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Black Bike Week: Return Of “Black Codes?”

CRITICS QUESTION PROPOSED NEW MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. ORDINANCES || By FITSNEWS || Remember black biker week?  It’s back … and officials in Myrtle Beach, S.C. are approving new laws aimed at controlling what they’ve publicly described as an “uncontrollable” event. So … yeah … what’s the point of that again?…

CRITICS QUESTION PROPOSED NEW MYRTLE BEACH, S.C. ORDINANCES

|| By FITSNEWS || Remember black biker week?  It’s back … and officials in Myrtle Beach, S.C. are approving new laws aimed at controlling what they’ve publicly described as an “uncontrollable” event.

So … yeah … what’s the point of that again?

Nonetheless, two ordinances preliminarily approved by Myrtle Beach, S.C. city council give police sweeping powers to define black biker week as an “extraordinary event,” and to further “define riot and unlawful assembly, and declare unlawful the participation in same and the failure to disperse.”

Coastal journalist Paul Gable of Grand Strand Daily is concerned the ordinances could have the unintended consequence of suppressing political speech.

“It applies to both public and private property,” Gable wrote.  “Therefore a protest on private property could be ordered to disperse if the police don’t like what is being said.”

Not only that, Gable says there’s a racial element to the laws as well that evokes a frightening historical precedent.

“With three or more persons acting together considered a riot, the ordinance is reminiscent of the infamous Black Codes of 150 years ago,” he wrote

According to Gable, Myrtle Beach police chief Warren Gall and Horry County emergency management director Randy Webster have pressed council members into “passing what amounts to de facto martial law ordinances.”

With no guarantee the measures will make anyone safer …

Three South Carolinians died of gunshot wounds during a shooting at last year’s black biker week, prompting S.C. governor Nikki Haley to call for an end to the annual Memorial Day weekend event.

Of course Haley can protest all she wants, it’s not going to stop people from going where they please …

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130 comments

Call (the right) Cops April 17, 2015 at 5:27 pm

Black Bike Week is a job for Michael Slager – SuperCop.

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shifty henry April 17, 2015 at 7:22 pm

San Bernardino Sheriff’s Deputies…..

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tomstickler April 17, 2015 at 5:33 pm

Thanks for giving the “hat tip” to Gable for this story.

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euwe max April 17, 2015 at 5:36 pm Reply
GrandTango April 17, 2015 at 6:14 pm

….”concerned the ordinances could have the unintended consequence of suppressing political speech.”….

FITS…you’re a F*#king idiot…

Three people were murdered there last year…and you’re trying to play SCOTUS…

When you have armchair DUMB-@$$#$ like FITS—pontificating your rights to free speech…no wonder women are putting babies in trash cans…and old people are being brutalized and killed in the Knock-out game…while Maj. Nadal Hasan sits in a country club prison…whacking-off to CNN….

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Nothing New Under the Sun April 17, 2015 at 6:32 pm

So the constitution only applies when GrandTango says it applies. Hitler, Stalin, Mao, Kim Jong-Un, Mahmoud Ahmadineja, and Castro all approve.

Oh and just and FYI when you are going to place blame, place it on the correct party.

Coastal journalist Paul Gable of Grand Strand Daily is concerned the ordinances could have the unintended consequence of suppressing political speech.

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GrandTango April 17, 2015 at 7:40 pm

To the contrary…and it’s typical you cannot follow logic…

When you let pop culture Dumb@$$#$ – like FITS and the paranoid–idiots he references – interpret the Constitution for you…as we have now…you get a very F*#ked up and violent society…

We need responsible, pro-American adults in charge…not immature and immoral fools…like FITS and Co.

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Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 2:36 am

FITS is in charge? Really? Imma ask him for job, then.

Thanks for the tip, GT!

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On the other hand April 17, 2015 at 10:28 pm

People are murdered in Myrtle Beach all the time. It doesn’t take a bike festival to make that happen.

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GrandTango April 18, 2015 at 7:22 am

Yeah, you’re right.Bikefest is no different, and not any more violent, than the tiddlywinks convention. ……you colossal Dumb@$$…..

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guest April 18, 2015 at 9:53 am

Boz is clueless. He likes Black Bike week cause he can wear a thong and hitchhike on a crotch rocket from Murrels Inlet to the local homeless shelter in MB for free groceries…???

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Squishy123 April 17, 2015 at 6:19 pm

But, but, but… what about the boycott?

Now make it legal for businesses to shut down anytime they want to, and not to penalize businesses who will experience shoplifting, theft, patrons skipping out on bills for meals, etc…

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No shirt, no shoes, no service April 17, 2015 at 7:08 pm

“Now make it legal for businesses to shut down anytime they want to”

If they did that, they wouldn’t need to pass any laws because half, if not more of them, would close down that week lessening the reason for those of ill will to show up.

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GrandTango April 17, 2015 at 6:30 pm

Hey FITS: Machinists cancel union vote at Boeing

LMAO….

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Squishy123 April 17, 2015 at 6:31 pm

What does that have to do with this article?

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easterndumbfuckistan April 17, 2015 at 6:35 pm

When his tourettes kicks in he post random unrelated content all over FITSNEWS.

