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“Holy Islamville” Back On The Radar

TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP? OR PEACEFUL RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY? || By FITSNEWS || Remember Holy Islamville? It’s been nearly six years since this York County, S.C. compound last appeared on our radar … but the drama associated with a new government-subsidized “resettlement” campaign in Spartanburg, S.C. has put the controversial community back on people’s minds. Holy…

TERRORIST TRAINING CAMP? OR PEACEFUL RELIGIOUS COMMUNITY?

|| By FITSNEWS || Remember Holy Islamville? It’s been nearly six years since this York County, S.C. compound last appeared on our radar … but the drama associated with a new government-subsidized “resettlement” campaign in Spartanburg, S.C. has put the controversial community back on people’s minds.

Holy Islamville is a 36-acre, unincorporated community located in a wooded area of York County – a stone’s throw away from Clover (S.C.) High School as well as the Catawba Nuclear Station, a nuclear power plant run by Duke Energy.

According to a 2012 report by Ryan Mauro of the group Family Security Matters, Holy Islamville is one of roughly two compounds across the country affiliated with “Muslims of the Americas” – a group founded in the early 1980s by radical Pakistani cleric Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani.

Holy Islamville opened three years later, in 1983.

According to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security (DHS), Gilani is linked to Jamaat ul-Fuqra (a.k.a. the “community of the impoverished”) – a group which the U.S. State Department describes as “an Islamic sect that seeks to purify Islam through violence.”

Gilani, however, has repeatedly denied any association with the organization.

“They say (Muslims of the Americas) is a front for Jamaat ul-Fuqra,” the cleric said in 2010.  “They try to keep bringing this name Jamaat ul-Fuqra, but we don’t acknowledge it.  Can our enemies show me, in my own writing, where I said I established Jamaat ul-Fuqra or its offices here in Pakistan or in America?”

Federal officials haven’t designated Jamaat ul-Fuqra as a terrorist organization, but its members do have prior links to terrorist acts – and Gilani himself was questioned in the aftermath of the savage 2002 beheading of journalist Daniel Pearl in Pakistan.

How come?  Because Pearl was en route to interview Gilani at the time he was abducted.

Gilani has also repeatedly boasted in videos of running “training camps” in America, and numerous reports of gunfire and explosions emanating from the compound have been documented over the years.

“We are fighting to destroy the enemy,” Gilani says in one of the messages.  “We are dealing with evil at its roots and its roots are America.”

Wow …

Does that sound like the kind of crew you’d like to have residing just around the bend from a high school?  Or a nuclear power plant?

Law enforcement officials in South Carolina have consistently argued that the furor over Holy Islamville is overstated.

“Law enforcement has been all over that place and if there was something there, we wouldn’t be talking about it, we would be doing something about it,” then-S.C. State Law Enforcement Division (SLED) chief Reggie Lloyd told The (Charleston, S.C.) Post and Courier in 2010. “At this point we don’t consider it something the public should be concerned about. It’s just not what these groups are trying to portray it to be.”

In fact here’s a 2011 blog post from independent filmmaker Bassam Tariq purporting to show the peaceful transparent, accessible side of the community.

To be fair … Holy Islamville could be just what Tariq depicts, a peaceful community seeking to live and worship in peace (something we wholeheartedly support) … and maybe the gunfire and explosions heard on the compound are just community members learning to defend themselves (something we also wholeheartedly support).

Still, as the shady taxpayer-funded “resettlement” campaign in Spartanburg picks up steam – and as the national move toward a second “War on Terror” picks up steam – expect this community to draw increased scrutiny.

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70 comments

euwe max April 15, 2015 at 5:43 pm

Piss your pants… it only takes 19.

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TroubleBaby April 15, 2015 at 6:35 pm

Sounds like it’s time to bomb some bases over there.

“Over there”…lol…next thing you know we’ll be engaged in a costly quagmire there too….oops-too late.

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euwe max April 15, 2015 at 7:28 pm

If we fight them “over there” it will confuse them so badly they can think straight enough to hijack a plane or behead anyone… well, at least 19 of them won’t be able to talk to each other because of the noise outside.

