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National GOP Ad Blasts Vincent Sheheen

DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL NOMINEE POPPED ON WOMEN’S ISSUES  The Republican Governors’ Association has launched a new television advertisement blasting South Carolina Democratic gubernatorial nominee Vincent Sheheen. The ad centers around Sheheen’s work as a defense attorney on behalf of criminals charged with both violent and sex-related crimes – including sex crimes…

DEMOCRATIC GUBERNATORIAL NOMINEE POPPED ON WOMEN’S ISSUES 

The Republican Governors’ Association has launched a new television advertisement blasting South Carolina Democratic gubernatorial nominee Vincent Sheheen.

The ad centers around Sheheen’s work as a defense attorney on behalf of criminals charged with both violent and sex-related crimes – including sex crimes against minors.

And guess what … the story that provides the backdrop for this hit broke exclusively on FITS earlier this month.

Hmmmmm …

“Sheheen defended violent criminals who abused women and went to work setting them free,” the ad’s female narrator states. “So next time Sheheen says he’ll protect women from violent criminals, ask him: What about the ones who paid him?”

“Vincent Sheheen protects criminals. Not us,” the narrator concludes.

Here’s the spot …

(Click to play)

“Actions speak louder than words, and the reality of Vincent Sheheen’s background as a trial lawyer tells a vastly different story than what he has offered up on the trail so far,” RGA Communications Director Gail Gitcho said in a statement accompanying the release of the ad. “As he attempts to court voters with ‘tough on crime’ and ‘defender of women’ rhetoric, they should remember Vincent Sheheen has fought for the very same criminals he now decries, not for South Carolina.”

Sheheen’s campaign

“As a former prosecutor, Vincent has seen what families and victims go through and he has worked with law enforcement to hold criminals accountable and achieve justice,” Sheheen’s campaign manager Andrew Whalen said. “This dishonest ad by Nikki Haley’s D.C. friends is a disgusting and desperate attempt to distract from children being abused and dying because of the reckless leadership at Haley’s Department of Social Services.”

Missed that scandal? We’ve got the latest (HERE and HERE).

“Nikki Haley is playing politics with the lives of children and refuses to hold her administration accountable for these totally preventable tragedies,” Whalen added. “The fact that Haley’s supporters are willing to do almost anything to distract from the fatal outcomes of her failed leadership says all we need to know about Nikki Haley.”

Details on the size and placement of the GOP advertising buy were not immediately available, but the national party has vowed to spend big money to keep Haley in office.

After nearly rebounding from a 21-point deficit against Haley in 2010, Sheheen has been running an abysmal race this go-round. Most notably, he’s failed to find a way to get to the right of the increasingly liberal Haley on the bread and butter fiscal issues voters care about.

In addition to Haley and Sheheen, fiscally conservative Libertarian Steve French will also be on the ballot in November.

French’s campaign has criticized both candidates over their failure to protect children, saying “protecting the innocent is one of the few things Steve thinks the government should do and the state is failing.”

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98 comments

Inciteful April 21, 2014 at 11:11 am

If Shaheen is so good at getting criminals off, Maybe Nikki should hire him.

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a face in the crowd April 21, 2014 at 11:16 am

The party of fear.

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CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 11:22 am

This is a total cheap shot at Sheheen. I am far from a fan, though I may haltingly wind up voting for him as a lesser of evils this time, but a lawyer’s job is to protect the interests of his client. If Sheheen (or any other lawyer) is hired by someone to represent their interests, then his job is to protect them.

Cheap shot ads such as this just make me allthemore inclined to vote for Sheheen rather than his most formidable opponent.

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GrandTango April 21, 2014 at 11:25 am

Greedy liberal attorney’s have brainwashed the Dumb@$$#$ like you into believing killing women is OK, if they can get away w/ it for you…

You are FILTH, Trash and Vermin to represent Killers and woman abusers, when you know they did it…unless they are pleading guilty…

Bill Clinton may be a god to you…but he is dirt to decent Americans…Beating, or killing a woman, is NEVER cool..no matter what the democrat party feeds your stupid @$$…

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CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 11:31 am

Dipshit, I despise the Clintons, the Bushes, and others who have sold this country down the river.

If you have a problem with our adversarial court system, you may wish to take it up with those “filthy, trashy, vermin” who created it, our Founding Fathers.

