WHY DO WE HAVE A BORDER AGAIN?
By FITSNEWS || U.S. President Barack Obama is reportedly planning executive actions aimed at providing amnesty to “up to five million undocumented immigrants,” administration sources with direct knowledge of the proposals told The New York Times.
Well, well … so much for Obama “getting the message” in the wake of the shellacking his party during the 2014 midterm elections.
Under Obama’s new executive guidelines, the only people who can now be deported are “convicted criminals, foreigners who pose national security risks and recent border crossers.”
“Asserting his authority as president to enforce the nation’s laws with discretion, Obama intends to order changes that will significantly refocus the activities of the government’s 12,000 immigration agents,” the Times reported.
Translation? There’s really no longer any point to having a border. At all.
This website has never pandered to the far right on the immigration issue. And we’ve never believed in mass deportations. Our views on the issue – addressed extensively in this column – err on the side of pathways to status, not citizenship. Which means we’re pretty much “centrists” on the issue.
Having said that, before any action is taking to deal with the status of the 13 million or so undocumented immigrants (a.k.a. “illegal aliens”) currently residing in America – the spigot must be turned off.
“The security of America’s borders is a core function of government – one that’s been neglected as Washington’s welfare and warfare states (and crony capitalism, eco-radicalism and regulatory terrorism) have spiraled out of control,” we wrote recently. “Why not stop subsidizing millions of things government shouldn’t be doing and start spending tax dollars on one of the handful of things it should do?”
We would re-pose that question in light of Obama’s contemplated executive actions … along with former U.S. Rep. Ron Paul’s question regarding the efficacy of a failed “War on Drugs” that only incentivizes additional border crossings.
Long overdue. Go for it Mr. President.
If Obama were enacting legislation allowing him to crap in everyone’s mouth on the first sunday of the month, you would be on board and the first in line. Idiot.
Bless your heart. Idiot troll. President Obama hater.
Line up for that mouth full of Obama fecal matter, sheep.
Keep your head in the sand.
Man does not evolve without work. He is generally not meant to evolve spiritually, but serves organic purposes, for which his normal undeveloped condition is sufficient. Awareness does him no good. Evolution in a man is a rare exception, a going against the stream, an escape from the general law.
If you truly wish to gain consciousness, you will have to go to work.
I can see you. You do not see yourself; you are not conscious of yourself. With you, ‘it observes’ just as ‘it speaks’ ‘it thinks,’ ‘it laughs.’ You do not feel: I observe, I notice, I see. Everything still ‘is noticed,’ ‘is seen.’ … In order really to observe oneself one must first of all remember oneself.
Self-remembering is the bridge between knowledge and wisdom. To be aware of oneself in the present, to break away from whatever imaginary world one may have delved in a moment ago and return to reality. It is an instantaneous internal reorganization: pushing one’s mechanical thoughts and emotions to the background while bringing one’s Higher Self to the forefront – remembering one’s Self.
This is your work. Go to it.
..or remain as you are.
What source did you copy/paste that drivel from?
didn’t understand it, did you?
Countdown to meltdown. 10, 9, 8, Zircon Jamie, 7, 6, Grand Taco, 5, 4, Sandi Moraless, 3, 2…………..
What if they’re the same person?
Has the General been here, too?
Not a bad idea. No citizenship and they can’t vote. Obama is essentially putting them in ‘no man’s land’.
An EO by Obama would be much better than an immigration law that is a pathway for citizenship.
Republicans get a win-win. Cheap labor and they pay taxes. Can’t vote.
Except they are 5 million parents of 15 million chidren born in the USA who will loyally vote Dem going forward because El Grande Obama stopped Mami y Papi from being deported.
They have NO path to citizenship with the EO-neither do the children of the illegal’s.
Obama just fucked himself. No voting for Pedro & family! LMAO!!!!
neither do the children of the illegal’s.
14th amendment don’t real.
They are not allowed to vote. They were allowed to stay per the last EO. They don’t have citizenship.
And per this latest EO the 5 MILLION illegal adults will never be able to vote.
Smart move by pubs. Let work and pay taxes for the free services they are already getting.
They will never vote. THere is NO pathway to citizenship.
You need to do more research, bro.
No citizenship-no vote!!!
LMAO!!! Obama is gonna fuck the Hispanics AGAIN!!!
