“THE SOLUTION IS TO REJECT THE MILITARISTS AND ISOLATIONISTS”
|| By RON PAUL || The horrific attacks in Paris on Friday have, predictably, led to much over-reaction and demands that we do more of the exact things that radicalize people and make them want to attack us. The French military wasted no time bombing Syria in retaliation for the attacks, though it is not known where exactly the attackers were from. Thousands of ISIS fighters in Syria are not Syrian, but came to Syria to overthrow the Assad government from a number of foreign countries — including from France and the US.
Ironically, the overthrow of Assad has also been the goal of both the US and France since at least 2011. Because the US and its allies are essentially on the same side as ISIS and other groups – seeking the overthrow of Assad – many of the weapons they have sent to the more “moderate” factions also seeking Assad’s ouster have ended up in the hands of radicals. Moderate groups have joined more radical factions over and over, taking their US-provided training and weapons with them. Other moderate groups have been captured or killed, their US-provided weapons also going to the radicals. Thus the more radical factions have become better equipped and better trained, while occasionally being attacked by US or allied planes.
Does anyone not believe this is a recipe for the kind of disaster we have now seen in Paris? The French in particular have been very active in arming even the more radical groups in Syria, as they push for more political influence in the region. Why do they still refuse to believe in the concept of blowback? Is it because the explanation that, “they hate us because we are free,” makes it easier to escalate abroad and crack down at home?
It may not be popular to say this as emotions run high and calls ring out for more bombing in the Middle East, but there is another way to address the problem. There is an alternative to using more military intervention to address a problem that was caused by military intervention in the first place.
That solution is to reject the militarists and isolationists. It is to finally reject the policy of using “regime change” to further perceived US and western foreign policy goals, whether in Iraq, Libya, Syria, or elsewhere. It is to reject the foolish idea that we can ship hundreds of millions of dollars worth of weapons to “moderates” in the Middle East and expect none of them to fall into the hands of radicals.
More bombs will not solve the problems in the Middle East. But a more promising approach to the Middle East is currently under fire from the isolationists in Washington. The nuclear deal with Iran ends UN sanctions and opens that country to international trade. Just last week the presidents of France and Iran met to discuss a number of trade deals. Other countries have followed. Trade and respect for national sovereignty trumps violence, but Washington still doesn’t seem to get it. Most presidential candidates compete to thump the table loudest against any deal with Iran. They will use this attack to propagandize against approving trade with Iran even though Iran has condemned the attack and is also in the crosshairs of ISIS.
Here is the alternative: Focus on trade and friendly relations, stop shipping weapons, abandon “regime change” and other manipulations, respect national sovereignty, and maintain a strong defense at home including protecting the borders from those who may seek to do us harm.
We should abandon the failed policies of the past, before it’s too late.
Ron Paul is a former U.S. Congressman from Texas and the leader of the pro-liberty, pro-free market movement in the United States. His weekly column – reprinted with permission – can be found here.
This guy doesn’t know what he’s talking about. What we need is another decade long war and another few trillion in the hole. That way we can come out at the end of it with the next Islamic extremist group to justify our perpetual war in the Middle East.
WOW!!!!! Brilliant! If we do this then America will go down the tubes faster than I go down on GrandTango! LMAO!!! Where do I sign up for this guy?
STFU…W makes you look like the stupid and incompetent FUCKS you are…you’re a Dumbass for even posting right now…without apologizing for BREATHING…you clueless liberal bastard…
Hey, I remember you guy! You said you voted for me twice! I remember because when I shook your hand my first thought was that this guy is probably the only person stupider than I am.
After a century worth of my policies we will probably have a hundred different extremist groups still attacking us and a national debt and depression so big it will collapse in on itself, creating a fiscal black hole that will suck in the entire global economy. Yay!
You – and Obama- make W look like a fucking genius…You make America wish he was back in charge. I’m sure he thanks you for that…
A double-sided retard couldn’t make W look smart.
How about a double-sided radical Islamic loving,American hating Muslim?
Nope. Two dead cows and Tango trying to have babies with them – is still smarter than W.
That sounds like you describing yourself.
You might want to back off some, my friend. I think that you are getting above your pay grade in debating with this fellow.
Maybe if I went and cut and paste from the DNC’s marching orders page, I could match him…Right….LMAO…
QUIET.I’m the leader of ISIS and the Muslim Brotherhood.
WHen you shook his hand it smelled of poop.
Could you fire up SCPD again and do a write up on “incompetent fucks” for those of us that love your writing?
He was 100% on the 2014 mid terms.
ALong with 50% in 2012 he’s at 50% – an F at USC.
