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Guns, The Flag, The FBI … Dylann Roof Conspiracy Going Viral

EXPLANATIONS NEEDED …  || By FITSNEWS || U.S. President Barack Obama and 2016 Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton couldn’t wait for the blood to dry after last month’s tragic, racially motivated “Holy City Massacre” to launch a fresh assault on the Second Amendment. And we flatly rebuked them for it. That was…

EXPLANATIONS NEEDED … 

|| By FITSNEWS || U.S. President Barack Obama and 2016 Democratic presidential frontrunner Hillary Clinton couldn’t wait for the blood to dry after last month’s tragic, racially motivated “Holy City Massacre” to launch a fresh assault on the Second Amendment.

And we flatly rebuked them for it.

That was neither the time nor place for such shameless pandering to the far left … nor was the funeral of S.C. Senator Clementa Pinckney, one of the nine victims of the shooting.

But that didn’t stop Obama from doing it again.

Now it looks like Obama and Clinton have some serious explaining to do after the federal government’s gun control apparatus apparently screwed the pooch in permitting 21-year-old white supremacist Dylann Storm Roof to buy the .45-caliber handgun used during the Mother Emanuel AME Church shooting in downtown Charleston, S.C. last month.

“We are all sick this happened,” said James B. Comey, director of the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI). “We wish we could turn back time.”

Wait … what happened?

Well, Roof’s early 2015 arrest on drug charges – first obtained by FITS – would have prevented him from purchasing the weapon.  Unfortunately the FBI – which administers the National Instant Criminal Background Check System – couldn’t obtain Roof’s arrest record within a three-day window after April 11, when he first attempted to purchase the firearm.

Accordingly, Roof was able to legally purchase the weapon when he returned to the same store on April 14 (the law permits stores to sell weapons if the FBI doesn’t bar them from doing so after a three-day period).

In other words the government system broke down – and the FBI began calling members of the victim’s families on Friday to inform them of the breakdown.

Ready for some predictions?

1- The government will use this as an opportunity to eliminate the three-day rule – thus making all gun sales in America contingent on federal approval, which may or may not ever come.

2- Hundreds of millions of tax dollars will be spent studying and upgrading the FBI’s background check system so that “nothing like this ever happens again.” You know, until it happens again.  Because “government fail = more money.” Rinse/ repeat.  Rinse/ repeat.

3- No one in government will lose their job over this.

What won’t be discussed?

1- The fact that more guns = less crime.  Or that the citizens of the United States, you know, have the right to keep and bear arms.

2- The curious timing of the release of this information (literally the moment the Confederate flag was being removed from the grounds of the S.C. State House).  Seriously: The feds have been investigating this shooting for almost a month.  When in the course of that investigation did they stumble upon this information?  And if it was more than a week ago, did they keep it under wraps because it would have slowed momentum for taking the flag down? 

3- The fact Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton deserve to eat some serious crow in the aftermath of their rush to politicize this tragedy.

Stay tuned …

This just got interesting.

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76 comments

Fecal Matters July 10, 2015 at 4:36 pm

Drink.

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shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 8:53 pm

“Drinking makes you look beautiful.”
“I don’t drink.”
“I do.”
—————————-
He ordered a Banker’s Cocktail for her.
One drink you lose interest ….. two drinks you lose principal.
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She drank so much she got weak in the nays.

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Masses Rip Your Throat Out July 10, 2015 at 4:39 pm

Anything beyond 3 days is a infringement upon an inalienable constitution right and steps over the threshold into criminal conduct by government. Check the statutes of law and case law.

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tomstickler July 10, 2015 at 4:47 pm

Some additional info: the FBI background check examiner who evaluated Roof’s request to buy a gun never saw the arrest report because the wrong arresting agency that was listed on the list rap sheet that she reviewed.

That does not sound like an FBI screw-up, if the agent could not confirm the rap sheet because someone in Columbia screwed up.

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edr July 10, 2015 at 8:09 pm

The Mall sits on the Lexington and Richland County border.
The city of Columbia police arrested Roof twice,
One case shows up on Lexington County Clerk of Court
and one case ended up on Richland County Clerk of Court

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truthmonger July 11, 2015 at 10:00 am

No, one ended up in the Lexington Solicitor’s Office (drug charge), and one ended up in CITY court (the trespassing, I believe they said it was).