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GrandTango April 15, 2015 at 5:46 pm

FITS crapped all over himself, effeminately and fearfully wringing his hands that the Boston Marathon terrorists would not get Due Process…

Due process excuses are why Clinton let Bin Laden walk…it’s a coward liberals way of not dealing w/ sticky issues…and allows them to bash the ADULTS (like Bush) who have the courage to go after bullies, tyrants and animals…

I HAVE no confidence in ANYTHING, FITS or Obama tell me about Islamic Jihad. You are likely perverted in your view…or lying to protect the guilty because you hate us, and sympathize w/ them…

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Allahu Akbar April 15, 2015 at 6:06 pm

ISIS in America. Be afraid be very afraid. Not really, Toyota Hilux trucks don’t drive across the oceans.

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The Colonel April 16, 2015 at 6:37 am

If they did, I’d have driven one home last time I was over there!

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sparklecity April 16, 2015 at 3:12 pm

With a baby camel in the back!!!!!
Or you could swap for a ’80’s Chevy Caprice – probably get some extra ryall’s to boot (if you ‘haggle’ enough!!)

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easterndumbfuckistan April 16, 2015 at 8:29 am

ITM!

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E Norma Sock April 15, 2015 at 7:13 pm

I swear you are really a Fits sock puppet parody.

You have to be.

Nobody can be this ignorant and belligerent.

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GrandTango April 16, 2015 at 8:02 am

Yet you have no answer…and your Dumb@$$ spokesman Rocky has lies…and nothing else…

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E Norma Scok April 16, 2015 at 8:46 am

You can’t be a real person. There’s just no way that someone is this abrasive, ignorant, arrogant and unintelligent all in one neatly wrapped psychotic personna.

Good job, Fits.

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GrandTango April 16, 2015 at 9:49 am

Yet I’ve not seen you post a cohesive, truth-based thought…Stupid F*#k…

There's No Way? April 16, 2015 at 10:01 am

I wish I could buy your optimism.

Rocky April 16, 2015 at 9:49 am

Actually I support my positions with facts and rational objective analysis. You sir, are full of crap. Not just sometimes. You, on the other hand, simply insult people and call people names. You have nothing of substance to add to any conversation. But hey, everytime we respond to you Wil gets click-credits, and that’s fine with us.

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Rocky April 15, 2015 at 8:02 pm

Really. Then how come there was no 9/11 under Bill Clinton, nor Barak Obama – our greatest President of the 21st century. Your guy though, let AQ kill 3,000 Americans on that day, even after being warned about hijackers. You’re such a fool.

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It's a low-bar century April 16, 2015 at 8:59 am

“greatest President of the 21st century”

see posting ID, above

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Bible Thumper April 15, 2015 at 6:21 pm

What Fits doesn’t want you to know.
Winthrop Poll

T3 Do you approve or disapprove of the way Nikki Haley is handling her job as Governor of South Carolina?
All Respondents
Approve
79.0
Disapprove
14.3
Don’t Know
6.6
Refused
0.2

T1 Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as President of the United States?
All Respondents
Approve
4.3
Disapprove
91.3
Don’t Know
3.6
Refused
0.8

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cuvinny April 15, 2015 at 6:34 pm

I think that 25% of republican voters in SC think interacial marriage is morally bad is a much more interesting response.

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Tom April 16, 2015 at 9:54 am

Yea, that is actually lower than I would have thought. But you do have to take into consideration,these are just the Republicans who are actually willing to admit they are racists. Many of that group would probably still join the KKK if it remained a viable organization. So there are probably another 25% to 30% who believe the same thing, but don’t want people to know they are racists. Just another case of political correctness run amuck, I guess.

