up”

or do a search on Jeff Epstein and pedophilia..


or this article entitled, “Power, Pedophilia and the US Government”

Think about it, who has the most to lose by running this story this many years beyond the Druggar scandal. IMO, this is a story about discrediting someone. Whether it be the Druggar’s or Huckabee… It is doing exactly what they want… getting americans talking about it. I don’t follow either so am uncertain as to who is being set up, but with the elections just around the corner, I could believe that Huckabee is the target.

~Get Real

Zed May 23, 2015 at 10:21 pm

So what?

The dude did that shit. His family and much of the government of Arkasas covered it up. Huckabee, especially. What, am I’m supposed to cry over the fact that it might hurt that two-faced theocrat dipshit?

Fuck ’em all!

~Get Real May 24, 2015 at 12:54 am

Chill… take it easy. I don’t expect you to respond in any manner. In fact, let me help you by saying don’t respond, you don’t do it very well…

So you can either absorb the info and move on or not.. your call.

Better yet, you don’t even have to read it… still move on… it makes no difference to me one way or the other. My life doesn’t change.

~Get Real

Zed May 24, 2015 at 4:50 am

Go right ahead and excuse child molestation, in order to advance a political agenda, then — as well as excusing all others who do so that happen to be Republicans. Also, continue to pose as a sane and responsible conservative in the process. It’s your soul that hangs in the balance, not mine.

~Get Real May 24, 2015 at 8:37 am

How much does Fitsnews pay you because it is too obvious what your job is on here ~~> to keep the conversation going. Your response in no way reflects what I stated in my original statement above. If you believe it does, then you need to go back to primary school. This is the last time I will respond to your inane statements .. Get a life, my friend.

~Get Real

euwe max May 23, 2015 at 8:39 pm

The good ole boys and girls in Arkansas have Josh Duggar’s back. We hope you didn’t want to see that police report, because it’s gone, just like it never existed.

Arkansas police have destroyed the records of the investigation into Josh Duggar’s alleged molestation of five underage girls, a police spokesman announced Friday, a day after the reality TV star resigned his position as head of FRC Action.

Springdale Police spokesman Scott Lewis said Judge Stacey Zimmerman ordered the 2006 offense report destroyed Thursday. Zimmerman didn’t return a request for comment on Friday.

“The judge ordered us yesterday to expunge that record,” Lewis said, adding that similar records are typically kept indefinitely. “As far as the Springdale Police Department is concerned this report doesn’t exist.”

How helpful of them! And as icing on the cake, Mike Huckabee and other politicians are stepping into the gap to stand tall for the dude who molested five of his sisters before he marched himself to TLC and the Family Research Council to preach his homophobic hatred.

“Those who have enjoyed revealing this long ago sins in order to discredit the Duggar family have actually revealed their own insensitive bloodthirst, for there was no consideration of the fact that the victims wanted this to be left in the past and ultimately a judge had the information on file destroyed_not to protect Josh, but the innocent victims,” Huckabee wrote.

Arkansas Sen. Bart Hester said Josh Duggar, who he has known for about five years, has been open and honest about the incident with wife, family and friends. State Sen. Jon Woods, who has known the Duggar family since 2005, said the family had put the issue behind them.

“It’s between the family members and was addressed a long time ago but it’s new to the public,” Woods said. “The family had time to heal and now the public needs time to heal.”

I’m glad Woods didn’t say that within earshot of me, because I would have slapped him verbally until he cried. How dare he shovel that pablum in our face? As for Huckabee, it’s good to know that he considers the truth the province of bloodthirsty people, but molestation is something worth protecting.

I’ll wait for the report where they blame the sisters. You know it’s coming.

Timmy Tebow May 27, 2015 at 10:45 am

I guess incest is best in Arkansas

euwe max May 27, 2015 at 1:09 pm

at least it indicates a healthy sexual orientation.

Todd May 23, 2015 at 8:57 pm

That fat chick from ‘Girls’ admitted to similar activity and gets hailed as a feminist hero. But to be conservative, religious, AND having a pedo problem – this guy’s life is over. The media leftos are going to destroy him. That is, unless they get distracted by another ‘race war now’ event that supports the narrative.