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Scooter July 10, 2015 at 9:52 pm

Bush’s fault.

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truthmonger July 11, 2015 at 9:58 am

Nope, it was the computer system on the FBI end, that has been established (all the way down to the error itself). He was booked into the Lexington County jail (since the offense happened in Lexington county). The feds called Lexington County, and were told “Columbia”. The agent looked it up by county (ORI prefix SC032) and got WEST Columbia as the ONLY Columbia in that county. Columbia’s ORI prefix is SC040 (Richland county). Understandable mistake, and a COMPUTER DB failure.
I get it that you hate Columbia, but a little reading comprehension goes a LONG way, moron.

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CorruptionInColumbia July 11, 2015 at 11:02 am

Wow! It is scary to imagine that they haven’t figured out a way to reconcile municipal ORI’s that are split among two or more counties in this day and time. I am sure this happens all over the country (Atlanta, for instance). Thanks for the update and clarification.

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tomstickler July 14, 2015 at 8:51 am

“Lexington County Sheriff Jay Koon told The Associated Press on Monday that a clerk at his jail entered in the incorrect location for Roof’s drug arrest in February. That meant an FBI examiner using records from a state database couldn’t find the details about the arrest when Roof wanted to buy a gun.

Still want to maintain the error was the fault of the FBI, rather than law enforcement in South Carolina? BTW, where did I ever say I hate Columbia?

The AP article states further that even though the Lexington County jail corrected the paperwork error in two days, the correction was not forwarded to SLED, which maintains the database the FBI was checking.

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linthead sandlapper July 10, 2015 at 4:51 pm

To be fair to our satanic overlords, you can’t uphold Obamacare, institute the rainbow nazi sodomite state religion, take down the symbols of white heritage, AND come after guns all in one week now can you?

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Bystander July 10, 2015 at 6:15 pm

I sure hope not, but Superbarry is defiantly on a role.

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9" July 10, 2015 at 4:57 pm

You’ve exploited this tragedy,too,and continue to do so…

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TroubleBaby July 10, 2015 at 6:33 pm

The thing that upsets me most about it, is that he’s almost completely ignored the machinations of SC’s corrupt government during this time.

It’s almost 24/7 flag/shooting stuff. Just a few articles on other subjects now and then.

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9" July 10, 2015 at 7:30 pm

He’s a click hustler.The real irony here;white people put the flag up,and white people took the flag down,ie,SC’s politicians

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MashPotato July 10, 2015 at 7:41 pm

Will runs the best news site in the state, possibly country, and he gets flak for paying the bills.

Here’s a suggestion: if you see something he hasn’t reported on and should, send him a news tip. If you know something that everyone should know, write your own article and submit it to him.

The only reason not to do those things is because then you’ll be subject to the same couch potato criticisms of journalistic integrity this comment section is saturated with.

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9" July 11, 2015 at 5:39 pm

To quote ZZ Top:I gotsta get paid.This is something everybody needs to know…Please buy one

http://www.amazon.com/Here-About-Blow-T-Shirt-White/dp/B000VTD1OC?

Exactly July 10, 2015 at 8:49 pm

The system did mess up. That’s why it needs tightening up. Our lack of gun controls needs to be addressed. Too many people on anti-depressants possess guns. That needs to change.

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truthmonger July 11, 2015 at 9:48 am

One problem…. it has been almost impossible to obtain information on those who have been committed or adjudicated mentally incompetent. Further, families tend to avoid treatment to keep family members from BEING committed or adjudicated (embarrassment). As to antidepressants, too many doctors prescribe them when they shouldn’t… we’re turning into a medicated society. When I was a substitute teacher, I was APPALLED at the number of kids that were on drugs, mostly because the traditional ways of dealing with misbehaving youth were verboten.

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9" July 11, 2015 at 6:08 pm

The only drug I know he was on is Suboxone which is used for opiate withdrawals, and he’d quit taking them.The fact that he stayed at the church for over an hour,points to an acute psychotic episode.Mass murderers are usually mentally ill.It’s too bad the reaction was taking down the flag instead of reopening the state hospital.