Why…i have as much impact here..w/o the responsibility…LMAO…
The worship of any man, is folly. Just ask the Democrat Party about Obama…and how that’s turning out…
They worship man,animals,the weather and abortion.I can’t keep up. :)
You never had any responsibility. That’s why they never gave you the title “editor.”
I’ve been an editor a few times. Dumbass, but it’s not my calling. Editors are more managers, not usually the best writers, or communicators. Examine FITS, and his “abilities” and it should give you a clue…but I doubt you an pick up on them…
Yeah, the higher paying jobs ain’t my calling ;)
You sound like you’d do anything for money…Isn’t that why you claim you hate White people, and Republicans?…Bit of a fucking hypocrite, are you not?
Isn’t there a weekly bird cage liner you can go work for?
They hate us for our freedumbs. It’s a religious war.
They don’t hate us because for the last 100+ years the West has been meddling into their affairs and installing its own puppet dictators throughout the region.
It might have started with Lawrence of Arabia/Britian, or the US installing the brutal dictator Shah and deposing a democratically elected President, or unilaterally supporting Saudi Arabia, or deposing Saddam, or creating Al Qaeda, or destabilising the entire region with proxy wars all over N. Africa and through the Middle East.
They should be happy that our drone strike only take small numbers of collateral damage in civilians/kids on a somewhat routine basis.
They hate us because we’re predominately Christian and we’re “free”. Not all that other stuff. Even Assad knows it:
“So, the West is crying for them, and the West is supporting terrorists since the beginning of the crisis when it said that this was a peaceful uprising, when they said later it’s moderate opposition, and now they say there is terrorism like al-Nusra and ISIS, but because of the Syrian state or the Syrian regime or the Syrian president.”
See that? He hates the West because it’s Christian and free.
–Obama has been arming Al-Qaeda in Syria and Benghazi.
– Obama has Muslim Brotherhood members in his administration, even one who openly supports the creation of an Islamic Caliphate.
– Somehow Obama only found out about the 40,000 ISIS army crossing over into Iraq by watching TV.
– CIA director John Brennan has been giving Jihad groups weapons for years, which ISIS now utilizes
So you admit the US government might be responsible for this mess?
How dare you! You must be unpatriotic!
In “Audacity of Hope” Obama writes: “I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.” The quote comes from page 261 of the paperback edition of “The Audacity of Hope.
And he is while America braces for terrorist attacks.
In the wake of 9/11, my
meetings with Arab and Pakistani Americans, for example, have a more
urgent quality, for the stories of detentions and FBI questioning and
hard stares from neighbors have shaken their sense of security and
belonging. They have been reminded that the history of immigration in
this country has a dark underbelly; they need specific reassurances
that their citizenship really means something, that America has learned
the right lessons from the Japanese internments during World War II, and that I will stand with them should the political winds shift in an ugly direction.
Wow, add context and Obama sounds like a decent human being, unlike pogo.
It’s not just the context you provided, it shows the deliberate LIE pogo/flip told in using the word “Muslim” in his quote, which never actually appears in the text.
No one, conservative, liberal, or otherwise- should take anything he says as having any basis is truth.
No the government is just anti-American!
I have a tendency to agree with you. This is not solely about nationalism, nor solely about religion. The two have combined in the last few hundred years to become a strange brew of both. Nationalism serves as basis for these religious zealots to live a a modern world and practice their two thousand year old hatred of modern world. There are probably other places on earth just as extreme, but hardly any have access to modern world technologies and conveniences.
It is not the love of modern Nationalism and access to its conveniences , it is the hatred of anything non-Muslim and access to modern conveniences that allows these extremists to ply their trade in the rest of the world.
I agree that Paul’s alternative may be a blueprint for working with most countries, but sometimes it does not work with a corrupt religion.
****”They hate us cause they ain’t us” ******
(from the movie about killing the N. Korean leader which did have its funny moments)
LMAO….I won’t read what this stupid Liberal-Tarian-FITS SOB has to say…but I know if he is consistent, he’ll advise us to Bury Our Heads Even More Up Our Asses…like him, and his Band of Dumbass Followers…
The fact that this idiot would even post after what just happened, shows what fucking fools he- and FITS- are…It’s imbeciles like him, FITS, and Obama- that embolden Murderers..
Too bad you didn’t read it – he did make one valid point, continued integration of Iran into the world economy and system spurs them to help us defeat ISIS.
Rocky is an idiot.He just said Iran is going to defeat ISIS and supplying them with money and arms.
its ok to post about revenge but not how to not get in this position in the first place? If the united states minded their own fucking business in the first place and stayed in their own fucking country and quit trying to steal resources from other countries, non of this shit would of happened. Yes, Ron is correct. Stay the fuck out of their lives….You Americans created this mess in the first place, and you are going to take the rest of us down with you because you are a bunch of greedy fucking rednecks. THAT is an undeniable fact!
