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S.C. State University: More “Higher Ed” Incompetence

Earlier this month S.C. State University reported it was running a $4.4 million deficit – out of a $146 million budget. Not only that the chronically mismanaged school says it needs a total of $13 million to pay off all of its outstanding bills (including previous years’ deficits). Unbelievable ……

Earlier this month S.C. State University reported it was running a $4.4 million deficit – out of a $146 million budget. Not only that the chronically mismanaged school says it needs a total of $13 million to pay off all of its outstanding bills (including previous years’ deficits).

Unbelievable …

This historically black institution has had financial problems for years, yet lawmakers continue to bail it out using taxpayer funds (while subsidizing its boondoggles … and funding its questionable bureaucratic hires).

What a joke …

We’ve said it before and we’ll say it again … South Carolina’s entire system of higher education needs to be totally privatized (same thing goes for higher ed across the country).  It’s time for S.C. State University – and the other thirty-two government-run institutions of “higher learning” in the Palmetto State – to sink or swim based on their ability to prepare students for life in the 21st century.

No more bailouts for incompetent bureaucrats!

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61 comments

Jackie Chiles February 10, 2014 at 3:48 pm

I hope fits understands that privatizing colleges will do nothing to get the government out of the college business. Rather, the new “private” institutions that were formerly public would just raise tuition accordingly. And how, pray tell, would college students pay the increased tuition? Government funded student loans that are not discharged in bankruptcy.

So rather that curing all the faults with higher education, we’d only be shifting the burden of paying for higher education from the taxpayers of South Carolina, to the taxpayers across the country through the form of unlimited federal student loan dollars. We’d also be encumbering South Carolina’s next generation of college graduates with excessive student loan debt, which would also be a drain on the state economy as college grads can’t afford to buy cars and houses due to the necessity of paying their exorbitant student loan payments. It’s completely naive to think that ending funding for state schools will somehow get government out of higher education and/or improve anything in South Carolina other than South Carolina Student Loan Company’s profit margins.

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Jan February 10, 2014 at 4:14 pm

I think you are missing the point. Howard Rich and his minions believe too many people go to college. They do not believe we should have public schools or student loans. The belief is if you can’t afford grammar school, middle school, high school or college, you should not be educated. That allows the free market to work so that those deserving of education will get it.

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euwe max February 10, 2014 at 4:49 pm

Education is the root of all evil!

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venomachine February 11, 2014 at 8:55 am

You misspelt edukashun.

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euwe max February 11, 2014 at 9:34 am

yes, but I got a blue ribbon for Porgie!

Mike at the Beach February 14, 2014 at 7:07 pm

I think too many kids go to college, too, just not for the reasons that the Howard Rich crowd does. Only the wacko tin-foil-hat fringes of the big-L Libertarian Party types believe that gov’t should play no role in the education of our future workforce, entrepreneurs, and leaders. I do think, however, that higher ed (Hell, even local school districts to a certain extent, for that matter) has become an out of control sham (just compare their cost increases and spending to inflation over time – not much of an argument can be made in their favor). The idea that every kid coming out of high school needs to go to college is just wrong. Many do, but what most really need is specific vocational training or, at the bottom of the bell curve, how-not-to-suck-at-life training. The federal student loan programs are in bed with every diploma mill and nonsensical little school in the US, and it’s quite a racket. Dumbasses who don’t need college (and will never graduate anyway) live off of the loans until they finally reach that conclusion, then “graduate” into the real world with tens of thousands of dollars in debt. It’s a great system.

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Fits Aint No Republican February 10, 2014 at 5:05 pm

Oh he “understands” alright.

It just doesnt fit his narrative.

A common occurence.

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Smirks February 10, 2014 at 4:11 pm

When a public college is this badly mismanaged, why not dump the entire board? Would be nice to have something like that in place.

