IT’S ALL ABOUT THE EDUCATION, BABY
|| By FITSNEWS || Straight out of fantasy land … U.S. president Barack Obama has got another deal for you!
The liberal leader – apparently unaware his government is $18 trillion in the hole – is proposing taxpayers subsidize the first two years of community college for anyone “willing to work for it.” Great … here we go again.
“Everyone understands that education is the key to success for our kids in the 21st century, but what we also understand is that it’s not just for kids. We also have to make sure that everyone has the opportunity to constantly train themselves for better jobs, better wages and better benefits,” Obama said in announcing his proposal.
No, no, no, no, no, no … NO.
Don’t get us wrong, education absolutely is the key to success … but if you think government is key to guaranteeing a good education, think again. And if you think massive government investments produce equality of opportunity – spend some time in South Carolina.
Jasper County, specifically …
More to the point, the existing higher education bureaucratic complex is already heavily subsidized by government … not only in the costly budgets of state-supported institutions of “higher learning” but also in the $1 trillion (and expanding) student loan bubble.
Not surprisingly, status quo “Republicans” in South Carolina – who are really nothing but Democrats in disguise – were warm to Obama’s idea.
“I am not sure how he proposed we pay for this, but I will say, it has more value than a whole lot of other programs we could do without to create a pool of money for this effort,” Upstate GOP consultant Chip Felkel wrote.
Well guess what … he didn’t propose how to pay for it.
Of course that’s no big deal for “Republicans” like Felkel, who never met a tax hike they didn’t lobby for …
Look: Free college would be awesome. It would help millions of people. Nobody’s arguing that. And if it really were free, it would probably have some tremendously positive effects on the economy.
But like “free” health care, “free” college is not free. In fact, if the administration’s estimates are to be believed his latest plan would cost $34.2 billion a year – on top of the billions already being blown on higher education (which we hate to say, is not a core function of government).
That’s money that doesn’t go into the economy … where real jobs and real opportunities are created.
In SC they refer to the first two years of college as “remediation” for the failure of the schools to teach students how to reed and right.
I see what you did there.
Well done, sir.
Yeah, they seem to struggle with maff too.
That should reed “maff two” cause it’s about nummers.
So one gov’t program to fix another. Sounds like a good plan.
my .tep-sister makes $87 an hour on the laptop . She has been fired from work for 7 months but last month her paycheck was $17399 just working on the laptop for a few hours. why not try this out;.Well done…
LMAO!!!! Bless his heart!!! Comrade Obama gonna give everybody 2 years of college for FREE!! 18 TRILLION in debt (8 TRILLION when Czar Obama declared himself King).
Just like in Obamacare you could keep your doctor, hospital and your insurance costs would go down with lower deductibles and co-pays!!!
I used to believe Obama was just an narcissistic ,ideological, ‘closet muslim’ with a marxist world-view-I am beginning to believe he is insane.
Oddly Flip my deductible is the same, my premiums just went down like $27 a month, I have the same doctor I’ve had for 8 years, and – I have a 6-figure job. Unemployment just fell to 5.6%, stocks at 18,000 and climbing, wagings going up, best job growth in the last 12 months since 1999. Pretty much, by most measures – a success. Unless of course your a closet Klan Member. What say you – oh hate monger?
Keep repeating the lie. Hitler tried it.
Good morning Big T!
Harry Reid just announced he is not running in 2016.
Not Big T. Another drooler afflicted with the same kind of madness.
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Don’t worry, Flip doesn’t have too many years left. He’s freaked out by the whole Death Panel thing.
Not me. I worry about the citizens that can’t afford to pay the tax/fine for Obamacare and that will have their property taken and put in jail.
As Medicaid Rolls Swell, Cuts in Payments to Doctors …
The New York Times
Dec 27, 2014 – The Affordable Care Act provided a big increase in Medicaid payments… As Medicaid Rolls Swell, Cuts in Payments to Doctors Threaten Access to Care …and in many states Medicaid payment rates for primary care services, …
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The Seattle Times
Dec 30, 2014 – But it amounts to a 28 percent cut in fees for primary care for children — and a 70 percent drop in reimbursement rates for doctors who care for …
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American Academy of Family Physicians
Dec 17, 2014 – Medicaid Cuts Threaten Primary Care Practices, Access to Care …But with payment rates for Medicaid scheduled to revert to 2012 levels on …
Well Flippy – I’m sure your Mom’s proud of you sticking up for the fees doctors charge for annual visits.
