National Politics - 2016

Ted Cruz Brings Religious Liberty Message To South Carolina

SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE RALLY PLANNED FOR GREENVILLE  U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas will be joined on his next “First in the South” presidential swing by five “religious liberty heroes” – Americans his campaign says have been “targeted for their religious faith.” Cruz’s rally for religious liberty will be held in…

SOCIAL CONSERVATIVE RALLY PLANNED FOR GREENVILLE 

U.S. Senator Ted Cruz of Texas will be joined on his next “First in the South” presidential swing by five “religious liberty heroes” – Americans his campaign says have been “targeted for their religious faith.”

Cruz’s rally for religious liberty will be held in Greenville, S.C. on Saturday, November 14 on the campus of Bob Jones University (1700 Wade Hampton Boulevard).

Courtesy of the Cruz campaign, here are the biographies of those who will join him in Greenville to “share their stories of government abuse.”

·      Coach Joe Kennedy, an assistant football coach in Bremerton, Washington, who was recently placed on leave by his school district for praying silently on the field. Kennedy has been in the habit of praying at games since 2008, and was often joined by students. He is currently barred from participating in any activities related to the high school football program. 
 
·      Pastor David Welch of Texas was among the five pastors whose sermons and personal communications pertaining to homosexuality and transgender issues were subpoenaed by the mayor of Houston. The pastor was even ordered to turn over all communications with members of his congregation regarding a controversial law supported by the mayor’s office. The pastors refused to comply, and after local and national public outcry, Mayor Annise Parker ultimately rescinded the order. 
 
·      College student Angela Hildenbrand was valedictorian of her Texas high school in 2011 and was threatened with jail if she exercised her right to pray during her graduation speech. Thanks to an emergency motion from the Liberty Institute and support from Texas officials, the U.S. Court of Appeals overturned a district judge’s restraining order and Hildenbrand was allowed to exercise her constitutional rights. 
 
·      Dick and Betty Odgaard of Grimes, Iowa, will join Cruz. When the Odgaards declined to host a same-sex wedding ceremony in a historic chapel they owned, a complaint was filed with the Iowa Civil Rights Commission. The Odgaards were forced to settle, paid thousands of dollars in fines, and as a result have closed their wedding business.

“I am proud to be joined by such a heroic group of Americans,” Cruz said. “Increasingly, renegade government officials seek to coerce people of faith either to act in a manner that violates their faith or forfeit their career. The right to religious liberty built America. Denying that right is un-American, and it is morally wrong.”

Cruz held a similar religious liberty rally in Iowa back in August that drew more than 2,500 people.

(For our views on dueling liberties, click here).

According to the latest aggregate polling data from Real Clear Politics, Cruz is backed by 7.3 percent of the Palmetto State “Republican” electorate – putting him in fourth-place in the 12-person race.

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99 comments

Soft Sigh from Hell November 2, 2015 at 7:09 pm

Find a wooden stake.

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dwb619 November 2, 2015 at 7:12 pm

When I look at him I see “Grandpa” on the Munsters.

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edwin November 2, 2015 at 9:28 pm

When I look at Hilliary I see the same thing…

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pringlelegare November 2, 2015 at 9:30 pm

Good question…how many tens of millions of Wall Street monies are propping up Hildabeast?

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Rocky Verdad November 3, 2015 at 9:43 am

Enough to win.

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Writenow November 2, 2015 at 9:35 pm

omg – thank you! I kept wondering who Ted reminded me of. You’re right.
Ted is a ringer for Grandpa on the Munsters!

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dwb619 November 2, 2015 at 9:45 pm

And there ya’ go!
You are the smart one.
P.S. , I’m more of the TRUMP backer!

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Rakkasan November 3, 2015 at 9:01 am

You nailed it!! I was searching the memory for the cartoonish character he reminded me of but the closest I got was The Joker. Maybe we should create a hybrid and call him The Cruzer: more sinister than The Joker, but also a family man whose roots are in the 19th century. Has a black cape at home and big plans for the U.S.; he has expanded the scope of his goals from Gotham to the entire country.

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Rocky Verdad November 3, 2015 at 9:42 am

So who’s Herman? Failurina surely fits the Mom. Hee hee, I said FITS. And we Eddie running the House.

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nitrat November 3, 2015 at 9:56 am

Clean shaven, he bears a striking resemblance to the GOP’s infamous ‘Tailgunner’ Joe McCarthy.
Imagine a little mustache and he turns into Hitler.
It’s amazing.