I’m telling you man, you’re missing one big thing here.
Don’t tease the trolls!
Well its a hell of a lot better than they have now. At least they get jobs were their boss can threaten them with deportation if they don’t work for $1 an hour. Its more than the GOP would ever have given them, and it gives them hope for their children.
Perhaps no pathway to citizenship for Mami y Papi, but el ninos y ninas are citizens under the 14th Amendment.
You could look it up ™!
Republicans swear up and down they’re the party of the Constitution, but I swear a good number of them haven’t actually cracked it open to read it sometimes.
Well, that’s not true. RINOs can read. It’s the Tea Party ones I’m not convinced about.
Republicans could care less about the Constitution as a whole, they only care about the 1st/2nd amendment
If Republicans had their way, they’d Bork the 1st Amendment, too.
Same way the Dems would with that and the 2nd Amendment?
liberals don’t care how many guns you have, unless you’re a crazed minister fucking the kids in your congregation, and getting ready for Armageddon when they come to arrest him.
Or a bunch of knuckle-draggers who use guns to supplement their “manhood”, make up for their waddle, belly-over-belt, and give them the edge they think they need over the growing army in their paranoid minds.
Go ahead, tie a goat to a tree and shoot it to death to “get back to your roots” if that’s what you gotta do… but walking into a Chipotle armed for guerrilla warfare to get a burrito – you could put someone’s eye out with that thing, hoss!
But what do I know? They’re probably waiting for you right now, outside your door… and if they are, by god, you’re ready for them… and don’t worry – I won’t come knocking at your nuclear bomb shelter when the shit hits the fan.. I’ll take my medicine.
Most of them don’t even know the Supreme Court defines what the constitution *is*. They think they read the constitution in some spiritual trance and decide whether law is constitutional or not.
The children that just crossed the border in the last year and these 5 MILLION adults Obama is planning to let stay have NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP PER THIS EO.
They will never vote.
Their kids will.
Some may, some will not. Obama has screwed the Democrat Party because of his ego.
The Gov-elect in Texas just got 44% of the Hispanic vote.
They will never legally vote.
Hope you don’t mind me fixing that for you.
There is zero evidence of illegals voting in US elections. More Republican fear mongering.
But the 15 million kids those five million people had in Texas and CA and FL – Dude – we’re talking mainly about 5 million people who have been here for over 15 years, and many for over 20. Their kids are either approaching 18 or already over 18. Check, mate, oh yeah!!!!
Again, Rubio – Graham – McConnell – McCain – Graham – Toomey – Ayotte – Kirk – Alexander – Corker – Collins – will all vote to make sure they do have a pathway to citizenship – to grease the rails for Jeb. Jeb wants it – Jeb will get it.
Actually when the Senate and House give them amnesty with a pathway to citizenship they will vote.RINOs to the rescue.
“THere is NO pathway to citizenship.”
Really? I’m surprised that wouldn’t be incorporate somehow.
Not with his EO. He is just delaying their departure as illegal citizens and trying to stay just below the threshold of IMPEACHMENT.
If he does do anymore the congress will have NO choice but to impeach him.
Gotta go with Smirks here – you’re really missing the big picture. And again, I’ll tell you, Jeb’s already set the pre-condition – you not votey for Amnesty – I no runny against Hillary. Check – mate – done. The only reason the GOP is pleading – no – begging Obama not to do it is because it sets off a huge fireball in the GOP. Hate’s gotta live somewhere.
Try reading the amendment “…: Amendment XIV, Section 1.
All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws.”
Even for a “Constitutional Scholar” like the president, that’s kind of hard to get around – course that’s his plan…
Every kid they have,
born here in this land,
are citizens at birth.
They will get to vote, you can’t build a moat,
Besides – the GOP Senate and Congress will move to give them a pathway to citizenship by August to clear this issue away so Jeb can run.
That’ll be an interesting debate now won’t it….
What will be an interested debate?
Can an EO exclude a whole category of people (the answer is no)
Exclude who from what?
if so, then not. It’s so, fatso.
Hey, Guest – if those kids were born here in the good old USA they are already citizens – therefore at 18 they can vote. I will say it again – these are 5 million parents of 15 million chidren born here in the USA who will loyaly vote Dem going forward for generations. Bye bye.
He’s just adding to the Dem voting rolls. A little C./S. American “social justice” to help tilt the scales to progressives.
