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SC-1: Nash Backs Nullification

Former Dorchester County (S.C.) Sheriff Ray Nash is endorsing the doctrine of nullification in response to “threats to our Second Amendment rights” and “health care reform being forced down the throats of the states.” “The argument I think is quite valid,” Nash says in a video released by his campaign….

Former Dorchester County (S.C.) Sheriff Ray Nash is endorsing the doctrine of nullification in response to “threats to our Second Amendment rights” and “health care reform being forced down the throats of the states.”

“The argument I think is quite valid,” Nash says in a video released by his campaign. “The Tenth Amendment says that any powers that have not specifically been delegated to the federal government by virtue of the constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states, respectively, or to the people.”

Nash goes on to refer to nullification as a “retained right that the states still possess if there is an overextension of the federal authority.”

We don’t necessarily disagree with him … and Nash’s point that the federal government is a creation of the states (not the other way around) is a valid one.

Our only problem? Like most of the candidates running for the first congressional district seat, Nash is a fundamentally flawed messenger. In fact we’re told his problems extend much deeper than what we’ve reported on thus far in this race.

That’s too bad. Nash seems like a smart guy – and he’s definitely got the right perspective on this issue. But talk (however erudite) is cheap – and based on what we’ve seen Nash does not deserve to be trusted with our tax dollars.

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52 comments

Trolling for Comments February 28, 2013 at 11:31 am

“retained right that the states still possess if there is an overextension of the federal authority.”

Sounds like a real legal scholar. Sigh, will this state every grow the fuck up?

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Trolling for Comments February 28, 2013 at 11:31 am

“retained right that the states still possess if there is an overextension of the federal authority.”

Sounds like a real legal scholar. Sigh, will this state every grow the fuck up?

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cuvinny February 28, 2013 at 11:33 am

Whats with all these redneck county sheriffs thinking they are constitutional lawyers all of a sudden.

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Isotope Soap February 28, 2013 at 2:20 pm

Lol. Give them 15 minutes of talk radio and Fox and it’s time to bring it!

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cuvinny February 28, 2013 at 11:33 am

Whats with all these redneck county sheriffs thinking they are constitutional lawyers all of a sudden.

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John Boy February 28, 2013 at 2:20 pm

Lol. Give them 15 minutes of talk radio and Fox and it’s time to bring it!

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MJ February 28, 2013 at 11:48 am

You don’t need to be a lawyer to understand the Constitution

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Jim February 28, 2013 at 7:31 pm

A lawyer trying to explain constitutional law to a layman is like a physicist explaining relativity to a laymen; most just don’t get it. They want it to be far more simple than it is.

“The layman’s constitutional view is that what he likes is constitutional and that which he doesn’t like is unconstitutional.”
Hugo Black

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MJ February 28, 2013 at 11:48 am

You don’t need to be a lawyer to understand the Constitution

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Jim February 28, 2013 at 7:31 pm

A lawyer trying to explain constitutional law to a layman is like a physicist explaining relativity to a laymen; most just don’t get it. They want it to be far more simple than it is.

“The layman’s constitutional view is that what he likes is constitutional and that which he doesn’t like is unconstitutional.”
Hugo Black

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CorruptionInColumbia February 28, 2013 at 12:30 pm

I agree with Nash on these topics. Unfortunately, he is another (of many) ego maniac Sheriffs who believes he has the right to tell his deputies who they can sleep with or not. Like Matthews in Kershaw County and quite a few more, he panders to the churches and Bible-thumpers by inflicting his “morality” on his employees. If he is like most such people, he is likely violating his own “moral codes” on a regular basis.

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CorruptionInColumbia February 28, 2013 at 12:30 pm

I agree with Nash on these topics. Unfortunately, he is another (of many) ego maniac Sheriffs who believes he has the right to tell his deputies who they can sleep with or not. Like Matthews in Kershaw County and quite a few more, he panders to the churches and Bible-thumpers by inflicting his “morality” on his employees. If he is like most such people, he is likely violating his own “moral codes” on a regular basis.