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Elfego February 10, 2014 at 4:50 pm

It POORLY EDUCATED AND LIED TO, BLACKS AT UCLA CALL CORRECTING THEIR GRAMMAR AND PUNCTUATION RACIST

FEBRUARY 10, 2014 COACH COLLINS

by Kevin “Coach” Collins

It’s hard to figure out what to make of the people in this story. Should these people be laughed at or pitied?

Recently a group of 25 self-described “Students of Color” held a sit-in to support poor English writing skills. They whined about the “racism” of being offered constructive criticism of their lack of grammar, spelling and punctuation abilities.

As products of dysfunctional government schools, many if not all of them have little or no writing skill. Many of them don’t know they have no writing skills. They have been lied to and had their heads patted so often by paternalistic liberals they can no longer recognize the truth about their shortcomings.

We can expect little else from students who have never been dealt with honestly.

What makes this situation still more ridiculous is that the target of their protest was a professor of Education and Information. Apparently the poorly educated students who registered for this course expected more lies and head pats rather than actual instruction. Claiming to be, “aggrieved minority students,” these spoiled brats proved they haven’t enough brains to realize the value of authentic education.

Using the psycho-babble phrase “micro-aggression” to characterize the professor’s “insulting” act, the Black spoiled brats issued a statement which was likely written by someone who was not offended by being taught how to construct a few sentences in standard American English. Reading their childishly injected “big” words certainly makes the point that most of them don’t get it.

They said, “A hostile campus climate has been the norm for Students of Color in this class throughout the quarter as our epistemological and methodological commitments have been repeatedly questioned by our classmates and our instructor. The barrage of questions by white colleagues and the grammar ‘lessons’ by the professor have contributed to a hostile class climate.”

The likely “cherry on top” of this story is the probability that the professor is a liberal (this IS UCLA after all) who comes from the same “educational” approach that created these spoiled “Students of Color” who cry racism when someone tries to teach them something. They are actually so poorly educated they can’t conceive of anything else to yell but “racist.” Hey they’ve watched it work before! is not just SC State it is all our public schools also. Something to ponder:

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shifty henry February 10, 2014 at 4:58 pm

— caught this article earlier today, and Shifty’s thought is… May God Save America..! Sometime, somewhere their ‘whining’ has to stop.

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euwe max February 10, 2014 at 5:17 pm

their ‘whining’ has to stop
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a burlap bag full of kittens makes a lot of noise when you first throw it in the river…. then it stops all by itself. Nature takes care of all that kind of thing.

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Elfego February 10, 2014 at 7:30 pm

I think America has turned its back to often on God and he may not pay attention to our prayers. I thank him for his mercy and grace but we just cant keep flaunting his commandments and go unpunished.

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euwe max February 11, 2014 at 11:03 am

we just cant keep flaunting his commandments and go unpunished.

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Let’s see, how long has it been since Sodom and Gomorrah now? Oh, wait – that was only a couple of cities… I guess since the flood, then.

Squishy123 February 10, 2014 at 6:07 pm

I i ax a question?

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shifty henry February 10, 2014 at 7:28 pm

Yes, you may —

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At night school to learn English, the teacher asked the
students to use the word “choo-choo” in a sentence.

Marie said, “The choo-choo pulled into the station on time.”

Juanita said, “ De choo-choo is goin’ too fast.”

Pedro said, “You touch my Chevy an’ I’ll choo-choo.”

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Squishy123 February 10, 2014 at 10:25 pm

Ma frien Shaquanita baby daddy done wan pay he chil support. He say Obama promise to pay for him. Shaquanita say Obama di’in sen enuff money for diapers and purple drank so she has to wait until DaQuanello poops befo she change him. Is dis some fucked up shit or what? For real.

shifty henry February 11, 2014 at 7:28 am

Old tee-shirts and socks will work well and are a re-useable resource – they can be washed and dried at any convenient Walmart.

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 9:31 am

you put sheet on my bed and I weel keel you!

