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Gunman Arrested In SC State Shooting

CHARLESTON MAN CHARGED WITH MURDERING BULLDOG FOOTBALL PLAYER A nineteen-year-old Charleston, S.C. man has been arrested and charged with murdering 20-year-old Brandon Robinson – a football player at South Carolina State University. Justin Bernard Singleton was arrested early Saturday morning after an extensive manhunt in the wake of Friday afternoon’s…

CHARLESTON MAN CHARGED WITH MURDERING BULLDOG FOOTBALL PLAYER

A nineteen-year-old Charleston, S.C. man has been arrested and charged with murdering 20-year-old Brandon Robinson – a football player at South Carolina State University.

Justin Bernard Singleton was arrested early Saturday morning after an extensive manhunt in the wake of Friday afternoon’s school shooting – which made national headlines.

“We are extraordinarily sad about this,” an emotional S.C. State University president Thomas Elzey said at a press conference. “He’s a very nice young man … and it hurts. It hurts us all.”

According to the S.C. State Law Enforcement Division (SLED), witnesses observed Singleton arguing with Robinson outside of Hugine Suites, an on-campus dormitory named for one of the school’s former presidents. As the argument escalated, Singleton is alleged to have pulled out a gun and shot Robinson in the neck.

It’s not immediately clear what precipitated the argument.

Three other individuals were reportedly involved in the shooting – which placed the campus on lockdown for several hours – and additional arrests may be forthcoming.

SLED told the Associated Press it is confident the trigger man is in custody, however.

Robinson – native of Orangeburg, S.C. – recorded five tackles in four games as a backup defensive lineman for the Bulldog football team last year.

S.C. State is a historically black, government-run college with a student population of approximately 3,200.

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121 comments

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 10:18 am

The dude in the mugshot looks familiar…

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Frank Pytel January 25, 2014 at 11:10 am

I date the #1 DAWG fan. Processing…..

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Frank Pytel January 25, 2014 at 11:12 am

Different dawgs :)

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Frank Pytel January 25, 2014 at 11:14 am

Thank You Sunshine :-*

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Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 10:33 am

Oh my gosh… he, he’s a Negro.

I had my money on an Amish gentleman.

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SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 1:19 pm

Well you knew it was not going to be a white person – they don’t shoot just one and they prefer to shoot first graders.

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Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 1:26 pm

And when they do it’s national news, not just a run of the mill, just another day in the hood shooting like this. As long as they keep it among themselves nobody really seems to care.

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SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 1:34 pm

LOL So this has not been national news? All over CNN and all the major networks. How many students have been shot at SC State or “in the hood” as you call it? If nobody seems to care then why are you on here blabbering about it?

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Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 2:20 pm

It has, it’s just that nobody gives a fuck about this routine black-on-black shooting except the liberal talking heads.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 2:34 pm

So why do you care, Squishy? Are you a liberal talking head?? LOL So it is on the national news, huh? And you are the only one who cares about it?? Why are we talking about it??

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 6:50 pm

How many people have been killed within a block of Goff Avenue in Orangeburg in the last 25 years?

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 7:08 pm

I have no idea. I’m sure you’ll tell me though.
Since we are – or were – or could be talking about school shootings, how many black males have shot students at a school in the United States in the last 25 years?

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 7:47 pm

Probably more than you think.

TBG will also wager that this tragedy at SCSU will, when everything settles down, NOT be classified as a “school shooting”.

Frank Pytel January 25, 2014 at 1:43 pm

Fucking ASSHOLE

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SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 2:12 pm

LMFAO Hi Frank – you have a real nice day! Toodles!

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GrandTango January 25, 2014 at 3:18 pm

LMAO…a spat between a leftwing radical…and a Liberal-Tarian who empowers your failure…

How long before the dumb@$$ whites in the democrat party realize they are only welcome through the back door (and I don’t mean the Rainbow Coalition) type back door…

..

Sarah Palin Forever! January 25, 2014 at 3:22 pm

He always starts drinking early on Saturdays.Hes no Republican and he voted for Barack Obama.

I believe him !Then again I believe Sarah Palin is an intelligent woman.