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Squishy123 April 17, 2015 at 7:37 pm

Yeah, he’s kind of our little resident retard.

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Special Ned April 18, 2015 at 10:46 am

u top u talk a bad a bout retodds us not like a big tango

GrandTango April 17, 2015 at 7:42 pm

Hate to have it noted, when you liberal idiots get bent and reamed…LMAO…

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Squishy123 April 17, 2015 at 7:45 pm

Here’s a challenge for you… name one regular poster here who supports anything you say. Everyone here just laughs at you… you’re as big of a joke as your failed blog.

Will – About that Ignore button…

GrandTango April 17, 2015 at 8:51 pm

I’m not running for office you F*#king idiot…I’m here to slap the S#!t out of the ignorant…that does not make me popular w/ the Dumb@$$#$ – like you – who support the disaster of the Democrat Party….

That said: you do hang on every word…because even for the stupid, there is something deep down inside of you that tells you, I make a H#!! of lot more sense than that Bull-$#!t they keep feeding you down at the DNC…that makes you look like Fools, over and over…

Squishy123 April 17, 2015 at 10:14 pm

Where do I think or say you were running for office? I asked you to produce one person who backs anything you say. You come here say a bunch of stupid shit unrelated to the story and get into arguments.. that’s the extent of your existence on this blog. I really don’t understand why you continue to come here, because nobody sides with you and are viewed as a joke around here. The only reason Will keeps you around is because your visits count as hits which means money for Will. He loves you coming around here and trying to stir shit up.

Bible Thumper April 17, 2015 at 10:11 pm

Nothing. But IAM/Boeing has everything to do with having a South Carolina political website. Why is fits silent? Perhaps Will is embarrassed or a hypocrite.

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euwe max April 17, 2015 at 6:50 pm

and in other news…

Hillary Clinton: absolutely free-trade proposal

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Forbidden! April 17, 2015 at 7:55 pm

This is what I saw when I clicked the link to Gable’s story:

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You don’t have permission to access /atlantic-beach-bikefest/ on this server.

Additionally, a 403 Forbidden error was encountered while trying to use an ErrorDocument to handle the request.

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Zone Alarm April 17, 2015 at 10:32 pm

It opened just fine for me.

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Putney Swope April 17, 2015 at 8:46 pm

These laws are unconstitutional but before that is proven that weekend will be ten time the disaster it has been in the past.

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euwe max April 17, 2015 at 10:54 pm

The Right’s *sex symbol* has something to say about the constitution!

http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ann-coulter-voting-literacy-tests

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Elfego April 17, 2015 at 8:55 pm

We do not need ordinances we need more folks carrying. Last evening I saw a bunch of Jungle Bunnies jump a black man in Memphis,Tenn for walking a white lady who was afraid to her car. Blacks are doing this all over this country and White folks better arm themselves and I truly believe this. Young blacks in crowds act like something out of a jungle that do not know how to act civilized and the older cheer leaders like Sharpton,Jackson,Holder and Obama spur it on with their rhetoric.

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Zone Alam April 17, 2015 at 10:31 pm

Who do racist creeps like you spur on with your rhetoric?

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euwe max April 17, 2015 at 10:53 pm

They’re changing hearts and minds, one liberal at a time. You have to admit – the intensity and clarity of their intelligence is compelling.

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Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 3:21 am

Effin’ cretins like that are a major part of the problem. Always gotta put the booger on blacks, though, no matter what. It ultimately insures that Ferguson-level civic disharmony will never abate where they live and vote.

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euwe max April 18, 2015 at 3:32 pm

Israel and the Palestinians – peace means they lose.

Elfego April 18, 2015 at 9:39 am

If what I see makes me a racist the world is in a terrible position. Of course folks with Tunnel Vision see only what they wish. If I am a racist I wear it as a badge of honor!

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euwe max April 18, 2015 at 3:20 pm

If what I see makes me a racist

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It’s not what you see that makes you a racist. Look at it this way… you’re probably a big gun enthusiast. It’s not shooting a gun with relish that makes you a murderer, it’s what you shoot with it, and how much you enjoy killing with it. If you shoot a tin can with a yee-haw and a fist pump, or a silhouette of Hillary on it, that’s one thing, but if you shoot your pet while it’s sleeping, or your mother when she gets back from shopping.. that’s another.

It’s the zeal with which you shoot someone – even if you think they deserve it, that makes you a bad guy.

See? Now that I’ve explained it with *guns* it’s all pretty simple when you stop and really think about it, away from your racist, rat bastard friends.

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Elfego April 18, 2015 at 5:21 pm

I have dealt with all kind of folks in my life and have met very few of any race worse than what I have seen since I retired. I own several weapons but have never shot anyone. I take exception to you trash and would not mind slapping the spit from you eyes. You are lower than whale dung and it is at the bottom of the ocean and I do not know you but my opinion is more accurate probably than yours!

euwe max April 18, 2015 at 5:38 pm

I’m in good company, I’m sure.

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 5:40 pm

Anyone who threatens to shoot you, even veiled is nothing more than dung who deserves no answer. Hit the ignore button.

euwe max April 18, 2015 at 5:47 pm

Aw.. don’t be too hard on him.. he doesn’t know who or where his father is, can’t remember the last time he made it through a day in the trailer park without getting passed out drunk, a new tattoo. a fight, quitting or being fired.