It will get where y’all are going to have to sacrifice your lives in worship to your evil gods. I think most of you are so fucking ignorant of history, that will come as a surprise to you.
But when the right person is leading, and you force your hate and violence, it will be answered. And I bet you shit your pants, just before the boot drops down on your neck. Stupidity can be terminal. And you’re probably too stupid to know that.
Brilliant! That’s what the Islamic State’s demands. Trade. Purhaps they will trade in slaves or historical treasures.
Obama is waging a war on religious liberty – but he’s stopped waging a war on Islamic terrorism here and around the globe. He and his leftist buddies in the administration actually view the Muslim Brotherhood and ISIS as allies.
Paul is an idiot.
Care to factually disprove a single point in this article? No, I didn’t think so. You’re too busy blaming the Democrats for not doing anything differently than the Republicans did when they were in charge. Ron (and now Rand) Paul are just about the only people that have tried to use reality to address the situation. The rest of them (and you, apparently) are living in denial.
I think the point is integrating Iran into the international system, and giving them the incentive to help defeat ISIS.
This is what we need to do: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0w2ZS231BAQ
OK, that would be a good start, but what are the Muslims in America, France, Britain, etc doing to stop the radical, insane, terrorists? I’m referring to the Muslims who appreciate the benefits of a better life for themselves and their children in a host country?
This is a religious war! We need to kill them, or they will kill as many of us as they can, women and children included, just as they are beheading children in the Mideast. Odumbass and his entire Cabinet and all feckless idiots he surrounds himself with. O is a total fool. When it happens here ,like in France….see what you think then.
Make it a relgious war – brilliant.
Ron Paul is a RINO. Libertarians need to win some elections on their own, and stop freeloading off of Republicans. Ron Paul was on the Republican Party welfare program for a couple of decades, the lousy hypocrite.
A damn racist as well.
You calling anyone “racist” is rich considering you calling Rock’s wife “stinky” and a host of other racially charged statements anonymously.
If you had the balls to say it to anyone’s face you be planted on your ass quickly.
You dish the shit out and ya gonna get it back! Liberals count on others to be silent when they viciously attack our families and communities.Not me.
Conservatives need to understand that the only way to defeat the evil of the left and its God less souls is to not be afraid to take the fight of ideas and debate to where ALL liberals live-in the sewer. :)
As far as threatening me, you ain’t man enough.I am a lean,mean fighting machine.A trained ‘liberal buster’ with a mind created for brilliance by my Lord Jesus Christ.
Keep your hands to yourself you disgusting freak. Your poor kids and grandkids…
“As far as threatening me, you ain’t man enough.I am a lean,mean fighting machine.”
Then show us you aren’t a pussy by posting your real name. Have the balls of Will Folks and POST YOUR NAME faggot pussy.
When you are served, I guess you will know.
More fake threats for you and your imaginery attorney. Awesome, faggot ass pussy.
Grow a pair of balls. You don’t even have 1/10 the character of Will. You run around attacking people anonymously and they cry & bitch like the impotent ass you are.
“Ron Paul: What Should Be Done In Response To Attack On France”…stick our head in the sand of course.
You apparently have very low scores in “critical reading” and “logical analysis.”
I stopped reading Ron Paul some time ago. You keep reading though, he needs all the support he can get.
Ron Paul is the 21st century reincarnation of Neville Chamberlain. Peace in our time.
ISIS illustrates how wrong the old maxim “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” really is.
As much as it pains me to say this, Father Liberty is pretty much right here, showing that the maxim about blind hogs finding an occasional acorn is still working.
Just listened to the President’s press conference in Turkey and it was pathetic.
I thought he was declaring war on America? Damn he is bitter.
I dunno. He’s doing a heck of job better than I did.
Obama is better.We are on the move.
Obama will keep his promises to you…and build the world’s best and biggest golf courses in your countries. Tourism will be booming!
Aren’t you glad we have the 22nd Amendment, I sure am.
Oh I don’t want that job again. I replaced my two footer with smaller 8-inch pull out bowl. Much better times. Dang, I”m hungry.
Not referring to you GWB, BHO is the President now, what you say and think is irrelevant.