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JayJay July 15, 2015 at 8:38 pm

The guy had a little brain matter between his ears. He choose a .45 cal for close quarter and multiple targets and got the job done.

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common sense July 17, 2015 at 4:40 pm

too many people have guns illegally so law abiding citizens are getting killed because they can’t protect themselves. If I were a criminal and knew that my potential victims were armed, I may not be as likely to commit the crime. It’s not so much fun when someone shoots back.

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Squishy123 July 10, 2015 at 5:13 pm

” tragic, racially motivated ”

This blog is getting to be a tragic, racially motivated blog.

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Victorious Secret July 10, 2015 at 5:21 pm

He swapped “horrific” for “tragic” and thought we wouldn’t notice.

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The Colonel July 10, 2015 at 7:15 pm

Damn it, I was ready for a Coke and rum…

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9" July 10, 2015 at 7:35 pm

Cuba Libre ! Be careful w/that tiny rebel flag stuck in the lime wedge…

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The Colonel July 10, 2015 at 7:39 pm

I’ll drink to that! Now where’d the lime juice get to…

shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 8:35 pm

The man asked the bartender to suggest a drink. “Rum flip,” says the bartender. “It has sugar, milk and rum. The sugar gives you energy, the milk strength.”
“What does the rum give you?”
“Ideas about what to do with the energy and strength.”

shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 8:36 pm

“Going out tonight?”
“Not completely!”

Squishy123 July 10, 2015 at 5:14 pm

Considering that Will gets paid for the traffic on this website, the death of these nine people has been a windfall for him. Why do you think he’s been milking this tragic, racially motivated event for all it’s worth?

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loisdeboid July 10, 2015 at 5:47 pm

It sure gets you here.

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Squishy123 July 10, 2015 at 7:08 pm

I’m preparing to make Will an offer, a commission offer.

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Sandi Morals July 10, 2015 at 6:00 pm

Business is business.

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RogueElephant July 11, 2015 at 3:37 pm

It’s called maximizing a business opportunity. Any businessman that doesn’t do it won’t be a businessman long.

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Victorious Secret July 10, 2015 at 5:24 pm

Will

The “Three Day Rule” is used by the feds merely to determine the disposition of someone’s arrest. If one haven’t been arrested, then it takes about 3 minutes for confirmation. I’ve proven this over a dozen times myself.

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truthmonger July 11, 2015 at 9:51 am

Except when they have people confused, and that happens a LOT. Shoot, For several years I was ALWAYS delayed because some criminal out west had the same date of birth I did.

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erneba July 10, 2015 at 5:41 pm

Obama and Hillary are capable of taking a “Horrific/Tragic” event and fabricating a political scenario strategy that involves tailoring and misusing facts, distorting reality, warping time, inventing motives, and otherwise doing what they have to do for their political purposes. In other words they are capable of speaking falsely or uttering an untruth knowingly.
It is called “politics,” all politicians do it, and these two are really good at it.

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Sandi Morals July 10, 2015 at 5:58 pm

Haley drove the getaway car.She is a disgrace.The slut/whore now has fellow Democrat Boehner asking the congress to address ALL Confederate symbols for elimination from society.

Haley is a Democrat that has damaged the GOP in 2016. She has opened a door for what you speak above-and it won’t EVER be shut.Already Democrats are attaching things to legislation to eliminate Confederate symbols and are so emboldened by the surrender by liar Haley they are seeking to eliminate the phrase ‘man and woman’ from federal laws involving marriage.

She has essentially defined Christians,Republicans,whites and HER voters as racists.

I believe Will Folks and IF that ‘affair’ is true and she has LIED about this for a decade she is unfit for ANY political office.

Nikki is a traitor to herself,family, the State of South Carolina and her voters.

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erneba July 10, 2015 at 6:13 pm

There are some people that fear that the momentum gained over the last few week will metastasize into further actions. On some people’s part there is already a movement to label Republicans, Conservatives and people that do and don’t approve of actions taken so far as “racists,” no matter if they agree or disagree with taking down the flag. It is happening now and it also happens here.
I am OK with what has taken place so far,(Removing the Flag) but further actions on any front using this tragedy as an excuse should examined closely and not accepted irrationally or on an impulse.