Well actually not. He can’t give them the right to vote.
Tom, you get it. Republicans are daring him to do this EO. The public will be outraged and demand the border be closed.
Republicans will off the hook for immigration reform
Ah, your last guy won the majority of the white vote, and you lost in a landslide because of Hispanic votes. You really think you’re off the hook?
One would assume that a path to citizenship means a path to voting….
There is NO path to citizenship per this EO. NONE!!
I just read that, amazing!
I thought open borders was the general Libertarian idea?
Nah.. if the Mexicans want our land, they’ll have to buy it from the legitimate Libertarian owner(s).
Real Libertarians believe in open borders. Teanutarians do not.
Yes it is.
Fits is nothing more than a perpetually disgruntled Republican who “plays” a Libertarian here on this site
It’s a complicated issue for libertarians, not sure where Libertarians stand on it…but libertarians start with the idea that everyone who owns their property would protect it, making a natural “border” protection a personal responsiblity…I think the capital L’s do some type of naturally contradictory position that reinforces a Folks type notion of it being a “core gov’t” “service”.
Effective immediately you are hereby ordered to take, borrow, steal, carjack any SUV you come upon, use your government credit card to fill it with gas, drive to the border, pick up as many illegals you can, drive them to any Red State, dump them out and then return for another load
Remember your POTUS loves you and don’t worry about how this will affect the future for your grandchildren
Personally I am not worried. Of course I am moving to Costa Rica but that is another story for another time
adiós tu madre mudo cabrones
Just waiting for the story about State Farm kicking Bobby Harrell to the curb…..
U.S. President Barack Obama is reportedly planning executive actions aimed at providing amnesty to “up to five million undocumented immigrants,” administration sources with direct knowledge of the proposals told The New York Times.
Now, confiscate their guns! HAHAHAHAH!
Yep. Republicans played this well. Nobody trusts Obama anymore. They knew he would throw a tantrum after the mid-terms and to prove he was still relevant shred the Constitution one more time with an EO on immigration.
Get’s pubs off the hook with passing a immigration law with a pathway for citizenship and makes Obama look like the lawless traitor he appears to be.
They will never be allowed to vote.
Obama deserves everything he gets for trying to “work with Republicans.”
They fucked him, didn’t they.
He must like it.
They don’t call him bathhouse barry for nuttin.
I want to see Obama do this because millions of angry Americans will come out and storm into the homes and offices of pro illegal politicians and beat them to a pulp. They deserve to have their lawless corrupt rogue asses kicked. And those LaRaza offices … hahahaha …. betcha they their share of the widespread violence. Homeland and NSA and the FBI … nothing they can do to control MILLIONS Of revolting Americans … hahahaha!
Yawn!!!!! Only thing gonna happen is the RINO patrol is gonna stick it to you and give them amnesty. And our RINO Senator will be leading the parade.
And I’m going to enjoy the Baggers’ impotent howling and hollow threats.
One can’t help but enjoy the hyperbolic list of offenses claimed by Republicans, frustrated in evil.
Does ANYONE in this country need rights to vote? Heck, you don’t even have to show an ID.
Why do you teanuts continue to spread that garbage. You have to register to vote. You have to produce proof of identity and right to vote at that time. The new voter id laws are bout having to show it again at the polls.
Actually – you don’t: if you download, print, complete and return this form: http://www.scvotes.org/files/VR_Blank_Form.pdf
you will be registered to vote without ever proving that you really exist.
Well, tell Nimrata to fix it.
What and invoke the wrath of the “fraud deniers”, the “you’re a disenfranchisers”, the NAACP and SC Blues?!?
“What and invoke the wrath of the “fraud deniers”, the “you’re a disenfranchisers”, the NAACP and SC Blues?!?”
Gollee – I am so flattered!
Colonel – Of course you have zero proof – zilch – of any massive voter ID fraud that will be remedied by these voter ID laws – if you have it please provide it.
And how does limiting early voting and not allowing votes on Sunday stop voter ID fraud??
And speaking of invoking someone’s wrath, according to you the person who is most afraid of invoking someone’s wrath is spineless Chief Justice Roberts who is literally scared to death of President Obama – have I got that about right?
Spot on there SC. Speaking of proof there SC, where’s the evidence of widespread disenfranchisement now that the law requires an ID?