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GrandTango April 21, 2014 at 11:36 am

Funny that you are judging others, yet you speak up for Woman-beaters and pedophiles…and against the moral…

Strange set of values, you moral-less liberal-Tarians live by…Wherever you’re in charge, I don’t want to be there…Sounds like H#!!…

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Mobile Holmes April 21, 2014 at 11:40 am

? How about reading comprehension?

FudgePackerAtChocolateMonkey April 21, 2014 at 11:43 am

You love it when I slap you around. I’ve seen how it makes your little pencil dick get harder right after I do so quitcherbitchin.

notasmidgen April 21, 2014 at 12:30 pm

You 300lb piece of horse manure. Stick that cane right up your cross-dressing , burlesque loving barn you sit on 24/7!

FudgePackerAtChocolateMonkey April 21, 2014 at 12:34 pm

Do we know each other? I must have put some monkey meat to your ass sometime in the past.

Deo Vindice SC April 21, 2014 at 12:21 pm

You’re already there stupid.

Jay Ellington April 21, 2014 at 11:34 am

The shot might be cheap, but it was a direct hit. I don’t want someone complicit in freeing violent criminals representing South Carolina.

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CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 11:35 am

So Jay, if you are accused of a crime, particularly one that is infamous, you don’t want your attorney, who you are paying to represent you, to do his best to get you acquitted or at least get you the least time possible? Are you serious?

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GrandTango April 21, 2014 at 11:40 am

Just don’t beat a woman…Dude and you don’t have to worry…

You think child-molesting and murder are OK, if you can find some Greedy Trial Lawyer to get the creeps off…Shame on you…you are disgusting…

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FudgePackerAtChocolateMonkey April 21, 2014 at 11:42 am

Don’t go feeling all put upon because I slap your bitch ass around from time to time. You know you enjoy the makeup sex better cause you told me you do many times.

notasmidgen April 21, 2014 at 12:25 pm

How is everything in Murrels Inlet? Walked out on any bar tabs lately?

FudgePackerAtChocolateMonkey April 21, 2014 at 12:33 pm

No. I can’t say that I ever have.

GrandTango April 21, 2014 at 5:07 pm

Make-up time tonight 8:30pm James R. Metts boat landing. Hot greasy dirty make-up $3x. Be there you Fu@#3r or be square. I’m gonna go all Jerry Sandusky on your ass!

FudgePackerAtChocolateMonkey May 20, 2014 at 7:37 pm

That’s the way I like it honey!

CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 11:53 am

I don’t, GT. Where did I say child molesting and murder are OK? Do you have any idea just how easy it is to get a CDV charge on you in SC, even if you did absolutely nothing? Do you have any idea how many women manipulate the system to get back at a boyfriend or husband they are pissed off at, by screaming “CDV”? I have been witness to quite a bit of those things and before you ask, NO, I was not one of the abusive or accused abusers. If she gets pissed off because she thinks you have been screwing around on her, all she has to do is call 911 and point to a bruise she got when she bumped into the door earlier and voila, the cops take your butt to jail. In a lot of cases, the cops see through the bullshit, but state law COMPELS them to arrest you and take you to jail. Ask most cops, if you can get them to speak candidly and without fear of it coming back to hurt their career, and they will tell you that their worst enemy in CDV cases 99% of the time is the woman who will lie, fail to show up for court, or anything else she can do to short-circuit the CDV case because she was quick to call 911 when she was pissed off with him, but now that she figured out that he is her meal ticket and they have made up, she doesn’t want anything done to him. They will choose a bad boy because they think its cute to have one, but when they cannot control him, they want the police to do it for them, only they will not back up the cops when it is time to go to court. For the ones who use the police and the system as a tool to get revenge on their spouse or boyfriend, he better have a good attorney or he will pay for pissing her off for the rest of his life.

GrandTango April 21, 2014 at 12:27 pm

Uh Oh…I can tell how CIC rolls wid his girlz…Hey Bro: Just don’t lie to da sista…Handle Yo’ Bidness…and you won’t have to get the po’lise involved…
That’s the thing w/ Liberals and Liberal-Tarians…You want all this “freedom” and all you end up doing is F*#kin your life up so bad, I have to pay for intervention…
The laws are to save you from yourself…so it’s no wander we don’t won’t to let you be in charge of more. We cannot afford what you are costing society with your irresponsibility, now…

CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 12:51 pm

At least I do roll with the girls and not the boys as you apparently do with the gay monkey dude. That is why you don’t care about false accusations of CDV. SC does not recognize violence between homosexual couples as Criminal Domestic Violence. Now I understand.