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 5:50 pm

For once, you actually make sense Euwe, contrary to the fact I do realize there is some sarcasm there. I think know who you are. You once called me Mother Mary (I said I did not deserve that title)? Hmmm….our politics did not match, but we were still friends.

euwe max April 18, 2015 at 5:51 pm

All I am is keystrokes in the mist. :)

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 5:52 pm

I doubt that ;)

Elfego April 18, 2015 at 8:18 pm

I am sure you should know!

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 10:23 pm

I have no idea what you have against Euwe, and while I have no love for him, your comment eeks of racist BS.

You are just mean. Hateful. Likely unskilled. Your opinion is what is wrong with American, not right.

Buz Martin April 20, 2015 at 8:29 am

Yeah, that guy’s just rabidly racist. He does sound like one of those white supremacist ex-cons. euwe’s perception on that is likely right on the money.

euwe max April 19, 2015 at 1:37 am

I think I’ll go do something constructive.. just to piss you off.

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 6:15 pm

Not everyone thinks that way Euwe. I don’t. I have a gun range, we don’t shoot at picture of any individual. Actually, we barely shoot enough to know how to shoot our gun. We live in an area that is 90 something percent white, has nothing to do with race, more to do with drugs.

I have a family to protect. Yes, I have a gun. I once made the mistake of believing in a person, lowering my guard and he almost killed me. So, yes, I am a firm believer in gun rights. I don’t carry – only for home protection.

Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 11:33 pm

Well said.

euwe max April 19, 2015 at 1:23 am

I’m from Texas, and I’m a liberal – Republicans though repulsive, are everywhere, and they are similarly repulsed half way through the first sentence… that should give you a clue… I eat nails for breakfast, bullets for lunch, and snack on Cadillac brass knuckles with a glass of battery acid…piss libertarians and shit Republicans.

They are as dense as depleted uranium in this state.

I’m a race traitor, a renaissance man, a true believer, living within the envelope provided by being quick enough to dodge morons, raging to and fro, seeking whom to devour.

The walking dead has special significance for me.

I might not make a difference, but I just might help some white-knuckled waddler, berzerk because someone who can’t get an even break had the temerity to complain about it, over the edge into pericardial infarct… or grand mal.

I should commission an artist to make me a poster of some tea party hack with his blood shot eyeballs on springs, looking at one of my messages, a thumping vein standing out on his forehead… tufts of hair poking out of the top of his yellow stained t-shirt, his belly poking out beneath it…white knuckled hands gripping the armrests on his tattered computer chair…

Maybe a movie… choking and sputtering, foaming… collapsing beneath the glow of his computer monitor… trying to reach the keyboard for one last reply….

maybe use this message for the zoom in for the final scene before the credits..

but I digress..I really meant to say .. Republicans are scum.

Buz Martin April 19, 2015 at 4:09 am

That’s bullshit and you damned well know it. You like some of us on here, in spite of yourselves. Your hard-core stance is really a mirror image of GT’s, expressed with considerably more style and rhetorical flourish. You also seem intent on self-aggrandizement, but I suspect you’re more self-aware than most ideological zealots who utter sentiments similar to yours.

euwe max April 19, 2015 at 7:41 am

You also seem intent on self-aggrandizement
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I need to seem like I’m intent on *something*!
You can only dance like a butterfly so long before you have to start stinging like a bee. I got tired of the “nope a dope.”

I just want the greatest good for the greatest number… well, except, of course, the Republicans.

Fecal Matters April 21, 2015 at 11:32 am

These are some really piss poor pedestrian anecdotes.

euwe max April 21, 2015 at 7:22 pm

What can I say, compared to you… fecal matter…

Comfortable Racists April 20, 2015 at 10:21 am

Jungle bunnies? That’s when you know someone is comfortable in their racism, when they start using racist language in their speech like it isn’t anything, just avoid using the N word and you can claim ignorance when someone calls you out.

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nyuknyuknyuk April 17, 2015 at 10:38 pm

Blacks can barely drive cars. I like the demographic adjustment probabilities of ten thousand on motorcycles.

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SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 6:11 pm

You are just mean.

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euwe max April 17, 2015 at 10:55 pm

Neither one of those girls has a rifle scabbard… looks like they’re asking to get shot.

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SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 6:34 pm

Interesting the pic is of female black riders. Most of the females when I was there in 98 were riders, not bikers.

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Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 11:31 pm

I thought it was an interesting choice of photos as well.

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Mike at the Beach April 17, 2015 at 11:50 pm

Non…sense. You’ve obviously never attended Black Bike Fest, worked it, or even studied it carefully. It is, from a purely logistical standpoint, dangerous and uncontrollable for everyone involved, attendees and local bystanders / victims alike. This is because for many years law enforcement and businesses were constrained by threats of (and actual) civil suits from the NAACP and political pressure to stand down. Unremarkably and predictably, we are now where we are. As much as folks would like to make it racial, it’s not. It’s cultural (sub-cultural, if you want to get technical).

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euwe max April 18, 2015 at 12:06 am

So you went to Black Bike Fest.. give me a first-person overview of your perceptions and concerns.