GrandTango January 25, 2014 at 3:15 pm

Yes: But w/ your hatred for Conservatives…this is the kind of @$$-hole, you, and FITS, make sure are running (and ruining) this country…

If you don’t like what you support, get off that Liberal-Tarian crap…FITS embraces that because Liberals have proven unfit..and 3rd party is the only way to put democrats back in (see Va.)…..

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La Gloria Cubana January 25, 2014 at 1:53 pm

Agreed SCBlues!!… just a bunch of twisted, liberal, gun-toting whites from blue states. No wonder those states are doing all that they can to ban white gun ownership in them.

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SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 2:06 pm

Hello LGC –
Blue states? Really?
Let’s see now – 2013 school shootings – 5 in Florida (I’d guess PURPLE) – 1 in MO (RED) – 1 in KY (RED) – 2 in TX (FLAMING RED) – 3 in GA (AS RED AS YOU CAN GET WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE REAL HOUSEWIVES OF ATLANTA) ) – 3 in TN (REDDER THAN RED) – 3 in NC (sometimes BLUE but now RED) – I in IA (Will you give me PURPLE?) – 1 in NV (PURPLE? not sure) – 1 in SD (seems RED to me)
I’ll let you do the math.

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La Gloria Cubana January 25, 2014 at 2:26 pm

… and let me guess, all of them were those red blooded, first grade shooting, sons of Repub-voting, white Americans that you imply above… yep, it’s getting so bad in red(neck) America, that I may just have to move to the sweet genteel blue world that you dream of (that doesn’t allow violence, guns and such)… such as DC, Detroit, and Chicago…. ah, such beautiful, peaceful places with beautiful, peaceful people.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 2:32 pm

Now don’t be mad, Gloria – I can see you did the math – tough being proven so blatantly wrong, huh? Don’t hate the facts!
What was Squishy implying above, Gloria? My reply to Squishy’s post was meant to be on the same level as Squishy’s – just as outrageous.

Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 6:43 pm

Boy I have your granny panties in a twist now don’t I…

Frank Pytel January 25, 2014 at 5:28 pm

Snap

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 5:57 pm

Crackle and Pop!
Gee – this is fun, Frank
I’m enjoying this special time with you.

Mike at the Beach January 25, 2014 at 3:12 pm

So now your irrationality has spread to totally zeroing in on school shootings. You do know, right, that these are statistical anomalies in no way correlated to overall crime rates, or even gun offending numbers, right? As a matter of fact, economists and sociologist would say that corrected for all factors they should be more prevalent (albeit still exceedingly rare) in states with more guns in homes, since many of the offenders are juveniles who obtain their weapons from the home. Still 100% irrelevant to the SC State shooting.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 3:24 pm

Well, if you think it is irrational to post stats on school shootings on a thread about school shootings I am sort of at a loss for words. You have a nice day at the beach.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 2:09 pm

Sorry LGC – there were 30 school shootings in 2013 – I listed the non-Blue state ones – so out of 30 – mostly blue or mostly red?

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Mike at the Beach January 25, 2014 at 2:36 pm

Wow, you really have quite the grip on your sociology and criminology. Great catch, that most serial and mass killers are white. This case appears to be, while sad and tragic, perfectly in keeping with black-on-black criminology statistics. Though the FBI doesn’t specifically define mass shooting, it does define mass murder, calling it a single incident in which a perpetrator kills four or more people, not including himself or herself. You’re right, most of those actors are, in fact, white. Fortunately, though, “only” about 50-125 victims of these attacks die every year nationwide. Here’s the context you were lacking- that number is a subset of the 12-15,000 murders in the US each year. Your point about white folks is not only misplaced here, but more than slightly off. White folks just plain don’t shoot as many people, and certainly not black folks; sorry!

Strange though, that you didn’t mention these stats (straight from the UCR and BJS numbers, by the way) since you were comparing white and black crime rates:

Blacks are seven times more likely than people of other races to commit murder, and eight times more likely to commit robbery.