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Bring it November 2, 2015 at 7:12 pm

Did he bring some Koch brothers money with him too?

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stumpknocker November 2, 2015 at 7:25 pm

stone casting christians, Jesus give the strength.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 8:50 pm

He is the pillar. We have our duty.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 9:05 pm

My duty is to fuck you in the ass.

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stumpknocker November 2, 2015 at 9:11 pm

who calls on you to do that duty, and by the way, there is no way

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flip November 2, 2015 at 9:39 pm

If that’s your job then I’ll hire you! LMAO!!!

Move over GrandTango there’s a new lover in town!

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 9:49 pm

Your ass is grass. U played into the trap ! I need you to keep banging away. Goood, good reply above. Thanks moron. !!!!!

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Cruz missile in my pants November 2, 2015 at 7:35 pm

“12 person clown car”

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Ringling Brothers November 2, 2015 at 7:41 pm

They’re putting us out of business. Even our best clowns don’t come close to beating their gimmick.

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stumpknocker November 2, 2015 at 7:41 pm

except christie, he bailed out the car, he is ready to take on all moderators

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Worn Suspension November 2, 2015 at 7:42 pm

Thank goodness, the shocks couldn’t take much more of him being in there.

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stumpknocker November 2, 2015 at 7:45 pm

i don’t know about that, that car has been carrying tons of shit for years and it keeps going strong.

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Writenow November 2, 2015 at 9:37 pm

Nah….we’re witnessing the long, slow, implosion of what’s left of the old fat, white-guy party. And good riddance!

stumpknocker November 2, 2015 at 9:07 pm

Like to have that Cruz missile in my ass.

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stumpknocker November 3, 2015 at 12:59 am

and i thought i was sick, pretending to me, hell is going to be a release for you

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 3, 2015 at 1:28 am

Savvy now ?

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Islamophobes Anonymous November 2, 2015 at 7:38 pm

If all those guys were Muslims practicing their religious liberty Cruz would be blowing a gasket.

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bbqporkrinds November 2, 2015 at 9:22 pm

Our Constitution is primarily an Islamic document, and all of our founding fathers were Muslims, right?

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Religious Freedom November 2, 2015 at 9:35 pm

Why does any of that matter? How many founding fathers were Jewish? Should we strip the Jews of their freedom of religion, expression, speech?

Where in the Constitution does it limit rights to Christian sects only?

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Bible Thumper November 2, 2015 at 11:11 pm

You lie! Cruz condemned Carson’s statement that a Muslin couldn’t be President.
http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2015/09/21/ted-cruz-excluding-muslims-presidency-unconstitutional/72563352/

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Roger November 2, 2015 at 8:07 pm

Cruz is not even an American. ..really an idiot.

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Oily Titz November 2, 2015 at 8:21 pm

I want to see his REAL birth certificate!

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TARevolution November 2, 2015 at 8:35 pm

There’s a PDF copy available (online only) of a live birth on a Microsoft form from 1961. I know, I’ve seen it. LMAO…

I didn’t know Microsoft was around in 1961?

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 8:56 pm

How bout your pdf files I have now. I’m going to wait, after Christmas. January, will be a great month.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 9:03 pm

Sorry bout that. Drunk tonight and just not myself. Being a lonely homo is tough.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 9:30 pm

Great, thanks for the input, my case is stronger now,.

flip November 3, 2015 at 6:41 am

You need to stop drinking and get your hands out of your pants.Weirdo.

GrandTango November 3, 2015 at 7:45 am

Flip doesn’t have his hands in his own pants, he has them in mine. All of you Liberal-Tarians are just jealous!

Rocky Verdad November 3, 2015 at 9:44 am

Hey Flip. Did you get your Kenny Bingham subpeana too?

TARevolution November 2, 2015 at 9:32 pm

Hit a nerve, huh???…LMAO…Even though you got away with it, it still pisses you off that we know…doesn’t it???…..

sacre November 2, 2015 at 9:23 pm

Yeah! I wanna see his college transcript, too!

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pete November 2, 2015 at 9:25 pm

Yawn…and neurosurgeon Dr. CARSON is really dense, too…right?

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Birthers For Cruz November 2, 2015 at 9:49 pm

Doesn’t matter.

That Constitution stuff only applies to Black Democrats.

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Constitutional Toilet Paper November 3, 2015 at 7:44 am

Beyond the first amendment for themselves and the second amendment, do they really even care about the rest of the Constitution?

