RELIGIOUS RIGHT DRAWS BLOOD WITH BOYCOTT OF SCHOOL …
Sources at the University of South Carolina-Upstate tell FITS the school is struggling in response to a boycott from Christian congregations upset with the school’s advancement of pro-homosexual propaganda.
FITS first reported on the religious right’s revulsion in this post … but it now appears as though the angry social conservatives are making real headway.
“(Upstate) churches are telling kids to go elsewhere,” one source familiar with the situation tells FITS.
Is this boycott having an effect on enrollment?
Apparently so …
Additionally, the school is reportedly facing “huge budget issues” as a result of the boycott.
“Layoffs being today,” our source added. “Academic programs being eliminated.”
So … is any of this causing school officials to rethink their controversial offerings? No … in fact next month the school is staging a production of Duncan Sheik’s Spring Awakening, a rock musical that tells the “story of teenagers discovering the inner and outer tumult of sexuality.”
The musical includes several homosexual scenes – which is fine with us (so long as we’re not subsidizing it).
Which brings us to the rub … (no double entendre intended).
This website has consistently argued that forcing taxpayers to pay for pro-gay propaganda – or pro-Christian propaganda – is wrong. In fact we have repeatedly argued government ought to get out of the higher education business altogether – a market politicians never should have entered in the first place.
This is stupid. If you don’t want your kids to learn about the real world and the fact that there are all different kinds of people, then send them to Bob Jones.
Ah, Bob Jones, where they tell sexual assault/rape victims not to report their attackers because it would “hurt the church.”
“Nearly everyone at Bob Jones grew up in a fundamentalist environment,
so if you were abused, your abuser probably came from inside that
bubble, too, which is what happened to me,” she said. “The person who
supposedly counseled me told me if I reported a person like that to the
police, I was damaging the cause of Christ, and I would be responsible
for the abuser going to hell. He said all of my problems were as a
result of my actions in the abuse, which mostly took place before I was
12, and I should just forgive the abuser.”
But at least they aren’t gay, amirite?
Got to love how sexually assaulting someone doesn’t send you to hell, them reporting your assault does, thusly making their actions to blame, not yours.
I don’t see where BJU said you went to hell for reporting them. Way to exaggerate the report.
The person who supposedly counseled me told me if I reported a person like that to the police, I was damaging the cause of Christ, and I would be responsible for the abuser going to hell.
Uh, so the person who abuses you goes to hell? This sounds like they were encouraging her to report him.
Yeah… that’s the impression *I* got! [rolling eyes]
You should see a doc about a prescription for adderall.
Is that what they do in Texas and New Mexico?
What difference would it make?
Are you joking?
Backed into a corner, some people will say any old shit.
Yeah, I bet you know a lot about Bob Jones University. Not a bit prejudiced are you?
aren’t those initials ironic… BJ U?
Where they can learn that humans and dinosaurs lived together at the same time. And, Evolution is just a theory, along side creationism.
The sky is made of cotton candy and the world is a flatten sugar plum.
All valuable knowledge when you go out into the real world.
What is “pro Gay” about a play about homosexuality?
I guess a play about pedophilia would also be cool in your book as long as it’s just about pedophilia and not pro-pedophilia?
I would suspect someone who can’t tell the difference between two consenting adults of the same sex having a romantic/sexual relationship, and an adult having a romantic/sexual relationship with a minor who is incapable of giving consent, and compares the two anyways, is essentially promoting “pro-ignorance” and “pro-bigotry” by comparing the two.
The fact is, it is the same in the minds of some Christians. You have your own standards of right or wrong and so do they. Merely having a play about pedophilia is pro-pedophilia in your mind in the same way have a play about homosexuality is the pro-homosexual in their minds.
The fact is, it is the same in the minds of some Christians. You have your own standards of right or wrong and so do they.
No real difference between following your conscience, and having your conscience dictated to you, I guess.
I agree, which is why sex in general should be taught in this fashion, ALL forms of course:
it shall not be named – we shall only refer to it as “a difference of opinion”
I go to Upstate and I am a theatre major there working for Spring Awakening. We chose this play because it challenges students and we are obviously progressive. We shouldn’t be targeted because of people’s ignorance. They should care about student education. Not discrimination.
At Kent State University, they used bullets.
so you equate sex between two consenting adults with sex between an adult and a child?
I don’t think you thought that out – I’ll just bet you let your taboo reflex type that for you.
I don’t care one way or another. The point is, what is a taboo for you- pedophilia- is not a taboo for many cultures across the world. Same goes for homosexual behavior. It is taboo for some people while for others it is not. You’re sitting on your high horse pretending to be Mr. Tolerant while simultaneously discounting something literally hundreds of millions, if not billions, of people have no problem with.
taboo? Are you nuts? That’s an ethical absolute! anyone who thinks they’re being “objective” by comparing taboos with child molestation is out of their fucking mind!