Jay Ellington April 21, 2014 at 12:38 pm

You’re conflating the possibility that one might be maliciously accused of a violent act, with actual dangerous elements that Vincent Sheheen has successfully represented and gotten minimal punishment. People that should be locked away for a long time. Do we need to go through Isiah Outten’s illustrious criminal career? This is not a choir boy falsely accused.

CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 12:42 pm

Bottom line, Jay; our system of justice provides for representation by an attorney for criminal offenses. This is not conditional upon whether we believe the accused to be guilty or innocent, but that he or she is accused and is therefore entitled to legal representation. If you have a problem with the sentence or lack of sentence handed out, your anger would more appropriately be directed to the judge or the prosecutor who allowed for that to happen, NOT the attorney who is doing his job to the best of his ability.

Jay Ellington April 21, 2014 at 12:45 pm

I’m not angry at him, unless one of these cretins that he’s freed harms one of my children, I would just never vote for someone willing to got to bat for these worthless individuals. No matter if it’s his “job” or not. Like the element that he’s protected in the past, he could have chosen a different path.

CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 12:46 pm

Kind of like my friend who was once a skin diver for Roto-Rooter once said, “it’s a dirty job, but somebody’s gotta do it.”

Jay Ellington April 21, 2014 at 12:48 pm

Freeing clogged toilets is actually a worthy cause, freeing criminals is not.

soxinsc April 24, 2014 at 9:56 am

Then your anger would be misplaced. As a defense attorney he can’t free anyone. All he can do is represent the defendant and fight for his/her best interests. The prosecutor is the one responsible for fighting for the victim’s best interests. If he successfully convinces a judge and prosecutor that a minimal sentence is best, then he has done his job. If he has argued the case well and his client is sentenced to life without parole, he has done his job here too.

A defense attorney who puts the victim’s interests ahead of his or her client is negligent and certainly not someone I would want representing me at any level.

Jay Ellington April 24, 2014 at 11:45 am

Yes, I understand how the system works.

Jeff April 21, 2014 at 11:38 pm

99% is quite high. Your point is well made nonetheless.

My issue with this Ad is that they make Sheheen seem like he is OKAY with whatever charges he defended against.

Deo Vindice SC April 21, 2014 at 12:18 pm

Comming from someone who agrees with war crimminals, makes no sense to me.

Jay Ellington April 21, 2014 at 12:29 pm

How about avoiding situations where you might be accused of such?

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CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 12:30 pm

That sounds good in theory. In practice, in the real world, things don’t always work out that way. I have never been accused of such, but that potential is always there for any of us, perhaps one day when we least expect it. Check out my lengthier posts to GT, elsewhere on here.

Squishy123 April 21, 2014 at 2:44 pm

What if you’re guilty of all charges filed against you? Does it make it right because you paid an attorney to have charges dropped?

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CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 3:03 pm

I guess that depends on which side of the fence you happen to be on at the moment, Squishy. What was that bit of doctrine regarding our legal system about it being better to let a hundred guilty men go free than to hang one innocent man?

Squishy123 April 21, 2014 at 5:10 pm

What does that mean? You’re saying that it’s okay for a guilty man to go free if he hires the right lawyer and that it’s okay if the lawyer spends time freeing a guilty man. And you wonder why lawyers are thought of as being lower than used car salesmen.

easterndumbfuckastan April 21, 2014 at 5:36 pm

Yep, it’s okay. It’s pretty much the basis of our legal system. Everyone is entitled to representation and the lawyers are obligated to do their best to obtain a positive outcome for their clients. That’s how the system works, if you don’t like it move to Iran.

In criminal law, Blackstone’s formulation (also known as Blackstone’s ratio or the Blackstone ratio) is the principle that:

“It is better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer”,

All presumptive evidence of felony should be admitted cautiously; for the law holds it better that ten guilty persons escape, than that one innocent party suffer.

The below is quoted from Wikipedia

Alternative viewpoints
More authoritarian personalities are supposed to have taken the opposite view; Bismarck is believed to have stated that “it is better that ten innocent men suffer than one guilty man escape; and Pol Pot made similar remarks.

Bismark and Pol Pot, people I’ve always wanted to be in agreement with.