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Tom April 16, 2015 at 10:23 am

“amok”

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William W. Rentiers IV April 16, 2015 at 11:44 am

So now we take poll numbers and sprinkle it with opinions and some how the numbers magically double? GTFOH

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Tom April 16, 2015 at 3:00 pm

You might not, but I am entitled to my opinion. But there are also studies that show when people are asked questions on race, they are not totally honest with the way they feel.
That said, 25% of your party admitting they think it is immoral for black people to marry white people is not something I would brag about.

nitrat April 15, 2015 at 7:19 pm

What would you expect from “April 2015 Winthrop Poll of Likely SC GOP 2016 Presidential Primary Voters” ?

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Bible Thumper April 15, 2015 at 7:40 pm

Registered Voters -Nikki Haley
Approve —– 56.2%
Disapprove – 36.2%

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Buz Martin April 15, 2015 at 6:23 pm

Do they train on monkeybars?

If they train on monkeybars, we are in a whole lot o’ trouble! They will be taking over the playgrounds of South Carolina, forcing the kids out, completely, so they all have to go home. Then where will Big T go cruising?

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Bible Thumper April 15, 2015 at 6:26 pm

If they can run through tires, may be the gamecocks could use them..

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Buz Martin April 15, 2015 at 6:30 pm

Heh! Good one!

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TroubleBaby April 15, 2015 at 6:33 pm

“forcing the kids out, completely, so they all have to go home. Then where will Big T go cruising?”

Big T=Aqualung

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Buz Martin April 15, 2015 at 6:37 pm

“…
Snot is running down his nose /
Greasy fingers, clutching shabby clothes
…”

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sparklecity April 16, 2015 at 2:56 pm

“Eying little girls with bad intent”…………
“Aqualung” = One of the BEST albums ever made!!!!!
Not a bad song on it!!!!!

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Buz Martin April 16, 2015 at 4:34 pm

Agreed!

Ian Anderson = Total musical genius & classic rock royalty.

sparklecity April 17, 2015 at 12:35 pm

“Cheap Day Return” – I always wondered about the song’s title & could’t get the connection
I was in England 10 or so years ago (on Uncle Sugar’s dime) and bought a train ticket to York – there, plain as day printed on the ticket = “cheap day return”!!!
As soon as I saw that it all clicked and I thought: “Damn now I know the reason for the title and what the song is about!”
60’s & 70’s classic rock = nothing better (well maybe except for Delta Blues and Ralph Stanley that is……)
I sure miss “Skydog” and Jimmy!!!

Word2Buz April 16, 2015 at 8:51 am

You shut your stupid mouth, Buz. You sell-out. After all your talk about a Coastal Kickback and now it may be proven you were right soon and you clam up about it and only want to yammer on about monkey bars and tittie bars. Chinese communists buying up the beach. and once again almost marshall law on bikers. But worse this time. So much going on you know things about and you waste your posting time here on stupidity. Who is paying you to keep quiet? Tommy Rice? Sellout!

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Buz Martin April 16, 2015 at 2:22 pm

Now that I read this one, I don’t think you’re pogo or GT. Another asshole, and one I might know. Anyway … I’m just fine with my current level of engagement with local politics, and it doesn’t bother me that you, apparently, are not. You take care of you, and I’ll take care of me. How ’bout that, numbnuts?

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Buz Martin April 15, 2015 at 6:29 pm

Meanwhile, I think Kate Upton has been working out in her underwear in zero G again.

FITS should show us that, just to lighten up (so to speak) all this doom and gloom shit.

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Word2Buz April 16, 2015 at 8:54 am

Shut up you sell-out. Beat off to another site.

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mamatiger92 April 16, 2015 at 9:11 am

Morning, Flip.

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He's not even trying now April 16, 2015 at 10:00 am

You can tell he really hates Buz, with a passion, complete obsession with the guy. Buz is an all right dude in my book, nothing bad about him that would warrant an unhealthy stalker-like obsession such as the one Flip has.

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Mister Flip To You April 16, 2015 at 10:51 am

Bite my ass, bitch.

mamatiger92 April 16, 2015 at 11:39 am

It’s clearly a crush of some sort. Note all of the references to homosexual sex. It’s kind of sweet.