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jimlewisowb February 28, 2013 at 1:10 pm

Damn, I have always heard that when someone gets elected to the House or Senate they automatically gain 10,000,000 million new brain cells which elevates them to a God Like status. You know, like that Goddamn Bobby Harrell.

Didn’t think the same happened when someone got elected to be a Sheriff.

Knew Sheriffs got a shiny badge, bunch of little stars to put on their collars, lots of stripes for their jacket sleeves, a hat with scrambled eggs on the bill, a gun, a set of handcuffs, two bullet cases, a slaptheshitoutofyou stick, a car with thousands of little blue Christmas lights and a butt load of money to hire their friends and relatives.

Other than that figured they would be just as dumb after being elected as they were before being elected

Oh, did hear about a new Sheriff down the low country who after taking the oath of office adorned himself with all the trappings of his new status which added about 75 lbs. to his overall weight.

Unfortunately later that day upon leaving the Doughnut Shop he stepped into a mud puddle and drowned.

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jimlewisowb February 28, 2013 at 1:10 pm

Damn, I have always heard that when someone gets elected to the House or Senate they automatically gain 10,000,000 million new brain cells which elevates them to a God Like status. You know, like that Goddamn Bobby Harrell.

Didn’t think the same happened when someone got elected to be a Sheriff.

Knew Sheriffs got a shiny badge, bunch of little stars to put on their collars, lots of stripes for their jacket sleeves, a hat with scrambled eggs on the bill, a gun, a set of handcuffs, two bullet cases, a slaptheshitoutofyou stick, a car with thousands of little blue Christmas lights and a butt load of money to hire their friends and relatives.

Other than that figured they would be just as dumb after being elected as they were before being elected

Oh, did hear about a new Sheriff down the low country who after taking the oath of office adorned himself with all the trappings of his new status which added about 75 lbs. to his overall weight.

Unfortunately later that day upon leaving the Doughnut Shop he stepped into a mud puddle and drowned.

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Paul C. Graham February 28, 2013 at 2:34 pm

I hope he follows through. No one needs a law degree to know that this is not now, nor ever has been, a delegated power to the District of Criminals (DC).

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Trolling for comments February 28, 2013 at 2:46 pm

So, Paul, the Second Amendment, which was only recently incorporated by the courts, isn’t under the purview of the Federal Government? Yeah, you certainly don’t have a law degree. I’d be surprised if you passed an 8th grade Civics class.

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Maximilien Robespierre February 28, 2013 at 3:11 pm

Let them be concerned with purview as they are frog marched to The National Razor.

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Real Republian February 28, 2013 at 5:34 pm

It’s truly sad how ignorant people are about this, including this site’s Founding Porn Hustler. The last few times Southern governments tried to defy SCOTUS, we got nice federal troops to come down and make sure we complied. E.g., Alabama tried to “nullify” federal influence over blacks’ admission to public schools. Alabama failed! And all the haters watched even more of their precious states’ rights slip away. Is that what we want again?

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Paul C. Graham February 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm

I failed civics class because they could not convince me that the plain language of the constitution did not delegate unnamed powers to the federal government regardless of how the federal judges interpret federal laws passed by the federal house and senate which is openly hostile to both personal liberties and the corporate liberties of the states that created the federal government in the first place.

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Trolling for comments March 1, 2013 at 10:37 am

Um, which law are you referring to? The right to regulate firearms, which is in the Second Amendment (see FEDERAL GOV’T), and only recently incorporated recently by those horrible Federal Courts (incorporated means if it wasn’t in your state constitution, your state could prohibit ownership of firearms entirely; again, civics class). As for the AHCA, aka Obamacare, this has already been to the courts and that communist John Roberts could read in PLAIN LANGUAGE that congress has the power to regulate commerce and to tax.