Deo Vindice SC April 21, 2014 at 5:46 pm

Ok, you popped my brain. Point ?

easterndumbfuckastan April 21, 2014 at 7:58 pm

Reference the below.

Squishy123 CorruptionInColumbia • 3 hours ago

What does that mean? You’re saying that it’s okay for a guilty man to go free if he hires the right lawyer and that it’s okay if the lawyer spends time freeing a guilty man. And you wonder why lawyers are thought of as being lower than used car salesmen.

CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 5:36 pm

As a whole, I am not a huge fan of lawyers, in general. That said, when you really need one, you will be damn glad to get one who fights for you and your interests, whether it is a criminal, civil, or divorce case. Again, one who does his or her job and fights for their client, I cannot demean for doing their job.

Squishy123 April 21, 2014 at 7:29 pm

So, taken this in context, if a person molests a child, you’ll have nothing but the utmost respect the lawyer for just doing his job of defending the child molester…

CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 7:54 pm

I can make an educated guess as to what they were teaching in civics class the week you (and several others on here) were home from school, sick with the flu.

The lawyer who defends his or her client to the best of their ability is doing their job, which is not a damnable thing. Your anger, disdain, contempt, or whatever should be reserved for the prosecutor who accepted such a light sentence as part of a plea bargain or for the judge who gave their stamp of approval, NOT the attorney who is doing what the are supposed to be doing.

easterndumbfuckastan April 21, 2014 at 8:13 pm

Let’s bring up child molestation, the most emotional argument you can bring up. This is right up there with accusing anyone you disagree with of being a Nazi. In other words you’ve lost your argument and have nothing left.

As I’ve said before, I don’t like Sheheen as a candidate, but it’s complete hubris to attack him because of his profession. Criminal Defense Attorneys are necessary to the proper functioning of our justice system. Innocent until proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.

Godwin’s law: As an online discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Nazis or Hitler approaches 1

Corollary One: Once such a comparison is made, the thread is finished and whoever mentioned the Nazis has automatically lost whatever debate was in progress.

Easterndumbfuck’s Corollary to Corollary One: Invoking what if it was your child, mother, father, dog, cat, sister, brother, aunt, or uncle; Invoking child molesters, anal rapists, communists, Clemson, Carolina, Alabama, or Aubrun when not germane to the conversation allows one to claim a win based on the principle of Corollary One.

Squishy123 April 21, 2014 at 7:32 pm

I’m a defense attorney’s nightmare anytime I serve on jury duty, they might as well just let me mail my guilty verdict in.

As a side note, only served on DUI cases.

truthmonger April 21, 2014 at 9:26 pm

Paying lawyers doesn’t mean charges get dropped. Bad cases cause charges to be dropped. Good cops don’t make bad cases… but juries have been known to make some assinine decisions.

GrandTango April 21, 2014 at 11:39 am

Yours is a very pertinent assessment.
If you’ve ever seen a woman, after some animal has beaten her…you’ll respond to a man who defends that kind of person…There are no excuses..and certainly not Greed…

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CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 12:26 pm

Got no use for true, “wife beaters”. They are out there and if their victims shot every damn one of them, I would be fine with that. Unfortunately, not every man accused of CDV is a wife beater. A lot of women use the police and the system to punish a spouse or live-in boyfriend they believe is “cheating” on them.
All it takes is a little bruise or red mark on her arm or anywhere else, and off to jail he goes. That is SC law. I believe our system of justice provides for “innocent until proven guilty” and also for representation by an attorney.

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John April 21, 2014 at 1:26 pm

Will Folks is well aware of how little it takes to get accused of domestic violence. Waiting for him to chime in.

rebellozit April 21, 2014 at 12:35 pm

Yes indeed.Wonder if Sheheen-Colbert Jr.is refusing toooo say the Pledge of Allegiance? :-)

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John April 21, 2014 at 1:33 pm

If he was complicit in helping a bank hide millions of assets or in helping some wealthy person get off on a DUI charge or in bringing an overinflated claim for a personal injury or in sticking it to some bitch in a divorce, would you want him representing South Carolina? I suppose the answer is just not to have attorneys as leaders, because pretty much any attorney at some point or another has represented an unpopular client or taken an unpopular position in a case.

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Jay Ellington April 21, 2014 at 1:55 pm

Sounds like a wonderful idea.