Buz Martin April 16, 2015 at 2:19 pm

Not sure that’s pogo. Sure it’s not GT. I have other suspects on some of this new trolling. If it’s any of them, they need to have rabid dogs set on them. But I’m feeling mellow of late.

TontoBubbaGoldstein April 15, 2015 at 6:34 pm

Holy Islamville

“Holy Islamville, Batman!”

Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani.

Ali G. ??????

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Soft Sigh from Hell April 15, 2015 at 6:49 pm

Muslims are not allowed to shoot guns and set off fireworks out in the woods? In redneck SC? Heck, if they’re devout Muslims at least they’re not drunk. Got to be safer than, say, Lexington County.

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nitrat April 15, 2015 at 7:01 pm

If they could not monger fear, what in the world would the Republican and “Republican” Parties be all about?
This is not a very Ron Paul, Sic Willie Libertarian type of post. Who wrote it? Who IS ‘written by fitsnews’?

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Do I hear surprise, disbelief? April 15, 2015 at 8:58 pm

Fear? How about Caution?

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BrigidBernadette April 15, 2015 at 8:32 pm

I haven’t checked them in a couple of years now, but they believe in a holy fax machine. There was a registered sex offender living there with women and children in 2007-2008. Mostly prislam converts, remember the Beltway Sniper, but then who really knows. They do follow Sheikh Gilani, and yes he is most definitely a Pakistani Islamic Supremacist ideologue and proponent of jihad imperialism. http://gatesofvienna.net/2013/03/close-your-eyes-and-think-of-sheikh-gilani/

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Sy of relief April 15, 2015 at 8:55 pm

If the IRS has agents aplenty to audit and harass Conservative groups, surely in all fairness, they must be watching the money trail and activities of Islamville? And if the NSA is monitoring all citizens’ FB posts, phone calls, internet activities, etc., than Islamville could not be exempted from this monitoring either?
I feel so much better now….

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Mike at the Beach April 16, 2015 at 1:19 am

My favorite part of this silly piece:

“…Holy Islamville is one of roughly two compounds across the country…”

“Roughly two?!” Please tell me that’s a typo. Not only are there a couple dozen of these in the US, but who in the hell says “roughly two?”

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shifty henry April 16, 2015 at 9:42 am

— should it have read “roughly two HUNDRED”

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euwe max April 16, 2015 at 9:58 am

We have no way of knowing how far this cancer has spread. The incompetent Obama administration is encouraging these compounds with creative destruction money.

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shifty henry April 16, 2015 at 10:33 am

Max, it’s just part of the overall master plan…

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euwe max April 16, 2015 at 10:45 am

It’s a dirty, black plan.

sparklecity April 16, 2015 at 3:07 pm

There’s little doubt that there is raghead under every rock and behind every tree………….
I spent damn near 30 years of my life helping kill them in one way or another and I ain’t lost one damn minute of sleep worrying that the dicks are going to take over Uncle Sugar’s land anytime soon

Some of y’all aren’t happy unless you have a boogie man as an answer to all your insecurities and doubts.
Been that way since the late 40’s.
I wish I had a dollar for every time since around 1960 I’ve heard somebody on the radio,TV, pulpit or internet say the following: “the enemy is just over the horizon and will enslave you unless you come to your senses and see things my/our way”

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euwe max April 16, 2015 at 3:35 pm

well, can you blame them? It’s all they got. You need a powerful line like that so when you finish your beer, you can have something forceful to say as slam it on the bar with a flourish, and motion for another.

Soft Sigh from Hell April 16, 2015 at 5:04 pm

In the 1920s it was, “30,000 [or maybe it was 300,000] Communist Jews are poised in Mexico to infiltrate and overthrow us,” or so said the teabagger types of the day.

sparklecity April 17, 2015 at 12:46 pm

I hadn’t heard that but I’m not surprised.
Sounds like something the KKK would say back then when they had millions of members and marched on Washington (“Jews,Catholics and Ni**ers not allowed”) was the KKK mantra of the period.
i have seen the newsreels from the period and there was something on the History Channel concerning the KKK in the 1920’s
Right-wing paranoria never goes away and requires insecurity to exist..
Without paranoid insecurity and an adversary behind every tree, right-wingnuts would go the way of the dodo.

easterndumbfuckistan April 16, 2015 at 8:28 am

Wasting away again in Islamville,
Searching for my lost platter of pork,
Some people claim that there’s a mullah to blame,
But I know it’s my own damn fault.