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Sandi Morals July 10, 2015 at 6:32 pm

Train out of control now. Excellent points.

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Soft Sigh from Hell July 10, 2015 at 6:14 pm

Yet you GOPers elected her . . . twice.

I suspect the problem is you fringers and that the GOP base (save the Klanfderates) likes her just fine.

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Rocky July 10, 2015 at 7:56 pm

Yup. “Sandi Morals” a.k.a flip/pogo was one of the biggest Haley cheerleaders on this site during the election.

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Rocky Verdad July 10, 2015 at 8:22 pm

Not me.

Soft Sigh from Hell July 10, 2015 at 6:19 pm

What is the law? People simply arrested can’t buy guns? It can’t be that. Arrested but before the verdict?

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Tazmaniac July 12, 2015 at 9:23 am

I’m pretty sure the NICS questionnaire asks about arrests and convictions.

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Elfego July 10, 2015 at 6:32 pm

The Feds say Roof should not have been able to buy a Gun with his background. Folks buying a gun is not the problem. Juan Francisco Lopez-Sanchez killed Kate Stenile with a stolen Firearm that belonged to a Federal Agent. It supposedly was taken from his car. When Americans wake up to the fact that government agents cannot protect us and do the research on the blunders they commit they have to come to the Conclusion government is the largest problem. Geraldo Rivera a few minutes ago made the same argument for him and his Liberal friends but not a word was mention about Kate Stenile. These folks both Liberal and Conservative that are blinded by their ideology say things that turn out to be foolish and the average American does not realize it. Like th eold saying keep them fat and pregnant and on welfare and we will control you!

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Sandi Morals July 10, 2015 at 6:36 pm

Haley has allowed this by jumping in bed with the Democrats.I saw her new BFF Clyburn was standing right behind Pelosi today when she was calling Republicans racists.

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CNSYD July 10, 2015 at 6:54 pm

Downgrade from horrific to tragic. Colonel, Folks is affecting our wager.

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The Colonel July 10, 2015 at 7:16 pm

Do we accept horrific or call it off?

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shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 8:30 pm

Overheard: I couldn’t understand how that girl drank so much liquor.
I finally found out in an ordinary arithmetic book. It said one gal is equal to four quarts.

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The Colonel July 10, 2015 at 7:14 pm

I pointed this out three weeks ago, welcome to the party.

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shifty henry July 10, 2015 at 8:20 pm

I AM WEARY……..

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Chris Memminger July 10, 2015 at 9:12 pm

The meager controls we have did not work thus further controls are futile and more guns and less oversight is the answer. Nathan Bedford Forrest would be proud.

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The Colonel July 10, 2015 at 10:50 pm

I wonder why you drag Nathan Bedford Forrest into this?

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truthmonger July 11, 2015 at 10:13 am

A little about Nathan Bedford Forrest the Left DOESN’T want you to hear:

Forrest’s speech to the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association July 5, 1875.

A convention and BBQ was held by the Independent Order of Pole-Bearers Association at the fairgrounds of Memphis, five miles east of the city. An invitation to speak was conveyed to General Nathan Bedford Forrest, one of the city’s most prominent citizens, and one of the foremost cavalry commanders in the late War Between the States. This was the first invitation granted to a white man to speak at this gathering. The invitation’s purpose, one of the leaders said, was to extend peace, joy, and union, and following a brief welcoming address a Miss Lou Lewis, daughter of an officer of the Pole-Bearers, brought forward flowers and assurances that she conveyed them as a token of good will. After Miss Lewis handed him the flowers, General Forrest responded with a short speech that, in the contemporary pages of the Memphis Appeal, evinces Forrest’s racial open-mindedness that seemed to have been growing in him.