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Deo Vindice SC April 21, 2014 at 4:57 pm

Nikki’s big sale on the last election is still in the minds with people of SC. Looks like another double dose this time around. So you agree with Nikki’s handling of the state?

truthmonger April 21, 2014 at 9:24 pm

Twenty years as a cop, and I have NO issue with criminal defense lawyers. If anything, a good defense lawyer makes my job easier, and often results in guilty pleas rather than expensive, time- consuming trials to reach the same results. Sorry, telling me Sheheen does his job right only makes me that much more sure he’s better than Darlin’ Nikki.

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Squishy123 April 21, 2014 at 2:42 pm

So it’s only wrong because he was paid to represent these people? What if they didn’t fill his pockets, would he then not have represented them? A lawyer represents for one reason… money. Nobody forced him to represent these people, this was his decision alone.

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david April 23, 2014 at 10:31 pm

I agree! If nothing else, he’s proven to be good at his job. Heaven forbid hailey understand what that’s like.

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GrandTango April 21, 2014 at 11:23 am

Democrat policy has done more to hurt women, than any political group since Obama’s Sharia Party and the Muslim Brotherhood……

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Limpdick, Akin, & Abbott April 21, 2014 at 11:34 am

Damn, you’re REALLY reaching today. I don’t see Democrats calling women whores, telling a woman her body will shut down a rape baby, that women are selfish for getting educated while being a single mother…

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Just One Fucking Day... April 21, 2014 at 11:45 am

Well, sorry to be off topic…ah, fuck it, Tango just hijacked another post, so no need to read any comments now…

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GrandTango April 21, 2014 at 11:46 am

Problem is: I defined what you, the democrats, the liberal-tarians and Sheheen are, based on FITS’ post…

That is what REALLY P!$$#$ you off…Hahahaha…Admit it…LMAO….

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GrandTango April 21, 2014 at 11:45 am

Excellent strategy. Haley is a female, so she has the moral high ground against Sheheen.

And: For those stupid enough to try to defend Sheheen (Pootlian, and the Dumb@$$#$at the democrat party) it makes them (the party of Bill Clinton) look like Woman beaters…

And even the Liberal-Tarians will look stupid trying to defend Sheheen…and the Liberal-Tarians are already irrelevant enough…They don’t need any more bad pub…

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Deo Vindice SC April 21, 2014 at 12:11 pm

I agree with Corrupt. Anyone here that thinks Nikki Haley is for the people of South Carolina are, 1 – Educated in SC. 2 – Dumber than owl shit.

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Guest April 21, 2014 at 12:14 pm

A lot of these domestic abuse cases boil down to he said / she said arguments. My X slut (and yes – I eventually busted the slut/whore committing adultery with SIX different men – but at least she got a good case of genital herpes for her acts) loudly noted to neighbors and folks at church that my children were scared of me and I physically and mentally abused both them and her (all complete lies in her decrepit mind to destroy me).
Fortunately, the local sheriff’s deputy in charge of the investigation of her charges asked her about the adultery charges and the dumbass actually admitted to having a special friend. He also caught her going back and changing medical records. And amazingly, there was an MD here in Columbia that was dumb enough to marry that slut. I was advised by my attorney to start recording ALL conversations between me and her – she even started showing up with bruises and I would ask her where they came from (on tape) and she noted she did not know.
This X slut/whore wanted to destroy me and get me kicked out of the house that I had paid for. Luckily for me, my attorney told me that I did not have to move out and if the slut/whore wanted a divorce, she would have to move out (otherwise, if I moved out, I would essentially lose the house).
It would be interesting to see how many of these cases that Sheheen had were paid clients and how many were based on Court appointed cases.
Perhaps the man told the bitch to Fuck Off and Die (is that a threat to kill the bitch) – hardly – they just want the bitch to go away and they do not care how.
When the Sheriff’s Deputy determined that the charges were false, I asked him to press charges against her and they refused noting that they would clog up the local courts with all of the false domestic abuse charges that they record.
So would I be happy with Sheheen or any other attorney representing my best interests in this type of trumped up and false charges. ABSOLUTELY.
And that MD that married the slut will as well when he has had enough of her crap.

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CorruptionInColumbia April 21, 2014 at 12:44 pm

It does happen!

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Jay Ellington April 21, 2014 at 2:00 pm

Just one of the pieces of shit Sheheen has gone to bat for…

Isiah Outten

In the fall of 1999, Isiah Outten was arrested for disturbing a school; contributing to the delinquency of a minor and criminal sexual conduct with a minor 2nd degree.