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Paul_Curry April 18, 2015 at 12:37 am

75% of the Bikefest vendors in the actual Town of Atlantic Beach are selling counterfeit merchandise; purses, jeans, sneakers, perfume, DVDs and CDs. Another 20% are food vendors and the balance are arts and crafts, airbrush T-shirts, jewelry, etc. Rarely is there an aftermarket motorcycle parts and accessories vendor or even motorcycle manufacturer.
I lived in Atlantic Beach for ten years, which formed the basis for my winning a lawsuit against the Town relating to the excessive noise, public consumption of alcohol, unlawful operation of golf carts by Town officials, and sale of counterfeit goods.
As long as Atlantic Beach continues to collect approximately $800 per vendor, they have no incentive to stop the illegal activity.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4lA6VNjGTGE

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Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 10:31 am

When incentives are offered, they pay attention. When the “carrot and stick” is used, they resist. They say take your stick and jam it. You know better than anyone around here how corrupt the leadership has been, like forever in AB. But in not wanting a state government to dictate to them and say “do this and that, or we will punish you”, they are not unlike other city governments of any size. Haley took the wrong approach from day one. She over-stepped her authority, really, and that has been proven. But behind the scenes, AB council has been more receptive to cooperation. Little has been reported on that, because conflict is obviously always a hotter story.

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Paul_Curry April 18, 2015 at 12:25 pm

I agree that under former AB Town Manager William Booker, relations with neighboring governments were improving. And then, suddenly and without explanation, he was fired by Council.
Council hired a new town manager last Monday. No advance notice to the media or the public of the intention to hire. Only two members of the public attended the meeting. There’s been no media reporting that Benjamin J. Quattlebaum, Jr. was hired. Possibly, this is the same Quattlebaum whose contract with the Wilmington (N.C.) Housing Authority was not renewed, as well as the firing of two other top officials, because of a negative HUD audit.
And so it goes in AB. Little or no accountability.

Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 3:24 pm

Sorry to hear this. Something else that does not bode well.

Mike at the Beach April 18, 2015 at 2:41 am

Seriously? Do 5 minutes on the intergoogle, check out a few YouTube videos, and read the media accounts. They are actually tame compared to standing in the middle of it. Shoplifting and defrauding restaurant offenses (the old “dine and dash”) are as rampant as the lewd public behavior, noise, and violence; they just don’t get covered by the media much attendant to political correctness. Many of my friends own businesses here- they aren’t allowed to close (the NAACP has successfully sued several high profile businesses here after they closed for the weekend, so now they stay open and lose their shirts for that week. Now that I am no longer involved in mitigating it, I do like many smart residents of the Redneck Riviera. I take my family out of town to partake in the the traditional Memorial Day activities that are no longer possible here in MB. You should come check it out (if you want to see a broken-ass subculture up close and personal). It’s a great four or five days…

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Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 3:17 am

Some businesses have found a way to close without being in violation of the law. They use that time for renovation. So far, it has worked for them — as they have never been sued over that practice. Also, there is some strong indication that the NAACP has backed off, in general, from being so litigious over the matter. They are now headed by someone who is not dangerously insane — though the insane one, Mr. Mustafa, is still claiming to be the legit honcho or the org. Crazy sideshow situation, not known about much outside of the area.

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guest April 18, 2015 at 9:55 am

Pops has closed for years (renovations) and nobody has bothered them to my knowledge…NAACP went after ‘chains’…

Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 10:21 am

Right. Because with chains, pressure can be put on them from corporate to stay open, no matter what. With Mom & Pops, they don’t have that problem. Good point.

Mike at the Beach April 19, 2015 at 2:25 am

A couple of local folks got hit in the last big round of suits, most notably J. Edward’s. Although other factors played into it, the owner always claimed that the settlement with the NAACP was a big part of the reason he went under.

euwe max April 21, 2015 at 7:38 pm

GM blamed their troubles on the union.

Mike at the Beach April 21, 2015 at 8:29 pm

Not a good analogy- his settlement (for having the audacity to close his privately held business to avoid the damage and theft he faced during the Memorial Day weekend debacle every year for 10 years) was multiple six-figures. Small business owners (at least this one) can’t make it long doing that. Then, of course, he was open the next Memorial Day weekend and got hosed by damage, loss of regular business, and theft again. Within a year or so he was unable to stay on top of the payroll, and you can’t run a restaurant that size by yourself, so he went under. Directly causal relationship. The big chains can simply write that weekend off, eat the expense to pay a couple of off-duty cops or security guards to wander around for five days, and wait it out. That’s tough on the little guys. The whole thing is silly and unfair, yet there’s no political will to fix it so it won’t be changing anytime soon barring some big incident that finally turns public opinion enough to overpower the political correctness that’s crippling us.

euwe max April 21, 2015 at 9:27 pm

That’s the same whiny bullshit the blacks are always using for their excuse for not being rich…. “it was the white man, holding me down! … behaving badly, never letting me have an even break,” instead of dealing with their problems, and admitting it’s nobody’s fault but their own.