Ladies and Gentlemen I accept the flowers as a memento of reconciliation between the white and colored races of the southern states. I accept it more particularly as it comes from a colored lady, for if there is any one on God’s earth who loves the ladies I believe it is myself. ( Immense applause and laughter.) I came here with the jeers of some white people, who think that I am doing wrong. I believe I can exert some influence, and do much to assist the people in strengthening fraternal relations, and shall do all in my power to elevate every man to depress none. (Applause.) I want to elevate you to take positions in law offices, in stores, on farms, and wherever you are capable of going. I have not said anything about politics today. I don’t propose to say anything about politics. You have a right to elect whom you please; vote for the man you think best, and I think, when that is done, you and I are freemen. Do as you consider right and honest in electing men for office. I did not come here to make you a long speech, although invited to do so by you. I am not much of a speaker, and my business prevented me from preparing myself. I came to meet you as friends, and welcome you to the white people. I want you to come nearer to us. When I can serve you I will do so. We have but one flag, one country; let us stand together. We may differ in color, but not in sentiment Many things have been said about me which are wrong, and which white and black persons here, who stood by me through the war, can contradict. Go to work, be industrious, live honestly and act truly, and when you are oppressed I’ll come to your relief. I thank you, ladies and gentlemen, for this opportunity you have afforded me to be with you, and to assure you that I am with you in heart and in hand. (Prolonged applause.)

Whereupon N. B. Forrest again thanked Miss Lewis for the bouquet and then gave her a kiss on the cheek. Such a kiss was unheard of in the society of those days, in 1875, but it showed a token of respect and friendship between the general and the black community and did much to promote harmony among the citizens of Memphis.

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The Colonel July 10, 2015 at 10:24 pm

This worthless sack of skin is proof that we have plenty of gun laws and suck at enforcing them.

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Speak D Truth July 10, 2015 at 11:03 pm

Maybe he wouldn’t have been able to buy this gun but he would have still bought a gun from a guy on the street or broken in to a home and stole one.
I love a chance to blame Obama and the government did screw up but if this kid was determined to get a gun then he was gonna get a gun.

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truthmonger July 11, 2015 at 10:09 am

Kinda like cocaine. If you want it, you’ll eventually find it.

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Buddy Miles July 11, 2015 at 2:30 am

Seven miles away, as the bird fly’s, DHS had “active shooter” training at joint base charleston the day Roof murdered nine. DHS has been waiting years for a right wing extremist like Roof to come along. The idea originated from a think tank at West Point. Yet, gun control failed. The FBI dropped the ball on the background check. Will someone get fired? or will “tweaking” the system be required?

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tomstickler July 11, 2015 at 2:32 pm

You really have to dig deep into the conspiracy world to come across the “active shooter” training. What deterred you from making the “false flag” allegation?

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Buddy Miles July 12, 2015 at 2:58 am

No digging necessary. It was their last day at the training center.
No conspiracy. It was in 2010 that West Point released the results of their study stating the high likelihood of “right wing extremism”.

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POGO July 11, 2015 at 7:29 am

The Federal Government is much too big and cumbersome. The right hand does not know what the left is doing and the entirety of the Govt. is incompetent! Too many Liberal rules, regulations, laws, guidelines, etc.
Who passed the ridiculous Hippa Laws where, mental Health records are sealed..LIBERALS!
Who is responsible for the Unions where, NO ONE IS EVER FIRED for INCOMPETENCE..Liberals!
Who created the SANCTUARY CITIES where, illegal hide out and commit more crimes..LIBERALS!
Who sat on their hands and allowed AMERICANS to get SLAUGHTERED in BENGAZI…LIBERALS!
Who sent a failed rescue attempt to rescue AMERICAN HOSTAGES in IRAN and then, with their meddling caused the mission to fail..LIBERALS.
Who with their meddling, running the Viet Nam War from the White House lost the Viet Nam War…LIBERALS.
Who with their MEDDLING and rules of engagement are causing ISIS, the JV team, to run rampant in the MIDEAST, SLAUGHTERING THOUSANDS..LIBERALS.
Who with their incompetence, by NOT SEALING our borders are allowing ISIS and ILLEGALS to flood this Country and KILL, MURDER, RAPE, ROB our CITIZENS..LIBERALS!
Whose incompetent appointments and management allowed AMERICANS to have their SS numbers and PRIVATE info to be STOLEN..LIBERALS and NIKKI HALEY!
Who appointed incompetent people to oversee DSS and Children were murdered…NIKKI HALEY!
No real difference in Government wherever you look!
Most all Politicians are no different, are incompetent and we continue to elect and re-elect!!