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Mike at the Beach April 16, 2015 at 4:14 pm

Diet Mountain Dew all over the keyboard.

Maybe a little on my tie, even. Thanks for that…

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sparklecity April 17, 2015 at 12:36 pm

Agreed!!!!!!!!!!

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RogueElephant April 16, 2015 at 8:35 am

One bunkerbuster. Problem solved. NEXT !

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euwe max April 16, 2015 at 9:23 am

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Don’t forget – hate unites!

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shifty henry April 16, 2015 at 9:40 am

??? — PNAC… you got me on this

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euwe max April 16, 2015 at 9:41 am

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_for_the_New_American_Century

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Soft Sigh from Hell April 16, 2015 at 5:00 pm

PNAC’s plans for Iraq sure went awry. I don’t think I’d count on them for anything important.

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euwe max April 16, 2015 at 10:00 am

The New Conservatives: How stupid became a virtue… at your local bookstore today!

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ted April 16, 2015 at 10:03 am

Sikhs will use Allah as it is in their holy scriptures says Gurdwara council chief, Jagir Singh. People, open your eyes.It happened to Lebanon…it will happen here.

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sparklecity April 16, 2015 at 2:53 pm

“sounds of gunfire and explosions documented over the years” = ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME????
***That’s damn near a daily occurrance in NW Spartanburg & NE Greenville counties!!!!!**** not counting EVERY FUCKING WEEKEND (if the weather is good)!!!
And that’s no exaggeration either!!!

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little g April 16, 2015 at 3:14 pm

just make it up as they go along thanks for keeping us informed, Sic

+6+years later

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allison gilliam April 16, 2015 at 3:53 pm

Muslims are not happy! They are not happy in Gaza, Egypt, Morocco, Iran, Iraq, India, Yemen, Pakistan, Syria, or Lebanon. So where are they happy? They’re happy in Australia, Canada, England, France, Italy, Germany, Sweden, USA, Norway, Holland, and Denmark. Basically, they’re happy in every country that is not Muslim, and unhappy in every country that is Muslim. And who do they blame? Not Islam, not their leadership, and not themselves. They blame the countries they’re happy in. And then they want to change those countries to be like …the country they came from where they were unhappy. How damn dumb can you get? Everyone seems to wonder why Islam terrorists are so quick to commit suicide. Look at the evidence.No Christmas, no tv, no strip clubs, no hotdogs, pork chops, beer, or bacon, The wear rags for clothes, towels for hats, hear constant wailing from some idiot in a tower, have more than one wife, more than one mother in law, you can’t shave, your wife can’t shave, you can’t wash off the smell of a donkey, your wife smells worse than a donkey, and you wipe with what??? Then Islam tells you that when you die it all get better???? Well no shit, Sherlock.

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A concerned neighbor May 1, 2015 at 10:20 pm

On any given day you can find groups of young boys walking down the streets and not moving out of the way when cars are coming and hurling insults at the drivers, but when you stop to confront them, they take off running. So much for the homeschooling they are supposed to be getting. Furthermore, there is a lot of gunfire going on and yes I know about it because I have it recorded where I was shot at for trying toget video of them doing it, yet the law around here will tell you they don’t own guns! They have been seen with AK47s and M16s! SLED says there’s nothing to worry about, but that is an untruth! There have been lots of “coincidences” of things happening in the world and when the “practice” shootings go on. They even have their own cometary on the land and have within the last year out up a permanent guard shack at the entrance to the compound and have installed cow gates and signs stating security cameras are on premises. Now I ask you, if they are a peaceful religious compound, how many religious camps are armed to the teeth? Not a threat? Think again!

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