Centrist View February 10, 2014 at 7:14 pm

Three S.C. State trustees leaving board
http://thetandd.com/news/three-s-c-state-trustees-leaving-board/article_7d59f620-7756-11e3-93f1-0019bb2963f4.html

[Excerpt]

Changes on the South Carolina State University Board of Trustees that began last year when the General Assembly ousted five members are continuing in 2014.

Trustees Patricia Lott, Robert Nance and Bob Waldrep, whose terms end on June 30, did not file for re-election. The positions they hold will be filled by new faces.

5+3=8
8/12 is pretty close to replacing the entire board.

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CNSYD February 10, 2014 at 4:32 pm

Sic Willie apparently has a new lance and a new steed to continue tilting at windmills. The result will, however, be the same.

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euwe max February 10, 2014 at 4:34 pm

This historically black institution has had financial problems for years, yet lawmakers continue to bail it out using taxpayer funds (while subsidizing its boondoggles … and funding its questionable bureaucratic hires).

What a joke …

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I *know*! I laughed myself *sick* when I heard that Southern states historically underserved blacks in relation to whites in education… and felt the need to correct it to assuage their misguided conscience… It’s like double indemnity!

When Bush allocated 700 billion dollars to bail out Ciitbank, et. al., I was fit to be tied, it was so funny! [wiping tears out of my eyes]

And that other joke… the Iraq war! Man… sometimes I just giggle out loud, and embarrass myself in public restrooms.

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Fits Aint No Republican February 10, 2014 at 4:39 pm

In Fits world (and indeed the world of the Republican and Non Republican Republicans who post here),Citibank and Wall Street in general are rhapsodized as the “free Enterprise” system and those who work there are called “businessmen”(others just call them Crooks).

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Elfego February 10, 2014 at 4:48 pm

Do you think it is a joke that Obama rewards his bundlers and repays his friends to the tune of $800 Billion dollars in Green Energy handouts? He also rewarded GE who made $billions,did not pay one penny in taxes and then gave Jeffrey Immelt a job while GE was sending jobs overseas!

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euwe max February 10, 2014 at 4:58 pm

I think it’s funny that you do.

Obama – sounds *just* like Bush doesn’t it? A man who doesn’t give a damn about the constitution, about war crimes, about the excesses of greed, or incompetence… ready to tear people limb from limb with his attack dogs over political correctness… spreading hate from one corner of the country to another in the name of God.

Yeah Obama is incompetent – thanks be to God that Bush wasn’t.

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Smirks February 10, 2014 at 5:06 pm

In the 2012 election cycle, General Electric gave Mitt Romney’s campaign a total of $332,875.

http://www.opensecrets.org/pres12../contrib.php?id=N00000286

>pretending GE only buys Democrats

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Elfego February 10, 2014 at 7:31 pm

So?

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Smirks February 11, 2014 at 8:18 am

Romney 2008:

Goldman Sachs $237,575
Citigroup Inc $172,950
Merrill Lynch $172,425
Morgan Stanley $170,350
Lehman Brothers $150,700
JPMorgan Chase & Co $127,400
UBS AG $124,150
Marriott International $121,150
Bain Capital $117,250
Bain & Co $117,075
Kirkland & Ellis $116,300
The Villages $110,900
Credit Suisse Group $102,600
Huron Consulting $102,050
Compuware Corp $94,950
PricewaterhouseCoopers $92,250
American Financial Group $92,150
Cerberus Capital Management $81,250
Affiliated Managers Group $80,012
Bank of America $75,350

Romney 2012:

Goldman Sachs $1,033,204
Bank of America $1,013,402
Morgan Stanley $911,305
JPMorgan Chase & Co $834,096
Wells Fargo $677,076
Credit Suisse Group $643,120
Deloitte LLP $614,874
Kirkland & Ellis $520,541
Citigroup Inc $511,199
PricewaterhouseCoopers $459,400
UBS AG $453,540
Barclays $446,000
Ernst & Young $390,992
HIG Capital $382,904
Blackstone Group $366,525
General Electric $332,875
EMC Corp $320,679
Bain Capital $285,970
Elliott Management $281,675
Rothman Institute $259,500

I went ahead and bolded all of the contributors that also contributed to Barack Obama in either 2008, 2012, or both. (I like to notice that a good bit of the ones they share are in the financial sector, which is really amusing considering Romney’s slip that he would consider keeping Bernanke around.)