Description of Offense from Kershaw County Sheriff’s Department:

Disturbing School: That Isiah Junior Outten did in Kershaw County on or about October 13, 1999, willfully disturb a school, to wit: the defendant fought with another in the rear parking lot at Camden High School.

Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor: That on November 13, 1999 between 8:50PM. and 11:00 PM. the defendant Isiah Outten Jr. did knowingly and willfully allow or give a child (A.J. and B.C.) some Icehouse beer and some marijuana in which he engaged her to be involved in a violation of the law and did so deport himself as to willfully injure or endanger her morals or health or the morals or health of others. This incident took place in the Pickett Thomas Acres Camden. In Kershaw County South Carolina. Witnesses and statements to prove the same.

The defendant Isiah Junior Outten did open the door to a 1988 white in color jeep Cherokee SC tag 816-EED, while at 506 DeKalb St. within the city limits of Camden, and invited minor children (A.J. and B.C.), into the vehicle to leave the area without the children’s parents’ permission, with the intent to commit a crime therein. Investigation by the Camden Police Department, statement to prove the same.

Criminal Sexual Conduct with a Minor 2nd Degree: That on November 13, 1999 between 8:50PM. And 11:00PM. the defendant Isiah Outten Jr. did engage in sexual battery by having sexual intercourse with a child (A.J.), the victim between eleven and fourteen years old, and the defendant more than three years older than her. This incident took place in the woods in Pickett Thomas Acres Camden, in Kershaw County South Carolina. Witnesses and statements to prove the same.

On January 18, 2000, with Vincent Sheheen named as his defense attorney Outten pled guilty to disturbing school; contributing to the delinquency of a minor and criminal sexual conduct with a minor 2nd degree.

· Outten was sentenced to 10 years time.

· Outten’s sentence was negotiated to 38 days time already served and 5 years probation.

Outten was arrested multiple times while still on probation, including but not limited to:

· On May 28, 2002, for contributing to the delinquency of a minor by allowing her to have beer.

· Outten was arrested in a hotel room with a thirteen year old female, fourteen year old female and sixteen year old female

· On August 31, 2002 for public disorderly conduct.

· Outten was arrested in a hotel room with a 14 year old juvenile and alcohol present.

· On October 23, 2002 for failure to register address as a sex offender.

· On February 19, 2003, for possession of alcohol by a minor.

· On March 26, 2003, for being found in the possession of an altered urine sample with the attempt to defraud a drug test.

· On June 16, 2004, for possession of cocaine within proximity of a school in Lexington County.

· On February 23, 2005, for assault and battery.

In 2006 Outten again pled guilty to and sex offender registry violation, fail to register and manufacture, distribution, etc. of cocaine base (Kershaw County Fifth Judicial Circuit Public Index, publicindex.sccourts.org/kershaw/publicindex/, Accessed 11/16/13)

In 2008, Outten was featured on WIS’ Midlands’ Most Wanted list after being accused of hitting a man in the face with a crowbar. “West Columbia police say Isiah Outten has turned himself in. He is accused of a hitting a man in the face with a crowbar in November. Police say Outten agreed to turn himself in right after the incident, but did not do it until after he was featured on the Midlands’ Most Wanted.” (“Isiah Outten,” WIS, Accessed 11/26/13)

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ThreePalms April 21, 2014 at 2:35 pm

Who was the prosecuting attorney that agreed with the punishment of time served and 5 years probation in the case you describe above? This is the person toward whom your disgust should be directed. Perhaps you, or the record, may have omited pertinent information that could illuminate why the initial punishment was so light? Or have simply concluded that Mr. Sheheen is just that great of a defense attorney?

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guest April 21, 2014 at 3:39 pm

I can almost bet that Sheheen represented this POS because he was a the court appointed attorney as the public defender. If you look at the public index record for Kershaw County for him, I saw where he had 3 different attorneys. So when your number gets picked, you have to do your duty (I believe as a Court appointed attorney). Again as I noted above, it all comes down to did Sheheen actually get paid to defend this POS and also looking at his record, this was just the first of numerous charges against Outten.

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Jay Ellington April 21, 2014 at 3:58 pm

No doubt, but again, Sheheen knew the type of people he would be representing when he signed up. Says a lot about his own character and morality.