“Speaking of proof there SC, where’s . . .”
So in other words, we need a law to prevent something that does not exist, huh?
Wonder why it is so partisan? Wonder why the Republicans were on a mission to get these enacted in so many states, especially the states that they lost in the last election?
Maybe the results of the mid-terms are the proof of the disenfranchisement?
You wish, there were fewer than 100 contested ballots in Richland County
Its basically a way to force congress to act. We have a problem that needs to be dealt with. Congress refuses to deal with it. They can solve the problem easy. Just pass an immigration reform bill. Isn’t this the same thing Ronnie Ray Gun did? Even a lot of Conservatives want one that allows some people to stay in the US and ultimately become citizens.
Besides the Republicans can just round them all up starting in 2017 and send the back to Mexico after they build that 2000 mile long fence.
Shh! You can’t mention inconvenient truths about Saint Reagan. He never raised taxes! He never passed amnesty! He never made bipartisan compromises!
Different times AND the American people trusted Reagan to do what was best for this country.
Nobody trusts Obama anymore to defend this nation or secure it’s borders.
Maybe and look where trusting Reagan got them. Trickle down economics that has been destroying the middle class for three decades.
And the never ending “War on Drugs”.
“Shh! You can’t mention inconvenient truths about Saint Reagan”
He never said “AIDS” for the first seven years as POTUS.
He wanted you queers to stop spreading this with your perverted lifestyles.
“He wanted you queers to stop spreading this with your perverted lifestyles.”
Do you have any real teeth in your mouth? Just curious.
…the prurient fascination with the mechanics of gay sex, and the substitution of hate of others for achievement and personal self-esteem seem to be the core belief system of the new right.
He also thought Roots was a good movie but wasn’t sure why all the victims had to be black and the bad guys had to be white. #truth
You’re an idiot. Try reading the United State Code or even Corpus Juris Secundum. The immigration laws and process under the same is perfect. It just needs to be OBEYED!!!!!!!!!!
I doubt you have ever read the US Code in your life. Just to show me I am wrong, why don’t you tell me which code sections you are referring to.
YOU are full of shit. The dems lost control of the US Senate because of their PRO amnesty and PRO illegal position. The laws we have on the books regarding immigration are perfect. The problem is the outright refusal by government entities and Obama to OBEY these laws that are THE PEOPLE’S LAWS. So take your bullshit that Congress refuses to deal “with it” and shove up your ass, chump.
You are correct.Public opinion shifted on Obama when he allowed thousands of men, women and children to cross this border illegally in the spring/summer.
An EO on immigration will get him impeached.The Republicans are down playing that talk but they know the public would support such action.
Impeached? Oh yeah, the RINOs want to go down that path. And pigs fly. They’ll do nothing, threaten to add it to their never-been-filed lawsuit and then silently pass amnesty in the House and Senate. Jeb is watching.
You have to have the public will for impeachment. The American people used these mid-terms to try and stop this tyrant.
Apparently he didn’t get the message.Impeachment is the only option.
Dreaming, nothing more than dreaming……….
Remember – Jeb is watching.
No, this isn’t what Ray Gun did. But I wouldn’t expect a loony liberal to understand the facts. Ray Gun did NOT sign an EO and grant amnesty by executive fiat against the will of the people, as Barry Soetoro apparently plans to do. Ray Gun actually signed a bill which passed through Congress on a bipartisan basis with broad public support. The “problem” today is one of a lack of enforcement of the borders, which the Barry Soetoro administration has perpetuating and encouraged on purpose since day one. If there is a “problem” it is one of their making.
Hey, if the Republicans want to build the wall, then allocate the money for it. It will not take supermajority come January 1. I also doubt Obama would veto it. So if its enforcement you want, allocate the money to do it.
Make them become citizens so they will stop F-ing voting.
Comment of the day +1,000!
“Make them become citizens so they will stop F-ing voting.”
Is that how the Republicans scored that “landslide”? I heard there was some funny stuff going on . . .
Aww, now SCBlues is going to read your comment and soil his pink thong.
Man, I can just imagine the conversation and the local Golden Corral after this.
You mean an amnesty like the 1986 Simpson-Mazzoli Act? Oh, but that was okay because those three million illegal immigrants were amnestied by Saint Ronnie.