I also find it amusing that GE giving Obama money = OMG OUTRAGE!!!!!!!!!! while GE giving Romney money = “So?”

Enjoy your hypocrisy you schmuck.

Elfego February 11, 2014 at 9:28 am

You are the one that brought up what GE gave Romney. You just show your ignorance I was making the point all of them do this and you cant pay anymore attention to one than the other. They play both sides of the fence and idiots that are party minded are to stupid to understand. Look in the mirror at you reward!

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 11:18 am

Too bad we aren’t libertarian, then we could eliminate the government as middleman… the corporations could steal directly from us without paying any taxes first.

Elfego February 11, 2014 at 12:45 pm

I could not be a strictly Party Line member. They all have some good points and bad. Libertarians are probably the most correct if we were perfect human beings.

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 1:50 pm

I could not be a strictly Party Line member. They all have some good points and bad. Libertarians are probably the most correct if we were perfect human beings.

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Sort of like Christians, only not.

euwe max February 10, 2014 at 10:48 pm

I’m glad you’re against outsourcing – what was Bush’s response to your personal complaints for 8 years?

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Elfego February 11, 2014 at 9:24 am

What has Bush got to do with it? You are supposed to learn from the past not live in it. If it suits you folks go get Bush and hang him. You really do not realize how stupid you sound at times and to be honest neither do I.

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euwe max February 11, 2014 at 9:37 am

What has Bush got to do with it?
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to do with what? The holocaust? 9/11? The constitution? Iraq? The dubpression?

You are supposed to learn from the past not live in it
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Reminding Republicans that Bush represents current Republican ideals, and was proven a miserable failure is living in the past?

You really do not realize how stupid you sound at times and to be honest neither do I.
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Relax, you don’t sound any more stupid than any other Republican.

Elfego February 11, 2014 at 10:52 am

I am not a Republican but I can vote for a Godless Democrat and a soulless liberal. As I said if you want to see stupid look in the mirror!

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 10:55 am

As I said if you want to see stupid look in the mirror!

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you didn’t say that.

And if you aren’t a Republican, what irritates you about my mentioning Bush when I want to point out problems with the Republican platform?

Elfego February 11, 2014 at 12:16 pm

The thing that irritates me is you liberal monkey’s want to live in the past and when you get caught with your pants down you complain about what someone else did. You never want to face the problem at hand you want to make excuses. I hate to admit this but I once was an elected Democrat and the last campaign I donated to was a Democrat. Go suck your thumb!

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 12:18 pm

The thing that irritates me is you liberal monkey’s want to live in the past and when you get caught with your pants down you complain about what someone else did.

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Sounds like Clintonistas, alright. But why labor about what was said? Let it go!

Ha ha February 11, 2014 at 4:15 pm

Yeh RIIIIIIIIIIGGGGGGGHHHHHTTTT

Hahahahahaha!

Squishy123 February 10, 2014 at 6:05 pm

I’ve got an idea, let’s give students a passing grade of “C” just for showing up for class. They can fail tests, not turn in assignments, but as long as they sit their butts in seats we’ll push them through to graduation.

Why I will never hire a Benedict College graduate.

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euwe max February 10, 2014 at 6:49 pm

How about just having them pass a test that shows they’ve absorbed the material, so we can determine if the curriculum is working?

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Squishy123 February 10, 2014 at 10:20 pm

That went right over your head didn’t it…

Do you know that quizes and homework aren’t graded in Lexington high schools?

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euwe max February 10, 2014 at 10:47 pm

Wouldn’t common core fix that?

Squishy123 February 11, 2014 at 9:02 am

Not more than letting teachers teach and leave the politicians to slap each other on the back and fund pet projects.