When blacks commit crimes of violence, they are nearly three times more likely than non-blacks to use a gun, and more than twice as likely to use a knife. Hispanics commit violent crimes at roughly three times the white rate, and Asians commit violent crimes at about one quarter the white rate.

The single best indicator of violent crime levels in an area is the percentage of the population that is black and Hispanic.

Of the nearly 770,000 violent interracial crimes committed every year involving blacks and whites, blacks commit 85 percent and whites commit 15 percent. Blacks commit more violent crime against whites than against blacks; 45 percent of their victims are white, 43 percent are black, and 10 percent are Hispanic. When whites commit violent crime, only three percent of their victims are black.

Blacks are an estimated 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against a white than vice versa, and 136 times more likely to commit robbery. Blacks are 2.25 times more likely to commit officially-designated hate crime against whites than vice versa.

Only 10 percent of youth gang members are white.Hispanics are
19 times more likely than whites to be members of youth gangs. Blacks are 15 times more likely, and Asians are nine times more likely.

Accordingly, blacks are seven times more likely to be in prison than whites. Hispanics are three times more likely.

So, when Squishy sarcastically inferred that he really wasn’t betting on a white Amish dude as our perp here, he was making a pretty solid deductive guess, based upon standard threat assessment and criminological data. Who knew?

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SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 2:51 pm

Squishy’s “sarcastic inference” had nothing to do with “standard threat assessment and criminology data” – read the rest of Squishy’s comments on this thread and any other thread on this site that has anything to do with non-white people. Who knew? I know exactly where Squishy’s comment(s) on black people come from – they come from ignorance and bigotry. If all of your stats make you feel better about Squishy’s comments then you certainly have that right.

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DB Cooper January 25, 2014 at 3:00 pm

Yes or no…. stating facts and actual statistics is ignorance and bigotry? Is that your contention? If so, can I conclude that you also believe that burying your head is tolerance, love, and peace?

Mike at the Beach January 25, 2014 at 3:47 pm

Dude, stop. She’s not going to answer you.

Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 4:04 pm

Liberals who know they’re wrong rarely do.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 4:05 pm

Dude, you need to get over yourself. Big time.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 4:05 pm

I posted facts above – apparently only “Mike’s Fact’s” are the ones you want to look at.

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 6:48 pm

I posted facts above

Oy Vey!! Great Spirit dammitalltohell!

What an idiot, TBG is!

Actually scrolled back to look for said “facts”.

*Hangs head in shame… takes a schlug of Manishewitz fire water…chases with a PBR*

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 7:05 pm

“What an idiot, TBG is!”
No argument here.
I’m just glad you’re back to your third-person-referring self so everyone will be impressed with how smart you are.

Mike at the Beach January 25, 2014 at 3:08 pm

Yeah, I know Squishy’s probably not a social scientist. I will refrain from further sarcasm since you obviously can’t see my sarcasm font…

At any rate, I wasn’t actually defending Squishy (that’s up to him). I was making the point that statistically, criminologically, sociologically, economically…pick your discipline…that he was (accidentally or otherwise) correct in his guess and your point was off-base. Those numbers aren’t “my stats,” they are “the stats” and don’t make feel anything about anybody. If treated correctly, facts aren’t emotional things, they’re just reality things. I just study them, and make a good portion of my living by making sound predictions from them. I don’t get all frothy about them.

My point stands, though, in regard to your (I believe) tasteless and irrelevant reference to murdered school kids. For every school kid, mall shopper, or coworker killed by a white dude rampage killer, thousands upon thousands of others are murdered otherwise. As Squishy understood (!) if you see on the news that a young black man has been murdered, see if you can get someone to bet you that the perp was white and put everything you can scratch together on the black perp bet. You’ll make money.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 3:21 pm

I believe we were talking about a school shooting here – am I wrong? Race was brought into the equation. And I am not allowed to post about any other school shooting in response to Squishy’s? All school shootings are made by a ‘Negro”? I am not allowed to bring up another school shooting that was made by a white person? Why not? I made a just as outrageous and just as sarcastic post as Squishy’s yet you deem mine irrelevant and tasteless. Perhaps you are as blind to others sarcasm font as they are to yours. Do you find any of Squishy’s subsequent posts irrelevant or tasteless? Thanks for providing cover for Squishy though – I’m not sure I’d want to keep company with Squishy, Grand Tango, Frank, etc.