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Paul C. Graham March 1, 2013 at 11:48 pm

Well, if John Roberts said it, it MUST be true.

Jim March 1, 2013 at 6:51 pm

I thought you were joking about failing civics class until I read your comments. Apparently Fits and Nash also failed civics class. Too many pieces of misinformation or disinformation to discuss them all, so I will just take one. The states did not create the Federal Government. See first line of the Preamble to the Constitution.

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Paul C. Graham March 1, 2013 at 11:45 pm

Chech article 7, big guy. The preamble is just that, a preamble. Any fool knows how and by whom the the articles were nullified and the constitution was adopted. Article 7 names the parties to the compact and how many of them were necessary for the its adoption. you can also peruse the radification conventions. Stay out of secondary sources and case law if you want to understand how your government came to be and for what purpose.

Paul C. Graham February 28, 2013 at 2:34 pm

I hope he follows through. No one needs a law degree to know that this is not now, nor ever has been, a delegated power to the District of Criminals (DC).

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Trolling for comments February 28, 2013 at 2:46 pm

So, Paul, the Second Amendment, which was only recently incorporated by the courts, isn’t under the purview of the Federal Government? Yeah, you certainly don’t have a law degree. I’d be surprised if you passed an 8th grade Civics class.

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Maximilien Robespierre February 28, 2013 at 3:11 pm

Let them be concerned with purview as they are frog marched to The National Razor.

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Real Republian February 28, 2013 at 5:34 pm

It’s truly sad how ignorant people are about this, including this site’s Founding Porn Hustler. The last few times Southern governments tried to defy SCOTUS, we got nice federal troops to come down and make sure we complied. E.g., Alabama tried to “nullify” federal influence over blacks’ admission to public schools. Alabama failed! And all the haters watched even more of their precious states’ rights slip away. Is that what we want again?

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Paul C. Graham February 28, 2013 at 11:16 pm

I failed civics class because they could not convince me that the plain language of the constitution did not delegate unnamed powers to the federal government regardless of how the federal judges interpret federal laws passed by the federal house and senate which is openly hostile to both personal liberties and the corporate liberties of the states that created the federal government in the first place.

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Trolling for comments March 1, 2013 at 10:37 am

Um, which law are you referring to? The right to regulate firearms, which is in the Second Amendment (see FEDERAL GOV’T), and only recently incorporated recently by those horrible Federal Courts (incorporated means if it wasn’t in your state constitution, your state could prohibit ownership of firearms entirely; again, civics class). As for the AHCA, aka Obamacare, this has already been to the courts and that communist John Roberts could read in PLAIN LANGUAGE that congress has the power to regulate commerce and to tax.

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Paul C. Graham March 1, 2013 at 11:48 pm

Well, if John Roberts said it, it MUST be true.

Jim March 1, 2013 at 6:51 pm

I thought you were joking about failing civics class until I read your comments. Apparently Fits and Nash also failed civics class. Too many pieces of misinformation or disinformation to discuss them all, so I will just take one. The states did not create the Federal Government. See first line of the Preamble to the Constitution.

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Paul C. Graham March 1, 2013 at 11:45 pm

Chech article 7, big guy. The preamble is just that, a preamble. Any fool knows how and by whom the the articles were nullified and the constitution was adopted. Article 7 names the parties to the compact and how many of them were necessary for the its adoption. you can also peruse the radification conventions. Stay out of secondary sources and case law if you want to understand how your government came to be and for what purpose.

Eddie February 28, 2013 at 2:36 pm

I know Ray and he’s the one I may vote for, simply because he’s a normal human being, NOT an egomaniac — just a very, very nice guy. Years ago he brought in a baptist preacher to the Dorchester County Jail and pressure was on prisoners to pray with this minister. That was over the top, the newspapers exposed it, and Ray terminated it. All the candidates are extreme.