You don’t pay anything on Medicaid.Six figure job and you post on FITS 24/7? Liar.
How ’bout you, sport? You post constantly here yourself, now that The SNOB is dead. Supposedly while going back and forth endlessly between Yellow Springs OH, Myrtle Beach SC, Orlando FL and Las Vegas NV. What kind of job lets you do that? Can’t be a travel writer. They’d make you travel to other places. Plus you can’t write for shit.
Hi Buz. How are you today? You seem ‘chippy’ and ‘spirited’ this morning.
Been in mom’s purse again and off to the liquor store or did you stumble upon another scandalous crime commited by an evil wrong doer in your sic mind while watching Dragnet last night?
I only drink red wine, at the most two glasses a couple of times a week. I don’t get it from the liquor store, usually, I imbibe at restaurants, along with a meal and full glass of water for each glass of wine. I don’t touch my mother’s purse, don’t need to, I’m making an adequate living. ‘Bout to get a lot better, too.
These are facts. You are still regurgitating bullshit from bullshitters (who btw, still hate your guts) on a dead blog from several years ago. It was all fabricated then, and you are not creative enough to fabricate anything new out of it.
YOU are still playing the same fucking games you did on The SNOB. Multiple fake identities, with one to which you keep returning, trying to smear people who stand up to your bullshit, etc. You have lied more times than I can count, you have presented absurdly false versions of reality — even you own reality — constantly.
You seem to want to be taken seriously, but there is no “you” to take seriously. Most of the people here who are basically anonymous, using fake and often funny names, stick with one identity, one storyline about themselves. It’s easier to believe they are genuine. You? Not at all.
Total bullshtter. I almost said “bullshit artist”, but that is giving you far too much credit. Even when you succeed as being an irritating troll, you suck at it. I could easily invent a far more interesting irritating troll. I would fashion it from cow shit — and that would be an upgrade.
Dang Boz.I have no idea what you are talking about and you appear to be very angry. Please don’t hurt yourself or anybody else over the weekend. Maybe call the therapist that you mentioned had ‘unfriended’ you on Facebook?
Again, have a pleasant weekend.
You know full well what I’m talking about. All those so-called important and successful busnessmen you now seem to worship despised you worse than I ever did. It amused me the way they twisted themselves into knots with anger at you, constantly telling you to go away and leave “their” blog alone. You called them drunks, attacked their political stances if they were not sufficiently far right for you, and generally dogged the shit out of them. Then you’d start whining that somebody had “hacked” you, or were stalking you online. Here’s a hint: You cannot stalk a nameless troll, or one that uses a variety of fake names.
Your story kept changing, too. And you’d agree to meet some of the “SNOB Summiteers” in person, privately, or show up in person at one of the events — only to cancel out right before, usually with the excuse of being stalked or hacked again.
You “left” the blog a hundred times, at least, but soon returned with another fake name, or as “pogo” again — or “pogo2”, “pogo (original)”. etc.
You’ve displayed exactly the same pattern here.
You don’t impress me, you don’t really anger me, and in no way do you scare me. Annoy? Yes. You annoy everybody except Big T, and he is a match for you in total lunacy. I’ll keep calling out your bullshit.
Boz it has been a long day but I wanted to respond to your obviously drug/booze/psychotic induced rant above.
I have no idea what you are talking about.
I have never tried to impress you.
My apologies if I have have ever made you angry-in my opinion you are a dangerous,deranged,psychotic lunatic and hate to hear you are mixing booze with your drugs.
My intent has never been to scare you. I don’t know you and have just commented about your lack of knowledge of politics and losing record on picking winning political candidates.
Oh, DON”T EVER FUCK WITH ME!!!!! :-)
“Oh, DON”T FUCK WITH ME”, you said in the original version of that message I got in email notification. Please know this: Your threats don’t impress me a bit. You’ve often chosen to dredge up old posts from me dealing with situations that no longer pertain, as well as baseless allegations, gross distortions about me and downright lies about me and my family, posted in a hostile blog environment by a certain drunken, narcissistic sociopath.