Obama is going to be impeached … Yeahhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! …. Moochelle and the kids might as well start packing. They will get an eviction notice very soon after the GOP takes over the Senate. And if the Senate refuses to remove Obama, God can not save them from the revolting heavily armed masses.
Obummer wants these illegals to do jobs Americans won’t do : Vote Democrat. Got it now ?
Just ’cause your Mama dropped you out her cunt on American soil,don’t mean shit.
Immigration is nothing new,ye brilliant students of American history.There’s a whole lot of honkies,I’d rather see deported,most of whom could not pass the American Citizenship Test.This debate has gone on before any of us were alive.Do you even know where YOU are from?
‘If they can get here,they have God’s right to come.”-Herman Melville
Obama finally grows a pair, and it’s over this issue? Every time the Democrats prioritize, it always make me cringe. Pick the most divisive issue out there and make that your priority instead of issues almost every American could support, like breaking up the big banks.
Some suspect that he’s grown a pair over a number of issues the GOPers are going to hate.
Collect a yearly corporate recession profit tax, take a one-time surfeit tax for those whose net worth exceeds $4M, and make Juneteenth a permanent paid holiday.
Rename Main Street in every town and borough in the United States to Obama Street, legalize marijuana, force the Catholic Church to make masturbation a sacrament, legalize nakedness, give amnesty to all current non-violent criminals in federal penitentiaries except white-collar theft, tax-evasion and embezzlement, require condom machines in all schools teaching middle-school and higher, provide free std exams and birth control for every female over the age of 13, provide free education up to graduate degrees in any technical field, grant amnesty to all illegal immigrants and issue them social security numbers and photo ids, provide work visa kiosks at the border, raise the minimum wage to 20 dollars an hour, establish term limits, confer permanent status to Obama’s presidency, declare martial law, set up free adderall dispensing machines at all public schools, prohibit private school, create a government sponsored “Manhattan Project” paying top dollar for genius class employees to work on atomic energy plants in the ocean to convert sea water to liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen, and create distribution pipelines and safe delivery infrastructure, create a government funded car company to create cars that run on hydrogen and oxygen and emit water – and then outlaw the use of fossil fuels, forbid anyone older than 60 to hold public office, change the dollar from being created by borrowing it into existence to intrinsic value set by how much bread, milk, and fuel it will buy, issue red dollars, and declare green money worthless, make east Jerusalem the capital of Palestine, and make it the 51st state, depose the Saudi dictatorship, nuke N. Korea, join with China in establishing a one-world government, purge the CIA and the FBI, make lawn darts and fireworks legal again, set up detention centers in every city to house and re-educate bullies, and children who refuse to share, test for, identify, and execute racists, psychopaths and sociopaths, establish pornography as part of the 4th estate, make child molestation a crime, punishable by citizen execution, permanent incarceration without parole for possession of child porn, eliminate speed limits, provide free chess classes, free health care, and limit personal wealth to 4 million dollars.
A very ambitious plan. Since Michelle Obama is really a man that just looks like a gorilla, how bout free banana’s for the occupants of the bLack House and we go back to The Three Fifths Compromise?
Stay on track – this is about Obama giving protection to 5.5 million hard-working undocumented immigrants who contribute to their communities, open small businesses, but unfortunately for you, they are tan skinned and you don’t like them. Actually Michelle is a pretty danged good liking woman. And she does more for vets than you ever will. And bananas are good for you – two a day are packed with nutrition. But then I guess you prefer pork rinds?
OK. How about you go in a black neighborhood and recite what you said instead of behind a computer screen? I promise to buy the bananas if you do, deal??
Since Michelle Obama is really a man that just looks like a gorilla
You do realize the window you’re looking out of, we see into as well, don’t you?
Do the Baggers and their fellow travelers gnash their (remaining or false) teeth when they see a sign in Spanish or have to “push #1* for English” or hear Spanish spoken in the grocery store?
*I suppose one could really goad them by having English #2.
I am always amazed why when every president for the last 100 years or so has never been under attack as much as Obama for this very action of amnesty. I may have always opposed amnesty, but this bullsh*t of attacking Obama based upon being black or what ever the reason is a load. I am against amnesty because my family saved for a decade to move here legally then had to take government courses and pass tests to have the right to get citizenship. I have argued because I do not believe we should reward breaking the laws, as we keep doing for illegal immigrants, bank executives, CEOs, Lobbyists, and politicians.