So you’re intolerant of Indian culture then? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Child_marriage_in_India
Roughly 47% of all girls in India are married by 18.
What are you, a member of NAMBLA?
A discussion about the age a woman can be married isn’t a discussion about child molestation, now is it?
Literally half the books I read for English class in high school were squicky enough to give me nightmares. For instance, one of the books, “Until they Bring the Streetcars Back” involved a man who had incest with his high-school aged daughter, which resulted in a pregnancy, which was brought to full term. The protagonist later finds the corpse of the baby in a freezer.
If you are worried about inappropriate themes in the media used by schools, I suggest looking into the required reading list for public high schools first.
You seem really off your mark today. Is a play about war, pro-war? Is a play about killing a king pro-regicide? Is “The Book of Mormon” pro-Mormon? Is a play about the life of drug addicts pro-addiction? Surly you would not support suppressing controversial art or art which tackles a complicated subject.
I am sure there are plays about pedophilia and incest, and you don’t have to attend them, but do you really want the state suppressing access to such plays by adults, or the performance of such plays by adults.
This article is really dumb, and lowers my opinion of Will Folks intelligence.
I’m not sure not providing state property to perform whatever play you want is “suppressing” controversial art.
So you think the state should set up some kind of agency to review and approve what plays (and I presume books and films), professors are allowed to show to students in public universities and colleges?
I guess I don’t understand what your point is at all. You seem to be implying that USC Upstate should not have allowed the Theater Department to stage this play because of its sexual content. This play was written in 1891. It was controversial then and was censored by many governments, but it has been performed all over the world and is recognized as an important play. The play covers a lot topics other than homosexuality. It was written as a criticism of repressive Victorian culture.
I guess in South Carelina we just don’t cotton to air “kids” bein exposed to that thar kinda stuff. Why can’t we have a play about Adam and Eve, or Noah, and leave out the incest part. Or about the Exodus and leave out the part about slaughtering women and children, or about godly King David,and leave out that part where he has the guy killed so he could screw his wife.
Or why can’t we have a play celebrating the guys that killed Matthew Sheppard to challenge the status quo?
Why not a play about chipmunks? Or love? Or a murder mystery on a train? Why not expose students to all lifestyles and beliefs? The problem is not exposing students to LGBTQ lifestyles and issues; the problem is USC Upstate does not expose the alternatives. It is common knowledge that this play was specifically picked to “show them”.
As I said, you want the State to set up a committee or agency of of some type to review and approve what plays (and I presume books and films), professors are allowed to show to students in public universities and colleges?
That is the only solution other than leaving it up to the professors and students as to which plays they want to perform. Most plays are picked to “show them”. Shakespeare did that all the time. Performance art is frequently about making a point. This play was about making a point in 1891 when it was written. You don’t have to agree with the point, and since I would guess you have not seen the play you have no idea what the point is.
The committee idea is the only way to assure the schools perform only plays that offend no one.
I must say this it typical teapublican crap. Why don’t we burn a few books while we are at it.
Your comment “you want” indicates your ignorance and arrogance in your belief that you understand and must dictate what others need. I made no mention of a state committee or any censorship. My comment was plainly that the university has focused on one issue and your attitude confirms this refusal to offer varied and alternative views. I am glad I never had to suffer through your arrogant and narrow minded classroom Jan.
If I watch a documentary on the Holocaust, does that make me Pro-Hitler or Pro-genicide?
Was the play a documentary about being gay?
Enrollment is down in SC – I guess that has more to do with it than christians telling students not to go there.
I suspect people are finally catching on to the “education is the ticket to a better life” scam. Lots of college grads working at Starbucks these days.
At least the pretty ones can get work at Twin Peaks or Hooters.
strippers in training.
I suspect people are finally catching on to the “education is the ticket to a better life” scam. Lots of college grads working at Starbucks these days.
But you tell us everybody will support the gays, and the GOP is dying because we are not in bed w/ promoting sexual preference as a civil right…
Are you backtracking now???
abortion is still legal – because the majority of *Americans* believe it should be.
Why do you hate America?
You Socialists killing Jews was accepted by yall in Nazi Germany..so no wonder Killing the innocent comes easy for you now…
You wouldn’t know the difference between a Socialist and a Fascist if one put you in an oven.
Yeah, the National Socialist German Workers Party totally wasn’t Socialist or Fascist.
Hitler was a Fascist… so that kind of makes it even.
Y’all, and killing isn’t capitalized…
I’m going to submit a new DSM entry called, “Random Capitalization Syndrome”
Excellent!! Getting rid of the superstitious bigoted religious hypocrites is a definite plus.
Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out!