Due to your doing that, as an anonymous freak with myriad IDs, I, as a real, known entity, reserve the right to respond in kind, at a time of my choosing. I do have almost the entire archive of The SNOB for the two and a half years I was on it, and have no compunction at all about posting numerous examples of the “pogo behavior.”
To quote you, you misanthropic freak of nature, religion, politics and severe mental disorder, DON’T FUCK WITH ME!
I am a semi-retired/self-employed kinda husband,father and grandfather that gets real busy next month. Lots of travel for a few months.FITS will have to do without me much, soon.
Need my SS# or do you already have it? :-)
Ah that explains it. An aging baby boomer who hates the President because he calls for collective action, but old Flippy is from the ME generation. A spoiled baby-boomer born in the mid-to-late 50s who’s entering his Golden Years, afraid the Muslim Blackie will give his entitlements away to someone else. He missed the JFK statement about ask what you can do for your country and has been leaching off tax credits and inflated deductions for years. You still got those bell bottoms from 1973 along with the first Eagles Greatest Hits?
I can multi-task. I know you struggle with that. Ever think of being a used car salesman? That way you could be a dick and get paid for it.
Oh, Flip – call Smirks. You’re almost citing. Very good. I am so proud of you.
I can cite that the Democrat party doesn’t exist anymore!!! LMAO!!!
Iman Obama was your last hope to destroy America. Hillary is batshit crazy after that stroke and sounds like Fidel Castro.
My premium went up last year, though it hadn’t gone up for several years before that. No increase this year. Kept all my doctors.
What is more important is more people are covered now, and lifetime maximums and preexisting conditions (i.e. privatized debt/death panels) are gone. Sucks that we still have the for-profit middlemen sucking our blood but at least it is a slight improvement from what we had before.
Covered? Does no good to have FREE health insurance (Medicaid) and a doctor will not see you. Happening to millions on Medicaid.
SC rejected the Medicaid expansion, as did several other states. Any upticks in numbers of insured people in those states is purely on the exchange or employer-based platforms, which you have to pay for, even if you do get subsidies on the exchange.
Swing and a miss.
No. The increase in insured NATIONALLY is because of the expansion of Medicaid-and these people can’t find services.
The insurance is worthless.
The only good thing about Obama and the IRS arresting those that can’t pay the tax/fine is that I bet they have good health care in prison.
Again, we didn’t expand Medicaid here in SC, our uninsured rate still dropped.
When you threaten people about taking their home, refund and jail they will sign up for anything.
Doesn’t mean they will pay.
When you threaten people about taking their home, refund and jail they will sign up for anything.
Home: 
Jail: 
“…..he didn’t propose how to pay for it….”
Why should he.
The Cockroach ain’t going to use any of his money. He has been sucking off Uncle Sam’s Dick for the past 12 or so years and as X-POTUS he will continue to suck off
Fucking Bat Shit Crazy Cockroach
—- and still a piss-ant!
Well, if we would give up the wars we are fighting in the Middle East, we could afford free college for everyone. It’s a matter of the governments priorities.
Sure.And free housing and cars and phones and tvs and phones and food and boats and airplanes and insurance and gas and toys…
My God you socialists are stupid.
You left out “phones”.
The free cell phones came thanks to the FCC under the Bush administration. Too bad Fox News won’t call them DubyaPhones though. I guess it doesn’t have the same ring to it.
Problem is under Obama the fraud started-like every other thing Obama has his hands on.
DENVER (CBS4) – A federally regulated program providing free cellphone service and phones to the poor and needy in Denver appears to be riddled with waste, fraud and abuse, according to an undercover CBS4 Investigation.
The $2 billion a year Lifeline program has handed out more than 13 million free cellphone plans across the country in the first six months of this year. In Colorado, the program handed out more than 117,000 free cellphone plans in the first half of this year, or about 20,000 cellphones every month.
The free phones and their wireless plans are paid for by a monthly tax on your cellphone, called the Universal Service Tax. Although the Lifeline wireless program has been around since 2005 and started under president George W. Bush, it has exploded under President Obama’s administration and the phones are often referred to as “Obamaphones.”
Although the Lifeline wireless program has been around since 2005 and started under president George W. Bush
Thanks for proving my point. Oh, and kudos for learning how to cite. :)
Your point? The article clearly states that the FRAUD started under the Obama administration.
You used to be a challenge. I am beginning to think you are as dumb and uninformed as ‘6 figures’ Rocky!!! :-) LMAO!!!!