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Guest April 21, 2014 at 7:12 pm

It does not – when you are licensed to practice a certain area of law and if you want to continue to practice, when your number is drawn, you are required to represent – actually, I think by him choosing to represent this guy and represent him as best he can says a lot as well. Let me assure you that I am NOT any type of fan of attorneys. But at the same time, there is not much of a difference between at least Sheheen or Haley – what I have learned from adulterous sluts is that they are massive liars – even my former sister in law labeled my X as probably one of the best liars east of the Mississippi River. Do I watch Fox News – yes – Do I watch MSNBC – yes – why both – because the truth is somewhere in between their babble. AND THE SOONER that the 99% or Tea Party figure that out and get rid of absolutely every incumbent, the better off we will all be. TERM LIMITS at every level (but us “common” folk in SC cannot even do a petition to the ballot to put it to a vote – the same as most southern states) – but we continue to be satisfied with our Masters feeding off of us at every turn. Yes – SC and most southern states abolished slavery long ago, but it still remains with just a different ruling class. Shame on ALL of us for not recognizing that.

Guest 2 April 23, 2014 at 2:10 pm

You aren’t licensed to practice a certain type of law. You are licensed to practice law. Any attorney who represents at least three criminal defendants a year can be picked to defend someone accused of a crime. I don’t know if Vincent Sheheen was the court appointed attorney or if he was paid because I don’t care. Everyone accused of a crime has the right to counsel under the Sixth Amendment. When Vincent Sheheen was sworn into the South Carolina bar, he pledged to protect and defend the Constitution. Representing a criminal defendant is part of protecting and defending the Constitution.

Perhaps Nikki Haley should start focusing on defending her record in office, particularly her DSS scandal.

ReElect Nikki April 21, 2014 at 7:54 pm

Thats the dumbest damn response to an explanation Ive ever heard but,oh well,keep up the good work Ellington,the Governor appreciates it.

Jay Ellington April 22, 2014 at 10:46 am

One constant on Fits News, personal attacks by people with a difference of opinion. These typically take the place of legitimate discussions.

vicupstate April 21, 2014 at 8:48 pm

So basically, you do not support the right to an attorney that is fundamental to our legal system. What do you proposed to put in it’s place?

Deo Vindice SC April 21, 2014 at 5:01 pm

Jay, vote for Nikki. Why spout so much? I do ask you, what has Nikki Haley done for SC?

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ReElect Nikki April 21, 2014 at 7:50 pm

I knew we could count on your support Ellington and the Governor promises to keep working as hard as she can go represent the good conservative folk like.

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Rocky April 21, 2014 at 12:46 pm

Coming out this early with the negatie ads – makes me think the internal poll numbers for Nikki ain’t so good.

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John April 21, 2014 at 1:29 pm

The polls that came out last week gave her a comfortable lead. Of course, the ad and the buy were probably in the works before that.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2014/south_carolina/election_2014_south_carolina_governor

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Rocky April 21, 2014 at 2:02 pm

True.

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vicupstate April 21, 2014 at 2:09 pm

Rassmussen is to pollsters,,what Fox is to news media.
Rocky is right. There are thirty six Governor races, this is the second time RGA has spent money on Haley’s behalf.

There has to be a reason for that, not a good sign for her.

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rebellozit April 21, 2014 at 2:39 pm

lol!! You are one of the same dumbarses that predicted Colbert-Busch was going toooo defeat Sanford and gave us your insane polling predictions everyday!
Sweet Jesus! Has Sheheen hired that incompetent bunch of idiots and college kids that fu$$ed her campaign up.
You got to be the communications director from that debacle?

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vicupstate April 21, 2014 at 4:25 pm

You weren’t posting on here back then. Unless it was as GT or Big T.

BUSTED

rebellozit April 21, 2014 at 8:09 pm

Sure I was.I was ‘undercover’ on a mission from God toooo defeat the abortion loving socialist!
Nice toooo see you are uninformed as always and still supporting socialists for political office.

vicupstate April 21, 2014 at 8:52 pm

Your idiotic posts are the tell-tell sign that you are Grand Tango/Big T.

Haley is sitting on millions yet RGA is spending money on her behalf. All the while, big swing states like Ohio and Florida have incumbents Governors on the ropes. I guess they know Haley isn’t nearly as formidable as their bogus Rasmussen poll shows.

rebellozit April 21, 2014 at 10:10 pm

Kasich is on the ropes in Ohio??????Oh my!!!!!!!!!!!!!! What you been reading or smoking?
Scott race in Fl will be close, however he will win by 3 or 4%.Turnout and Obamascare win it for him.

vicupstate April 22, 2014 at 6:09 am

A poll just out has it tied up.

http://www.scribd.com/doc/218688824/PPP-Ohio-Gubernatorial-Poll-Results-April-2014

Given the uber importance of Ohio in Presidential politics (a MUST win for any Republican), why would the RGA be spending money on Haley unless they were worried?