Mike at the Beach January 25, 2014 at 3:54 pm

Although this one is my fault, yes, you are kinda wrong (but not really). The whole “school shooting” thing here is a canard. This was not, at least as we classify them in the studies, what we would call a “school shooting.” That term generally refers to a rampage killing of multiple victims, and usually in the actual learning environment. You are technically, of course, correct in that there was a shooting within the campus confines of a school. We don’t generally classify every shooting by locale; street shootings, home shootings, outdoor shootings, nightclub shootings, etc. I should have picked up on the fact that you were on that angle (common for laypersons, by the way). Also, don’t misunderstand me, Squishy’s post was in poor taste as well. I just don’t use his communications as a barometer for my own, although you are free to do so. Again I would say to you that the facts I posted neither “cover” or expose anyone- they are just facts. Facts are pesky things sometimes.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 4:11 pm

Mike, Mike, Mike – I know I am not as smart as you – I mean who could be, right? You are so lost in yourself and in your stats and facts and then trying to make gobbledygook out of them that it is ridiculous. I have common sense, Mike. I have read Squishy’s racist posts over and over and over on this forum. When I see another what I consider to be racist post then I know what it is Mike. I don’t need you to tell me what is relevant and what is rational – those are simply your opinions – and not very well thought-out ones if you ask me. You insinuate in your posts that you are something beyond a “layperson” – well, good, Mike. People make all kinds of claims on this forum. You have your opinion and I have my opinion. I choose what is relevant to me and you choose what is relevant to you.

Mike at the Beach January 26, 2014 at 1:51 pm

Trust me, I totally get that you aren’t as smart as I am, and I apologize for being so lost in “my” stats (which “belong” to the feds and are just facts, actually). I am often accused of being grounded in reality; I’m okay with that. You’re obviously not going to get what I’m trying in good faith to explain to you (or you can’t hear me over the noise of you slurping Kool-Aid). Your initial comment to which I responded was simply wrong and shitty. This wasn’t a “school shooting,” any more than it was an assassination, hate crime, or other incorrect label. It was a felonious assault between acquaintances that ended in a murder. We’ll have to agree to disagree, but I’m out in regard to wasting any more of my time trying to explain it to you. I am sure you will pipe in with another irrelevant rejoinder, and I’m okay with that too. Knock yourself out. Namaste.

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 7:45 pm

Oh for crying out loud – I have never come across so many folks so full of themselves as on this site. Whatever, Mike.

Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 4:03 pm

Another sure bet, SCBlues has a liberal arts degree.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 4:13 pm

Another sure bet – Squishy is working on his GED.

Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 6:41 pm

BS in Chemical Engineering, you? Let me guess social work, ACORN or Peace Corp.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 6:57 pm

LOL – I had you pegged for a Masters in BS.

BatteryBiff January 25, 2014 at 7:56 pm

Ha, regardless of his vocation – whether an HVAC repairman, auto mechanic, backhoe operator, physician, civil engineer, or chemical engineer – he’s clearly more valued to our society than the faux importance reflected in your likely sociologist, psychologist, art history, community advocacy, legal, etc., etc., background. Seriously, you and your liberal cohorts could go and jump in the river and tomorrow would be just fine.

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 12:10 pm

LOL – I don’t share personal info on the internet – especially this site because of all the Creepy Crawlers – but I wish I could just so you’d see how are far, far off you are. Your belief in those tired stereotypes show just how ignorant you are, dear.

Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 8:47 pm

Make up your mind, GED or Masters Degree.

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 6:30 pm

*coughs*

Rule #3, Mike….Rule # 3….

Mike at the Beach January 26, 2014 at 1:52 pm

I think I know, but refresh my memory…

Is Rule #3 the old Ben Franklin thing, “You cant reason a person out of a position they didn’t reason themselves into?” or the more modernized “Don’t stick your dick in crazy?”