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TARevolution November 2, 2015 at 8:36 pm

Sharia-Lives (ONLY) MATTER…

Cruz should know that in Obama’s America…

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Ernesto November 2, 2015 at 9:17 pm

Ayatollah Cruz would be the first one to issue a fatwa against what he perceives to be enemies of ‘religious freedo’ ( code for anybody to the left of him, which is a wide spectrum) if he’d ever be in a powerful enough position to do so.
Second generation exile -cubano, whose daddy is a disillusioned Castroist, A bitter old man with no remorse, while he would love to be reincarnated as the second coming of Batista.

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Writenow November 2, 2015 at 9:24 pm

God. The right to religious liberty means separation of church and state. Not THAT OTHERS HAVE TO ABIDE BY YOUR SCREWY BAPTIST RELIGION.

That when you can’t eat pork, don’t get a government job and then say, no one can eat pork.

As far as “renegade” That’s Ted. The open secret in DC is everyone hates him for being a pompous ass megalomaniac among well mannered megalomanic members.

Which means Ted should fit right in with the South Carolina’s less than charming liars, such as, Joe Wilson, Viers, Sanford. Is it something in the water?

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TARevolution November 2, 2015 at 9:31 pm

“separation of church and state”…

You DO realize Liberalism is a RELIGION…Based on that, I think you need to STFU…and quit making an ass of yourself.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 9:33 pm

I have the info to bust your ass with disqus, thanks moron !

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Rocky Verdad November 3, 2015 at 9:47 am

Just send it to Kenny Bingham’s attorney.

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Cult of TARD November 2, 2015 at 9:37 pm

If liberalism is a religion then you must be in a cult, you are a liberal plant to make Republicans look bad you jackass.

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Bible Thumper November 2, 2015 at 10:47 pm

Ted Cruz agrees with your first four paragraphs, which makes your last four paragraphs confusing.

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Bible Thumper November 2, 2015 at 11:06 pm

“liberty means separation of church and state.”
So why is the government telling the owner of a wedding chapel they must perform gay weddings?
Why was the pastor’s religious speech subpoenaed?

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climate3 November 3, 2015 at 8:01 pm

apparently the wedding chapel was a secular business. and the pastor’s sermons were subpoenaed because they sued the city over an lgbt ordinance and the city was gathering evidence that they may have endorsed political positions in their sermons. If you did a little research, u could easily find this stuff out.

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Bible Thumper November 3, 2015 at 10:56 pm

The suit was about the city rejecting a petition for a referendum on the LGBT rights law passed by the city. The mayor gave up on the subpoena and the court forced a referendum and the LGBT rights law was rejected today by two thirds of the voters.

If you did a little research, u could easily find this stuff out.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 9:38 pm

Now there is no doubt. You are impersonating others on discus. Get ready to find another comment site. January, you’re done. How bout that faggot ???

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Ur b& Legend November 2, 2015 at 9:40 pm

What are you talking about? Is flip going to get fucked in the ass? Please tell me he is. I’ll take a late Christmas present any day.

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 9:43 pm

Who knows, now discus knows there is a TROLL that is a PROBLEM. what they will do ?

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No Lube November 3, 2015 at 7:42 am

Fuck him in the ass hopefully.

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stumpknocker November 2, 2015 at 9:47 pm

fucked in the ass? flip does not deserve human touch. no he will have to present his ass with no takers

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 10:10 pm

As I stated before. If you use a discus members name to impersonate someone else. They can boot ya ! Ok have records of the person I think they will boot..The more the better. Love it.

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Orwell November 2, 2015 at 9:50 pm

Ted and Newt Gingrich have the same fatal flaw : always having to e the smartest guy in the room. Ted is an embarrassment in the 21 st century.
A fire-throwing religious fanatic whose religious intolerance is superseded only by his contempt for progressive politics and what he calls ‘the Wahingon cartel’ – a true believer, blind, full of hate and dangerous.

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TARevolution November 2, 2015 at 10:05 pm

You don’t have that problem of being the smartest in the room, I’m glad to report…

I’m sure You’re ALWAYS the most ignorant Motherfucker in the room…That’s obvious…LMAO…

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Rocky Verdad November 3, 2015 at 10:25 am

Don’t worry, during your deposition you won’t be the smartest guy in the room either.

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TroubleBaby November 3, 2015 at 12:00 pm

What’s even worse is he’ll be too stupid to realize it.

Anyway, so this whole “deposition” thing, is this reality or just something you’re screwing with him on?