Mike at the Beach April 21, 2015 at 9:53 pm

Yeah, you’re right. The black underclass often gripes about the exorbitant overhead produced by politically correct nonsense and the friction it causes their small businesses. It was probably the owner’s fault those hundreds of folks damaged his parking lot and building, stole thousands of dollars from him, and then shook him down for a couple hundred grand more in a lawsuit backed by a roomful of attorney funded by the NAACP. He had it coming to him! Perfect analogy – you’re on the mark as usual…

euwe max April 21, 2015 at 10:07 pm

It’s always “their” fault… the “bad actors” made me unable to succeed.

Mike at the Beach April 21, 2015 at 10:18 pm

I heard you…it’s just a crappy analogy. These jackasses *are* bad actors, and they *are* responsible for losses on the part of the business community here. Come on down…you still a few weeks to plan. I’ll take you to ground zero and drop you off so you can explore the full breadth of the high-minded political discourse taking place that weekend.

euwe max April 22, 2015 at 12:16 am

I hate it when a black guy starts whining about how he can’t get a job in his town because of all the “racists” … can’t get into a good apartment… they keep raising the rent to get rid of him… send him death threats… and then goes on about “you can’t fight city hall”.. and “lawyers cost money!” and “the deck is stacked!” I mean, can’t he see the writing on the wall, and just go somewhere else – less racist?

Lots of successful black people moved when the going got tough… Halle Barry… Ray Charles… Stevie… and they were BLIND! not Halle Barry.. she makes *me* blind… :) anyway, rather than spend their last dollar trying to get an even break – they MOVED!

Why stay there, and whine about the city, and its biased leaders?

Mike at the Beach April 22, 2015 at 1:35 am

https://youtu.be/P0q4o58pKwA

…but that’s not what we’re talking about here. People have a right to own property, and shouldn’t have to move away because gutless public officials and politicians won’t enforce the law.

euwe max April 22, 2015 at 3:35 am

Oh… “gutless public officials and politicians”

Frank Morris was asleep in the back bedroom of his shoe repair shop when the sound of breaking glass woke him. In the dark of early morning, he walked into his shop and could see two white men standing outside. One was pouring gasoline around the base of his shop and breaking windows. As Morris moved toward the front door, he saw the other man pointing a single-barrel shotgun at him.

“Get back in there, nigger,” the man with the shotgun barked.

Morris saw the man with the gasoline can light a match and throw it inside. Morris’ shop, which the men had soaked on the inside before Morris awakened, became an instant inferno.

As he tried to run outside, the man with the gun repeated, “Get back in, nigger.”

On that morning of December 10, 1964 in Ferriday, Louisiana, Morris was about to become one of scores of unsolved race murders in the South from the civil rights years. He was 51 years old, gregarious, and known for being a fine craftsman. His business catered to black and white customers, and many people of both races claimed him as a friend. He had steered clear of civil rights activity.

Among blacks, he was respected because he ran a good business, gave their sons jobs, and taught them how to work hard and treat people well. White customers, including women, felt comfortable enough to wait inside for their shoe repairs, banter with Morris, and allow their children behind the counter so Morris could show them how to cut leather.

In 1964, that breach of the racial barrier may have been sufficient reason for the Ku Klux Klan to act against Morris. That year, just as Freedom Summer was bringing hundreds of young people to push for civil rights in Mississippi, the Klan had announced an offensive in retaliation, and three civil rights workers had been killed in Philadelphia, Mississippi.

Why the hell didn’t he just *move*?

Mike at the Beach April 22, 2015 at 10:09 pm

Okay amigo…if your position is that we should flee in the face of crap like this, fine (not that I can make the leap between the civil rights struggle and white *and* black businesses suffering under this nonsense). I just disagree, both on principle and logistics. It’s easier said than done to pack up your restaurant from a good location with 25 years of history and split to somewhere they don’t allow this kind of lawlessness (which would be, sadly, just about everywhere but MB). I’m out…

euwe max April 22, 2015 at 10:25 pm

shit. and here I thought you were a practical libertarian.

Squishy123 April 18, 2015 at 11:29 am

“Pops”, aren’t you the teenage hipster.

Paul_Curry April 18, 2015 at 12:35 pm

Abdullah Mustafa was also controversial as a Board member of the Waccamaw Economic Opportunity Council:
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/news/local/community/article16607180.html

Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 3:23 pm

He’s not right in the head.

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 6:08 pm

I think all the businesses have a right to close if they choose to – having been there, their food sucks. LOL. I’d rather cook from a grill! One was funny, can’t remember name, but they insult you.

TontoBubbaGoldstein April 18, 2015 at 7:10 pm

One was funny, can’t remember name, but they insult you.

“Dick’s Last Resort” ?

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 7:11 pm

LOL – It might have been? That was YEARS ago, but funny!

Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 11:29 pm

It’s a crazy place. That’s the one you had in mind, I’m pretty sure.

euwe max April 18, 2015 at 11:17 pm
TontoBubbaGoldstein April 19, 2015 at 2:30 pm

“Dick’s Pics”

*chuckles*

? April 18, 2015 at 9:12 am

I’ve never understood how closing can be considered a civil rights issue. If you are closed to everyone, how is it discriminatory?