The fraud has been there from the beginning, it’s just that when cell phone companies figured out how much they could rip off John Q. Taxpayer they went crazy for it, and nothing was there to stop them.
Again, thanks Dubya.
Meanwhile, reform was passed in 2012 to attempt to save up to $2 billion on the lifeline program:
So yeah, Dubya fucked shit up and Obama’s having to fix it. Surprise!
You still have yet to condemn Dubya or the FCC under his administration for starting this program you despise so much. Gee, what a surprise there, too?
Read the article. Facts just don’t matter to you. Under Obama the program ‘exploded’ with fraud…just like the food stamp program exploded with numbers and fraud under Obama.
Although the Lifeline wireless program has been around since 2005 and
started under president George W. Bush, it has exploded under President
Obama’s administration and the phones are often referred to as
What am I missing? The program exploded after its inception because private industry stepped up its marketing tactics and no regulation was placed on how much could be spent. Basically, anyone who qualifies gets a free phone. This was all done under Bush. The problem continued to get worse and worse as we went from the Bush admin to the Obama admin because the people making bank on the program kept stepping up their marketing to make more and more money.
If you have proof that Obama did something to expand the program, or actually made the problem worse somehow, then you’ll need to provide proof of that.
As for why they’re called “Obamaphones,” that’s pretty much due to talk radio, Fox News, and right wing blog propaganda taking fire. The simple fact is that the program started under Bush and Bush did nothing to limit it upon leaving office.
I guess you’ll want to blame Obama for all the problems with the Medicare part D expansion that Bush signed too, eh?
Checkmate on YOU. Have a good weekend. I see fellow SOCIALIST Buz has arrived. You two should get along fine.
You like cartoons and he is one. :-)
Checkmate on me? You have yet to move at all, bruh.
It exploded under Obama because Bush destroyed the economy and millions more were eligible for the phones.
It was actually started under Reagan, expended under Bush and exploited to the Nth degree under Obama. Get your facts straight.
Um yeah, not so much – the Low Income Lifeline Program that provide a $9.25 a month subsidy to help those within 135% of the poverty line get cell phones actually came out of the “Telecommunications Act of 1996” “Universal Service Fund Program” and unless my memory is faulty, a guy named Bill “Slick Willie” Clinton was the president at that time.
Considering our mounting student loan debt, out-of-control tuition costs at universities, and people not always taking advantage of cost-effective higher ed opportunities like tech colleges and community colleges, I’d say this is a step in the right direction. At the very least, universities will have to compete with the community colleges, both in what they charge and what they offer.
They would need something in the bill that would keep community colleges from jacking up rates in response though, or it’ll end up doing more harm than good, similar to what student loans have done.
“They would need something in the bill that would keep community colleges from jacking up rates”
On point though that it could provide some interesting competition (see Ivory Tower)
That said, one thing that must remain in the conversation is this…higher education is not for everyone (just like home ownership, etc. etc.). Thus, it should help ensure those that are qualified can gain access. Moreover, it should encourage those that could stand to gain, whilst avoiding the temptation to encourage those that it is NOT suited for. (See Phoenix University online scam with the homeless)
“Colleges” like University of Phoenix should just be entirely cut off from receiving any financial aid money from the government whatsoever. It’s a shame they find milking people for every red cent they can is so profitable though, they have quite a wallet to lobby with.
“they have quite a wallet to lobby with”
Ergo, please bring on campaign finance reform. Not what 435 idiots just did last month.
You central planners got it all figured out. It all sounds great and I’m sure will go off without a hitch.
With a combination of other people’s money and the printing press, just about anything can be done.
‘Yes we can!’
It all sounds great and I’m sure will go off without a hitch.
No one assumes it will go off without a hitch, but plenty of other countries invest in higher ed far, far more than we do. (Hell, America 40+ years ago did too.)
Clearly slashing public university funding over the last several decades has not helped, private universities have not filled the need for affordable education, and private student loans were even more of a ripoff than the gubmint ones.
Spoken like a true SOCIALIST!!!
Shh, the adults are talking here.
Sure glad I don’t have loved ones going to “higher ed” in Paris.
What is it with SC’s Republicans aversion to improving education? Stay dumb if you like, but don’t try to hold other people back.
