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2016: Fiscal Cons Rising

Three of the top six prospects for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination are fiscally conservative United States Senators, a new Public Policy Polling survey reveals. Leading the field? U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky), who is currently the choice of 16 percent of Republican primary voters. Just behind him are a…

Three of the top six prospects for the 2016 Republican presidential nomination are fiscally conservative United States Senators, a new Public Policy Polling survey reveals.

Leading the field? U.S. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky), who is currently the choice of 16 percent of Republican primary voters. Just behind him are a trio of establishment “Republicans” – former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, and House Budget Committee Chairman Paul Ryan. Each of these prospective candidates are currently polling at 13 percent among GOP voters, according to the survey.

U.S. Senators Ted Cruz (R-Texas) and Marco Rubio (R-Florida) come in just behind this establishment trio – garnering 12 and 10 percent of the vote, respectively. Rubio – who led the field when PPP last polled Republican voters in May – has seen his standing plunge by 6 percent since he championed a controversial immigration reform bill in Washington, D.C.

“The trend in the Republican primary field is pretty clear,” PPP president Dean Debnam said. “Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are up and Marco Rubio is down.”

What does this poll mean? At this point, not much … although the emergence of Paul, Cruz and Rubio as viable contenders would seem to indicate some Republican voters are aware of the party’s need to recalibrate toward the fiscally conservative, socially libertarian nexus this website has been championing for years.

You know … as opposed to the big spending, socialized medicine-supporting, “neoconservative” nexus. Or the sanctimonious moralizing wing of the GOP led by former U.S. Sen. Rick Santorum. Incidentally, Santorum received the support of just four percent of respondents in the poll.

PPP surveyed 500 Republican voters between July 19-21. The poll’s margin of error is 4.3 percent.

PPP Presidential Poll

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32 comments

Frank Pytel July 29, 2013 at 11:51 am

Chris Christie a conservative?

BBBWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHH

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Frank Pytel July 29, 2013 at 11:52 am

Oh, I see. They surveyed ‘Republicrats’, not Conservatives. That explains it.

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Frank Pytel July 29, 2013 at 11:51 am

Chris Christie a conservative?

BBBWWAAAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHH

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Frank Pytel July 29, 2013 at 11:52 am

Oh, I see. They surveyed ‘Republicrats’, not Conservatives. That explains it.

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Smirks July 29, 2013 at 11:59 am

Ryan and Christie stand the best chances if you ask me. Jeb’s going to be weighed down by his last name as polls still show a good bit of animosity towards Dubya regarding the economy ( http://www.gallup.com/poll/163427/bush-bears-brunt-blame-economic-woes.aspx ). Cruz is batshit insane. Rubio is a sellout. Rand is questionable, he stands a chance but I don’t see him making it.

If that isn’t sad enough, the notion of Hilary and Biden being in the Democrat primary should make you want to cry. I can already see my ass firmly planted in the recliner on election day 2016.

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President Aspirations Continue July 29, 2013 at 4:27 pm

With that muddy field, I see an opening for Mark Sanford and his multi-lingual South of the Boarder beloved. He might be contemplating his “worthiness” to serve now, but that should resolve as his ego continues to reassert itself while warring with his reduced gravitas as citizen legislator.

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Smirks July 29, 2013 at 11:59 am

Ryan and Christie stand the best chances if you ask me. Jeb’s going to be weighed down by his last name as polls still show a good bit of animosity towards Dubya regarding the economy ( http://www.gallup.com/poll/163427/bush-bears-brunt-blame-economic-woes.aspx ). Cruz is batshit insane. Rubio is a sellout. Rand is questionable, he stands a chance but I don’t see him making it.

If that isn’t sad enough, the notion of Hilary and Biden being in the Democrat primary should make you want to cry. I can already see my ass firmly planted in the recliner on election day 2016.