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Elfego April 18, 2015 at 5:16 pm

Just have one charge for all you can eat,pay when coming in or do not dine. That will answer the problems. By the way no take out. It is hard to beat a crook though!

euwe max April 18, 2015 at 11:45 am

Thanks for the “man on the street” run down.

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SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 12:57 pm

I went to MB once during Black Bike fest, when I first moved to SC. I had no idea what it was, nor that it was occurring that weekend. I was single and just out having fun.

It was wild, traffic backed up for hours, women in vehicles showing their boobs to anyone looking. Police officers back and forth between vehicles looking inside for boos or whatever they might have been looking for? Getting there was horrible due to traffic.

Once we made it through traffic, overall it was a fun weekend. The Concierge asked if anyone wanted a ride the morning we were checking out. I hopped on the back of a mean green motorcycle, with a nice looking black guy. We started off cruising, before long he realized I had been on a bike before. It was by far one of the most frightening, yet memorable experiences. He cruised so fast around corners, so low to the ground, that I was afraid he would lose control of the bike and/or my elbow would brush the pavement.

Made it back in one piece, will never forget it, but can’t say I’d go back for more. Once was enough :)

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euwe max April 18, 2015 at 3:05 pm

Life. Ain’t it grand?

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SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 3:12 pm

It certainly is! Though the older I get and closer to being “grand” – the less grand it seems ;). Getting older isn’t for wimps, but we still have can relive those memories forever.

I can’t imagine myself on the back of that bike today, but damn, in the moment, I was very much alive.

euwe max April 18, 2015 at 4:02 pm

I’ve had my share of living abundantly…

I remember… when I was just a kid, in Lubbock.. I went to “the black side of town” .. to a pool hall being tended by a black guy who wanted to buy some weed from me.. I had about a 1/4 pound… not much in those days… at first I was a little worried.. nary a white face anywhere.. and then, while I was relaxing with something to drink, this guy comes in dressed *nice* – not like huggy bear.. but like someone with *money*.. and behind him, 3 or 4 nice looking girls… they went through the place, offering blow jobs and whatnot.. I quickly made it clear that a blow job was not in my immediate future… and they hit up the other patrons..

he started talking to my friend, and before long, we were playing a game of chess for 20 bucks… I crushed him like a bug. He was very cordial and gentlemanly, said something like “that was real good!” put down the 20, called his bitches and left.

My friend came and sat down at the table, and said “You know who that was?” Of course I didn’t.. he said “that motherfucker *kills* people for a living!

I finished my drink and I was outta there!

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 5:39 pm

Ha! Story Time:

I was 19, had to gain 1-3 lbs to meet minimum weight requirements to join military. Went into a hillbilly, hole in the wall bar, for a drink or two, with my recruiter.

I weighed all of 105-110 lbs – not tall by any stretch of imagination – average at best. Men in there were the rough necks, slap your lady around kind of guys. Big burly looking fighters, similar in resemblance to your Vikings movie of today.

We drank, laughed, hooped it up. Then the arm wrestling began. You know, that is a man’s sport. No one was looking at me. After they hashed it out. I challenged some of the winners. Long and short – I had to arm wrestle every man in that bar, I kicked ass! They demanded rematch after rematch. Only to lose, time and time again.

My recruiter pulled me off to the side and suggested I let them win, otherwise we would have to fight our way out of that shit hole of 10 or 15 big men. I couldn’t make it look like an easy win. I really didn’t like his tactic, but did teach them how to arm wrestle as men. The way my Dad taught me.

euwe max April 18, 2015 at 5:57 pm

I loved that scene in the remake of the fly, where Jeff Goldblum broke that guy’s arm in a match for the chick.

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 6:02 pm

A little obscure, but I did like the movie….

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 6:07 pm

As you know I am not a religious person, but I like this song: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5D9OA2DJtiQ

euwe max April 18, 2015 at 6:19 pm
SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 6:22 pm

Crap, I wasn’t talking about anything like that! Maybe had the bigger guy clinched the wrist, twisted into the body, hmmmm….

Arm wrestling is like working out or any other sport. It’s all about technique. Not one that does that.

shifty henry April 18, 2015 at 10:57 pm

Gee, no interesting stories on that I want to share, but I am above average at thumb wrestling and excellent at finger pointing.

SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 11:14 pm

Well, unfortunately – my thumbs are weak, but still got a strong little wrist. It’s technique. It’s all about that wrist….

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7PCkvCPvDXk

shifty henry April 18, 2015 at 10:55 pm

WHEW..!!

Fecal Matters April 21, 2015 at 11:25 am

I lived in NMB in 94, worked a few blocks from Atlantic Beach. Granted, it coincides with Memorial Day Weekend, but the level of disruptive, disrespectful and unrefined behavior on display was pretty shocking. Droves of people treating business 17 like it was one big drag, hundreds of car pulling into parking lots to loiter, entire restaurants being taken over by unnecessarily boisterous “patrons”. Sure, it’s the beach you should have a good time, but when it encroaches on others it’s NOT ok. A few years later I worked for a WPDE, 96-98. We clandestinely sent a driver and a camera op to Atlantic Beach in 97 and 98 to capture some b-roll to run with a news package. When I say we could only use a few second of a 15 minute reel, I’m not kidding. The shooter captured sex acts being performed, open drug use, fights, people flashing guns, multiple people urinating in public and even one defecating beside one of the ransacked motel’s there. It literally looked like a 3rd world country had been temporarily flow in and set up in the 4 square block of Atlantic Beach. That’s back when it was contained to that part of the North Myrtle Beach area. Flash forward to 2014, 3 dead in an Ocean Drive shootout. If you don’t think this is cancer on Myrtle Beach, you clearly haven’t been in the middle of it.