Zed May 23, 2015 at 10:16 pm

Maybe the difference is that Dunham faced opprobrium from the left, the right and the middle — and not all feminists, by any means, have embraced her. Similarly, her bits about “Jewish boyfriends” fell flat with many. Anyway, what she admitted to with her sister really amounted to little more than “playing doctor”, and was not part of a pattern that involved four (that we know of) other siblings.

“Fat-shaming” noted, btw. Could you possibly be more of a cliche?

nitrat May 23, 2015 at 10:51 pm

When you know you’ve got something like this in your family’s past, what in the world would possess you to want to take the chance of your victim children being exposed on a TV reality show?

Birthers For Cruz May 24, 2015 at 12:51 pm


mamatiger92 May 26, 2015 at 9:55 am

Greed & arrogance.

Observer Abroad May 24, 2015 at 5:03 am

The US will not really be rocked until there is the kind of an uncovering of the many connected rings of child-molesting high-profile public figures that is happening in the UK. It will happen tho and then it will be seen clearly then that the “conservative” Republicans have not cornered the market on child predation. Not by a long shot. The appetite for scandal of the tabloid press and its readers is wagging the tail of the mainstream media.

karmasabitch May 24, 2015 at 7:35 am

I just keep hearing that old adage about those without sin cast the first stone…..people like this are so self-righteous they deserve the fall when it comes…another goof adage…pride goeth before a fall

Sconset987 May 24, 2015 at 9:39 am

The takeaway from this story is that the Duggars are hypocrites.

Jeb May 24, 2015 at 7:51 pm

They are humans, jackass. From your post I can tell that you are perfect, but I think not. Perfect asshole perhaps.

mamatiger92 May 26, 2015 at 8:46 am

Humans AND hypocrites.

Ralph Hightower May 24, 2015 at 3:00 pm

Three words for Josh: Playboy, Penthouse, and masturbation.

Keeping it in the family value May 26, 2015 at 8:52 am

Porn and whacking off are sins. Bottling up your hormones until you do something stupid is the Christian thing to do!

Ralph Hightower May 26, 2015 at 6:28 pm

Some people just don’t understand irony. Supposedly, the Duggars are a good “Christian” family and this happens.

Taradacktyl May 24, 2015 at 3:55 pm

They put themselves in the political spotlight and happily spread their homophobia and ignorance. Rest assured that anyone who works for a bona-fide hate group has a closet of demons he’s hoping and “praying” won’t come flying out. It’s safe to say, this is the tip of the iceberg. Gay-bashing is their sacrament and misogyny their holy obligation. They get what they deserve.

Bible Thumper May 24, 2015 at 10:15 pm

Taradacktyl, don’t spew your hate here. We don’t want your pedophilophobia and incestophobia here. I do like your Christian bgotry. Keep it up.

Garbage May 25, 2015 at 5:44 pm

The fact this thread has more comments on it than most that deal with real issues is a classic example of everything that is wrong with America today. Really? This is most important? Many other articles written on this site of substance, but mention Southern Charm and wow!

Robert Lime May 25, 2015 at 6:54 pm

We are lucky that SC is not homophobic. The Concerned Veterans of America hired a gay man to run their state operation. It was courageous of them to hire a nonveteran and a gay man and I am proud of the Koch brothers.

Sammy Lime May 25, 2015 at 7:03 pm

Hey Bro,
Is Daniel Brennan out of the closet? Do the Koch brothers know he is gay?

Marty May 25, 2015 at 7:37 pm

It is a known fact that the military has a larger than average gay population. This is probably a way for the Koch’s to tap into the gay vote during the next presidential campaign.

Koch Groups May 25, 2015 at 8:51 pm

Koch Family Foundations
60 Plus Association
Academy on Capitalism and Limited Government (info)
American Commitment (CPI)
American Encore (formerly Center to Protect Patient Rights)
American Encore Action (info)
American Legislative Exchange Council (ALEC)
Americans for Prosperity (formerly Citizens For A Sound Economy)
American Highway Users Alliance
American Energy Alliance
American Enterprise Institute (info)
American Future Fund (info)
American Tradition Institute
Americans for Job Security