Problem is: You gay-crusaders PAY for nothing…and COST us boat-loads…
If the people you HATE do not participate, your ticket as a freeloader is CANCELLED…
See Obamacare…[email protected]$$…it’s filled w/ users and takers signing up…but the healthy and working have to pay…so they are “Boycotting”….and Obama is looking like an idiot because of it…LMAO…
What you say?
QQ: Does Medicaid cover AIDS???…
You tell us. This certainly has been a topic of conversation in your basement.
Does it cover lazy ass blog trolls that can’t sustain a living because they’re journalistic hacks that no one hires?
The HATE is dripping off your lips…Nice liberal, I’m sure…
If gay people got a pass on paying taxes, The Koch brothers would be the Cock brothers.
Yeah, you sound like a real tolerant guy.
Unlike the Religious right, whose tolerance leads to damnation?
If you don’t believe it, what do you care?
If I don’t believe what? That the Religious right sees tolerance as a one way ticket to hell?
If you don’t believe in religion, what do you care about what they believe sends you to hell? That’d be like me caring if my daughter believes that if I step on a crack it will break my mother’s back. If you don’t believe it’s true, then why do you obsess over what someone else believes?
I was only pointing out the blindness of the statement.
So they’re intolerant because they believe something that you find is totally ludicrous? And you’re tolerant because you despise them for their beliefs and mock them at any chance you get. Got it.
Not at all. They’re intolerant, period. And they don’t mind saying I’m the intolerant one for saying so.
So why pretend to be tolerant if you accept that you’re not?
Why try to turn white into black if you really don’t believe in either?
Are you just asking random questions now?
Have you stopped reasoning now?
True. I have low tolerance for people who try to force others to live by their superstitious delusions.
I’m funny that way.
At least you can admit you’re a hypocrite I suppose.
Pedophiles who admit it aren’t hypocrites. I’m not sure your set of weights and measures are human.
Put down the pipe brother.
I haven’t smoked dope in over 5 years… a friend gave me some bud about 3 years ago when my wife got cancer. When we moved it was still there in the cigar box… dried up and probably little potency left. I threw it out.
Now, if you know where I can get some pharmaceutical grade LSD or psilocybin, you be sure and let me know!
FINALLY…Christians are Standing up…
Better be careful though, Obama’s liable to send in the militia w/ orders to shoot…he cannot STAND for Christians to have a voice…watch out for the IRS punishment too…
“We fled from bullies 200-plus years ago, then took them out in a revolution”
Okay, I’ll bite: what the hell are you talking about?
Ever hear of something called the AMERICAN REVOLUTION, [email protected]$$????
Try Googling it…idiot…Your god-Obama is trying to force his laws on us…just like England tried…hopefully you and your King Obama meet the same fate as their king…
The Colonists never, ever faced the fearsome British army of the late empire. For the most part, the field armies tasked with suppressing the rebellion were softened units that hadn’t seen combat in a decade. As for asking for backup, no matter how belated: There was none to send. In 1776, the total manpower of British military might reached 96,000. That was their entire worldwide strength. With these men, the British were fighting the Patriots, while holding Caribbean possessions, while manning their stations at Gibraltar and Minorca, and Ireland, and Gold Coast territories … and defending England itself.
But fell free to believe otherwise and romance the patriotism…
Translation: We’re Free to reject you, and you cannot stand it because you’ve been told no gay propaganda…Get used to it, @$$hole…It’s about to get worse for you…
Translation: You just got served, GT!
Wow, did that happen around 1814??
King George III lived to be 81. Twice the life expectancy of the average person in 1820. At the time of his death his wealth in present day dollars would be hundreds of millions and he was the absolute ruler of the most powerful nation on earth. Are you sure that is what you are wishing on Obama.
Your description made no sense, thus my confusion.
When you learn to communicate properly, we will all likely have a much greater understanding of you and your positions.
“Additionally, the school is reportedly facing “huge budget issues” as a result of the boycott.”
There are probably other financial issues at play.
In the above is this matrix comparing the financial path of SC colleges and universities.
I bet Jerry Sandusky is as P!$$#d as NAMBLA and the Gay-BLTs ….
Gay propaganda on campus makes raping little boys SO MUCH easier for homosexuals……
That you, Bob Jones?
No, that’s my evil twin. I try to avoid using logical fallacies such as “think of the children” and generally try to provide evidence along with my claims.
Jerry Sandusky is a Republican, look it up. Most Republican politicians are either gay, adulterers, or gay adulterers.
No..you F*+#!ng idiot…he’s a Homosexual.why do you filthy pieces of $#!t always deny your gods when they manifest?
Yes he is a Republican Homosexual. Apparently a lot of Republican are. Mark Foley and Larry Craig, come to mind. He is also a pedophile. I am not sure what percentage of Republicans are pedophiles? Probably a lot.