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President Aspirations Continue July 29, 2013 at 4:27 pm

With that muddy field, I see an opening for Mark Sanford and his multi-lingual South of the Boarder beloved. He might be contemplating his “worthiness” to serve now, but that should resolve as his ego continues to reassert itself while warring with his reduced gravitas as citizen legislator.

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GreenvilleLwyr July 29, 2013 at 12:07 pm

Since when is Paul Ryan an establishment Republican? I thought he was a Tea Partier, or at least a legit conservative. At least that was the book on him in 2012 before he and Mitt got their asses handed to them.

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Frank Pytel July 29, 2013 at 1:50 pm

Paul Ryan is about as conservative as the Obonehead in the House. He and Boenherd are about as conservative as a rainbow.

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GreenvilleLwyr July 29, 2013 at 12:07 pm

Since when is Paul Ryan an establishment Republican? I thought he was a Tea Partier, or at least a legit conservative. At least that was the book on him in 2012 before he and Mitt got their asses handed to them.

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Frank Pytel July 29, 2013 at 1:50 pm

Paul Ryan is about as conservative as the Obonehead in the House. He and Boenherd are about as conservative as a rainbow.

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EJB July 29, 2013 at 12:26 pm

Years ago I read an explanation of surveys that showed the results in a survey of 1,000 people vs. a survey of 10,000 people had a very minor difference (I had always wondered how a survey of 1,000 people could show the outcome of hundreds of thousands or millions of people) and I wish I could find that again. That same report also explained about where and how you ask can influence the outcome also, such as a question about legalizing prostitution. Ask parishioners as they are leaving church with the preacher watching vs. asking people as they are leaving the bar at closing time. Even knowing all that I still wonder if one could truly get the actual feel of the electorate in a political survey of 1,000 people let alone the 500 people in this survey. I would think one would have to do the survey of 500 people in each of the 50 states (or 57 if you listen to the President). Even in primaries the winner rarely takes all the states and his “take” is sort of a quilt. But to the point of this survey by PPP, didn’t they blow it with the SC-1 race?

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tomstickler July 29, 2013 at 3:56 pm

If you click thru to the PPP poll results, you will see that this poll was conducted by automated phone calls.

Although Rand Paul enjoys a small lead over other Republicans — not outside the margin of error — he loses by eight points to Hilary Clinton in a general election, worst of the major contenders.

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EJB July 29, 2013 at 12:26 pm

Years ago I read an explanation of surveys that showed the results in a survey of 1,000 people vs. a survey of 10,000 people had a very minor difference (I had always wondered how a survey of 1,000 people could show the outcome of hundreds of thousands or millions of people) and I wish I could find that again. That same report also explained about where and how you ask can influence the outcome also, such as a question about legalizing prostitution. Ask parishioners as they are leaving church with the preacher watching vs. asking people as they are leaving the bar at closing time. Even knowing all that I still wonder if one could truly get the actual feel of the electorate in a political survey of 1,000 people let alone the 500 people in this survey. I would think one would have to do the survey of 500 people in each of the 50 states (or 57 if you listen to the President). Even in primaries the winner rarely takes all the states and his “take” is sort of a quilt. But to the point of this survey by PPP, didn’t they blow it with the SC-1 race?

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tomstickler July 29, 2013 at 3:56 pm

If you click thru to the PPP poll results, you will see that this poll was conducted by automated phone calls.

Although Rand Paul enjoys a small lead over other Republicans — not outside the margin of error — he loses by eight points to Hilary Clinton in a general election, worst of the major contenders.

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Crooner July 29, 2013 at 3:00 pm

Who’s turn is it? The Republicans always nominate the next one in line. My guess is it’s Ryan since he ran for veep. Provided his family history of heart disease doesn’t get him first.

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vicupstate July 30, 2013 at 7:14 pm

Rick Santorum is the next in line. He had the second best run for the nomination. That is who historical gets it the next time.