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2014 at 2:55 pm

TBG’s Rule #3 :
Never argue wirh an idiot.
1) People may be unable to tell the difference.
2) They just drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.

Mike at the Beach January 26, 2014 at 3:02 pm

Thanks. Good advice indeed, and I know better. Sometimes these little debates are a little like having sex with a woman you *know* you shouldn’t (either due to her general lack of attractiveness, snakes in her head, marriage to your brother, all of the above, etc.) but you do anyway. You know you’re going to regret it later, but the urge overpowers your will…

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2014 at 4:24 pm

… all of the above,

*chuckles*

Mike at the Beach January 26, 2014 at 9:44 pm

True story, by the way. Wasn’t me (thank God), but I watched a buddy of mine wander down that rabbit hole. I’ll let you guess if that worked out well for him or not.

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 8:02 pm

Oh yes – you and TBG are quite the authorities on EVERYTHING on here – you both are much more impressed with yourselves than anyone else could possibly be.

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm

Why don’t you and TBG go stand in a circle and do what you and TBG do best?

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 9:45 pm

Oh – anyone that would let you stick their dick in them would certainly need to be crazy – no doubt about that.

SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 7:12 pm

So when a SCHOOL SHOOTING happens in the United States I should think the shooter is a:
A) Black Male
B) Black Female
C) White Male
D) White Female
If I picked Black Male for the shooter at a SCHOOL SHOOTING, what are the odds that I would be correct?

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TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 7:30 pm

Seung-Hui Cho politely points out that you should drop either black or white females from your choices and replace with “East Asian Male.” Thanks.

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 12:18 pm

You cannot answer the question posed can you? You simply cannot and will not do it – as you know I am correct. Now run along up-voting anyone who posts anything against me and down-voting me and anyone who posts in support of me – I love the Clown Show on this site with Bozo at the helm!

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2014 at 12:26 pm

You cannot answer the question posed can you?

Please accept TBG’s apology. This thread has gotten somewhat hard to follow and TBG missed your question. What was it, again?

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2014 at 10:48 pm

BRB. Going to get a Snickers®. Looks like TBG is not going anywhere soon.

Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 9:18 pm

What about if you hear of any of the nearly daily shootings in Columbia?

Mike at the Beach January 26, 2014 at 2:05 pm

I’ll bite – white male! Of course, blacks, females, Asians, etc. have committed these rare offenses as well. Unfortunately for your whole deflective line of responses, though, that’s not what we’re discussing here. Now, if you asked about acquaintance assaults (especially attendant to black male victims), which IS what we’re discussing here, the answer is just as reliable – black male. See? This is not a complex issue, you’re just trying your damndest to make it so.

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 7:47 pm

Whatever, Mike.

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2014 at 8:03 pm

SCBlues:
“Whatever, Mike.”

PRO TIP

Translation:
1) SCBlues will not respond to any more logical, fact based arguments from Mike at the Beach.
2) Mike at the Beach will not be getting *any* from SCBlues in the foreseeable future.

Mike at the Beach January 26, 2014 at 10:03 pm

Yeah, when you reach the “Whatever!” stage of a debate (whether political or asking for sex), you’re pretty much done. As chance would have it, my Fall/Winter issue of the AFIO journal came yesterday so I was perusing it today. Check out this quote from p. 136: “Never underestimate the difficulty of changing false beliefs with facts.” (Henry Rosovsky, Harvard economist). Fate, baby!

GrandTango January 25, 2014 at 2:54 pm

Yeah: And OJ used a slicer, anti-gun, like liberals are…..and when you’re black, you get away w/ it…but is that only if it’s white people you kill???… A racist like you should know….

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euwe max January 25, 2014 at 3:05 pm

That’s unfair – you didn’t even *mention* they’d rather shoot Arabs, preferably 14 year old girls they just raped.

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GrandTango January 25, 2014 at 3:09 pm

Yeah: And OJ used a slicer, anti-gun, like liberals are…..and when you’re black, you get away w/ it…but is that only if it’s white people you kill???… A racist like you should know….

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TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 7:18 pm

just for fun…

You tell Tonto how many School shootings involving a white perp and first graders have occurred in the past (You choose the time-frame) days/months/years. Also add up the number of victims.You can use the whole planet as your sample size.