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johnq July 11, 2015 at 7:56 am

Who makes up the difference between what South Carolina pays in taxes to the fed and what it gets back…Liberals. If it wasn’t for the “liberal” affluent states making up the difference South Carolina would be more of a third world shithole than it already is. Time for some tough love for these ignorant bigots. Cut them off and watch them starve.

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truthmonger July 11, 2015 at 10:08 am

Actually, you might not understand that those numbers claiming SC gets back more than it pays in include paychecks for military and federal retirees who have moved to SC. Oh, and the military bases and those paychecks. Much of what SC gets falls into those categories. Just your lack of understanding what you are talking about.

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nitrat July 11, 2015 at 8:24 am

More guns = less crime – –
I love it when you keep reporting refuted 20+ year old data as ‘fact’.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2014/11/14/more-guns-more-crime-new-research-debunks-a-central-thesis-of-the-gun-rights-movement/

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truthmonger July 11, 2015 at 10:02 am

Actually, the data IS NOT refuted, and has actually been supported by DOJ studies. Not that you would care about facts….

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Max July 11, 2015 at 8:29 am

I have said it befor and will say it again. The really bad force of evil in this whole drama has been that bowl hair cut. It is more evil than the Kardashians and Jenny Sanford together.

Remember, guns don’t kill people, bad bowl haircuts do.

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Elfego July 11, 2015 at 12:01 pm

What about the Gun that Kate Stenile was killed with? It belonged to a Federal Agent. Why have we not heard anything about Miriam Carey the young Black women that was killed by several Federal Weapons in DC? When will we wise up to the fact that Government is the real problem along with the so called Mainstream Media that carries the water for them. Tunnel Vision is destroying America along with our stupidity

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Dik Chain Knee July 11, 2015 at 12:18 pm

Looks like I’m getting charged for a hate crime.

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tomstickler July 11, 2015 at 2:44 pm

When Dylann Roof reached for the door at Mother Emanuel church, his .45 Glock was not visible in the security cam photo. What was visible was the fact that he was wearing body armor. Where did that come from?

https://i2.wp.com/s1.ibtimes.com/sites/www.ibtimes.com/files/styles/v2_article_large/public/2015/06/18/charleston-shooting-suspect.jpg?zoom=2

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Tazmaniac July 12, 2015 at 9:14 am

I’ve always said there plenty of Gun Laws, now all we need is people qualified to enfore them. The FBI must have been too busy jacking a veteran around about his purchase to notice the flag on Roof’s.

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John July 12, 2015 at 1:17 pm

(1) You exploit everything. You’re a demagogue and clickbait peddler so you can’t really talk to anyone about exploiting a tragedy or anything else.

(2) “That was neither the time nor place for such shameless pandering to the far left … nor was the funeral of S.C. Senator Clementa Pinckney, one of the nine victims of the shooting.” Let me reword this so that what you really meant is clear:

“No one (particularly not the man Sen. Pinckney’s family selected to deliver his eulogy) should have talked about the things S.C. Senator Clementa Pinckney, one of the nine victims of the shooting, believed and fought tirelessly for at his funeral because he was unabashedly liberal and persecuted white conservatives (who can go to church without fear of being shot but have to bear the burden of no longer denying that racism still exists) are offended by it.”

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Nölff July 13, 2015 at 7:49 am

Guns don’t kill people; bullets do.

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John Wolf July 14, 2015 at 2:01 am

The error was on the part of SC Law enforcement administrators – Not The FBI. Obama’s comments were on in SC laws entitling Concealed Cary gun owners to enter the House of the Lord armed to settle grievances . The same Stand Your Ground/ Canceled Carry law entitles them to enter your home to settle their grievances with you and concealed weapons will give them the element of surprise. SC Sheriff’s won’t enforce SC’s current liberal gun laws so they will receive NRA Enforcement. Canceled Carry is in direct conflict with the 2nd Amendment/Castle doctrine & the two cannot co-exist. The next time the NRA asks you for money after a tragedy massacre think if that might be very cynical, and you might be burning both ends of the candle towards the middle. As a former NRA supporter I saw the light after Colorado Move massacre. I can’t except Sandy Hook as just a norm in protecting the 2nt amendment right. If laws exempt a certain group of people form killing unarmed people, they cannot be considered well regulated.

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