We have to oppose Common Core! But let’s not reform our own almost-worst-in-the-nation curriculum, that would be crazy.
God will take care of us. It’s worked for the past 150 years.
The rats are jumping ship-bye bye Boxer and welcome aboard Manchin!!
God is indeed in charge!!!
Because keeping people stupid is how Republicans keep people poor and subservient. Besides, Republicans are dumber than dogshit (something that is proved day in and day out on this website) and can’t stand anyone smarter than they are–like, for example, a loaf of bread or a large rock
The Democrat Party and the race hustlers that own it have enslaved generation after generation of blacks into a perpetual welfare system,failing schools and violent neighborhoods.
No daddy and no jobs. Why? Votes. That is called ‘keeping people stupid’.
That is called ‘keeping people stupid’.
You must be their biggest success then.
You aren’t stupid. Getting paid by the taxpayers to show us all what a intellectually bankrupt SOCIALIST you are is really ingenious.
Unlike you, I pay taxes. :)
I pay taxes. Lets exchange tax returns?
lol… I only have what’s necessary drawn out, my return is tiny as a result. You’d either lose money or make very, very little.
My return was bigger when I worked minimum wage even.
Have a good weekend.
This idiocy won’t fix anything, you’ll just have a bunch of kids taking up spaces in classes accomplishing nothing but diverting more of your tax dollars into giant gubamint funded boondoggles.
And you know how? With welfare reform under Clinton. People were encouraged to enroll in community colleges. My Wife works with several women who took that up. They are now RNs making great money and supporting their families and paying taxes. So get out of the way and let people get educated. I guess spending most of the country’s money on war after war is OK?
You might want to check what the president is actually proposing.
Free shit for everyone! Fire up the printing presses!
Hell, put the gravy train into overdrive, it’s never coming off the tracks.
“That’s money that doesn’t go into the economy … where real jobs and real opportunities are created.”
Actually, that is 34.2 billion dollars going into the econemy to pay for new college jobs to support the new students. Also all the construction jobs for expanding campuses.
This is a great idea as long as the money doesn’t go to all the scam private colleges that have been ripping off the GI Bill.
as long as the money doesn’t go to all the scam private colleges
Don’t worry, they’ve bought enough congressmen to ensure it does.
HUh? Sounds like another scam like Obama pulled on us last time-‘shovel ready jobs’ which even he denied existed.
This just an attempt by a marxist thinking pResident to control the education of our youth by using the government.
If the government is paying for your education they can do what ever they want in brain washing students with dangerous, radical teachings.
Free college for the first two years, that’s a great idea. It will free up the professors at four year colleges to donate their time to teach the first two years because their work load will have been cut in half. It’s a win win for everybody.
Ahhhh…gimme more of that free guvmint stuff. My life won’t be complete until everything is guaranteed and paid for by someone else.
It is hilarious how this website continually ignores facts, i.e. why debt is healthy in an international economy, to push your agenda. You definitely get some good political scoops in SC, but its getting to the point where those aren’t enough to justify visiting your site. Tisk Tisk Fits
Its not that far fetched, it’s already happening.
This is one of those things that sounds like a good idea until the unintended consequences start kicking in. It sounds great that people who are out of work or just starting out in life and cannot pay for upgrading their education will be able to go to school and learn a trade that will help them get a job.
Instead of fixing the real reason people are out of work:
Lack of tort reform
I am sure y’all can add to the list.
Guaranteed this will be a boon to the two year schools. With Uncle Sam (us) footing the bill then people will be streaming in to the schools. Then the two year schools can start jacking up their tuition fees the same way the four year schools have been doing since the government loan programs started.
Pay for it by doing away with the Dept of education, Dept. of energy and maybe a few dozen more. Give education back to the States where it belongs and reduce employees from 6,000 to 60 and let Walmart run it. The Dept. of energy can be reduced from 16,000 employees to 160 and combined with the Dept of Commerce or Walmart.
Hey, dumbass, Germany provides free college educations EVEN FOR AMERICANS WHO GO OVERSEAS TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT!!! Other countries provide medical services for a fraction of what they cost here!!! Drugs in Canada and Mexico are so cheap elderly Americans laugh about it. WAKE UP, SMUCKFACE! Smell the roses!
There are a lot of potential pitfalls and unintended consequences with this proposal but as government programs go it strikes me having more upside than most.