For the same time period, Tonto will tabulate 15-25 year old black guys killing other 15-25 year old black guys. TBG will use only North America, the USA, South Carolina, Orangeburg County, *sighs* the city limits of Orangeburg.

*Anxiously awaits response*

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SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 12:03 pm

LOL In other words, you know I am correct so you are going to set up smoke screens and change the parameters.
Just for fun, answer my original post. Oh – that’s right – if you do, it proves I am correct so that won’t be happening any time soon.
*Anxiously waits to see what new BS you come up with next*

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TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2014 at 12:42 pm

Just for fun, answer my original post.

Your original post [Well you knew it was not going to be a white person – they don’t shoot just one and they prefer to shoot first graders.] was an assertion, not a question. Nevertheless, TBG believes Mike at the Beach “answered” it adequately.

Also, TBG’s “smokescreen” lets YOU set the parameters. Although not stated, TBG is down with you increasing his sample size (or decreasing yours, or any combination of…should you choose).

*Anxious because it’s Sunday and there is no NFL or NASCAR on TV*

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 7:59 pm

More of your BS and gobbledygook . . . since you have no macho/manly things to entertain yourself with perhaps you and MIke and can stand in a circle and figure something out. Have fun.

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2014 at 8:10 pm

…perhaps you and MIke and can stand in a circle…

Geometry’s not one of your strong suits either, huh?

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 9:24 pm

Oh – I have no doubt that a couple of geniuses like you and Mike will figure something out. If all else fails, invite your buddy Big T – he fits in nicely with you two.

Mike at the Beach January 26, 2014 at 10:25 pm

Two people a circle makes, no? Oh…no.

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 11:36 pm

Bring your blow-up dolls – I ‘m sure each of you have two or three

Mike at the Beach January 26, 2014 at 11:59 pm

I am sure you haven’t noticed, but your last eleventy or so comments have been even more vitriolic, personal, and off-point than even your earlier (simply inane) posts, and moreover, most of them aren’t even a response to something one of us has said, because we had, for the most part, started ignoring you. Methinks we’re up in your head rent-free!

King-tut January 25, 2014 at 2:16 pm

Thats an ignorant statemet. There are bad peole everywhere like there are good people everywhere. Dont judge people by their home or school they attend.

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Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 2:21 pm

Yeah whatever… let’s wait to make final decisions until the details come out. Let me guess, drug deal gone wrong or shootee was fucking shooter’s baby mama.

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TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2014 at 11:28 am

Thats an ignorant statemet.

Not really, Captain Spelling.

Squishy didn’t really put his money on an Amish gentleman.

He was being sarcastic.

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SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 12:05 pm

Of course it is an ignorant statement – you just have to not be ignorant to know that though.

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King-tut January 26, 2014 at 7:35 pm

Thank you for highlighting my spelling errors, Captain Dick.

I know how to spell. The key pad on this phone sucks.

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shifty henry January 25, 2014 at 11:36 am

Where are the “historically white” colleges”? Shifty is calling bias and discrimination on this phraseology.

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The Colonel January 25, 2014 at 11:59 am

Almost any college established prior to 1865 or so would have been “historically white”. 1964 brought integration to the college campus so HBCUs are those schools founded between the end of the (un)Civil War and ’64 specifically to serve black students are considered HBCU. There were 3-4 that predate the (un)Civil War. I think there are 105+- HBCUs in the US.

In my opinion, the HBCUs have for the most part outlived their usefulness and in some aspects are actually holding students back rather than pushing them forward. The artificially homogenous environment sets them up for a rude awakening when they enter the real world. I taught at Benedict for a while.

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Barbarossa January 25, 2014 at 2:06 pm

Without a doubt, it would be like living in hell to be a white student in one of said HBCU’s. I mean, personally, I’d forego college if that was my only choice…. seriously, Benedict’s latest billboad states… “Enter With Pride, Exit With Power.”. Why not just state… Enter as an incompetant student, Exit as an incompetant future employee with a chip on their shoulder, and, as a card carrying member of the NAACP and the Black Panthers. Geez!