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 9:17 am

So you trust teachers to do their jobs when they are not told what to do, more than if they have a specific job definition?

I mean, these aren’t the same teachers that “teach to the test” to keep their jobs – these are principled teachers all of a sudden, grateful for the opportunity to try white magic and prayer on the children?

My guess is you’re not employed as an engineer.

PC hall Monitor February 11, 2014 at 10:35 am

“”Okay, Ms. Crabapple, I’ve reviewed your declaration of faith, prayer list and political affiliations, and I only have one more question for you… do you love children?”

Not much different than the pledge of allegiance!

:)

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 10:57 am

One big difference is that the pledge of allegiance doesn’t make you a teaching professional.

PC Hall Monitor February 11, 2014 at 7:17 pm

Is that what they are called today? Would that be like a “sales professional” or “janitorial professional”?

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 7:20 pm

No, unfortunately in South Carolina, they’re called ma’am.

Squishy123 February 11, 2014 at 10:49 am

It worked when I went to school. Teachers didn’t program us to take government standardized tests. Well we did take some sort of test every other year for one day. It sounds to me that taking away standardized testing is going to turn every public school into a parochial school.

Why do you guess that? You’re guessing wrongly by the way.

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 10:51 am

It worked when I went to school.

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doesn’t sound like it from here, Feynman.

Squishy123 February 11, 2014 at 12:40 pm

Clean your ears out.

euwe max February 11, 2014 at 1:57 pm

Clean your ears out
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I beg your pardon! I am fastidious in my aural hygiene!

…and you sound like your education left you without *any* sense of membership in the human race.

TontoBubbaGoldstein February 10, 2014 at 5:21 pm

“No more bailouts for incompetent bureaucrats!”

You say “to mah to”, TBG says “to may to”…

You say “incompetent bureaucrats”, TBG says [very] “competent thieves and grifters”….

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FedUpFinally February 10, 2014 at 5:37 pm

MAYBE, just MAYBE, South Carolina ought to do what its closest other neighbor did many years ago, and to the unending anguish of all the state-owned college graduates of the TarHeelBilly schools:

Create a Chancellorship, and put ALL of the state-owned colleges and universities under a single governing body: (“Board of Trustees” for lack of a better term).

That way, we [the people, or maybe (ha, ha) the General Assembly] could hold (maybe not more than) a dozen people responsible for the many fuckups that have already occurred (certainly including those at SCSU), and that are rapidly coming on line (i.e., the proposed merger of the College of Charleston and MUSC). And think of how much money the State could save without some 50+ “Trustees” that are some way or another on the State Teat.

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CNSYD February 10, 2014 at 5:52 pm

Why if we had a system like NC we could have academic fraud just like UNCheat.

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Deo Vindice SC February 10, 2014 at 6:50 pm

If we had a system that other states had, the rats would cry foul. This state has a system of total republican control. Get real morons.

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FedUpFinally February 10, 2014 at 7:11 pm

We Got Cheat Anyway…

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Smirks February 11, 2014 at 8:25 am

The UNC scandal was pretty bad, but pretending that doesn’t happen at a lot of colleges is rather silly.

Not sure how the idea FedUpFinally proposed has anything to do with said scandal in the first place, but oh well.

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common sense speaks February 11, 2014 at 9:13 am

SC State is an embarrassment to the whole state and should be shut down. South Carolina is a small state with and does not need to support these black colleges as it already supports too many colleges. There should not be “black colleges” at all. Either you make the grades and go to a state college or you don’t. period. Let’s keep race out it. How many of these small black colleges are there in this state. . . . too many, and the degrees that come out of them is a joke as nobody takes them seriously anyway. Study, go to school, do your best, and it will work out but don’t ask the too few taxpayers in this state to keep supporting such a waste of money like these shit colleges.

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Scooter February 11, 2014 at 2:09 pm

They should merge it with the U. of South Carolina. It would enhance the value of both.

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