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Crooner July 29, 2013 at 3:00 pm

Who’s turn is it? The Republicans always nominate the next one in line. My guess is it’s Ryan since he ran for veep. Provided his family history of heart disease doesn’t get him first.

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vicupstate July 30, 2013 at 7:14 pm

Rick Santorum is the next in line. He had the second best run for the nomination. That is who historical gets it the next time.

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lawzoo July 29, 2013 at 4:48 pm

Ayn Rand Paul and Ted ” Underwater sea” Cruz are up? Oh I get it …to no
good ! Yeah Marco Rubio just emigrated from the Primary Lindsey-style !

Same crowd just different names and faces.

Just for fun—–who comes the closest to being a statesperson (f/k/a statesman)? Damn !

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lawzoo July 29, 2013 at 4:48 pm

Ayn Rand Paul and Ted ” Underwater sea” Cruz are up? Oh I get it …to no
good ! Yeah Marco Rubio just emigrated from the Primary Lindsey-style !

Same crowd just different names and faces.

Just for fun—–who comes the closest to being a statesperson (f/k/a statesman)? Damn !

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Joe July 29, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Looks like we’ll have another democrat president in 2016

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Joe July 29, 2013 at 6:54 pm

Looks like we’ll have another democrat president in 2016

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9" July 29, 2013 at 9:32 pm

Today,The Catholic Church named,Will Fits,The Saint Of Lost Causes!

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9" July 29, 2013 at 9:32 pm

Today,The Catholic Church named,Will Fits,The Saint Of Lost Causes!

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Chaz22 July 29, 2013 at 10:21 pm

Don’t take these polls too seriously . I am very tunned -in to what’s happening in politics and I read one poll one day and the next poll survey will be very different.
In the past 10 days or so I have read that Rand Paul leads the bunch, then the poll numbers after that said Christie was leading. The next poll had Cruz at the top. Two other polls had Ryan as the winner . Once even Jeb Bush lead the pack .
I pick Ryan or Paul. The only reason I could stomach Paul though is because he’s libertarian , and I don’t like the extreme conservative in the Rep. party or the extremely moderate in the party. I figure Paul is somewhere in between.
About Ryan : I think people should understand, before they judge him by his performance as a campaigner, that he is quite the different ( and better) person on the job. He would have made a good vice-president in spite of poor campaigning. He had a lot to offer, but he is not a campaigner. He is still a leader, an idea person, a person who gets things done and a pervasive personlity that people listen to .

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Chaz22 July 29, 2013 at 10:21 pm

Don’t take these polls too seriously . I am very tunned -in to what’s happening in politics and I read one poll one day and the next poll survey will be very different.
In the past 10 days or so I have read that Rand Paul leads the bunch, then the poll numbers after that said Christie was leading. The next poll had Cruz at the top. Two other polls had Ryan as the winner . Once even Jeb Bush lead the pack .
I pick Ryan or Paul. The only reason I could stomach Paul though is because he’s libertarian , and I don’t like the extreme conservative in the Rep. party or the extremely moderate in the party. I figure Paul is somewhere in between.
About Ryan : I think people should understand, before they judge him by his performance as a campaigner, that he is quite the different ( and better) person on the job. He would have made a good vice-president in spite of poor campaigning. He had a lot to offer, but he is not a campaigner. He is still a leader, an idea person, a person who gets things done and a pervasive personlity that people listen to .

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Cleveland Steamer July 30, 2013 at 12:17 am

The pubs are screwed unless Christie loses 100 pounds. I ofter wonder how Grover got elected, I guess it was before TV.

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Cleveland Steamer July 30, 2013 at 12:17 am

The pubs are screwed unless Christie loses 100 pounds. I ofter wonder how Grover got elected, I guess it was before TV.

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John Boy July 30, 2013 at 11:09 am

Keep the crazy comng folks, because nothing is more entertaing than neos.

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John Boy July 30, 2013 at 11:09 am

Keep the crazy comng folks, because nothing is more entertaining than neos.

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