Mike at the Beach April 21, 2014 at 5:04 pm

Even if those numbers are off well beyond the standard statistical margin of error, Vinnie isn’t looking too good. Of course, it’s April, but still…

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Deo Vindice SC April 21, 2014 at 5:50 pm

You’ll lose either way. Ain’t it grand! Even if Nikki wins, you lose! Way too funny!

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anonymous old lawyer April 21, 2014 at 3:39 pm

When an attorney is a state senator AND a Jean Toal supporter, he is already on third base and on the way home before the game begins. Sheheen is square up Toal’s ass and all the judges know it.

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Jay Ellington April 21, 2014 at 3:59 pm

Glad I already ate lunch.

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jurisdoc April 21, 2014 at 4:13 pm

Tell Vincent to quit being a pussy. If he ain’t got the balls to stand up and say “I protect the damn constitution by representing people ACCUSED of crimes – those that are, by the very nature of our criminal justice system, innocent until proven guilty” then I have no use for him.

Better for a dozen guilty men to go free than one innocent man to go to jail. If you don’t believe that, you’ve never been in that innocent man’s shoes. I’m damn proud of what I do for a living. Tell Haley, and ol puss boy Vincent, to kiss my ass.

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Macbeth April 21, 2014 at 6:16 pm

Haley is on the defense for allowing some 294 children under care of DSS to die during 2013.

Many of these deaths are suspicious and now under investigation.

Complaints against DSS (a gubernatorial cabinet office) account for fully half of all complaints filed with the S.C. Office of Inspector General in 2013.

Methinks Gov. Haley protests too much.

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Pissed off voter April 21, 2014 at 8:05 pm

At least sheheen defended his clients according to the oath he took as an officer of the court.

What can Hailey say about her defending of dss director?

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Rufus April 21, 2014 at 8:08 pm

Amen. She’s a hypocrite with real blood on her hands.

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notasmidgen April 21, 2014 at 8:13 pm

A classic.Smirks replying to himself..

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Thomas April 22, 2014 at 2:20 am

Governor Haley for 2014!

Governor Haley for South Carolina!

Governor Haley for 4 More Years!

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Horry's lonely liberal April 23, 2014 at 9:29 am

SCOTUS Chief Justice Roberts defended, on appeal, a Florida man, John Ferguson, convicted of murdering 8 people. Following the logic of the RGA ad, Roberts is not fit to sit on the Supreme Court.

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Paul deHolczer April 23, 2014 at 12:46 pm

President John Adams, before he was President, defended the British troops who were accused of killing five civilians in what became known as the Boston Massacre. The soldiers were arrested and Adams defended them at trial even though his taking the case went against popular opinion. The troops could not find another attorney who was willing to put principle before public opinion. Since when is criminal defense work a disqualification for serving as Governor or President? Never before in our history and not now.

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Godslayer April 23, 2014 at 4:58 pm

This ad is vile and repugnant because it is an attack on the Sixth Amendment right to counsel as well as the entire criminal justice system. Chief Justice John Roberts once represented a defendant in a capital case who admittedly killed 8 people. Does that disqualify him from the Supreme Court?

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david April 23, 2014 at 10:29 pm

I don’t like hailey, but not a big fan of Sheheen either. After seeing the advertisement hailey put out about Sheheen, I’ll never vote for her. That’s a disgusting thing to accuse anyone of being an advocate of abusing women, children or anybody. What a pathetic reach of desperation. Only if Sheheen had represented her would he really be an advocate for criminals. The stupid cunt. Someone should accuse her of being a child molester. Why not? Apparently advertisements don’t have to be true or even related to reality to be ran (much like their terms in office with their rhetoric they spew at the citizens). Damn, politicians have gotten so goddamn stupid. They’re all a bunch of petty money hungry sluts that could care less about the truth or public good. They’d all rather just makeup third grade gossip so their classmates will like them better. I’d rather do a write in vote than to vote for these liars and cheats. How does ANYONE vote for them? Are people seriously buying into their ignorance?

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