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euwe max April 21, 2015 at 7:33 pm

and thank *you* for yet another “man on the street* perspective.

You should look into contractions, possessives and plural forms.. it’ll allow your true genius and deep experience in law enforcement to be better appreciated.

I’ve noticed when a smelly, fat, ugly black whore spilling out of a one piece rubs up against me in a crowd, I don’t enjoy myself as much as when a sexy, white, blonde, blue-eyed MTV hard-body with a bikini on does it.

I don’t know what that is.

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Fecal Matters April 22, 2015 at 7:42 am

This has nothing to do with my experience in law enforcement, it’s a human condition that is festering and seems to be on full display in an environment like this. Atlanta finally said enough is enough with freaknik, I doubt that the Grand Strand is going to put up with it much longer.

euwe max April 22, 2015 at 9:12 am

The police presence in Sturgis seems to work.

I have no idea how you all in the South police a town full of black people, though… probably not like they do in South Dakota.

Fecal Matters April 22, 2015 at 9:16 am

I thought we were talking about Myrtle Beach. Red herring much?

euwe max April 22, 2015 at 9:24 am

I can see you weren’t able to complete the “compare and contrast” part of your education.

Fecal Matters April 22, 2015 at 10:12 am

I can see you haven’t spent a minute around the zoo that Myrtle Beach is during “black bike week” / Memorial day.

euwe max April 22, 2015 at 11:02 am

I guess that means we both have 20/20 vision.

I also haven’t been to Sturgis.

Fecal Matters April 22, 2015 at 12:05 pm

Put the XBOX down and get out of your mother’s basement every now and then.

euwe max April 22, 2015 at 2:12 pm

This is the middle school version of the moral high ground.

I’m researching for my new book.. Psychopaths: Sub-Species of Ape, or Reptile?.. Republicans in their native habitat.

Most view ‘love’ with a partner as a fairy tale from the ‘other’ world of normal humans. Similarly, religious or moral concepts like ‘love for one’s neighbor’ are seen as childish naiveties, and an opportunity to manipulate others in non-linear ways.

What is a cliché? When it’s all said and done, at the end of the day, in the final analysis, a cliche is… well let me give some examples:

your lint trap is full
spaz
back on track
the fact of the matter
going forward
few and far between
a level playing field
in this day and age
at this point in time
for all intents and purposes
sweating bullets
your ski lift doesn’t go all the way to the top
when you dropped acid the car battery fell on your foot.
one sandwich short of a picnic
not the sharpest tool in the shed
dumber than a box of rocks
dumb as a sack of hammers
pot meet kettle
time wounds all heels
make like a baby and head out
come full circle
par for the course
welcome to the club
think outside the box
avoid cliches like the plague
mass exodus
path of least resistance
baptism of fire
in any way, shape, or form
8 year-old called, wants joke back
practice makes perfect
put the XBOX down and get out of your mother’s basement

see what I did there?

Fecal Matters April 22, 2015 at 2:55 pm

I got to the 3rd word of the first sentence and became completely disinterested. While we are feasting on Red Herring, when was the last time a shootout happened at Sturgis?

Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 3:07 am

I agree 100%, but blame the Chamber of Commerce just as much as the NAACP for the way things got so far out of hand, years ago. As has been pointed out by another commenter, they have always been more than eager to over-promote a resort area that simply does not have the infrastructure to support massive numbers of people. A resort area that is really a collection of de facto “townships” under different auspices, rather than ever being a true city, no matter what the population at any given part of the year. It mattered not to them, for most of that time, how well any particular massive group behaved, or how local residents had to suffer as a result. There was money being made, off of all rallies, enough to suffer the irritation of the occasional suit by the NAACP over restaurant closures.

Finally, things got so wildly out of hand that the leader of the families who control the chamber decided “Enough Is Enough”, and set about to try to control Bikefest. Having no control whatsoever over Atlantic Beach, they sought new restrictions in Myrtle Beach on the attendees. Restrictions which had the net result of punishing all bike riders of whatever race, age and type of motorcycle, for the entire rally season periods in the “shoulder months” of May and September. Restrictions that turned out to be unconstitutional. Go figure, right?

They justified that whole campaign of new restrictions by citing an incident of deadly violence between local youth over a parking space that had nothing to do with Bikefest, other than the fact that it happened in Myrtle Beach during that event. Harley rides balked and boycotted MB during May and September, whilce Suzuki, etc. riders were unfazed, and kept on coming in massive numbers at the end of May.

For years, the situation did not get better or worse, for the most part. It stagnated. It festered. Then there was an erruption of lawlessness and violence that shocked the hell out of everyone.