Americans for Limited Government
Americans for Tax Reform
Association for American Innovation (sourcewatch)
Atlas Economic Research Foundation (info)
Beacon Hill Institute (info) (info)
Bill of Rights Insitute (related article)
Cato Institute (was originally named the
Charles Koch Foundation, Inc. before rebranding)
Cause of Action
Center to Protect Patient Rights (fined for election law violation)
Charles Koch Institute (990 forms) (Related)
Citizens For A Sound Economy Foundation
Claude R Lambe Foundation (info)
Common Sense Principles (tied to Koch network)
Competitive Enterprise Institute (info)
Concerned Veterans for America (info)
Concerned Women for America (Religion – info info)
Democratic Leadership Council
Donors Trust
The EDvantage (part of the Institute for Humane Studies)
Federalist Society (info)
Freedom Partners (Freedom Partners Chamber of Commerce) (story)
Foundation for Research on Economics and the Environment
Fraser Institute (Canada – info)
Freedom Partners (a.k.a. Freedom Partners Chamber of
Commerce) (wikipedia) (sourcewatch)
Freedom Works (formerly Citizens For A Sound Economy)
Galen Institute
Generation Opportunity (info)
Goldwater Institute (sourcewatch)
Heartland Institute (info)
Hudson Institute (info)
Independent Women’s Forum (info)
Institute for Energy Research (info)
Institute for Humane Studies (info)
Institute for Policy Innovation (info)
Judicial Fairness Initiative (info)
Knowledge and Progress Fund (Charles Koch)
Koch Industries Public Sector, LLC (Koch lobbying group)
LIBRE Initiative (recruiting Latinos) (info) (info)
Manhattan Institute (info)
Mercatus Center (info) (Chuckie)
National Federation of Independent Businesses (info)
National Petrochemical and Refiners Association
(Koch Industries is a member)
National Right To Work Committee (info)
National Taxpayers Union (info)
Natural Gas Supply Association
(Koch Industries is a member)
Pioneer Institute for Public Policy Research (info)
Public Notice (POFN LLC) (article article)
Reason Foundation (and Reason.com) (info)
State Policy Network (info)
Texas Prosperity Project
Washington Legal Foundation (info)
Young Americans For Liberty (info)
Action Institute
Beacon Hill Institute
Bill of Rights Institute
Brookings Institution
Citizens For Congressional Reform Foundation
Ethics and Public Policy Center, Inc.
Federalist Society
George Mason University
Heritage Foundation
Institute for Energy Research
Institute For Justice
National Center For Policy Analysis
Pacific Research Institute For Public Policy

Buz May 25, 2015 at 9:08 pm

I had no idea that two billionaire brothers had all that going on. That can’t be good for America. I mean, two brothers running the whole damn thing?

nitrat May 26, 2015 at 8:58 am

Biggest money laundering operations on the planet.

Sarge May 26, 2015 at 2:52 pm

Yea, Nitrat, I agree. Every Republican politicians and operative in this state wants their fair share! This veteran would never again attend a CVA meeting- once was enough for me to see they are about politics, not vets!

Daphne Hazel Rank May 26, 2015 at 2:33 am

I’m not reading others’ comments below…just speaking what I believe. What Josh did was clearly wrong and he has admitted it and taken responsibility. Whoever exposed this should be ashamed because this was personal to the family and was dealt with inside the family – and in a strong way. They were NOT “sweeping this under the rug”. My deepest regret is that many will misjudge Jesus and His teachings because of this….but the reality is that Jesus came to love and save the LOST – which includes all of us. This family has been deeply wounded – by their son – by the media. But Christ’s love is secure, it is redeeming and it is eternal!

nitrat May 26, 2015 at 9:08 am

“…dealt with inside the family…”
Yes, I guess that’s what incest is all about.

mamatiger92 May 26, 2015 at 9:27 am

It’s probably not a good idea to put your family on a reality TV show when you have this kind of skeleton lurking in your closet. I mean come on!

mamatiger92 May 26, 2015 at 8:26 am

And, NO ONE is talking about the victims.

Writenow May 27, 2015 at 12:28 pm

His “mistakes” are criminal. Also, serial. Did you seriously not notice one pedophile was put in the care of another? They likely all share child porn online…because, no accountability so far, so no reason to stop.
Arkansas police and CPS need to investigate their computers Now.


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