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Rocky Verdad November 3, 2015 at 1:15 pm

Notice, you confront him with it on a thread, he disappears for like 12 hours. Yes, I’m screwing with him. Like playing with gerbils, or using a straw and a needle to shoot guppies in a sink.

Bible Thumper November 2, 2015 at 10:40 pm

Sounds like you are describing yourself. Add an “anti-” here and there. Religious freedom and rights is progressive.

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TARevolution November 2, 2015 at 10:07 pm

If Sen Cruz would just be vehement for Sharia, Obama would give him billions in federal aid…

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 10:12 pm

What a novel idea. Can we bottle it ?

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Sic Semper Tyrannis November 2, 2015 at 10:16 pm

My friend said he was amazed when you sucked that dogs dick. Damn, you are ducked up. !!!!

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CorruptionInColumbia November 2, 2015 at 10:08 pm

These twits don’t follow their own Bible’s instruction, yet make themselves out to be martyrs because of it. Seriously????

http://biblehub.com/matthew/6-6.htm

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Bible Thumper November 2, 2015 at 10:36 pm Reply
Quietus November 3, 2015 at 8:44 am

Simmer down now, simmer down.

You are both cherry picking to an extent. However in Matthew Jesus was speaking about the Pharisees and I think we can all agree that our modern politicians have much more in common with the Pharisees than you average run of the mill Christian.

From Matthew Henry’s Commentary:
The Scribes and Pharisees were guilty of two great faults in prayer, vain-glory and vain repetitions.

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Bible Thumper November 3, 2015 at 9:51 am

Vain glory and vain repetitions should not be crimes.

There are nunerous examples of public prayer, thanks and grace in the bible even including Jesus.

I have never been offended by public prayers of other faiths Regardless, offending someone should not be a crime.

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Quietus November 3, 2015 at 9:57 am

No one said it should be a crime, but if I were a politician trying to be a good Christina politician I think avoiding anything the Pharisees were involved with would be a good start. I’m not offended either and no offending anyone should not be a crime. My point was you were both cherry picking but CiC might have picked a little bit sweeter cherry for the discussion at hand.

Matthew Henry wasn’t implying legal guilt when he said guilty it was more guilty of the sin of….These would fall under pride would they not.

Bible Thumper November 3, 2015 at 10:02 am

The block excerpts in the article above did document religious rights being criminalized.

I would serve gays in a religious ceremony, but I defend those who refuse.

ThreePalms November 3, 2015 at 6:34 am

The college student and the football coach openly defy the US Constitution. The pastor and the wedding chapel operators continue to push the narrative that it is perfectly acceptable to discriminate against the LGBT community. Ted Cruz parades all of them around in front his salivating base. I’m confident that this stunt will go over very well in South Carolina, at that joke of a Sunday School, Bob Jones University, and many other places in the South, but I don’t think this creates a path to the White House. Why do Republicans cheer this stuff?

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flip November 3, 2015 at 6:39 am

1. Because Obama is a radical Islamic Muslim seeking to destroy the Judeo Christian foundation in this country.
2.Because Democrats are Godless,souless creatures.
3.Because it exposes you for what YOU are-EVIL.

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ThreePalms November 3, 2015 at 9:28 am

1, 2, and 3 expose you for what you are. One of the ignorant characters invited into the once respectable Republican party for your vote, but now infects the party to the point that is too sick to carry national elections and may be on its last days.

By all means, carry on.

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nitrat November 3, 2015 at 9:51 am

That is one of the most succinct commentaries on the 21st century once-upon-a-time Grand Old Party I have heard.

Reagan speechwriter Peggy Noonan was on ‘Morning Joe’ today lamenting the splintering into factions of the GOP.
She seemed oblivious – or, just did not want to admit – that Reagan set it ALL in motion by killing the Fairness Doctrine and facilitating the selling of citizenship to Rupert Murdoch so that he could realize Nixon’s dream and set up a permanent Republican propaganda operation with Nixon acolyte Roger Ailes.

The Republican Party and the nation would not be where it and we are today if Rush Limbaugh and Fox News had to operate under the Fairness Doctrine rules.

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Bible Thumper November 3, 2015 at 9:57 am

The consequences of free speech are not always pretty. The impact of the fairness docterine was to suppress speech not fairness.

The end of the “ffairness doctrine” is another one of Reagan’s achievements.

nitrat November 3, 2015 at 10:00 am

Just curious – Are you old enough to remember how the broadcast media operated with the Fairness Doctrine?