This has resulted in over-reaction. Again. But by, in my opinion, mainly well-intentioned public servants this time — rather than unelected business promoters. The latter tried to control the plans for the event, but did not prevail. Governor Haley tried, but had no more real power to tell AB what to do than did the chamber. Chamber and City, in MB proper, were at odds in a big way on what should be done, and how. But the cities working together with the county seemed to be headed for some good solutions, before the intense over-reactive measures were put in place.

Cutting to the chase: I don’t agree with all of Gable’s piece. However, he is correct in stating that there are constitutional issues that will need to be addressed here. Again.

I simply pray that the most dire predictions that he’s made to not come to pass. That’s all I have to say on the matter.

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Rocky April 18, 2015 at 9:46 am

Well obviously the solution is to build the new interstate highway from 95 to Meth Beach.

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Rocky is a hillbilly April 18, 2015 at 9:57 am

MB is a great place to raise a family.

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Buz Martin April 20, 2015 at 8:06 am

“Centerville … A real good place to raise your kids up.”

– Frank Zappa, “1000 Motels”

fc April 18, 2015 at 9:50 am

The Chamber is to blame for the mayhem during Memorial Day Black Bike weekend? You really have lost your marbles.They are to blame for the murder,rape, theft and trashing of the community?

You liberals just don’t get it.

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Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 10:26 am

You idiot “conservatives”, pogo, just don’t get the fact that the chamber, in all its iterations, from local to national, intentionally positions itself as conservative, seems to cater to Republicans, mainly, but has a great many Democrats in positions of authority. Not to mention as leaders, at every level — including the umbrella org, the US Chamber of Commerce. Look at any liberal Democrat run corporation (there are many) on or near the Fortune 500 label, and you will see that they are prominent and powerful members of that org.

That’s because crony capitalism/corporatism has much cache among liberal Dem elites, and they often run their schemes and scams to pick winners and losers in the marketplace “across the aisle”, so to speak. You are either too dense to see that, or you intentionally ignore it.

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RogueElephant April 20, 2015 at 8:01 am

I have heard the Chamber of commerce referred to as the chamber of compromise. Wonder why ?

Buz Martin April 20, 2015 at 8:17 am

Sic used to refer to it, regularly, as The Chamber of Communists. There is good reason for that. Especially now that communist governments are so strongly entering into the “free market.” The idea of the chamber being about free markets has always been an illusion, since the days of the “Powell Memorandum.” Google it.

Weird story: Among the peeps that used to attack me on Sun News comment threads and forums was an individual who is retired from the main office of the US Chamber of Commerce, and living in the MB area. In the the midst of one of his diatribes against me, for my criticism of the chamber in MB, he disclosed that he used to head up a “special operations” unit for the national organization. It didn’t take much digging to find out that the unit in question was all about aggressive implementation of the actions suggested in the Powell Memorandum. In other words, he was an attack dog for a powerful collective of businesses, intent on controlling the “market’, and in truth keeping it anything but free.

I doubt he was intently focused on me, though. Sure, I was “fair game” for any and all abuse and defamation, as had been obvious for a couple of years. But was just “keeping his hand in”, between golf games. Something to do.

And so it goes.

Seriously???? April 18, 2015 at 10:37 am

You have pooped out a big mess and stepped in it this time. I am your friend but you don’t realize it and have rejected my friendship now. I understand what you are saying and why you say it but not all will. read what you wrote. You seem to be twisting yourself into a pretzel to kiss the ass of the city while trying to kick the ass of the chamber and at the same time not offend your friend Gable. Tired yet? Hey just admit you cannnot ever please everybody and you don’t have to have a stated opinion on every subject just because you are from Myrtle Beach.

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Buz Martin April 18, 2015 at 12:17 pm

You’re trying too hard too make this a big deal. I have nuanced opinions on these matters. So what? Yes, I like Paul. I don’t like all his conclusions. I agree with him that there are possible constitutional issues. I don’t take the City to task as much as the chamber, because the chamber was the one that pushed hardest for much of the across-the-board oppression of bikers in general that occurred in the past. I’m allowed to have opinions, and express them as honestly and logically as I know how. I’m not attacking anyone in this, merely stating opinion. Don’t know who you are, but if we’ve have a difference of opinion, I am willing to listen on how I was possibly wrong.

Jesus, I’m just a dude telling how I feel about shit. It’s not like I have massive influence. I don’t.

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Dan Ruck April 18, 2015 at 12:58 pm

No doubt this is an excuse for racial profiling. I bet the cops are drooling at the prospect of shooting black people. And I’m sure the sight of one riding a $18,000 motorcycle with less than $100 in his pocket will be excuse enough to charge the rider with vagrancy.

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SynTwist April 18, 2015 at 6:28 pm

I am going to say what has likely been said on this thread collectively. People come to MB because it’s cheap, both ocean and food. In quality and expense. MB is on of the only areas that I know of that allows bikers to ride without a helmet.

Is the debate about race? Or safety? If it is about safety, then make it fair across the board. Now, I am sure some smarty has a better answer than I do, who is more current with legislation. So, let’s see it. Make it fair for blacks and white and what is left to disagree about?

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Axel Foley April 21, 2015 at 1:02 pm

It’s ironic that they are trying to enforce “Black Codes”…… Atlantic Beach was founded by black businessmen during the 1930s.

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