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The Colonel January 25, 2014 at 2:17 pm

Wait, back up the bus for a second. Benedict has some very good programs as does SCSU. It’s the artificial environment and attitude that is the problem in my opinion. Are there substandard programs, absolutely but those two schools at least you can get a quality education. Lake Marion High School has a higher standard of learning that Allen or Morris but they give some students who wouldn’t other wise have a chance a place to start. I think Claflin’s 6 year grad rate is about 44%.

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Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 2:29 pm

“Benedict has some very good programs as does SCSU.”

Like what? I don’t know anyone who has gone to etiher school and received a decent job nor do I know anyone who has ever hired someone from either school.

6 year grad rate? Who the fuck takes six years to complete a 4 year degree?

These schools are nothing more than government provided stop over places for people who will graduate to welfare programs.

DB Cooper January 25, 2014 at 2:45 pm

.. i have to agree with Squishy. That sweet looking girl, Martha Childress, would likely be walking today if Five Points was separated by way more than roughly a mile or so of Harden Street. In essence, that filthly welfare and affirmative action breeding ground – masquerading as a college – just fits hand-in-glove with the gang bangers of the area.

euwe max January 25, 2014 at 3:04 pm

I’ll disagree with that when you show me a white affirmative action gang banger in a masquerading college.

The Colonel January 25, 2014 at 2:47 pm

I’ll start at the bottom and work up.

National time to grad rates are now above 5.5 years and climbing very few kids finish in 8 semesters any more. http://completionarch.collegeboard.org/completion/time-to-degree/average-time-to-certificate-an-associate-degree-or-bachelors-degree-us

Programs at SCSU that might surprise you are their Nuclear Engineering program (partnered with U-Wisc) and their nursing program has turned around

Benedict has an excellent physics department and a good computer science department.

Are either schools the equal of USC or Clemson, no absolutely not. Would I send a kid to school there – no.

Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 4:10 pm

I’ve never even heard of a Nuclear Engineer from SCSU and have neighbors who work for SCANA in that area. I’ll have to ask how many SCSU graduates work with them.

Yeah we’ve all heard about SCSU’s nursing program. Going from a diploma mill to actually getting a few board certified nurses is a giant leap. Another few years and they may be up there with other nursing schools in the area.

Never known a single person hired that had a physics or computer science degree from Benedict. Isn’t this the school where you get a C grade just for showing up to class?

The Colonel January 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm

One of the kids I brought with me just got his Nuke degree from SCSU and works for Westinghouse.

Benedict has a dual grading scheme called SE2 for 1st and second year students – they get an effort grade in addition to a “score” grade. SE2 is one of the reasons that “I used to teach there”.

Look, Benedict isn’t the Ivy League, I’m not trying to say it is. we can play anecdotes all night – I give, you win. Get a bulldozer and raze the place, I don’t think HBCUs are a good idea anyway as I said in my very first post.

Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 6:45 pm

Can’t you get the same job with the two year degree from Midland’s Tech?

Razing Benedict would be a good start.

euwe max January 25, 2014 at 3:02 pm

6 year grad rate? Who the fuck takes six years to complete a 4 year degree?

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Tea Partier.

Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 4:06 pm

Apparently HBCU students as well.

Frank Pytel January 25, 2014 at 5:34 pm

In all fairness they probably don’t graduate to get on the dole (though in the current marketplace that is where most graduates of any school will end up.)

They likely graduate thinking they will get to dole ojt the dole.

Just sayin

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 6:55 pm

6 year grad rate? Who the fuck takes six years to complete a 4 year degree?

Easy now, amigo, your “liberal arts” comment was hurtful to TBG. Now you’re just pouring salt on the wound….

TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 8:07 pm

all three have white students on campus

Athletes.

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The Colonel January 26, 2014 at 6:28 am

Oddly, one of my white students at Benedict was a white kid and he was the long snapper on the football team. The rest were guys who needed a college degree for a career move.

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Squishy123 January 26, 2014 at 10:37 am

And their decision was to go to Benedict? Since when does digging ditches require a college degree?