I don’t ordinarily admit this, but Dick and I really screwed this up. And Condi – she was right there with us. First off, we were told about the 9/11 attacks on June 10, 2001 (I was on a conference line) – but Dick said to ignore it, so there wasn’t a paper trail. Tenent and his guys wanted air marshalls, but Condi was busy crafting a reset policy with Russia. So we really blew that one. When Dick said we should invade Iraq, to be honest, I was stoned. Little known fact, I used to smoke the gahnga because of my prior alcohol issues. Anyway, we were sparking up this 2-footer bong I had, and Dick says, let’s invade Iraq, topple Saddam, and install a democracy. I dunno if it was the cronick, but seemed like a good idea to me. Later on, it didn’t work so good. I couldn’t uderstand why them Shia’s (that name makes me laugh when I’m high), wouldn’t be nice with the Sunnis. But they wouldn’t. We could see the shit on the wall by 2007, so I just figured, let’s get out of this White House, and let it ride. We sort of figured this ISIS group would come along, but we kept real quiet about it. We decided to hit the two-footer again. Rumseld never smoked any, so we used to make him clean the bong water. Wait, what was I talking about again?
Rocky just use your own name.
Follow shifty henry and his advice….our writing gives us away on Fits….
Hey, pogo, your lawsuits might be made up but I still get paid for “filing” them. I want my money. And no more “I’ll buy your groceries with my food stamps” bullshit, you know that’s illegal.
I know… let’s keep the war machine running – forever!
Gens. McCain and Graham have the marching tune for these readily herded attack-sheep.
I find it hard to believe now that I was intrigued intellectually by the Dr. and his son Rand. Here is a guy suggesting that France appease the Muslims when they have taken them in to the tune of 8 million plus, fed them and put a free roof over their heads. When there is a suggestion of them assimilating even the slightest, they go into indignant outrage burning and looting their new country. The French President even asked what more can we do to keep you from feeling this way and now there are sections of France only military grade armed French can go into, because sending a whistle blowing cop would result in his beheading. I hear and give thought to his Isolationist ideas but perhaps more than staying out of their country we should consider keeping them out of ours. How long is it going to take for us to learn that not everyone is the same culturally and not everyone wants to adopt ours?
I think you should work on your critical reading and thinking skills. At what point did this article suggest “that France appease the Muslims”? You have pointed to symptoms while the article is addressing causes. What is your solution? Genocide?
You should come outside your Paul fanboy bubble and read more headlines. A little reading comprehension wouldn’t be a bad idea either. The solution is to buy and sell goods with the people who want to kill you?
Again, quote that part of the article you think is saying that and it can be discussed like rational people do. You’re making a strawman argument and it’s pathetic.
cue the “Nobodys’ on nobodys’ side” track from Chess and look for the Lexington Ring to try to find an angle, at least to move some 7.92mm that an AK can chamber.
A western republic won’t work unless the proles want it and it is easier, even wif US skule standerdz not to think or to oppose evil, but that is another digression.
7.62, I believe; 7.92 was the German “8mm.” You know we gun nuts try to keep these details straight.
Maybe we should invade Belgium.
NATO is headquartered in Brussels….. they don’t know what the fuck is going on its backyard? tsk..tsk…tsk
Well, what can I say? NSA is just outside Baltimore and they didn’t seem to know diddly-squat what was going on in its backyard! tsk…tsk…tsk
The Turks are claiming they shared intel with France on one of the dead terrorists in Dec 2014 and June 2015. Never heard anything back from until after this attack.
I feel like this is true to an extent, when you’re dealing with actual nations. But for chaotic terrorist groups like ISIS and Al Qaeda you have to do something about it. If there’s a stable government, leave it, we can’t change them to “free” the people. It doesn’t work. But the terrorist groups need to be combated and the nations over there need to be in on it.
This guy is a freaking clown. Absolutely no basis in reality.
….ha……and Mr Paul mentions nothing about the control of pipelines going through Syria to Western Europe or the Iran GAS Deal…!
Not to mention the millions of refugees who have no clue just how much wealth they are actually leaving to hands of ISIS….! Kind of like all those people leaving Detroit but FAIL to realize just how much natural fracking gas the state of Michigan is sitting on. DO they not understand how to think like someone from ALASKA who gets a stipend from the natural resources each year for living there..? No wonder the Arabs are reported to be moving there………
OK, Ron, we tried this same strategy in 1930 with Germany, and how did that wall workout for us then???
Ron, the only good Defense is a Great Offense. Building walls never works. Forts get taken and all the inhabitants murdered. You can only hide your head in the sand so long before someone comes along and cuts it off: ISIS style.
send Ron Paul to infiltrate ISIS. He shares the same Jew hating ideology
It started with some murdering child rapist named Mohamed scribbling some drivel called the Quran and convincing people they needed to follow what it says. The only thing it has to do with us is that we do not believe that garbage. For that we are targeted. Never believe what a Muslim tells you because they will tell you what they think you want to hear. Before they cut your head off.