Craig or Foley are pedophiles…you have proof of this, I’m guessing???
Craig no, but Foley was explicitly sexually soliciting underage/minor boys – and you can look that up – its pretty common knowledge. I do not think the male prostitutes Craig solicited were ever shown to be underage though.
Looks like I caught another Ignorant liberal in a LIE: LMAO…
“The questionable alleged conversations, between Foley and anyone underage were investigated by the FBI for possible criminal violations. In September 2008, Florida officials investigating Foley could not charge him, citing a lack of evidence”…
You’re an Idiot…and a liar…That’s why the DNC tells you to keep your F*#king mouth shut and only repeat the Bull-$#!* they feed you…you’re too stupid to get into conversations based on your own intellect.
Stupid F*#k…LMAO..hahahahaha …give me the rope, and I’ll hang your [email protected]$$ EVERY TIME!!!!….Hahahaha…thank you for giving me a laugh…
Can you even read??? I said Foley and Craig were Republican Homosexuals. I said Sandusky was a Republican pedofile. And no I am not implying gays are more likely to molest children.
I would not let my child near anyone like you however. Homophobic men are more likely to molest little girls..
Its liberals profiting from child molestation. They are your people. Why deny?
Someone subsides stupidity with this website. You could not possibly be making an income from advertising? Who exactly do you shill for?
I shill for yo momma.
Did you mean to say “subsidizes” instead of “subsides”? Because what you wrote makes no sense…
Fits you forgot to add your little caveat bout not having anything against Gays in this, your weekly little kick at Gays routine.
Indeed, one marvels at how you discover obscure little stories,like this one about an obscure little college ,for your scheduled rant.
I mean I get the Black deal.The NAACP provides constant fodder for your regular kick at AAs,but searching for connecting something to Gays requires a little more imagination.
Are you FREAKING kidding. FITS handles you NAZI Perverts w/ kid gloves. W/o immorality, FITS is F*#k#d in the @$$…He has not friends on the right…except the posers….
FITS Bashes Republicans all day long, and ignores, for the most part the TOTAL F*#*in’ Failure Obama is…
Obama is SCREENING questions to his press secretary…FITS is SILENT. Abortionists are Buring babies for heat…SILENCE!!!…..
Ever hear of Richard Nixon, you Brain Dead Dip$#!*???…Obama using the IRS for political persecution, spying on reporters, and the TOTAL DISASTER Obamacare is along w/ the Obam-economy…
And this F*#king NumbSkull is so Freakin Stupid he’s Telling you it’s the GOP’s fault, and that he’s a libertarian…
You ignorant Bastards are so molly-coddled, you have NO idea what a TOTAL F*#k up your lord-god Obama, is..and how FITS is his enabler…
You are one STUPID Motherf^#*#^R
This might be your best work yet!
Government funded colleges don’t like being held accountable to their customers for the most part.
universities have an important role to play in stirring up complacent thinking. the upstate tends to be texas-like in their nonsensical fundamentalism. it’s nice to hear that USC upstate is taking their duty seriously beyond doling out MBAs. good on them. and fuck you for this insulting bit of trolling FITS.
Our boy has been insulting by coming here, oh dear, what shall he do? I suppose not typing in the web address might help, but that would require he cure himself of his masochism.
So the implication is that USC-U is “forcing taxpayers to pay for pro-gay propaganda” by staging a college musical? What dramatic performances or musicals would be satisfactory? Disney? No – the fundamentalists wouldn’t like that either. Disney allows gay couples benefits. Shakespeare? He does talk about making the “two-backed beast.” Gee, maybe this is a tempest in a teapot? Perhaps the sources and information for this story are even shakier than usual even for Fits?
Awesome… hope they go under. With more and more limited freedoms everyday in this country, it’s pretty clear that an American’s best course of dissent nowadays is to vote with their wallet and feet. JC Penney learned the hard way what happens when you bite the hands that feed you, and so will this two bit higher ed institution.
The ignorance in this state never ceases to amaze………….
Whats not understood here is the understanding. Understanding the issues is not being understood by those in administration that dont understand. Those that really understand arent in the position to affect real change anymore. Things arnt good because of the bad. When those that were good had control good things and decions were made that were good.
Change isnt goig to change until tom is gone.
Masterfullson hahahaha sure undo the goid do the bad for tommy
It’s all Charley’s fault. That excuse has worn thin. Too many fish in the tank. Too much fat at the top. Time to trim the fat. If the Prince remains the King will fall.
It is time for some one way tickets to China.
USC-Upstate operates better than any school that the state. It is number one for best student costs, number one low cost for administering each student, which beats SCState, the Citadel, C of C, and all the rest that the legislature gives all the money to. It has the top rated nursing program in the state also.