Squishy123 January 26, 2014 at 10:35 am

I believe you mis-typed that statement.

Should be, “all have three white students on campus”

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TontoBubbaGoldstein January 26, 2014 at 11:24 am

Heh!

Take it up with the Colonel. TBG was quoting him.

BTW, did you click on the link?

SCBlues January 26, 2014 at 9:47 pm

They are all over the place – pick just about any college. Many of them were “exclusively white colleges” – that would warrant the bias and discrimination.

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shifty henry January 26, 2014 at 10:35 pm

I was being sarcastic. Nobody ever refers to Carolina or Clemson as a “historically white college/university.” I’ve never seen that term used anywhere. Why does a college that started its existence as a black school need to keep referring to it? Probably every HBCU has a representative number of white, asian, and other ethnic students.

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euwe max January 25, 2014 at 2:57 pm

Guns will get you through times of no drugs, better than drugs will get you through times of no guns.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l6NL5GZ3Mig

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SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 5:14 pm

Well, I’ve certainly been educated on this thread and want to share what I’ve leaned with others:
1. You are not allowed to discuss “school shootings” on a thread about a shooting at a school.
2. A shooting that happens at a school is technically NOT a “school shooting” – except to us laymen.
3. You are “irrational” and it is “irrelevant” to post any data about “school shootings” on a thread about a shooting at a school.
4. If someone brings up race about a shooter at a school shooting, you are not allowed to bring up the race of anyone else at any other school shooting – it is in poor taste and it is irrelevant.
I feel much smarter and hope you do also!

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Fits Aint No Republican January 25, 2014 at 6:34 pm

Well,you should also learn about all the non Republican Republicans we have here!

See when they saw your moniker ,that set em off right there.Not that they are Republicans or anything like that!

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SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 7:02 pm

I know. I’m thinking of switching to SCReds just to confuse them. How long did it take you to figure out that FITS is not a Republican and that there are no Republicans that post on this site? It was a brilliant deduction and I am in awe of you for it.

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Fits Aint No Republican January 26, 2014 at 1:20 pm

It was quite difficult actually.Required keen insight into the subtke hints dropped in the writings herein but through a healthy dose of deductive reasoning and the fortuitous meanderings of Lady Luck,I stumbled inadverdently into the truth!

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TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 8:40 pm

TBg’s probably a bit dense (Yes, SCBlues, TBG knows you agree…), but TBG (even to TBG the TBG stuff is getting tedious) first thought you were a LEO or a jazz musician/aficionado.

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Squishy123 January 25, 2014 at 6:46 pm

Are, are you crying???

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SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 7:00 pm

LOL – I’m laughing – mostly at you – but some of the others are pretty funny too!

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TontoBubbaGoldstein January 25, 2014 at 7:00 pm

C’mon FITS!!

Quit deleting SCBlues posts!!!!

FAIR is FAIR!!!!!!

Wait….

What?

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SCBlues January 25, 2014 at 7:21 pm

Oh dear . . . I’ve got to run do something important like buffing my nails – but don’t dare let that stop you from your flaming, Cuz.
Do carry on.

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Fits Aint No Republican January 25, 2014 at 6:30 pm

Damn I thought I had stumbled into a Republican “outreach” effort when I read most of these posts.

Then , I realized there Aint no Republicans here!Only “Independent Conservatives” who just vote straight Republican(with an obligatory ballot for some unknown libertarian to maintain their “Independent ” status!)

Its a great life!

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idcydm January 25, 2014 at 7:44 pm

Sad, all too sad.

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CorruptionInColumbia January 25, 2014 at 9:05 pm

I see various news outlets are reporting they had a fatal mall shooting (2 dead plus the POS) in Maryland. Again, that just cannot be. Maryland is a virtual Gun Free Zone, where obtaining a permit is expensive and difficult for the average citizen. The crud apparently entered a store in the mall and killed two employees and then himself with a shotgun.

How could he do that without an “assault rifle”????? Isn’t a shotgun what Joe Biden gave his stamp of approval to?

I am confused. I hope we get some factual reporting, soon.

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