Bible Thumper November 3, 2015 at 10:06 am

Yes, radio was in decline. There was no political programs. I can’t name a radio pundit before Rush. Paul Harvey was it.

nitrat November 3, 2015 at 10:21 am

He operated in a local market and went national in 1987, the year after the death of the Fairness Doctrine.
But, radio in decline is not the issue and I don’t know if that’s
so. Do you think ripping apart the social fabric of the country with the kind of vitriol that Limbaugh represents has improved the country?
When the Fairness Doctrine was in effect, both sides had to be represented, not just the rantings and ravings of one side.
It was what fair and balanced really means.

Bible Thumper November 3, 2015 at 11:07 am

Our nation’s social fabric was in greater danger under the fairness doctrine which began in 1949.
McCarthyism
Civil rights movement
Vietnam War.

There was more violence under the fairness doctrine because outlets of protest on the airwaves were suppressed

It’s not just Limbaugh who is protected. Don’t forget Sharpton and others.

Whether Rush is good for the nation or not is not the role of government. We survived the “Yellow Jounalism” of the nineteenth century with our freedoms intact. I think we can survive Limbaugh. I’m not sure we would survive if the the government was the referee of free speech.

nitrat November 4, 2015 at 9:36 pm

Wow, you don’t understand how it worked AT ALL.

Bible Thumper November 4, 2015 at 11:17 pm

Liberals often fail to distinguish between good intentions and how things actually work. Instead of fairness, people’s voices were silenced.

I know it didn’t work, because their was hardly any political talk on radio under the fairness docterine. I suppose from your perspective it worked because the voices silenced were those you disagreed with.

Peter November 3, 2015 at 11:48 am

Oh yeah, there’s no vitriol coming from the left, huh? Come one, get real. You don’t listen to Limbaugh on a regular basis so stop with the unsubstantiated nonsense. It’s only “ripping the social fabric” of liberalism. There are plenty of “rantings and ravings” coming from all different sides. The bottom line is that you want to silence those you don’t agree and you don’t even know that you don’t agree with, you’ve just marginalized them in your head based on myths about them.

Rocky Verdad November 3, 2015 at 9:45 am

I thought we were a secular nation.

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Rakkasan November 3, 2015 at 8:50 am

Because fundamentalism. Fundamentalism has core principles; that they are speakers for God, THE holders of THE TRUTH. everyone who disagrees with them is not only wrong but inferior (and in extreme cases, subhuman–therefore no rights); that negotiating would imply and infer that the non-fundamentalists are equals, which is contrary to beliefs (or attitudes, at the least); that to get it “right” others need to think and be like them.

That smugness and condescension–that “sometimes wrong but never uncertain’ attitude you thought you sniffed, that black-and-white absolutism, well….

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tomstickler November 3, 2015 at 7:48 am

Then there is the “religious liberty” case right there in Texas. Home-schooling parents are being prosecuted for not teaching their nine children anything — because they expect to be raptured soon, so why bother?

How did Will miss this two-fer? http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/nation-world/national/article42322908.html

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TARevolution November 3, 2015 at 7:52 am

I bet your children were raptured when Obama became the King Deity of the Religion of the Democrat Party…

So WTF are you complaining about? We have to pay for what your false god is doing to our children…so you might better STFU about the Christians you hate….

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tomstickler November 3, 2015 at 7:54 am

I’m gonna post in the middle of the night sometime just to wake you up.

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lulz November 3, 2015 at 8:09 am

lulz

That’s pretty funny.

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Rakkasan November 3, 2015 at 8:26 am

This is an award-winning thread; it wins an award for the most angry, hostile trolling of any thread I’ve seen on FITS. Maybe you guys should should make a plan to all get together, have angry sex, and get it out of your system.

The Odgaards refused to rent their wedding chapel to a same-sex couple for a wedding after the husband learned it was a gay wedding. The couple stated that the wedding chapel is an “expression of their faith” and that is why they think they are being discriminated against. Seems to me that the wedding chapel is a business and renting it out is a commercial transaction or even contractual transaction. They settled for $5000 and admit that business had been slowing at the chapel of the last couple of years and that the boycotts that followed their refusal to rent were the final nail in forcing them to close their business.

So, seems they are complaining about having their perceived right to discriminate blocked, framing it as a “violation of their religious freedom”. Speaking of reframing, Cruz is a master.

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Ted Cooze November 3, 2015 at 10:50 am

I didn’t know they let spics onto the BJU campus. They need to keep them away from the white girls.

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Rocky Verdad November 3, 2015 at 11:10 am

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I know a guy who’s so good at autofellatio,he married himself.

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