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Please March 1, 2013 at 9:42 am

And you just showed us how he is extreme with that anecdote, so why are you voting for him again?

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Eddie February 28, 2013 at 2:36 pm

I know Ray and he’s the one I may vote for, simply because he’s a normal human being, NOT an egomaniac — just a very, very nice guy. Years ago he brought in a baptist preacher to the Dorchester County Jail and pressure was on prisoners to pray with this minister. That was over the top, the newspapers exposed it, and Ray terminated it. All the candidates are extreme.

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Please March 1, 2013 at 9:42 am

And you just showed us how he is extreme with that anecdote, so why are you voting for him again?

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Moman50 February 28, 2013 at 3:52 pm

Strictly a second tier candidate.has no chance of winning.That must not have been much of a gig in Afghanistan that he gave him to make this losing effort.And,of course, if one knows one isnt going to be a serious candidate,one can say what they want.

Sort of like 1964,when Barry Goldwater lashed out at his advisors who were trying to get him to low key some of his more conservative positions,”Look Im going to lose this thing my own damn way!”

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Moman50 February 28, 2013 at 3:52 pm

Strictly a second tier candidate.has no chance of winning.That must not have been much of a gig in Afghanistan that he gave him to make this losing effort.And,of course, if one knows one isnt going to be a serious candidate,one can say what they want.

Sort of like 1964,when Barry Goldwater lashed out at his advisors who were trying to get him to low key some of his more conservative positions,”Look Im going to lose this thing my own damn way!”

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Real Republican February 28, 2013 at 5:26 pm

This is so funny. SCOTUS declares this constitutional, but this genius decides he knows better, so, that’s that. America is a society that obeys the rule of law. Since the Marshall Court, that means on constitutional questions, SCOTUS is the final word. Federalists,Whigs, Democrats, and Republicans have all understood this for hundreds of years. But not for Sheriff Ego! Saint Reagan even followed SCOTUS. But whatever.

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? February 28, 2013 at 5:41 pm

“America is a society that obeys the rule of law.”

lulz

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hack February 28, 2013 at 6:51 pm

The Constitution has been a rag since the Marshall court. The story behind the tax in question in McCollough v. Maryland is demonstrative of how monetary powers effect policy, exactly how they do today.

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Real Republican February 28, 2013 at 5:26 pm

This is so funny. SCOTUS declares this constitutional, but this genius decides he knows better, so, that’s that. America is a society that obeys the rule of law. Since the Marshall Court, that means on constitutional questions, SCOTUS is the final word. Federalists,Whigs, Democrats, and Republicans have all understood this for hundreds of years. But not for Sheriff Ego! Saint Reagan even followed SCOTUS. But whatever.

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? February 28, 2013 at 5:41 pm

“America is a society that obeys the rule of law.”

lulz

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hack February 28, 2013 at 6:51 pm

The Constitution has been a rag since the Marshall court. The story behind the tax in question in McCollough v. Maryland is demonstrative of how monetary powers effect policy, exactly how they do today.

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9" February 28, 2013 at 8:22 pm

dude’s gotta serious case of ‘gay-face’

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9" February 28, 2013 at 8:22 pm

dude’s gotta serious case of ‘gay-face’

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Billy Hall March 1, 2013 at 11:35 am

Ray Nash lays out all of the allegations against him and addresses each one in this new video his campaign just released. Watch! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A2Q2yJ30aY

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Please March 1, 2013 at 12:05 pm

NashBot ^

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? March 1, 2013 at 1:38 pm

I have to credit the guy for doing that.

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Billy Hall March 1, 2013 at 11:35 am

Ray Nash lays out all of the allegations against him and addresses each one in this new video his campaign just released. Watch! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6A2Q2yJ30aY

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Please March 1, 2013 at 12:05 pm

NashBot ^

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? March 1, 2013 at 1:38 pm

I have to credit the guy for doing that.

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